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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13340 @ 0.00039121 = 5.2187 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 3 @ 0.5005 = 1.5015 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14183 @ 0.00039346 = 5.5804 BTC [+]
smickles: < mircea_popescu> twitter just cut out a number of transactions <<< so what's your opinion of app.net?
JWU42: DMC around .04
JWU42: where is Diablo
JWU42: that is really bad
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 6 @ 0.5 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 9 @ 0.5 = 4.5 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: He knows...
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.7601 = 2.2803 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.76 = 2.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10288 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 3 @ 0.8001 = 2.4003 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 27 @ 0.8 = 21.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 11 @ 1 = 11 BTC [+]
JWU42: BTC-Mining: has he stopped his world mining domination rants yet?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: I thought he always wanted to create a datacenter, mostly
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.6796 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 1.001881 = 5.0094 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 57 @ 0.10288 = 5.8642 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 111 @ 0.00094798 = 0.1052 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: JWU42: read DMC post in the forum. It's a bit confusing
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 16740 @ 0.00095427 = 15.9745 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2649 @ 0.00095759 = 2.5367 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.7299 = 2.9196 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 18 @ 0.10001 = 1.8002 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1712 @ 0.0009338 = 1.5987 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3088 @ 0.00092816 = 2.8662 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130N] 1 @ 0.22323722 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120N] 1 @ 0.25795169 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 50 @ 0.13 = 6.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 198 @ 0.105 = 20.79 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 500 @ 0.105 = 52.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.105 = 5.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 5 @ 0.12293 = 0.6147 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 3 @ 0.12293 = 0.3688 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 1 @ 0.12293 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 1 @ 1.1799 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 3 @ 0.12293 = 0.3688 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 4 @ 1.1799 = 4.7196 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 4 @ 1.18 = 4.72 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 1 @ 1.1798 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 2 @ 0.12293 = 0.2459 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 5 @ 0.95 = 4.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 17 @ 0.73 = 12.41 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.73999999 = 7.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 53 @ 0.749999 = 39.7499 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 21 @ 1.025 = 21.525 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.026 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.749999 = 6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 50 @ 0.7599989 = 37.9999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 5 @ 0.95 = 4.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7912 @ 0.00092816 = 7.3436 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10088 @ 0.00092586 = 9.3401 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.6011 = 1.2022 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00039346 = 14.3219 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 25 @ 0.601 = 15.025 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.6121 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.6011 = 1.8033 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.921 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21360 @ 0.00039311 = 8.3968 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.0003885 = 8.8578 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11840 @ 0.0003824 = 4.5276 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.0003824 = 0.2677 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 20 @ 0.1249 = 2.498 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 158 @ 0.10288 = 16.255 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.1029 = 0.6174 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 836 @ 0.103 = 86.108 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1000 @ 0.103 = 103 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 27 @ 0.1219999 = 3.294 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 2 @ 0.799 = 1.598 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5499 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 12 @ 0.1001 = 1.2012 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 1 @ 1.17268084 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 30 @ 1.17268084 = 35.1804 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 7 @ 1.17268084 = 8.2088 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8153 @ 0.00039346 = 3.2079 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 10 @ 0.00906 = 0.0906 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 2 @ 0.00905 = 0.0181 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 48 @ 0.00900001 = 0.432 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 7225 @ 0.00008011 = 0.5788 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 10 @ 0.00008 = 0.0008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 364 @ 0.00039346 = 0.1432 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39300 @ 0.00039353 = 15.4657 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5136 @ 0.00039355 = 2.0213 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.8489 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 1 @ 1.17268084 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 4 @ 0.0499 = 0.1996 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00039355 = 4.3291 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [-]
Ignatius-otc: huh...anyone want to offload some TYGRR.BOND-PI?
Gladamas: I'll offload for 1.2 BTC
Gladamas: j/k
Ignatius-otc: I am surprised to see it below 1. I trust chaang, to about 1 BTC each on those:D
plusEV: i have some TYGRR.BOND-P
Ignatius-otc: how much and how many plusEV?
plusEV: 77 at .85
Ignatius-otc: I can get it off the market for less so I will have to pass for now. Thank you though.
Ignatius-otc: Fear and panic seems to have set in today?
plusEV: ok
plusEV: I will do .8
Ignatius-otc: I guess you don't think the deposits will be returned...or btc will lose too much value before they are?
plusEV: i don't know about btc price
plusEV: but I think there is a chance pirate will not pay back
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 2 @ 0.09989 = 0.1998 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.6201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3258 @ 0.00095759 = 3.1198 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 250 @ 0.1 = 25 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GREEN] 1 @ 0.749 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9100 @ 0.00097057 = 8.8322 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.7987 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 50 @ 0.991 = 49.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2525 @ 0.00039355 = 0.9937 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.6203 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.6103 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: smickles hmmm, app.net. i got a trade rss.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.13899999 = 0.278 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1249 = 0.2498 BTC [+]
Ignatius-otc: oh no its mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: ono!
dust-otc: EskimoBob: I do not trust pirate
Ignatius-otc: Then sniping passthroughs was a bad idea
dub: dust-otc: how much are you selling for
dust-otc: current ask
EskimoBob: dust-otc: nor do I but so far he has made sure hes good for what ever he said
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 400 @ 0.009 = 3.6 BTC [-]
dust-otc: Eskimobob: but this is the hardest part to make good on :)
dub: dust-otc: right I'll just check
EmanuelDeOrtego: Look Pirate is going to pay back
Ignatius-otc: 0.79*
EskimoBob: and I think those guys think bigger that 10K+ coins :)
EmanuelDeOrtego: After he crashes the market to $8
EmanuelDeOrtego: If he's drunk
EmanuelDeOrtego: We're going to $1
dub: that would be rad
EskimoBob: ;;last
gribble: [02:14:17] <dub> that would be rad
EmanuelDeOrtego: ;;last
gribble: [02:14:28] <EskimoBob> ;;last
EskimoBob: no, this is not right
dust-otc: I thought sniping passthroughs was a good idea, because I could buy after I knew interest was paid, but before the passthrough ops paid out divs
dub: hm ,,last
dust-otc: and then sell before next week when pirate had a chance to default
EskimoBob: how do you get the bid/ask/last quote
Ignatius-otc: well dust-otc it sounds like less risk than just holding...
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.969 = 4.845 BTC [+]
dust-otc: less risk, less profit
Ignatius-otc: ;;asks 11
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve order book data. Try again later.
Ignatius-otc: gribs been snubbing me on those requests all night
EmanuelDeOrtego: ;;market sell 100000
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve order book data. Try again later.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.9899 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: *middle finger*
dust-otc: who is buying passthroughs at that price
dust-otc: .99 really?
Ignatius-otc: great question:) theres a few better deals to be had
EskimoBob: dust-otc: ones who are sure the pirate promises are good
dust-otc: only pirate himself, if he is legit, should be buying at .99
EskimoBob: dust-otc: you are too depressing for so late afternoon
dub: dust-otc: table scraps? this dude is aballer
dub: in the 30 seconds each fucking click takes on GLBSE he probably makes 5 btc
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7400 @ 0.00100227 = 7.4168 BTC [+]
Ignatius-otc: well fire up an mtgox bot then dub:)
dust-otc: dub: I'm just saying the only way it would be +EV to buy passthroughs at .99 is if you were pirate
EskimoBob: lol @ "I would like an option to buy 2100 Bitcoins for $100 each on December, 2013"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32300 @ 0.00037106 = 11.9852 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: dust-otc the onwers prolly.
EmanuelDeOrtego: EskimoBob: What's so funny about that?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00037106 = 0.8905 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the only people who are on the hook for 1 anyway and don't want panic.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00037297 = 7.2729 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00037635 = 7.4141 BTC [+]
Ignatius-otc: I considered that, the issuer, but there ar emroe at that price and the entity only chose to buy 1.
mircea_popescu: so ?
Ignatius-otc: why buy 1
mircea_popescu: to create at least a minimum impression of movement
dust-otc: why would the issuer buy for such an high price?
Ignatius-otc: it has that impression regardless of the sale of 1 share
Ignatius-otc: bond*
dust-otc: are they really 99% sure of pirate
mircea_popescu: dust-otc aren't they insured ? he owes 1 on them anyway
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob i wouldn't underwrite that.
dust-otc: i'm talking about the recent FOO.PPPT and BIB.PIRATE trades, both uninsured
mircea_popescu: o o
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.789 = 4.734 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well that i dunno, but maybe its still the issuer toying with the ideea
Ignatius-otc: it's possible. the issue entered this room shortly before one of the buys, but didnt even say hi to us scrubs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00037635 = 0.7903 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6953 @ 0.00037748 = 2.6246 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lmao
Ignatius-otc: issuer entered*
mircea_popescu: many people have bots for irc.
EmanuelDeOrtego: lol
EmanuelDeOrtego: USD only has one thousand dollars in it
Ignatius-otc: yeah, and its...unusable pretty much
Ignatius-otc: great diea for an asset though if you could have it liquid and update the price frequently
Ignatius-otc: get the bid/ask spread low...Id use it to hedge at times, I couldnt be the only one.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I figured out what's holding back Bitcoin.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Bitcoin.org and its shitty client
mircea_popescu: so make a new one.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Already done but Bitcoin.org is still stuck on being "official"
EmanuelDeOrtego: I mean, there are plenty of great clients out there
EmanuelDeOrtego: they just aren't marketed well enough
Ignatius-otc: Can you recommend one/some?
EmanuelDeOrtego: http://brainwallet.org is cool but needs work
mircea_popescu: so basically they suck more.
EmanuelDeOrtego: http://blockchain.info needs a updated md5 hash for the server's software
EmanuelDeOrtego: or something
EmanuelDeOrtego: but that's the concept of the future right htere
EmanuelDeOrtego: there*
EmanuelDeOrtego: Web clients with actually encrypted wallets are where its at.
brendio: hi scrubs :)
Ignatius-otc: ha, i figured as much
Ignatius-otc: how was your weekend?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 507 @ 0.00038937 = 0.1974 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4193 @ 0.0003965 = 1.6625 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.09879999 = 0.494 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.09889999 = 3.956 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.099 = 0.594 BTC [+]
brendio: my irc automatically reconnects when I open my computer, it often takes some time to catch up on everything
brendio: no, those trades weren't me.
brendio: Weekend fine so far, halfway through. very hot here!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10047 @ 0.00038846 = 3.9029 BTC [-]
Ignatius-otc: things are so slow that was all voer the tarde of 1 share of bib.pirate and i forget how few foo's:P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11453 @ 0.00037096 = 4.2486 BTC [-]
Ignatius-otc: I quit counting Sunday into my weekends because the currency market spring to life in the evening so I usually watch that.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 4 @ 0.18281868 = 0.7313 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080N] 2 @ 0.44071232 = 0.8814 BTC [+]
brendio: going out for a walk in the forest soon.
Ignatius-otc: where are you at?
brendio: Germany at the moment
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.72 = 14.4 BTC [-]
Ignatius-otc: oh nice. I have never left the continental USA. I would like to some day.
mircea_popescu: hi brendio :p
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc you absolutely must.
brendio: hi and soon bye
mircea_popescu: tada hehe
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.0003965 = 4.1633 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.099 = 0.198 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 100 @ 1 = 100 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITNODES] 4 @ 0.243 = 0.972 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 7 @ 0.1002 = 0.7014 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: Obsi: pay the dividends already
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITNODES] 4 @ 0.243 = 0.972 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: amazing how meaningless 1% per week feels now
EskimoBob: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00037096 = 0.8347 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4790 @ 0.00036779 = 1.7617 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28060 @ 0.00036743 = 10.3101 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: what do you guys this is it possible to finance a art studio with GLBSE stock offer?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160N] 4 @ 0.13421876 = 0.5369 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: there will be divs when everything gets set up. IPO proceeds are used to buy some equipment. Equipment actually produces revenue because people buy time to use it
EmanuelDeOrtego: Fuck Pirate so hard
EmanuelDeOrtego: He doesn't even care about Bitcoin
EmanuelDeOrtego: He just dumps on the market without a hint of remorse
mircea_popescu: why should he care ?!
EmanuelDeOrtego: I guess he isn't obligated to
EmanuelDeOrtego: but gosh darn it
EmanuelDeOrtego: why did he join in the first place?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Does he see any future value in Bitcoin?
dub: where you been atlas, we thought you'd e-suicided again
dub: of course, hoping you did it for real
Diablo-D3: man
Diablo-D3: so
Diablo-D3: predictinator was down for like 4 days
EmanuelDeOrtego: dub, spending my days at Starbucks pissing coffee
Diablo-D3: market was fine
Diablo-D3: predictinator comes back up
Diablo-D3: everyone wakes up the next morning
Diablo-D3: reads predictinator
dub: starbucks is not coffee
Diablo-D3: market immediately crashes
EmanuelDeOrtego: Don't tell me my Americano is not coffee
Diablo-D3: tl;dr: predictinator controls the market
EmanuelDeOrtego: Because I see them brew the espresso
EmanuelDeOrtego: Diablo-D3: I'll buy your site if that's true
EmanuelDeOrtego: Some fag wants to turn the Bitcoin article on Wikipedia to the Bitcoin-Qt article again.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I'll die before that happens.
Diablo-D3: not that shit again
Diablo-D3: Im going to campaign for the web browser page to be turned into the firefox page
Diablo-D3: IMPLEMENTATION == SPECIFICATION
Diablo-D3: IMPLEMENTATION == SPECIFICATION
Diablo-D3: IMPLEMENTATION == SPECIFICATION
Diablo-D3: IMPLEMENTATION == SPECIFICATION
Diablo-D3: IMPLEMENTATION == SPECIFICATION
Diablo-D3: HERP DERP
Diablo-D3: HERP DERP
Diablo-D3: fucking wikipedia
Diablo-D3: the trash of the internet
EmanuelDeOrtego: I bet its some Bitcoin-Qt developer who wants take all the credit for Bitcoin's current success.
Diablo-D3: EmanuelDeOrtego: who, satoshi?
EmanuelDeOrtego: No, Satoshi would be pissed off.
Diablo-D3: you missed the point
EmanuelDeOrtego: Either Gmaxwell or Andresen
Diablo-D3: most of the code still is satoshis, everyone else just refined it
EmanuelDeOrtego: Ha, yes, now I get you
Anduck: well
Anduck: put a notice in the article that specifies it is not the same as bitcoin-qt
Diablo-D3: even the qt shit was done with qt's tools and copy's satoshis original shit
Diablo-D3: Anduck: that doesnt work
Anduck: put it with cat-sized letters
EmanuelDeOrtego: If we had to rely totally on the Bitcoin.org development team, we would be so fucked.
Anduck: and red.
Diablo-D3: the only way to stop wikipedia is to claim wikipedia is non-notable
Anduck: u cant do it
Anduck: just try to stop him from editing it shitway
Diablo-D3: since they cant use other wikipedia pages to claim something is notable, all of wikipedia will have to be deleted as per policy
Anduck: think about normal users
Anduck: just keep it simple
Anduck: people use wikipedia
Anduck: and will use
Diablo-D3: dude, if you use wikipedia, you're a fucktard
Anduck: well, then 95% of internet people are fucktards
Diablo-D3: YES.
Diablo-D3: YES THEY ARE.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Anduck, I'll have to do that during an edit war
Anduck: :D
Anduck: yeah
Diablo-D3: I once used a throwaway account over tor to edit GWB's article to say hes actually a reptile in human guise
EmanuelDeOrtego: Because some shithead is going to go BITCOIN.ORG IS THE BESTEST FUCK CAPITALIST PIGS IMPROVING BITCOIN
Diablo-D3: no one reverted it for days
EmanuelDeOrtego: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3969 @ 0.00036743 = 1.4583 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Pirate is having a hard time with the market.
EmanuelDeOrtego: He has 20,000 Bitcoins to go through before he can buy in at his preferred $8 price
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12447 @ 0.00036743 = 4.5734 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11253 @ 0.00036483 = 4.1054 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Oh damn, the price dropped again!
EmanuelDeOrtego: Yep, Pirate wants it at $8
EmanuelDeOrtego: Then he can buyback
EmanuelDeOrtego: Pay his investors
Diablo-D3: huh
Diablo-D3: thats pretty smart of him
EmanuelDeOrtego: He would of paid them all off otherwise
BTC-Mining: Ah, he made a claim about that?
EmanuelDeOrtego: This is all speculation on my part but I did see him get butthurt when it went over 9
EmanuelDeOrtego: It all matches up though. I mean, why hasn't he paid off his investors yet?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Why did he close down at the $15 mark?
usagi: NYAN news! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97178.msg1112462#msg1112462
usagi: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.64999, Best ask: 9.65, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 9.65, 24 hour volume: 121860, 24 hour low: 9.51, 24 hour high: 12.192
BTC-Mining: All matches up? Tell me, how could he lower the price so much?
usagi: There was at one point over half a million dollars from 10 to 14
usagi: He burned through all that, really?
EmanuelDeOrtego: BTC-Mining: The man has a mixed holding of USD and Bitcoin
usagi: Sounds a little unbelievable but who knows
EmanuelDeOrtego: Over hundreds of thousands of Bitcoins
EmanuelDeOrtego: He needs his USD in Bitcoins to pay off his investors
EmanuelDeOrtego: So what does he do?
dub: fuck my internet tonight
EmanuelDeOrtego: He dumps his Bitcoins gradually with hopes of buying those back plus his investors cost.
dub: and fuck debian
dub: bash: telnet: command not found
BTC-Mining: Makes no sense, his bids would force the price up right back
dub: what the fuck
BTC-Mining: There's a much stronger demand then asks
EmanuelDeOrtego: He never makes bids
EmanuelDeOrtego: He buys at market rates he likes
EmanuelDeOrtego: Again, take what you wish from me but I've seen him play the market before.
EmanuelDeOrtego: The guy has a lot of money
EmanuelDeOrtego: He has over 400,000 Bitcoins
EmanuelDeOrtego: That can take the market to $1
Anduck: maybe he crashes btc-e and not mtgox is following? or vice versa
EmanuelDeOrtego: Yes, that may be the case.
Anduck: now*
farfi_: he doesnt have over 400k coins
farfi_: he OWES over 400k coins
EmanuelDeOrtego: Doesn't matter
EmanuelDeOrtego: Those coins are in his hands
EmanuelDeOrtego: and he plays with them
Anduck: is there a thread about this stuff
Anduck: ?
farfi_: they arent in his hands
Anduck: imo he doesnt have that much
Anduck: where did u get that 400k?
BTC-Mining: pure speculations... -.-
DiabloD3: yeah
dust-otc: Anduck: estimates from interest payments
DiabloD3: if he crashes the market with them
Anduck: ok
DiabloD3: and then buys them back at a much cheaper price
DiabloD3: he wins
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31009 @ 0.00036997 = 11.4724 BTC [+]
Anduck: yes
dust-otc: i think you guys are overestimating the profitability of this kind of manipulation
EmanuelDeOrtego: The guy is a retired 40 year old and this is his side project
EmanuelDeOrtego: dust-otc: The market is so puny
dust-otc: if you sell to crash, you are selling some of your coins low
EmanuelDeOrtego: Not if you project it on the volumes correctly
EmanuelDeOrtego: The market is easily quantified
EmanuelDeOrtego: This is not rocket science
DiabloD3: yes, but what if you have 400k
EmanuelDeOrtego: nor a typical market
DiabloD3: you sell from $15 the whole way down to $5
DiabloD3: then you buy from $1 up to $5
DiabloD3: you now have 400k coins
DiabloD3: you also have a fuckton of usd
dust-otc: how does price go from $5 to $1
farfi_: panic
dust-otc: when someone sells down to $5
DiabloD3: panic
EmanuelDeOrtego: That's only 100,000 Bitcoins or so
DiabloD3: its standard panic intertia
EmanuelDeOrtego: It takes nothing to make that happen from the view of a retired man with decent savings
dust-otc: if the price crashes to $5 and it isn't due to some sort of illegality
dust-otc: who is selling then?
dust-otc: i would be buying
EmanuelDeOrtego: Hence why we are headed back to $10
EmanuelDeOrtego: Noone said it was easy
EmanuelDeOrtego: His whole strategy relies on not being detected
EmanuelDeOrtego: Else the market will write him off
DiabloD3: dust-otc: thats the thing
DiabloD3: markets are VERY efficient
DiabloD3: you will see the effect of the news before you see the news
BTC-Mining: The demand is still strong... and it is increasing as prices drop
dust-otc: but if the price crashes to $5, I will check the news before I panic to $1
DiabloD3: so if it flash crashes the whole way from $15 to $5, people are going to sell THEN google for "bitcoin illegal fbi"
BTC-Mining: Markets. It just works.
dust-otc: DiabloD3: that is an incorrect assumption
DiabloD3: dust-otc: thats you, and thats also me
DiabloD3: but we're not 99% of people
DiabloD3: nope, its a 100% correct assumption
DiabloD3: people are fucking stupid
DiabloD3: doublely so when they panic
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.099 = 3.267 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: This is exactly why I don't sell my bitcoins... I see too much bids and low asks
BTC-Mining: The drop is due to large sales...
DiabloD3: I'
BTC-Mining: certainly related to pirate closing
DiabloD3: er
dust-otc: I think either pirate is in a very tough spot, or was straight running a ponzi
DiabloD3: I'd rather default on credit cards before selling bitcoins
BTC-Mining: But I'm not betting as to when they go back up
EmanuelDeOrtego: It will stabilize to $10 on Monday
dust-otc: either way, he might not be able to pay back
BTC-Mining: dust-otc, seeing how it ended, I would think the same thing
EmanuelDeOrtego: else Pirate refuses to go into the red
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: why do you think Pirate is dumping BTC? He needs a assload of it next week
EmanuelDeOrtego: You have to get started some time
EmanuelDeOrtego: He needs a week or so to collect
Anduck: do u think pirate will pay?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Yes
EmanuelDeOrtego: Else he is dead
EmanuelDeOrtego: People know him
dust-otc: unfortunately for pirate, if he can't pay back, his scheme is indistinguishable from a ponzi
BTC-Mining: The way to have done it would have been to put a humongous ask wall of 400k BTC at 10$
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: so you are pulling those facts out of your ass?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1.01 = 2.02 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: EskimoBob: I am not stating anything empirical
BTC-Mining: That should have made the market unenthusiastic about buying
EmanuelDeOrtego: People see right through ask walls
EskimoBob: just bullshiting?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Nah, I am trading off this information
BTC-Mining: Yes, but would have still required a huge volume
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.6201 = 1.2402 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: so you are lying and manipulating market with bull shit to make few pennies?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Nope
EskimoBob: or you think that market reacts to your load of crap and it makes you feel good?
EmanuelDeOrtego: I don't think people are that stupid
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego = atlas ?!
EmanuelDeOrtego: Yes
EmanuelDeOrtego: The facts are Pirate is low on Bitcoins and he can't profitably buy at these current prices.
EskimoBob: how do you know that?
mircea_popescu: <EmanuelDeOrtego> Either Gmaxwell << prolly gmaxwell. he's the sort of useless faggot that tries to prop his idiocy through administrative crap.
usagi: That isn't a fact....
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 100 @ 0.13 = 13 BTC [+]
Anduck: who's atlas?
EmanuelDeOrtego: His account balances are easily seen. I need to recheck them.
EskimoBob: did your ass told you this fact EmanuelDeOrtego?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Look, write me off if that is your nature.
DiabloD3: atlas is this faggot troll on the forums
DiabloD3: hes going by p4man now
EmanuelDeOrtego: lol
EmanuelDeOrtego: no
EmanuelDeOrtego: You have no obligation to respect my speculation
EskimoBob: p4man is not that bad at all but "EmanuelDeOrtego" character is a joke
DiabloD3: RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH dot jaypeg.
Anduck: btw, what happened to the 10k btc bet with pirate and vandroiyu ormsmth?
DiabloD3: EskimoBob: psst, EmanuelDeOrtego IS atlas
BTC-Mining: Well KRAKEN is IPOing soon on GLBSE
EmanuelDeOrtego: EskimoBob: The fact you are emotionally stricken by my speculation says something.
Anduck: BTC-Mining: wat is KRAKEN?
DiabloD3: EMOTIONALLY STRICKEN
dust-otc: Anduck: Patrick Harnett's fund
DiabloD3: so what, he got a boner or something?
EmanuelDeOrtego: It says you are not receptive to what the real truth is regardless if I am saying it or not.
EskimoBob: no, I am not emonitionally stricken
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 15 @ 0.1051 = 1.5765 BTC [-]
dust-otc: Anduck: well, KRAKEN is a passthrough
EmanuelDeOrtego: You have an incentive for me to be wrong.
BTC-Mining: My passthru to Patrick Harnett's fund, paying 0% - 2.5% a week
Anduck: ok
DiabloD3: your mom gave me an emotionally stricken. howza.
BTC-Mining: Unlike pirate, I trust those rates to be real
DiabloD3: BTC-Mining: but not less than 0%?
BTC-Mining: Not less than 0%, no
dust-otc: I trust Patrick Harnett, although his support of pirate makes me trust him less than I would otherwise
BTC-Mining: He backs it with the whole of his funds, if there's a loss, he'll pay from his money
DiabloD3: huh
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: you just spamm this forum and this is a bit annoying. YTour drivel drowns most of the interesting information
EmanuelDeOrtego: Spam is subjective.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Interesting is subjective.
dust-otc: I regret not buying out all of his capacity, and creating a passthrough
mircea_popescu: so this is nao -otc
mircea_popescu: bah.
dust-otc: that is where the risk free profit is
BTC-Mining: Hey... my money!
BTC-Mining: Throw your own money, DiabloD3 =/
DiabloD3: BTC-Mining: how many original IPO shares have you not sold yet?
BTC-Mining: I haven't sold one yet... heck they've never been on sale so far.
DiabloD3: what, really?
DiabloD3: then what have I been buying?
BTC-Mining: Are you talking about KRAKEN?
DiabloD3: no, btc-mining
EmanuelDeOrtego: I have one question: Why would Pirate delay his payouts if he has all the Bitcoins ready in hand? Why would he pay the price of more scrutiny and calls for a ponzi just for an extra week of not paying?
EmanuelDeOrtego: call of a*
Anduck: would you people use a stock exchange that didn't lag and looked professional and be very secure?
EmanuelDeOrtego: It does not take a week to payout and already well-managed fund.
EmanuelDeOrtego: an*
BTC-Mining: because an actual ponzi?
EmanuelDeOrtego: The likely case is that he does not have enough Bitcoins but has it all in USD.
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: there is another channel for questions like this.
EskimoBob: go ask him
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6747 @ 0.00036483 = 2.4615 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: EskimoBob: He wouldn't admit this because it would ruin it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00036468 = 4.595 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: If he tells the market he needs to buyback
EmanuelDeOrtego: We're back at 15 dollars
EmanuelDeOrtego: We only need to look at the principles here
EskimoBob: so I guess he bought all the coin he needed :) LOL @ EmanuelDeOrtego
blazing: so when will we see a rise in price again?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Before next weeks payout
BTC-Mining: As for your question DiabloD3, there's 7631 shares left for BTC-MINING
Anduck: would you people use a stock exchange that didn't lag and looked professional and be very secure? and be made by me
EmanuelDeOrtego: EskimoBob: Can't be true because if he has the Bitcoins in hand, he would of already paid back his investors.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Again, it's all a matter of principles.
BTC-Mining: Good luck Anduck...
DiabloD3: BTC-Mining: man, I wish I could buy them all
DiabloD3: BTC-Mining: over the next three months Ill buy about 150
DiabloD3: well
DiabloD3: assuming if someone else doesnt jump in there first
BTC-Mining: It's costy, there's for about 100 000$ in IPO
DiabloD3: at least its keeping DMC going
BTC-Mining: We've only got about $24000 so far
EskimoBob: DiabloD3: you are still buying mining turds? Have you learned anything over the past month or so?
DiabloD3: EskimoBob: I currently have none
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.099 = 0.198 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Mining turds still have backing
EmanuelDeOrtego: You just need to know how to manage that backing
BTC-Mining: BTC-MINING is not a fixed mhash bond...
DiabloD3: EskimoBob: you do realize I hold 56 ghash in asicmining, right?
BTC-Mining: 56 hypothetical ghash
EskimoBob: 56 GH of nothing as of now. In the future IF! they get the chip working - YES
EmanuelDeOrtego: usagi: Anyways, yes, what I am not saying is not absolutely empirical. You just need to answer the question of why Pirate is delaying.
EmanuelDeOrtego: what I am saying*
DiabloD3: EskimoBob: well, Im willing to take the risk
usagi: At least someone thinks I am doing a good job, someone just bought 100 NYAN.B :) Thanks guys.
usagi: I don't know why he is delaying.
usagi: Maybe he isn't delaying?
usagi: It makes sense that he pays on the usual day
BTC-Mining: Emanuel, I'd personally say he needs time to disappear from the map but...
EmanuelDeOrtego: usagi: You do your homework.
BTC-Mining: Hopefully that won't be that case
usagi: If he closes down it makes sense he will pay on that day as usual.
EmanuelDeOrtego: You're likely right. It might just be tradition but it still seem unusual to me especially with everyone dogging him out.
Anduck: 9.2
usagi: I talk to a lot of people and a lot of the people who are invested in me have a vested (hence the term) financial interest in making sure that I know what I need to know to keep their money safe.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Even the coldest man still desires respect.
EskimoBob: and please, stop talking in Mm/s giga what ever. Difficulty eating it up faster than any infaltin east at any currency in the world
usagi: I only know what I need to know, and personally, I trust pirate.
BTC-Mining: I really hope you're right...
usagi: Me too
EmanuelDeOrtego: I do as well. I trust that he isn't a man that goes into the red or wants to payout of his own savings.
BTC-Mining: I'd prefer a "Huge returns real in bitcoin world" news than "Yet another scam in bitcoin world"
EskimoBob: same here :) got a nice pile of BTC on that
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining don't worry, the former will never happen
EmanuelDeOrtego: I trust he isn't a man that doesn't want his head blown off by a darknet assassin because he didn't pay.
mircea_popescu: it'll be the later etiehr way. media knows which side's buttered
EmanuelDeOrtego: that wants*
mircea_popescu: darknet assasin ? gtfo.
usagi: Darknet?
EskimoBob: lol
EskimoBob: you just took the road to funny farm ... for good
usagi: So we can choose to be on the dark side or the light side?
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego:
usagi: I like this idea
EmanuelDeOrtego: Darknet = Tor
mircea_popescu: lightnet assasin chick gives him a bj.
usagi: I get to be a jedi now.. Or a sith.
mircea_popescu: i'd ignopre the idiot but then the entire rest of you will keep ranting at him so i'd just end up with random garble.
mircea_popescu: can we just get back to the topic ?
usagi: Use my knowledge.. I beg you. And you can save your secret pirate investments, from certain death.
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: you really need to call Jack Bauer. He will fix this
EmanuelDeOrtego: mircea_popescu: Riddle me this: Why am I an idiot?
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego the darknet assasin comment sealed it.
EmanuelDeOrtego: That's me trying to be funny but people know Pirate's real name.
EmanuelDeOrtego: He is dead meat if he doesn't pay.
usagi: omg I just found a diamond in minecraft!
dust-otc: anyone want to bet pirate will not pay back everyone within 2 weeks?
mircea_popescu: no, see ? you just did it again.
mircea_popescu: this is why you're an idiot.
EskimoBob: Wha do you guys think. Can GLBSE IPO be used to set up a art studio? There will be divs when everything gets set up. IPO proceeds are used to buy equipment. Equipment actually produces revenue because people (not part of the studio) buy time to use it.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12300 @ 0.00098965 = 12.1727 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 15 @ 0.665 = 9.975 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Why am I an idiot? Because I believe Pirate's ability to function in the world is threatened if he goes bankrupt?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Because I don't believe Pirate is god?
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego because you think that knowing someone's name and killing someone are even vaguely related.
Anduck: ponzi runner can easily hide.
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego and mircea_popescu get a priv room and go for it
EmanuelDeOrtego: It was a sarcastic remark.
Anduck: did u know that?
EskimoBob: or just fuck off
mircea_popescu: ya srlsy.
EskimoBob: and wtf is atlas?
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.34996, Best ask: 9.34997, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 9.34997, 24 hour volume: 128078, 24 hour low: 9.251, 24 hour high: 12.178
mircea_popescu: o hey. nine.
mircea_popescu: ;;bids 9
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve order book data. Try again later.
mircea_popescu: o wow ?
mircea_popescu: ;;bids 9
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve order book data. Try again later.
mircea_popescu: down for good eh.
EskimoBob: gribble needs to be assboted
BTC-Mining: Actually, bitcoinchart is off too and MtGox is slow
BTC-Mining: http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
BTC-Mining: Says we're still over 10
EskimoBob: no
EskimoBob: it shows way below 9
EskimoBob: 10
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Oh, I meant the market depth part
mircea_popescu: ya you prolly need to reload BTC-Mining
mircea_popescu: a a
BTC-Mining: which might be why gribble can't get bids/asks
BTC-Mining: maybe that is unresponsive
assbot: [GLBSE] [007] 1 @ 0.199 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 1000 @ 0.07120175 = 71.2018 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.16157212 = 161.5721 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 1.0259 = 6.1554 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 14 @ 1.026 = 14.364 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 1.026 = 6.156 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.027 = 4.108 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.665 = 5.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 77 @ 0.75 = 57.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 34 @ 0.787 = 26.758 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 47 @ 0.788 = 37.036 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 42 @ 0.789 = 33.138 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 3 @ 0.0814 = 0.2442 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2300 @ 0.00098563 = 2.2669 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.92 = 1.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.789 = 4.734 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.1602952 = 160.2952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 1000 @ 0.07202061 = 72.0206 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o hey, people buying collars now ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 250 @ 0.00379535 = 0.9488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 275 @ 0.00378534 = 1.041 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 675 @ 0.00376575 = 2.5419 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: wow
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.24999, Best ask: 9.25, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 9.25, 24 hour volume: 134431, 24 hour low: 9.21, 24 hour high: 12.17477
kakobrekla: totally missed that one.
mircea_popescu: yeah.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100N] 1 @ 0.29482023 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: bought back too damn fast again
kakobrekla: same mistakes, always
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 69 @ 0.34826193 = 24.0301 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: don't try to time the market.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 30 @ 0.02904109 = 0.8712 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 20 @ 0.02562805 = 0.5126 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 11 @ 0.02373254 = 0.2611 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: well the breaking of 10$ is what worries me
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 4 @ 0.21332463 = 0.8533 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yeah i can see it.
Anduck: did u know that?
Anduck: ops
Anduck: missclick
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1 @ 0.4247919 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120N] 1 @ 0.20738791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P040T] 6 @ 0.0265118 = 0.1591 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P040T] 29 @ 0.02590221 = 0.7512 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P040T] 28 @ 0.01847604 = 0.5173 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P040T] 10 @ 0.01521074 = 0.1521 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: incredible wjhat 300k btc can do to the market lol
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 8.89, Best ask: 8.999, Bid-ask spread: 0.10900, Last trade: 8.89, 24 hour volume: 139301, 24 hour low: 8.89, 24 hour high: 12.17477
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1600 @ 0.00098965 = 1.5834 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7600 @ 0.00100227 = 7.6173 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5325 @ 0.00100515 = 5.3524 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: course all the miner bonds are REALLY useless now
DiabloD3: yes
DiabloD3: so if you dont want them anymore
DiabloD3: Ill take them
mircea_popescu: how's your acquisitions going btw ?
kakobrekla: next week or two is gonna be wicket i smell.
kakobrekla: wicked*
DiabloD3: mircea_popescu: well, I think people are pissed Im asking 15mh per trade now
DiabloD3: EmanuelDeOrtego: so?
DiabloD3: -_-`
DiabloD3: its not cool, Im trying to save bitcoin here
mircea_popescu: so did you manage to trade anything ?
DiabloD3: the word you'r elooking for is awesome
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 8.88273, Best ask: 8.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01726, Last trade: 8.89999, 24 hour volume: 138737, 24 hour low: 8.88273, 24 hour high: 12.17477
DiabloD3: mircea_popescu: not much.
DiabloD3: DOWN WE GO
mircea_popescu: it didn't change much from prev did it, the ticker i mean.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 1.027 = 9.243 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: bah
kakobrekla: clark moody still stuck at 10.8
kakobrekla: sucks balls
DiabloD3: I guess predictinator was right
DiabloD3: it just had the wrong time scale
mircea_popescu: i tell you this has been my largest month to date for options.
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 8.84729, Best ask: 8.8494, Bid-ask spread: 0.00211, Last trade: 8.8494, 24 hour volume: 137908, 24 hour low: 8.8494, 24 hour high: 12.17477
kakobrekla: 2k aint shit
mircea_popescu: 2k what ?
BTC-Mining: I wanted to get all my BTC out to sell them at 15$... couldn't make it
DiabloD3: OVER NINE THOUSAND
BTC-Mining: came back from work and it was down to 12
mircea_popescu: sucks lol
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining you should have sold puts :D
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 95 @ 0.105 = 9.975 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: basis? basis is to buy them back at a lower rate
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD_depth.html << i think mtgox has frozen api
mircea_popescu: cause clarkmoody stuck in same spot
elementz: hi all
mircea_popescu: hi.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 8.87823, Best ask: 8.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.02177, Last trade: 8.99999, 24 hour volume: 137433, 24 hour low: 8.831, 24 hour high: 12
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
elementz: i was just wandering; is there a way to buy call/put options somewhere in bitcoin economy?
gribble: Time since last block: 3 minutes and 57 seconds
mircea_popescu: elementz http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php
mircea_popescu: it's in the chanel topic, too
mircea_popescu: but i guess nobody reads topics anymore
elementz: oh yeah looked into that. looks really complicated ;-)
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 8.87823, Best ask: 8.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.02177, Last trade: 8.99999, 24 hour volume: 137433, 24 hour low: 8.831, 24 hour high: 12
mircea_popescu: well i don't know that there's simpler ways.
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: mtg says 9
kakobrekla: :p
elementz: what about otc? are there people doing it?
mircea_popescu: not really. some people do options for stocks ocasionally, but it's in general among trusted parties.
BTC-Mining: bids are being removed...
elementz: ok
mircea_popescu: what if this isn't really a pirate thing but gox got hacked again !?
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.1248 = 0.3744 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 13 @ 0.1249 = 1.6237 BTC [+]
elementz: so the only way would be via mpex.
mircea_popescu: elementz the simpler way, anyway.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PIMP] 58 @ 0.15 = 8.7 BTC [+]
zefir: ZETA-MINING: dividends for week 33.2012 paid early
kakobrekla: BTC-Mining from where?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 700 @ 0.30782685 = 215.4788 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: mtgox live
BTC-Mining: 10k just got removed
BTC-Mining: I don't mind price going down, I'll buy some more at 4-5 like in the good old days.
BTC-Mining: Mine too
EskimoBob: :( 8.91371 USD
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1000 @ 0.21618514 = 216.1851 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 1000 @ 0.13794295 = 137.943 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: 9.02632 :)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 1000 @ 0.07816983 = 78.1698 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: doubt it will hold
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 1000 @ 0.05243851 = 52.4385 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190N] 4 @ 0.09904921 = 0.3962 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090N] 1 @ 0.34620574 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100N] 3 @ 0.28788494 = 0.8637 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 1000 @ 0.14378959 = 143.7896 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i would guess we're gonna sit around nine from now on.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.03998, Best ask: 9.03999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 9.03999, 24 hour volume: 139125, 24 hour low: 8.831, 24 hour high: 12
mircea_popescu: ;;asks 10
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve order book data. Try again later.
EskimoBob: mtgox is changes UI so much I can not find the orderbook :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1.01 = 2.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.0051 = 4.0204 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 1.0051 = 5.0255 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.992 = 4.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9912 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.991 = 1.982 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 41 @ 0.97 = 39.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10212 @ 0.00099409 = 10.1516 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7900 @ 0.00099247 = 7.8405 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 800 @ 0.00098563 = 0.7885 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5064 @ 0.00098505 = 4.9883 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14016 @ 0.00097996 = 13.7351 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2200 @ 0.00097991 = 2.1558 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10800 @ 0.00097931 = 10.5765 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 17000 @ 0.00097778 = 16.6223 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7889 @ 0.00096869 = 7.642 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4119 @ 0.00096853 = 3.9894 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.096 = 9.6 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.12378, Best ask: 9.12379, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 9.12379, 24 hour volume: 139768, 24 hour low: 8.831, 24 hour high: 12
mircea_popescu: omg rally!
mircea_popescu: all the way to 15! YAAA
mircea_popescu: gogogo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35153 @ 0.00036457 = 12.8157 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27949 @ 0.00036997 = 10.3403 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00036308 = 3.9939 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11714 @ 0.00036299 = 4.2521 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.17, Best ask: 9.19, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 9.19, 24 hour volume: 141252, 24 hour low: 8.831, 24 hour high: 12
mircea_popescu: oya!
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 13 @ 1.18 = 15.34 BTC [+]
elementz: so does anyone know, when the pirate bond really picked up traction? can it be correlated with the pricetrend over the last year somehow? did anybody try this at all?
mircea_popescu: elementz the various bonds offered on pirate are really a tiny part of the pie.
mircea_popescu: maybe 10% or so.
elementz: ok, so how big was the whole pirate operation though?
mircea_popescu: people claim around 500k
Anduck: btc
mircea_popescu: the bonds never did 50k afaik.
nefario: wow is the price of BTC dropping like a rock
mircea_popescu: no actually now it's rallying nefario . dropped earlier to ~8.x
elementz: hm. so how many btc exist all in a atm?
dub: ;;bc,totalbtc
gribble: Error: "bc,totalbtc" is not a valid command.
dub: ;;bc,totalbc
gribble: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
dub: 9 million or so
dub: iirc
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 1000 @ 0.14600797 = 146.008 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 9.7mn
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.21199, Best ask: 9.262, Bid-ask spread: 0.05001, Last trade: 9.262, 24 hour volume: 142645, 24 hour low: 8.831, 24 hour high: 12
elementz: hmm. so about 5.5% percent of total btc were tied up in pirates operation.
mircea_popescu: .py 500 / 9700
blazing: !ticker
markac: 0
assbot: Provide ticker.
mircea_popescu: that's right. 0%. :D
elementz: so how come he could move the price so much then? if he actually did that at all
mircea_popescu: the total volume of past 3 days was about 300k
mircea_popescu: mt gox is really not the be all-end all. plenty of btc moves otc etc.
elementz: but i guess most people use mtgox as a reference for their price, no?
mircea_popescu: many people do, yes.
mircea_popescu: it's a pretty good reference in general, just, it's not gospel is all.
elementz: k
mircea_popescu: that aside, if i were to sell 5.5% of any stock it would drop significantly too.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't happen irl because the people who own that much are sane and don't do this sort of shit
mircea_popescu: and the reason that is the case is the fact that irl people don't just hand their money to any random dood.
mircea_popescu: btc still has a lot to learn.
EskimoBob: "plenty of btc moves otc etc" - seriously?
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob yes.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 5 @ 1.0001 = 5.0005 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.35614, Best ask: 9.3989, Bid-ask spread: 0.04276, Last trade: 9.4, 24 hour volume: 143134, 24 hour low: 8.831, 24 hour high: 12
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: are you adding all non exchange transactions to OTC?
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: seeing how that's what otc means.
mircea_popescu: i didn't mean -otc as in the cesspool.
EskimoBob: This is not really accurate
EskimoBob: because you have no idea WHY coins are moved
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.027 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i didn't mean "all transactions seen in the blockchain"
mircea_popescu: i meant transactions in the financial sense, btc for usd or what have you
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.12 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.112 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1.027 = 2.054 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8042 @ 0.00036997 = 2.9753 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17958 @ 0.00037987 = 6.8217 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 14 @ 0.795 = 11.13 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.79859997 = 1.5972 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.799 = 3.995 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 75 @ 0.799 = 59.925 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.799 = 3.995 BTC [+]
elementz: mircea_popescu: so to get back to mpex; so i could buy a low volume put option there? lets say 5btc. are there any options with a short term expiration date?
elementz: this might be a dumb question, but looking at the site i am a bit lost ;-)
nefario: you're not dumb
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: any experience with cryptostocks.com ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21359 @ 0.00037987 = 8.1136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13641 @ 0.00038047 = 5.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140N] 2 @ 0.15104119 = 0.3021 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: elementz options expire the current and the next month. the current ones are T
mircea_popescu: and you can buy in 1 btc increments (each option contract is for 1 btc). so depending what you want exactly 5btc will buy you a few.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 198 @ 1.027 = 203.346 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.57, Best ask: 9.64999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 9.64999, 24 hour volume: 142025, 24 hour low: 8.831, 24 hour high: 12
mircea_popescu: heh i'm guessing he didnt get that then huh.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 20 @ 0.97000001 = 19.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.97 = 4.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 30 @ 0.961 = 28.83 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.96 = 2.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.942 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.941 = 9.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.94 = 9.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.9 = 9 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 19500 @ 0.00097767 = 19.0646 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11523 @ 0.00096853 = 11.1604 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1200 @ 0.00095463 = 1.1456 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12800 @ 0.0009495 = 12.1536 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7912 @ 0.00092586 = 7.3254 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4007 @ 0.00092111 = 3.6909 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13400 @ 0.00091819 = 12.3037 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8471 @ 0.00091494 = 7.7505 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5301 @ 0.00090127 = 4.7776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7886 @ 0.00090054 = 7.1017 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P040T] 7 @ 0.01521074 = 0.1065 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P040T] 66 @ 0.00000034 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 35 @ 0.34073206 = 11.9256 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 3 @ 0.43671292 = 1.3101 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080T] 3 @ 0.01147612 = 0.0344 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.53269378 = 1.5981 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P070T] 3 @ 0.00022467 = 0.0007 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1 @ 0.72465551 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1 @ 0.62867465 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190N] 1 @ 0.82063637 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.756 = 2.268 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13759 @ 0.00038047 = 5.2349 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.0003855 = 2.7371 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00038559 = 5.0898 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 365941 @ 0.0003965 = 145.0956 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.99991 = 1.9998 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 15 @ 0.1082 = 1.623 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 7 @ 0.107 = 0.749 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 73 @ 0.101 = 7.373 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.124 = 0.248 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 12 @ 0.101 = 1.212 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 12 @ 0.9 = 10.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 33 @ 0.9 = 29.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 62 @ 0.9 = 55.8 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> elementz options expire the current and the next month. the current ones are T
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> and you can buy in 1 btc increments (each option contract is for 1 btc). so depending what you want exactly 5btc will buy you a few.
mircea_popescu: * elementz has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> heh i'm guessing he didnt get that then huh.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C040T] 1 @ 0.71202181 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C040T] 64 @ 0.61870882 = 39.5974 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P040T] 2 @ 0.00014536 = 0.0003 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P040T] 5 @ 0.00000034 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110N] 2 @ 0.12459087 = 0.2492 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 4300 @ 0.00011715 = 0.5037 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.835 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180N] 2 @ 0.72631035 = 1.4526 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160N] 2 @ 0.53416476 = 1.0683 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1049 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170N] 3 @ 0.63023755 = 1.8907 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120N] 4 @ 0.24995151 = 0.9998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150N] 5 @ 0.43809196 = 2.1905 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100N] 15 @ 0.14947786 = 2.2422 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.HASH.C10TH] 150000 @ 0.00003126 = 4.689 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.9899 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.3, Best ask: 9.39999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 9.4, 24 hour volume: 140154, 24 hour low: 8.831, 24 hour high: 12
mircea_popescu: ;;bids 9
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve order book data. Try again later.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.1 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 12 @ 0.1 = 1.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 2 @ 0.079 = 0.158 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 30 @ 0.05024501 = 1.5074 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.62010001 = 1.2402 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.62000001 = 1.86 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.497 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 20 @ 0.049 = 0.98 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: omfg dmc sells ?!
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1049 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !ticker DMC
assbot: [GLBSE:DMC] [Bid: 0.02888] [Ask: 0.049] [Spread: 0.02012] [Last: 0.049] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 0.04472505]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 5 @ 0.1002 = 0.501 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://andreiard.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/IMG_4967.jpg
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 22 @ 0.011 = 0.242 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51689 @ 0.0003965 = 20.4947 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 40 @ 0.08 = 3.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.13889999 = 0.4167 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 300 @ 0.1 = 30 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.1 = 0.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 25 @ 0.13889999 = 3.4725 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 15 @ 0.13899999 = 2.085 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;tricker
gribble: Error: "tricker" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: aww
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.83979 = 3.3592 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.83989 = 1.6798 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.84 = 16.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 50 @ 0.845 = 42.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.89999 = 17.9998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.0003965 = 6.5423 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.0003965 = 0.2776 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 50 @ 0.055 = 2.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 5 @ 0.699 = 3.495 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 11 @ 0.7 = 7.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 9 @ 0.74 = 6.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 100 @ 0.75 = 75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 73 @ 0.8 = 58.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 66 @ 0.8 = 52.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 13 @ 0.8 = 10.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 5 @ 0.9859 = 4.9295 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.6795 = 2.0385 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: did nasty strike gold ? hehe
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.6795 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
MadSweeney: way to go nasty
mircea_popescu: August 11, 2012, 06:17:05 PM A dividend of BTC8.5 has been paid.
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem like much gold.
EskimoBob: nasty div is up?
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.074 = 0.148 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: actually it was only 6.9 on the 18th
mircea_popescu: had some tech issues getting more stuff online.
EskimoBob: fuuck, we need to rise 12K EUR to get this going
mircea_popescu: ...
EskimoBob: project I mentioned before
mircea_popescu: i come from a world where "rise" always prefixes sums of 5 million or more.
mircea_popescu: just charge the 12k ffs.
EskimoBob: but it was never money for you projects
EskimoBob: and lets be honest, for start, you do not live in EU's "advanced" area so your "world" reference is a fkn joke
mircea_popescu: i guess your silly stereotypes are the reason you have to "raise" 12k to piss away on some side project you'll get bored with in a week.
Luceo: lol raise 12k? :S
Luceo: Withdraw it from the bank
EskimoBob: lol, fkn gipsy bankers and other piss poor wankers
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, there exist people who, should they wish to spend half a mass market car's worth on something, just go ahead and do it.
Luceo: EskimoBob: Umm, what are you talking about?
mircea_popescu: Luceo flavour of the week is gypsy. i think last week it was greek.
mircea_popescu: he has issues.
Luceo: Oh OK :P
Luceo: So what's this project he needs to raise 12k for? :P
Luceo: Deez Litecoiners :P
mircea_popescu: new toaster oven.
EskimoBob: no, looks like you have issues :)
EskimoBob: Luceo: what ever this imaginary money you use in your moms basement to buy "exotic pets" ...
Luceo: My mom doesn't have a basement, sorry. Try again.
EskimoBob: sorry, so you have to play in a cardboard box... too fkn bad
Luceo: Yes, because I'm the one struggling to 'raise' $12,000?
EskimoBob: so what is it for you? You like to participate or just jerk off here?
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob wait. didn't your online persona include some floor trading ? weren't you some retired financier ?
EskimoBob: and how is this even related to what ever you two asshats are so worked up about?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 1.03939 = 3.1182 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so basically your theory here is that you're an ex banker with typically white trash mental representations.
mircea_popescu: tis very amusing indeed.
DeaDTerra: evening :)
mircea_popescu: hi.
EskimoBob: what are you smoking mircea_popescu ?
DeaDTerra: what's going on? :P
copumpkin: oh surprise surprise, people being pleasant on the internet
mircea_popescu: DeaDTerra just having a little fun at the expense of the wannabes.
DeaDTerra: okay :P
EskimoBob: like yourself?
DeaDTerra: burned? xD
EskimoBob: man, get a life
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.13889999 = 0.2778 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: Anyone want to sell pirate assets?
Luceo: Sorry, I couldn't stop laughing at the idea of a banker talking about raising 12k eur ^^
Luceo: I know bankers who spend more than that at dinner...
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: you are always yapping even if you have nothing of value to add
mircea_popescu: Luceo i guess we're not supposed to remember things from the day before.
EskimoBob: Luceo: who told you I am a banker?
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob do you feel the need for a log quote ?
Luceo: EskimoBob: I know it's fast conversation in here sir, but try to keep up
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.13899999 = 1.39 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: is pulling crap out of his ass and is delusional enough to believe it's all true
Luceo: Sarcasm, btw, it's not
EskimoBob: so what is exactly your problem?
EskimoBob: forget I asked. I do not care
EskimoBob: ircea_popescu is a failed porn peddler. No wonder he has issues. What is your excuse Luceo?
mircea_popescu: mkay, since you insist.
EskimoBob: oops... I do not care :)
Luceo: My excuse for what?
Luceo: You're a particularly unpleasant and unknowledgeable person at the best of times, and apparently a discriminatory racist as well...
EskimoBob: Luceo: acting like a total idiot for start
DeaDTerra: Yea Eskimbob and Mircea have been sitting and fightin in this channel for the last couple of days xD
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C040N] 1 @ 0.75714749 BTC [-]
pigeons: you're momma's so fat
mircea_popescu: Aug 17 19:29:09 <EskimoBob> I used to work in finance for long time. Got bored and left. Never looked back
mircea_popescu: Aug 17 19:29:16 <EskimoBob> what a waste of life it is.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.7611 = 3.0444 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so then.
mircea_popescu: did you or didn;t you ?
EskimoBob: so?
mircea_popescu: so isn't in the set {yes, no}
pigeons: she doesn't need the internet, she's already world wide
mircea_popescu: but either way, if you worked in finance for a long time and left w/o 12k to your name you're even funnier than i had originally hoped for :D
EskimoBob: i am not sure what are you attempting to achieve mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: aww,
pigeons: EskimoBob's momma so poor she bounces food stamps
EskimoBob: you are even more clueless that I imagined. pople rise money for all sorts of shit no matter what thy have on their personal bank account
EskimoBob: how fkn stupid are you?
mircea_popescu: o, "people" do ? im sorry eskimodog, but we of teh internets know you're a dog.
mircea_popescu: what nao ?
Luceo: Not 12k
mircea_popescu: i am going grocery shopping bye all
mircea_popescu: gonna stop by glbse first and ipo my list.
mircea_popescu: should raise about $85.
Luceo: Nobody with a serious bank account allows other people to buy into a 12k venture, why would they?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 900 @ 0.00092602 = 0.8334 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: Luceo relax and take your medicine.
EskimoBob: you are as useless as any other troll
Luceo: Truth = trolling? lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 5 @ 0.00028 = 0.0014 BTC [+]
Luceo: If you've left a finance job and cant afford to throw 12k at something, I'd suggest nobody should want to throw 12k at you :P
EskimoBob: for start, you have no idea wtf I am talking about. You got all worked up over nothing and now you are just trolling
EskimoBob: what happened? did your mama hurt you?
pigeons: Luceo's momma so stupid she peels m&ms to make chocolate chip cookies
mircea_popescu: hahaha
EskimoBob: probably
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 1 @ 0.00028 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: Luceo go write some big numbers on a paper and imagine it's all yours. Will make you feel all rich and powerful .. LOL fkn retard
mircea_popescu: so eskimo bobbie, theoretical problem : you need 12 k for your wonder project which is 100% guaranteed to succeed. There's three investors that would give you money : a greek, a gypsy and a pornographer.
mircea_popescu: what do you do ?
EskimoBob: interesting idea
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 1 @ 0.58021 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 1 @ 0.5802 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 4 @ 0.5800209 = 2.3201 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 1 @ 0.580001 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: but look like I am dealing with one asshole, who has split personality problems
pigeons: mircea_popescu's momma so ugly she makes blind kids cry
EskimoBob: is that you mircea_popescu?
Luceo: EskimoBob: If I want to stare at a big number I'll just divide 1 by your IQ
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 3 @ 0.55 = 1.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pigeons that'd be the retractor making them cry :D
Luceo: ;;calc 1 / 0.0000000000000000000235992
gribble: Error: float division
EskimoBob: Luceo: that was deep. Where did you see that before?
Luceo: :(
mircea_popescu: for the record : i did once run a "cuss the other person out" contest on my blog
mircea_popescu: i got like 7-800 comments
EskimoBob: lol.. you are a joker
usagi: Luceo is a businessman
mircea_popescu: nuh-uh http://www.google.com/search?q=injurat+blogari&complete=0
mircea_popescu: even google knows about it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41656 @ 0.00039181 = 16.3212 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: Luceo: is a asshole and a shit bag
Luceo: Hi usagi
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61076 @ 0.0003965 = 24.2166 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: poor but fat shit bag
EskimoBob: at least he acts like one
Luceo: EskimoBob, please learn some useful insults, I'm not in middle school any more
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7531 @ 0.00039181 = 2.9507 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36969 @ 0.00038355 = 14.1795 BTC [-]
Luceo: If EskimoBob was any stupider we'd have to call him by a latin name and water him thrice a day
pigeons: usagi's momma so old she has an authographed bible
EskimoBob: so, go and fuck yourself if you can find your dick :)
usagi: Soon.
usagi: Not now... but soon.
Luceo: I guess anatomy isn't your strong subject either.
usagi: This world will change
mircea_popescu: this convo is very funny mostly cause it consists of people trying to cuss each other interspersed with my stock trading
Luceo: usagi: Bitcoin is the change the world needs!
mircea_popescu: i kinda feel like i own the world.
EskimoBob: what ever Luceo, can you shut up for now?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 1.0395 = 3.1185 BTC [+]
Luceo: EskimoBob: Just for now? Want me to give you long enough to come up with a retort that isn't as impotent as you are?
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.1575, Best ask: 9.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.04250, Last trade: 9.20498, 24 hour volume: 137925, 24 hour low: 8.831, 24 hour high: 12
Luceo: mircea_popescu: I'm doing what I hate most, waiting for other people. :(
mircea_popescu: Luceo by now i'm indifferent to it. online conference calls changed the world.
Luceo: I mean waiting for them to do something, not waiting for them to say something :P
mircea_popescu: now that is suck.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 15 @ 1.0396 = 15.594 BTC [+]
Luceo: Someone should open an exchange with reasonable fees :/
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 25000 @ 0.001008 = 25.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 110 @ 0.105 = 11.55 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Luceo you mean btc/usd ?
Luceo: That or BTC/EUR
mircea_popescu: 1% round trip is a little excessive.
usagi: 1% is cheap
Luceo: It's not, it's essentially forex :S
mircea_popescu: yeah.
usagi: Margins on bullion are almost always over 3% either way
mircea_popescu: bullion ?!
mircea_popescu: how's that a standard
usagi: Bitcoin has storage costs because you need to secure them.
mircea_popescu: not comparable to bullion.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.33 = 0.66 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 4 @ 0.3399 = 1.3596 BTC [+]
Luceo: Most bullion trading is paper only, gold is ridiculously oversold
usagi: People can read your keyboard with an am/fm radio sitting outside your house
Luceo: Don't use a wireless keyboard :P
mircea_popescu: i don't use a wireless anything.
usagi: I am not talking wireless.
mircea_popescu: then you're not talking sense.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
Luceo: I use a PS/2 keyboard
Luceo: There's nothing to read
usagi: *shrug* this is why ppl pay pros for security
usagi: Most people have no idea how to secure a computer system
mircea_popescu: yeah. nevertheless, some do.
mircea_popescu: actually, some might even be in this chatroom.
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 100 @ 0.053 = 5.3 BTC [-]
Luceo: I used to get paid to secure computer systems ^^
usagi: For example?
Luceo: First thing you do is throw out everything wireless & bluetooth
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7172 @ 0.00038355 = 2.7508 BTC [-]
Luceo: Unless it's working on an encrypted signal (and not WEP, that's absolutely pointless)
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 10 @ 0.053 = 0.53 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: smickles mind pointing out to the nitwit http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ycgm8/freeforall_pentesting_on_mpex/ that a. it's not a reward b. the bitdaytrade dood offered nothing at all.
pigeons: smickles mama's so bald you can literally see what's on her mind
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pigeons http://www.shuonline.co.uk/news/march2009/hawkattacks032009ii.jpg
pigeons: :(
mircea_popescu: awww!
Cylta: ouch... =(
kakobrekla: back
mircea_popescu: i guess i win.
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.21999, Best ask: 9.22, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 9.22, 24 hour volume: 137765, 24 hour low: 8.831, 24 hour high: 12
kakobrekla: o.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla when do we have the !ticker for mpex ?
kakobrekla: how about today
mircea_popescu: :D
mircea_popescu: there's no day quite like today.
kakobrekla: indeed
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200N] 3 @ 0.08916293 = 0.2675 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: {"S.MPOE": {"1d": {"avg": "38482.9599125","min": "36299","max": "39650","volsh": "2047646","volsa": "78799478933","cnt": "103"},
mircea_popescu: is it cleaer what they all stand for ?
kakobrekla: whats the url again
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-vwap.php
kakobrekla: ill ping you when i get to it
kakobrekla: if theres any questions
mircea_popescu: works.
EskimoBob: what? http://polimedia.us/dtng/f/ ?
Anduck: wtf
kakobrekla: ladies.
kakobrekla: mmmm.
mircea_popescu: i prefer http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/ personally.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.1027 = 1.5405 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1026 = 0.2052 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.1025 = 4.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.1049 = 1.049 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.9099 = 3.6396 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.91 = 4.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.9298 BTC [+]
Anduck: lol
Anduck: didnt they selll tygrr bond p for 0.7 yesterday
mircea_popescu: .69 even
Anduck: i sold mine yesterday for 0.97
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 18 @ 0.052 = 0.936 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 16 @ 0.053 = 0.848 BTC [+]
Anduck: :P
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 4 @ 0.054 = 0.216 BTC [+]
Anduck: wowow dmc has dropped
Anduck: wasnt it 1 btc at start
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.054 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.054 = 0.27 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Anduck yeah.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 6 @ 0.3899 = 2.3394 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00038366 = 4.2203 BTC [+]
Luceo: DMC was 0.02 the other day
nefario: thats what you get when you print it like paper
mircea_popescu: i still aren't entirely clear on the thing.
mircea_popescu: guy announces 1mn btc mining company, 1mn shares.
mircea_popescu: then sells like 20 k ?
mircea_popescu: and then... somehow... they are counted as all issued ?
mircea_popescu: so the 20k is now divided to 1mn shares, hence 0.02 per share ?
nefario: no
mircea_popescu: and then out of the 20k btc all he has are assets worth ~1k or so ?
nefario: guy announces 1mn shares mega mining corp
nefario: launches
nefario: fails
nefario: scrapes for what he can get
nefario: succeeds in diluting what he gets
mircea_popescu: so he's been diluting ?!
mircea_popescu: o wow.
nefario: profit?
mircea_popescu: is that even allowed ?
nefario: I can't really talk about that
mircea_popescu: outrageous.
nefario: as it's quite complicated
nefario: and
nefario: sensitive
nefario: also
nefario: thats my impression
nefario: I don't have the actual details at hand
mircea_popescu: dilution is like... the cardinal sin i think.
nefario: I must have used the wrong word
usagi: All issued? what?
nefario: I should have used devaluing
nefario: but it's late
nefario: and I'm quite tired and burned out
nefario: so please do forgive
mircea_popescu: no big deal
usagi: There's 20k outsrandnig
mircea_popescu: usagi so if the float is 20k and he got 20k in btc, why is it under so much sell pressure ?
usagi: I don't know what he's told you but I'm the one who has been working with Diablo to arrange most of the trades
usagi: Although recently I am no longer the majority shareholder
mircea_popescu: i said i don't understand it from the get-go, it's what i mean. i m not clear what went down there.
usagi: it's not really sensitive information, it just how the market is valuing mining right now
usagi: he doesn't have 20k in BTC
mircea_popescu: so he sold some of the 20k for 1btc and some for less ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 100 @ 0.10275 = 10.275 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: or what was ipo price ?
usagi: Look at it this way
usagi: How much is an mhash worth
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 95 @ 0.1 = 9.5 BTC [+]
usagi: Is an mhash worth... 0.1 bitcoins? or 0.25? or 0.01?
mircea_popescu: what's mhash to do with anything ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 2 @ 0.3899 = 0.7798 BTC [-]
usagi: income
usagi: He's valuing his assets based on the income they draw compared to other mining assets.
mircea_popescu: so he got 20k btc, bought assets, and their present value took a 95% hosing
mircea_popescu: due to the mhash value moving ?
mircea_popescu: seems dubious, diff didn't move that much
usagi: That isn't what happened
usagi: I'd explain it but I am kind of busy, essentially it's a trade inorder to add mhash per share
usagi: If the market then values it at 0.05 per share, that implies gigamining should also be 0.05 per share
mircea_popescu: well it's not a big deal, mostly my curiosity.
usagi: That pretty much sums up the state of the market right now
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.762 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.761199 = 3.0448 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.76111 = 3.0444 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.761 = 15.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1049 = 0.5245 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 695 @ 0.105 = 72.975 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060N] 1 @ 0.54592957 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15059 @ 0.00038355 = 5.7759 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9041 @ 0.00037892 = 3.4258 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 15 @ 0.1236 = 1.854 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.105 = 5.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2000 @ 0.00092602 = 1.852 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15400 @ 0.00093205 = 14.3536 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: anyone want ASICMINER shares? ^^
nefario: for free?
DeaDTerra: You can get one for free because you are so awesome ;)
nefario: lol
nefario: like free crackers
nefario: and salt in mcdonnalds
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 52 @ 0.985 = 51.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 31 @ 1 = 31 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 7 @ 1 = 7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 1.0396 = 3.1188 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: lol
DiabloD3: DeaDTerra: I want them all, and I cant afooorrdd theeeemmmmmmmmmmmmm
DiabloD3: :<
DeaDTerra: WHAT you have free crackers and salt in your McDonalds :(
DeaDTerra: We don't have anything free here in Sweden xD
Anduck: lol
DiabloD3: you have mcdonalds in sweden?
Anduck: we have free salt
Anduck: ofc they do
DiabloD3: what do they serve, cans of rotten fish?
Anduck: even finland does
Lucidize: free straws
DeaDTerra: except education,hospitals,libararies etc xD
Anduck: that is not much selling but yeah
DeaDTerra: Haha ofc we do everyone has McDonalds
mircea_popescu: do they have mcpickled herring ?
DiabloD3: ha ha I beat mircea_popescu to the joke
mircea_popescu: ya but i did it better :D
DiabloD3: also, I hate google
mircea_popescu: btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3z0zh8kow4
DiabloD3: http://www.googleventures.com/
DiabloD3: this is how a website should look
DiabloD3: although they need to use heavier sans for the text on the image
DiabloD3: 100 is too light
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080T] 2 @ 0.01542078 = 0.0308 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 20 @ 0.1237 = 2.474 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 14 @ 0.1238 = 1.7332 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00037892 = 0.5305 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 8.525, Best ask: 8.53099, Bid-ask spread: 0.00599, Last trade: 8.53099, 24 hour volume: 162175, 24 hour low: 8.5102, 24 hour high: 12
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.931 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9301 = 3.7204 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 15 @ 0.93 = 13.95 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: whoa
mircea_popescu: whole new level.
DeaDTerra: Pirate is selling off to afford to pay back all his lenders is my guess
mircea_popescu: he owes in btc.
Obsi: OBSI.HRPT askwall going up in a few minutes
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 28 @ 1.0396 = 29.1088 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.03989 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1.04 = 2.08 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i don't see why anyone would accept usd prices tomorrow.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 60 @ 0.93 = 55.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.1 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 194661 | Current Difficulty: 2190865.9701029 | Next Difficulty At Block: 195551 | Next Difficulty In: 890 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 17 hours, 57 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2363427.53531723 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.87640903502
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100N] 1 @ 0.25736594 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: certainly if i was owed 1000 btc i wouldn't take 9000 usd for it or w/e
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3389 @ 0.00037892 = 1.2842 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1520 @ 0.00036581 = 0.556 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00036411 = 17.8414 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11811 @ 0.00036299 = 4.2873 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 4 @ 1.8 = 7.2 BTC [+]
teek: anybody know if asicminer converted anything to fiat yet?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.1001 = 1.5015 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.6403 = 1.2806 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 0.90111011 = 1.8022 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 7 @ 0.9011 = 6.3077 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 8 @ 0.6403 = 5.1224 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 0.6404 = 6.404 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120N] 4 @ 0.17573959 = 0.703 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 7.75578, Best ask: 7.8, Bid-ask spread: 0.04422, Last trade: 7.75578, 24 hour volume: 187583, 24 hour low: 7.75578, 24 hour high: 12
EmanuelDeOrtego: Curse pirate
EmanuelDeOrtego: He has no respect
EmanuelDeOrtego: We were enjoying double digits. He couldn't even keep us over $10.
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 7.69999, Best ask: 7.7, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 7.7, 24 hour volume: 190274, 24 hour low: 7.6555, 24 hour high: 12
nefario: he should wlk the plank
nefario: or better et
mircea_popescu: whoa nelly.
nefario: yet
nefario: tied to a rack of miners and made uncomfortably warm for a period of time
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCWEB] 7 @ 0.04 = 0.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090N] 1 @ 0.29448078 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.125 = 0.5 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: I think my theory was correct.
DeaDTerra: I speculated a couple of weeks ago that pirate would dump the price to then buy back all the coins he owed investors, that way he could pay back everyone and still make a really good profit in USD:
DeaDTerra: USD.*
EmanuelDeOrtego: DeaDTerra: I tried explaining that to the Europeans this morning but they pissed on me and called me an idiot.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Like most Europeans do.
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.779 = 1.558 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 431 @ 0.125 = 53.875 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 7.79698, Best ask: 7.79938, Bid-ask spread: 0.00240, Last trade: 7.79938, 24 hour volume: 194069, 24 hour low: 7.58, 24 hour high: 12
kakobrekla: 8.5 for a moment there
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 51 @ 0.1295 = 6.6045 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.67949999 = 1.359 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 8.2124, Best ask: 8.22628, Bid-ask spread: 0.01388, Last trade: 8.2124, 24 hour volume: 193873, 24 hour low: 7.58, 24 hour high: 12
mircea_popescu: popped back ya
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: how much interest does MPEx pay on deposits again?
mircea_popescu: Azelphur it got suspended beginning of current month.
Azelphur: aw.
mircea_popescu: so currently nothing. might come back tho.
Azelphur: hehe
Azelphur: gotta find new home(s) for my BS&T funds :P
EmanuelDeOrtego: Nothing is sacred to Pirate. He would sell his wife if he could buy her back at a lower price.
Azelphur: haha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00038366 = 0.8057 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Azelphur stay tuned, i think i'll have one hell of an announcement.
Azelphur: nice
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 8.00644, Best ask: 8.01, Bid-ask spread: 0.00356, Last trade: 8.01, 24 hour volume: 194487, 24 hour low: 7.58, 24 hour high: 12
usagi: lol 40% drop
usagi: thats insane
EmanuelDeOrtego: usagi: Tell me again how this is not Pirate collecting Bitcoins for his investors.
farfi: as long as he pays back - we dont care
farfi: it will rise from the ashes as before
EmanuelDeOrtego: Well, its a big piss on the confidence of the whole ecosystem. We're going to lose merchants over this.
farfi: what merchants ;)
EmanuelDeOrtego: Well, we are not losing Silk Road.
EmanuelDeOrtego: So, whatever
farfi: Most merchants convert to $ on the spot
farfi: bitpay and such
EmanuelDeOrtego: I hope you guys enjoy your USD and Euros that are going to be worthless paper in a year or so. Lord Rothschild already bought a huge Euro short.
farfi: bitpay might have taken a blow
EmanuelDeOrtego: Bitpay tends to be conservative
EmanuelDeOrtego: I think they might be fine.
farfi: You giving a year?? I thought much less
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's probably less.
EmanuelDeOrtego: It gives me some smug satisfaction thinking about pirate holding mostly USD after this.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I doubt he is a gold bug.
farfi: Maybe till the spring...
EmanuelDeOrtego: I really don't like Gold, I think the world deserves a better store of value especially when Central Bankers own most of it.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I was hoping Bitcoin could be it
EmanuelDeOrtego: but it won't be for a while.
farfi: only problem with bitcoin is sombody could pull the plug
farfi: cant really happen with gold
EmanuelDeOrtego: Well, you can pull the plug on Bitcoin as you can confiscate gold.
EmanuelDeOrtego: When you pull the plug, you have to capture datacenters.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Tear down infrastructure.
EmanuelDeOrtego: To me, that's harder to do than stealing people's gold outright.
farfi: thats why obama will have a big red button
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5142 @ 0.00092454 = 4.754 BTC [-]
farfi: to stop "cyber attack"
EmanuelDeOrtego: farfi, he can overcome the lobbyists of Google and independent ISPs
EmanuelDeOrtego: if*
EmanuelDeOrtego: The government controls Comcast
EmanuelDeOrtego: AT&T
EmanuelDeOrtego: but that's about as far as it goes
farfi: that you know
EmanuelDeOrtego: The Globalists hate the internet and they want it under UN control
EmanuelDeOrtego: Depending if they succeed will tell if Bitcoin succeeds or not.
farfi: sounds right
EskimoBob: this used to be a channel about investing etc. Now it has turned in to a tinfoil ass-hats parade
EmanuelDeOrtego: Global policy affects investments
farfi: we were waiting for you
farfi: and Diablo
EmanuelDeOrtego: and the UN does want to regulate the internet.
farfi: and obama has a big red button
farfi: :)
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am not so sure yet. I think some private telecomm industry has power.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.8 = 4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00038032 = 3.1947 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00036337 = 1.8895 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00036306 = 3.921 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4344 @ 0.00036299 = 1.5768 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00036117 = 4.2979 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00036038 = 4.2164 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12356 @ 0.00035965 = 4.4438 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5143 @ 0.00090228 = 4.6404 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.1 = 0.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 4 @ 0.049 = 0.196 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 457 @ 0.00090228 = 0.4123 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 250 @ 0.1 = 25 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15804 @ 0.00091877 = 14.5202 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080T] 40 @ 0.05258451 = 2.1034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.13 = 0.26 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 16 @ 0.13 = 2.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 5 @ 0.951 = 4.755 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 45 @ 0.95 = 42.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 6 @ 0.7999 = 4.7994 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.9199 = 3.6796 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44198 @ 0.00035965 = 15.8958 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13302 @ 0.0003563 = 4.7395 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.545 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5100001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 4 @ 0.51000001 = 2.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 5 @ 0.9859 = 4.9295 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 16 @ 0.986 = 15.776 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 7.83998, Best ask: 7.83999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 7.83999, 24 hour volume: 203553, 24 hour low: 7.58, 24 hour high: 12
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 2 @ 0.00999999 = 0.02 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am going to laugh when Pirate pays out and the Bitcoins he pays will only be worth a nickel a piece.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.80001 BTC [-]
DiabloD3: that'd be brilliant
Azelphur: haha
BTC-Mining: Well if people keep them and wait...
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: do you really think that he is the only one who has USD or BTC?
EmanuelDeOrtego: The man has over 500,000 Bitcoins. I've seen the wallets.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Of course I don't think he has it all.
EskimoBob: and only one who cares at what BTC is priced at?
DiabloD3: I have seen.... wallets burning.... off the shoulder of orion....
EmanuelDeOrtego: There is only 50k in Bitcoins down to less than a dollar.
EmanuelDeOrtego: The markets dictate the price and the markets can be easily crashed by him.
EskimoBob: have you done the math to be sure it is actually a good idea?
Obsi: ;;bids 1
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve order book data. Try again later.
EmanuelDeOrtego: EskimoBob: I don't doubt it if you sell first before others panic.
EskimoBob: do the math and then doubt or do not
EmanuelDeOrtego: I really wonder what your preferred reality is and how it would benefit you.
EskimoBob: you are just guessing out loud and typing "what ever spit brings up on your tongue" so to say
EskimoBob: just for fun, do the math and find out
EmanuelDeOrtego: 200,000 Bitcoins in volume. Above average on a common day of trading. Bitcoins don't just pop out of the grave one day.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Who could put 100,000 Bitcoins on a exchange at ease?
EskimoBob: guessing again?
nefario: that is a lot of red
EmanuelDeOrtego: There's nothing empirical here, Bob. We can only guess based on our perceived reality. Just because its speculation doesn't mean its false.
EskimoBob: hola nefario. Any news on site update?
EskimoBob: nor is it true EmanuelDeOrtego
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8210 @ 0.00038366 = 3.1498 BTC [+]
nefario: I'm expecting to have a demo version of charts later today (for me to play with)
Obsi: why do GLBSE deposits sometimes take >8 confirms?
nefario: Should speet the fuck up
nefario: speed
EskimoBob: forget the charts man :) we need fast loading pages and responsive API for price data
EmanuelDeOrtego: EskimoBob: The probability of either side can be quantified.
nefario: Obsi: thats secret info
nefario: EskimoBob: it's all part of the same thing, charts and API is being moved off server
nefario: thats whats slowing everything
DiabloD3: Obsi: dividendses.
Obsi: waiting for depositses
EskimoBob: OK, take 500K BTC at price 3 days ago... jst amuse yourself with numbers and then start the guessing game
EskimoBob: nefario: OK ,sounds good
nefario: will also be rid of reserve for BTC
nefario: tomorrow sometime
BTC-Mining: get rid of reserve?
EmanuelDeOrtego: EskimoBob: I never said he would sell all his BTC. His goal is only to acquire the rest of the BTC he needs at a lower price.
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: you see, pointless hyperbole is waste of time
EmanuelDeOrtego: You're not obligated to acknowledge me you know.
EskimoBob: "obligated to acknowledge"?
EmanuelDeOrtego: You're European aren't you?
nefario: EmanuelDeOrtego: you're American aren't you?
nefario: there's 500million europeanas
nefario: and they don't all belong to the same country
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: you are a mexican are you?
nefario: so you'll probably want to be more specific
EmanuelDeOrtego: Well, I am just trying to refer to this culture of his...
EmanuelDeOrtego: This antagonistic culture...
EmanuelDeOrtego: It could be a complex.
EmanuelDeOrtego: It could be fear.
EskimoBob: and do not forget EU membership will not make anyone automatically European
EmanuelDeOrtego: Look I hate the Eurozone as much as anyone.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Anyways, I've lost my motivation to defend my original means and ends.
EskimoBob: dude, all I asked is this: make some simple calculations and find out, will this make financial sense
EmanuelDeOrtego: My whole theory relies on pirate needing profitable BTC to pay off his clients. If that is false, so be it.
EmanuelDeOrtego: If Pirate is willing to take a loss so be it.
EskimoBob: European means nothing. There are countries that are 300 KM wide and have a totally different ideas how shit works
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am glad.
EskimoBob: if you want to compare something to USA, for example, the old Soviet Russia or China will do.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I hope the countries do maintain their own separate identities.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Well, even the US has its own individual state cultures.
EskimoBob: flag waving lunatics who think they are the centre of everything
EmanuelDeOrtego: We are the center of selling our children to the military.
EmanuelDeOrtego: We got nothing to be proud of.
nefario: Can you fly bobby boy?
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: I thing jews in israel are ahead of you on this militari/children shit
EmanuelDeOrtego: Well, the US backs Israel with a lot of money.
EmanuelDeOrtego: There are talks about making Israel a state.
EmanuelDeOrtego: and the religious eat it up.
EskimoBob: LOL you guys are fucked more than EU :)
EmanuelDeOrtego: Yes, indeed, in some ways.
EskimoBob: come to think of it... in what way you are not?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Depends on your views of the second amendment.
EskimoBob: oh really? what has arms to do with it?
EskimoBob: shit, do I know US constitution? ...
EmanuelDeOrtego: If our government gets really bad, we can and probably will take arms against it.
EskimoBob: vomit
nefario: WHY IS THE PRICE DROPPING LIKE A STONE!!!!!
EskimoBob: probably most americans have no idea whats even written there
EmanuelDeOrtego: There's a reason why the government is hesistant to classify most local militias as domestic terrorism in mainstream media.
EmanuelDeOrtego: If they did, they could start a civil war.
EskimoBob: nefario: no idea but this looks really ugly
EskimoBob: nefario: EmanuelDeOrtego thinks its Pirate40
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am 80% sure.
nefario: whats the other 20% for?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Just people panicing over Pirate closing down alone
EskimoBob: one guy, with 500K BTC wants hes holdings to be worth 40% what it was 2 days ago
EmanuelDeOrtego: plus non-dedicated traders
EmanuelDeOrtego: EskimoBob: They aren't his holding
EskimoBob: and all the bots going mad
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2500 @ 0.00093205 = 2.3301 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: They are his investors
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9204 @ 0.00093319 = 8.5891 BTC [+]
nefario: I won't be allowing anything like the pirate passthroughs on GLBSE in the future
EskimoBob: "EmanuelDeOrtego | They are his investors " - I remember some blaa blaa about bullets and dark net ...
nefario: cause too much damage after the fact
EskimoBob: lol
EmanuelDeOrtego: nefario: Thank you.
nefario: not for you
nefario: for GLBSE
nefario: and BTC in general
EskimoBob: yes
nefario: serious price swings are bad
nefario: make it hard to plan
EskimoBob: nobody will ever take it seriously for business
EskimoBob: btc is a way to transfer funds from A - B
nefario: I'm going to be adding options to GLBSE as a beta by the end of the week
nefario: and then finding FIAT partners to have currencies traded
EskimoBob: if you cannot be sure what is the exch rate... no use for it at all
EmanuelDeOrtego: nefario: You're the man.
nefario: I spent an hour yesterday working out how to add futures
nefario: turns out to be pretty easy
nefario: also will get loans as a bonus
nefario: but they'll need a little more work
mircea_popescu: <nefario> I won't be allowing anything like the pirate passthroughs on GLBSE in the future << this is wise.
Obsi: 11 confirms still no deposit in GLBSE
mircea_popescu: shoul;dn't have been allowed in the first place.
nefario: Obsi, the process is run as a batch job
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.1 = 0.9 BTC [+]
Obsi: once per hour?
nefario: every 24h
nefario: and 3 times every hour before and after
nefario: lol
nefario: a couple of times an hour
EskimoBob: nefario: it is also a nice source of additional revenue to support options.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Options will bring stability to the market
EmanuelDeOrtego: It may be a stability of $1 a Bitcoin
nefario: thats what I'm hoping
EmanuelDeOrtego: but still
nefario: more stability and more revenue
nefario: who wait
EmanuelDeOrtego: We're back over 8
EskimoBob: I did try to explain this to mircea_popescu too but he refused to listen and I got tired
nefario: I said futures
nefario: I meant to say optoins
EmanuelDeOrtego: They can be the same in some cases
nefario: kind of but not really
EskimoBob: nefario: you can also do short selling etc
EmanuelDeOrtego: Anyways, my money is stuck in POLY.10.1 until the price goes over 10 gain.
EmanuelDeOrtego: again*
nefario: EskimoBob: thats a sub catagory of lending
nefario: which will be added
EskimoBob: and let people write options - take your cut
EskimoBob: good old puts and calls writing
EmanuelDeOrtego: Meni Rosenfield is just laughing it up right now I bet.
nefario: because?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.88 = 4.4 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: He didn't have to buy my bonds at face value when BTC was at $15
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.095 = 0.285 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0946 = 1.419 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.09400001 = 4.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.094 = 9.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.093 = 0.465 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.092 = 1.196 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.09 = 2.07 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: lol, now they are dumping this like there is no tomorrow
Obsi: That was me so I can pay coupons since deposits don't work apparently
mircea_popescu: obsi : did you click the little "check now" thing ?
Obsi: only about 50 times
EmanuelDeOrtego: EskimoBob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=b5440c4ba3a416b888df055ed8a265b5&topic=101748.msg1113844#msg1113844
mircea_popescu: that sucks.
Obsi: DiabloD3: coupons paid
DiabloD3: Obsi: send shares to Obsi:ABMO?
Obsi: Obsi:OBSI.ABMO
DiabloD3: er right
DiabloD3: now we must pray to the tablet god
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 10 @ 0.0899 = 0.899 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: GLBSE
DiabloD3: IT IS SO SLOW
DiabloD3: WHY IS IT SO SLOW
nefario: to anoy you
nefario: specifically you
DiabloD3: _I KNEW IT_
Doffx: Doing a great job nefario, keep up the good work.
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: interesting read but this keynesian crap has to go out of the window soon (few comments below)
nefario: no the real answer is the servers busy doing something
Doffx: On the annoying DiabloD3 part anyhow.
Doffx: :)
DiabloD3: Obsi: sent
EmanuelDeOrtego: Heh let's see what this is
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42400 @ 0.00036149 = 15.3272 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23539 @ 0.00035667 = 8.3957 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 15 @ 0.99991 = 14.9987 BTC [+]
Obsi: DiabloD3: username to send to?
DiabloD3: Diablo-D3:DMC
EskimoBob: but they get to the same point I was hoping EmanuelDeOrtego will discover after the mat exercise :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.13 = 1.3 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: pole love to forget that if you sell like a mad, every sale will bring in less and less coin
EmanuelDeOrtego: "It won't end just like that. In summer of 2013 the price will rally all the way back up to $7.50 or so and then crash. In 2014 the price will rally all the way back to $3.75 and then crash. 2015 will see a strong rally back to $1.87 followed by a crash and a healthy 2016 rally back to $0.93."
EmanuelDeOrtego: Oh god
EmanuelDeOrtego: My sides
EskimoBob: why not just jump out of the window right now?
nefario: DON'TMINDIFIDO!
EskimoBob: do not forget to scream: yipikayee mother fuckers
Obsi: DiabloD3: sent
DiabloD3: DMC mh/share is now 5.318
EskimoBob: 5.318 Mh/s = 1 Mh/s 2 weeks ago ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.054 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: EskimoBob: yup
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 10 @ 0.0798 = 0.798 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: Mh/s gets devalued too fast to use it as a indication of anything
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 5 @ 0.13 = 0.65 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: EskimoBob: yeah, but I did nothing for that
EskimoBob: it's like Italian lira or Greek dinari? they had before EUR
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3400 @ 0.00092289 = 3.1378 BTC [-]
DiabloD3: 3.5 -> 5 with no money spent
EskimoBob: no, from 1.5 -> 0.9 ... look mom, no hands
EskimoBob: but 5 is not worth shit any more
EskimoBob: this is my point
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180N] 7 @ 0.08336057 = 0.5835 BTC [-]
DiabloD3: after the first, at least 6.2
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.986 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: all fixed Mh/s turds are SHIT! untill difficulty starts to drop like drunken skier
DiabloD3: EskimoBob: okay?
DiabloD3: you do realize I hold none, right?
EskimoBob: yes I do
EskimoBob: I just hope you start converting NAV to something as unstable as Mh/s
EskimoBob: stop
EskimoBob: stop converting :)
DiabloD3: its just math.
DiabloD3: after this three month thing, I should have about 8.5mh/share
EskimoBob: you give wrong impression
EskimoBob: you make it look better than it actually is and this is not good
DiabloD3: and then asicmining, btc-mining, and obsi.abmo kicks in
DiabloD3: EskimoBob: well, right now, no one knows what to value what
EskimoBob: oh look, we are now at Nx5 Mh/s
DiabloD3: btc<->usd is psychotic
EskimoBob: sam time NAV has gone form N to N*0.5
DiabloD3: well thats the thing
DiabloD3: no one has any clue what to value shit atm
DiabloD3: if we're going to go down to $5 again and stay there
EskimoBob: use BTC and this is it
EskimoBob: lets hope not
DiabloD3: 1mh "turds" will be back up to 0.10/mh
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 10 @ 0.9499 = 9.499 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 34 @ 0.95 = 32.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 25 @ 0.95 = 23.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 50 @ 0.96 = 48 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 408 @ 0.998 = 407.184 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 37 @ 0.999 = 36.963 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: until asicmining and the rest of the asic-backed shit starts paying out at asic rates
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 30 @ 1 = 30 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: which wont be until nov at the earliest
EskimoBob: fuck http://bitcoincharts.com is useless
DiabloD3: EskimoBob: the next motion I do may be suspend dividends until NAV reaches 1btc
EskimoBob: i think this is all cosmetics. Better come up with a idea how to make money for the fund
DiabloD3: oh and btw, I've crossed 100 ghash total
DiabloD3: EskimoBob: there isnt one
DiabloD3: this is why I created DMC
DiabloD3: so bitcoin had something to invest in that wasnt mining
mircea_popescu: ...
nefario: really?
mircea_popescu: its called MINING innit ?
DiabloD3: mircea_popescu: yeah, Im actually considering a name change
usagi: nose mining
DiabloD3: mining just isnt important to DMC's overall plan anymore
nefario: I remember it was to create a bitcoin data center...for mining
DiabloD3: nefario: it was never strictly for mining
Anduck: what is it for now?
DiabloD3: at the time I could fill two racks with top of the line hardware and 51% attack the network
DiabloD3: now I dont need to fill one.
usagi: Ultimately you will have to fufil your contract.
DiabloD3: what do I do with the other several dozen racks other than rent them out for $20k/mo
DiabloD3: usagi: yes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00038366 = 11.8167 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: usagi: and its not about the contract
DiabloD3: I want this to happen
DiabloD3: and I eventually get what I want
EmanuelDeOrtego: DiabloD3: That fact you say
EmanuelDeOrtego: that
EmanuelDeOrtego: makes me believe in you