mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

mircea_popescu: Bowjob well that'd be it.

mircea_popescu: jurov i think it was a slight loss in january

mircea_popescu: but overall should come roughly 0.05 btc per bet as a net loss

mircea_popescu: looking

mircea_popescu: last month it made 20k btcs rght ?

mircea_popescu: you know what you're right.

mircea_popescu: fixed.

mircea_popescu: actually, it is ONLY the illegal ventures that succeed in the long run

mircea_popescu: any government failed

mircea_popescu: prostitution is still here, drugs are still here, murder is still here.

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

mircea_popescu: http://blogs.friendlybeings.com/fun/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/deal-with-it-580x385.jpg

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: huh ?

mircea_popescu: i;d have bought a million if i were around

mircea_popescu: sadly, some fuckwit had to write about assasination markets.

mircea_popescu: that added 6 months to the cooldown for btc in my case.

mircea_popescu: july 2011

mircea_popescu: bought 60 at 15ish

mircea_popescu: would have bought 1mn at 1/10 of a cent just as well.

mircea_popescu: many are, i'm relatively new.

mircea_popescu: actually i'd say most names you've heard of / have a reputation other than scammer were here before me.

mircea_popescu: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/1229255/d0aea3947509bba9eb9e953d84115979ee1bb8044ab16d15eda4c2aad9b90a34

mircea_popescu: actually there it is.

mircea_popescu: ya well, i don't try to time it. i do capital allocation.

mircea_popescu: dust-otc you using opera ?!

mircea_popescu: wait. waitwait. is this the same fuckwit with the swedish credit cooperative etc ?

mircea_popescu: anyway. this bitcoininv kid is a pretty good source of funny.

mircea_popescu: "I admire the ambition and for this stage of his career he's obviously cleared the bar, but it's also good for him to learn that in the real world security isn't graded on a curve, and people with more time and experience than him have failed to secure Rails apps."

mircea_popescu: i like this quote.

mircea_popescu: people with more experience being = to absolutely anyone stupid enough to try.

mircea_popescu: dub kinda my point now isnt it.

mircea_popescu: omg hax

mircea_popescu: ahaha isn't this shot great ? http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136167510323.jpg

mircea_popescu: pretty cool

mircea_popescu: nobody wants coins anymore.

mircea_popescu: i haven't accepted coins since at least 1999

mircea_popescu: i got tired of having to buy new pants cause my pockets were broken

mircea_popescu: heh

mircea_popescu: the largest coin here is half a leu which is a 6th of a dollar.

mircea_popescu: who the fuck wants a 6th of a dollar ?

mircea_popescu: gimme a hundred ty

mircea_popescu: maybe the girl likes you

mircea_popescu: it's never too late for a girl to like you lol

mircea_popescu: girls are weird like that

mircea_popescu: they like guys the wrong ways all teh time

mircea_popescu: or so i read somewhere.

mircea_popescu: maybe she ends up with a new girlfriend.

mircea_popescu: they end up exchanging stories about you

mircea_popescu: advice, shit like that.

mircea_popescu: ;;tickler

mircea_popescu: heh

mircea_popescu: how's xdiff related to mpbor ?

mircea_popescu: a ok

mircea_popescu: misread that

mircea_popescu: fydel it comes from dooglus, if you click the link above it you'll see

mircea_popescu: Ukto it's not site data, someone wrote a chain traverser

mircea_popescu: they just parse all the sdice addresses periodically.

mircea_popescu: i think bugpowder has a copy too, i don't recall where it is on github

mircea_popescu: something like that.

mircea_popescu: no, sdice made like 60-70k, mpoe made like 20k or so, there's a reason these are the top bitcoin corps.

mircea_popescu: nobody else comes even remotely close.

mircea_popescu: fydel not unless you write it yourself.

mircea_popescu: i don't think it would be too hard, just get the parser and run it

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller how do you know ?

mircea_popescu: fydel well then it may have to wait a little.

mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 they'd be around there, possibly, but haven't had a report out in like 18 months i think

mircea_popescu: they did monthly reporting too for a few months but then gave up

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller bs.

mircea_popescu: you're working on maybe 2011 data. or 2010.

mircea_popescu: Ukto you seen the sort of expenditure they do ?

mircea_popescu: Ukto nono, not sr, mtgox

mircea_popescu: yeah. 20-25 btc iirc.

mircea_popescu: im too lazy to dig up the data, but most of 2012 they ran in the red.

mircea_popescu: link ?

mircea_popescu: dude.

mircea_popescu: some clueless noob calling his farting "a study" is not going to wash in this conversation.

mircea_popescu: no.

mircea_popescu: absent a statement from the owner itself, i want to see the estimate of someone i know and respect.

mircea_popescu: otherwise, we might as well steal the numbers off of RIAA/MPAA's piracy estimates

mircea_popescu: or for that matter, off of Bush's wmd's estimates.

mircea_popescu: Ukto surely.

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's neither here nor there.

mircea_popescu: you wish to propose something exists, you'll have to do a lot better than that.

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller dooglus can, if he feels like it.

mircea_popescu: for that matter the owner himself can come out and make monthly statements like everyone else.

mircea_popescu: not such a big deal.

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller but you do bring an interesting point. in spite of 1mn words being written a week into this channel, there's an incredible dearth of people doing useful stuff, such as, keeping a blog with good quality research.

mircea_popescu: consequently, the headcount of "known and respected" is dismal.

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's not how reality works i'm affraid.

mircea_popescu: Namworld i think not

mircea_popescu: agreement doth not reality make.

mircea_popescu: and absent actual experiments (which did NOT occur) the agreement is by definition agreement of idiots.

mircea_popescu: why/into what/why/etc

mircea_popescu: Namworld o interesting!

mircea_popescu: hey listen, why don't you make a single value ?

mircea_popescu: something like this :

mircea_popescu: go into the vwap json, calculate the implicit breakeven of each option line

mircea_popescu: then average this weighted by the volume of that line

mircea_popescu: and publish the final result.

mircea_popescu: i imagine you would get a bunch of people going there daily just to check that

mircea_popescu: Namworld i give you an example.

mircea_popescu: "O.BTCUSD.C310T": {"1d": {"avg": "","min": "","max": "","vsh": "","vsa": "","cnt": ""}, "7d": {"avg": "28103279","min": "28103279","max": "28103279","vsh": "10","vsa": "281032790","cnt": "1"}, "30d": {"avg": "28103279","min": "28103279","max": "28103279","vsh": "10","vsa": "281032790","cnt": "1"}}

mircea_popescu: "O.BTCUSD.C220T": {"1d": {"avg": "","min": "","max": "","vsh": "","vsa": "","cnt": ""}, "7d": {"avg": "20577298","min": "20577298","max": "20577298","vsh": "3","vsa": "61731894","cnt": "1"}, "30d": {"avg": "19660880","min": "18744462","max": "20577298","vsh": "6","vsa": "117965280","cnt": "2"}}

mircea_popescu: now, working on the 7d averages

mircea_popescu: in the case of 310 breakeven is x, in the case of 220 breakeven is y

mircea_popescu: final value = (x * 281032790 + y * 61731894) / (281032790 +61731894)

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no, inasmuch as it's the statjson of that account.

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's in the faq dood. http://mpex.co/faq.html#11

mircea_popescu: Namworld a sort of "btc value implied by option contracts"

mircea_popescu: allthetime:D

mircea_popescu: this has been there for > 6 months

mircea_popescu: yes.

mircea_popescu: well, don't mix t and n

mircea_popescu: but mix p and c

mircea_popescu: why not ?!

mircea_popescu: no Namworld you mix all.

mircea_popescu: you just take the entire vwap list and calc the average for everything there.

mircea_popescu: yup

mircea_popescu: pick something, like t 7d and that's it.

mircea_popescu: out comes a number.

mircea_popescu: which whiole not precise, will be a MUCH better guess than any other guess someone makes.

mircea_popescu: you can also publish the result of the (281032790 +61731894) sum

mircea_popescu: so people know how much btc that guess has behind it

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller for next week's btc price i think

mircea_popescu: a thanks ThickAsThieves

mircea_popescu: i was etotheipi!

mircea_popescu: jesys hard name to remember

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla cool stuff!

mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpowder <kakobrekla> http://shrani.si/f/d/A8/2WDF9SMB/sierra-mpex.png

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla is "that's what she said" in turkmenistani

mircea_popescu: not to be confused with kako braka

mircea_popescu: which is different somehow

mircea_popescu: Namworld forget weighted.

mircea_popescu: if call is struck at 31 and price paid was 0.15

mircea_popescu: then you have (x - 31 / x) = .15

mircea_popescu: get the x, the WEIGH THAT

mircea_popescu: i mean (x - 31) / x = .15 obviously

mircea_popescu: ...

mircea_popescu: 1 - 31/x = .15

mircea_popescu: .85 = 31/x

mircea_popescu: x = 31/.85

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-free-cash-machine/

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller eh ?

mircea_popescu: it isn't.

mircea_popescu: it's not to consumers.

mircea_popescu: the average atm withdrawal is like 50 bux

mircea_popescu: i bet you the average here would be north of 500

mircea_popescu: keep all your wealth in btc, pay bills or w/e in cash

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you don't get 2 bn worth of in your face plebs neener without spending 2bn to implement it.

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller (you don't get) (2 bn worth of ((in your face plebs) neener)) (without spending 2bn (to implement it)).

mircea_popescu: :D

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla dude that sierra chart...

mircea_popescu: it looks like a stock!

mircea_popescu: for srsly!

mircea_popescu: mjr_ end of options month. last friday

mircea_popescu: mjr_ they're out already

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/mpex-paid-accounts

mircea_popescu: BitHub yah. also, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ycgm8/freeforall_pentesting_on_mpex/

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller what would an api do you can't do as it is tho ?

mircea_popescu: i don't think "ad agencies" have a clue about anything.

mircea_popescu: hey, knuth pays 2 dollars.

mircea_popescu: and also http://trilema.com/2013/wikipedia-the-special-olympics-for-the-mentally-retarded/

mircea_popescu: it is paid for.

mircea_popescu: Ukto if you weren't so stubborn you wouldn't have to go "another 100k sold" manually you know.

mircea_popescu: k lol

mircea_popescu: hm ?

mircea_popescu: i still don't see your trades in here.

mircea_popescu: jus' sayin'.

mircea_popescu: lol wow.

mircea_popescu: ya srsly, bet two quarters, take home 35k

mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUx7kWrpQD

mircea_popescu: a bitcoin to whoever tells me what's going on in that vid.

mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUx7kWrpQDs

mircea_popescu: missed an s

mircea_popescu: fu. you're banned from this contest nao!

mircea_popescu: totally!

mircea_popescu: i think dub gets it.

mircea_popescu: kid allegedly triedf to steal a bike, got scared straight (allegedly)

mircea_popescu: got an addy ?

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves because im not speaking french. if i were you'd wonder why am i from paris.

mircea_popescu: but if i do speak english, why'd you expect me to speak it different from how it's spoken ?

mircea_popescu: that also.

mircea_popescu: craccn ?!

mircea_popescu: all languages are fucked up

mircea_popescu: what do you mean what do i think ?

mircea_popescu: lol that worked.

mircea_popescu: i thought that's what the death and taxes guy did

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller iirc there were two sister sites or no ?

mircea_popescu: oh is it ?

mircea_popescu: yes dood. i got all the hookups in romania. locked in my basement.

mircea_popescu: with my beers in romania and any and all bears.

mircea_popescu: :D

mircea_popescu: jurov namworld was sorta starting to do something about it earlier

mircea_popescu: course he ran into algebraic trouble :D

mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136173632847.gif isn't that a nice house.

mircea_popescu: error4733 http://www.mhbay.com/

mircea_popescu: why ?

mircea_popescu: jurov http://pastebin.com/NbLimjFj

mircea_popescu: that's the convo

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: totally.

mircea_popescu: hey, anyone know when glbse actually started ?

mircea_popescu: mjr__ ty! sometimes the needed improvements are hidden in plain sight

mircea_popescu: so wait!

mircea_popescu: born april 2011, dead august 2012 ?

mircea_popescu: like a year and a half total ?

mircea_popescu: mmmkay.

mircea_popescu: can't believe they paid 20 btc for someone to come up with "glbse" as a good name

mircea_popescu: ty jurov

mircea_popescu: jurov no ?

mircea_popescu: dub that'd be almost as cool as bitocins

mircea_popescu: a, that was always the case.

mircea_popescu: you see addresses and sums up to the final

mircea_popescu: jurov a yes, i used to reprint old ones, but once people got the ability to change their interest rates it became impractical.

mircea_popescu: you're right tho, it wasn't "always" the case.

mircea_popescu: FabianB i think it's those transformed busses/trucks

mircea_popescu: o i c

mircea_popescu: do him!

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: lmao