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mircea_popescu: AndChat567216 the concern is that may cause trouble to
tor.
AndChat567216: It's perhaps discussed already... but why not a MPEX proxy as
TOR hidden service?
mod6: i have basically only accessed mpex over
tor since you moved it all over to that early last year
mjr_: i kinda thought that maybe you could host the website on
tor with no order functionality
mod6: so i'll probably just re-introduce those files if/when that happens so
tor may be utililzed
mod6: cause with that, it was still
tor capable
mircea_popescu: aethero there are bots trading here. there will be an onion up, but im not sure
tor can take the load.
mircea_popescu: knotwork the
tor proposition is a little more complicated
knotwork: I would've though the DDOS might just kind of clog entire
Tor or i2p system
knotwork: is it true at all that using
Tor .onion site or i2p site these DDOS attacks would not work?
kakobrekla: and if you change it to unknown its same shit if you keep it hidden via
tor or via decent
http proxies
mircea_popescu: someone taking down all
tor nodes is a coupla degrees of magnitude over that.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla mpex would be on
tor, proxies would be on normal web.
mircea_popescu: this is a small scale garden variety
tor implementation.
mircea_popescu: the judgement is that privacy-minded users are better server by proxy/vpn/
tor/etc
mjr_: obviously some may use
tor gesell: im trying to liberate subversive services from the
Tor only option
gesell: or at least,
Tor is optional then
gesell: the advantage of using The blockchain as apposed to a new one is that you can use blockchain.info for all sorts of purposes (finding WidgedA sellers, checking reputation) and its a little harder to kill blockchain.info which has plenty of legal use, than specialwidgetsellerblockchain.info. So you could basically do silkroad without
Tor jcpham: * i2pRelay (~i2prelay@gateway/
tor-sasl/i2prelay) has joined #bitcoin-market
pirateat40: though routing it through
TOR would've made for ultimate trolling
mircea_popescu: jcpham left that
tor dood a comment. real curious if he publishes it.
mircea_popescu: must be really hard to be anonymous when your name actually is
tor.
Ukto: so, apparently
tor has 'torchat' now?
mod6: it connects to mpex (currently just over inet,
tor ability is coming, probably in beta,
tor works with perl version) and grabs all the JSON and parses it.
PsychoticBoy: I can pay 2k on
tor to hunt you down but I wont
PsychoticBoy: hmmmnz should not be long till someone hires a hitman on
tor gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask aethero!~kvirc@gateway/
tor-sasl/aethero . User aethero, rated since Wed May 2 16:24:52 2012. Cumulative rating 410, from 192 total ratings. Received ratings: 190 positive, 2 negative. Sent ratings: 187 positive, 16 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=aethero BTC-Mining: Which would be worthless, considering most scammers in Bitcoin where always on
TOR and used gpg identity not officially tied to anyone.
BTC-Mining: And if that person was always dealing from
TOR, never tied the bitcoins to a transaction toward one of his bank account and denies owning the address, you can't provide a proof.
Luceo: So, whos setting up a
tor or p2p exchange?
B0g4r7: or, as ppl have been saying a lot, on
tor.
mircea_popescu: so a combo of
tor + whatever public libraries you have around should pretty much make you as anon as practically useful.
mircea_popescu: pigeons but still, you could at least in theory use
tor matthewh3: even if GLBSE was forced to shut down there are multiple copies of the database and it wouldn't take long until it surfaced on I2p or
Tor networks in full with all history, accounts and coin.
pigeons: a couple truledger servers on
tor are getting popular
knotwork: once there is some easy way to use it through
Tor there are a few groups who want to have OT servers as
Tor hidden services
smickles: knotwork: so you're saying just the ui and
tor interface need work?
knotwork: It could do with easier way to use
Tor though, like actual proxy-port support
mircea_popescu: In case the domain is confiscated or otherwise lost MPEx will move to a different domain, in a different jurisdiction. Should the same happen again, MPEx would move to what will at the time be a solid alternative for a free Internet, be it the
TOR network, namecoin or some equivalent DNS or any comparable solution. No government will ever be able to stop the Internet, in general. We're prepared to show this in the particular.
Luceo: All the feds are accomplishing is driving legitimate businesses underground, into
tor, into darknet, onto IRC
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: they execute people over there for using
tor da2ce773: the client could always talk via
tor or localhost, or whaterever.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Luceo!~Luc3o@gateway/
tor-sasl/luceo . User Luceo, rated since Tue Jun 12 11:09:09 2012. Cumulative rating 24, from 50 total ratings. Received ratings: 44 positive, 6 negative. Sent ratings: 52 positive, 5 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Luceo gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Luceo!~Luc3o@gateway/
tor-sasl/luceo . User Luceo, rated since Tue Jun 12 11:09:09 2012. Cumulative rating 60, from 45 total ratings. Received ratings: 43 positive, 2 negative. Sent ratings: 49 positive, 5 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Luceo Diablo-D3: and what happens when I use
tor and segregate my bitcoinds to different parts of the network?
jcpham: damn i'll have to start using
tor after all
Ignatius-otc: hey Diablo-D3, will your vps and dedi offerings allow IRC and
tor exit nodes?
BTCHero: ic3d: but you can say the money came from selling widgets to
tor users
nefario: they get a list of all public
tor bridges
Diablo-D3: and then disconnect, and the
tor node would still flush the buffer
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: so, what happened is, I could max out the tcp send buffer on the
tor end point
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, I used an unpatched bug to use
tor nodes to repeat an attack
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: the fun part is when I used
tor to take down the network :D
Diablo-D3: rg: man, did nenolod ever tell you what I did with a combination of perl and
tor?
Diablo-D3: I once used a throwaway account over
tor to edit GWB's article to say hes actually a reptile in human guise
Chaaaang-Noi: but really unless you realy really know what you are doing it only takes about 2 or 3 hours to find someone with an ien internet connection, even on
tor Ignatius-otc: btc is also an unregulated market, afaik...but I personally wouldnt take on the risk of being a bitcoinica,unelss I based in
tor maybe:P