assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 15 @ 0.3351 = 5.0265 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 5 @ 1.15 = 5.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C050T] 77 @ 0.63041457 = 48.5419 BTC [-]
area: To be honest, the way it's bouncing around, even a market-maker bot will be doing pretty okay
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.055 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: DeaDTerra: if you end up with any 1mh bonds you dont want
Diablo-D3: I will not pay much for them, but I will buy them
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.50000001 = 5 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 25720.459 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 283001.05594 USD in total.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.441 = 1.764 BTC [-]
gribble: Best bid: 13.01, Best ask: 13.1, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 13, 24 hour volume: 200654, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 110 @ 0.051 = 5.61 BTC [-]
smickles: icbit futures are going for 12.85
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 9 @ 0.5 = 4.5 BTC [+]
gribble: Best bid: 12.0301, Best ask: 12.76002, Bid-ask spread: 0.72992, Last trade: 12.0301, 24 hour volume: 204861, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
EskimoBob: damn those tygr-p looks good at 50% discount. Chaaang-Noi are you buying them right now?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.59989 = 5.9989 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 18 @ 0.5999 = 10.7982 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: you greedy bottom feeding bastardo
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3300 @ 0.00095503 = 3.1516 BTC [+]
Ignatius-otc: I leave you all to your own devices for 5 minutes and this is what happens...
mircea_popescu: so let's see. bitcointalk is slow, mtgox is slow, glbse is slow.
Doffx: Your doing it wrong then, time to open up those free accounts again.
Ignatius-otc: yes but are there many visitors flooding mpex?
Doffx: Ill be the first to sign up
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc well ya, i think it did half the month's volume today or some shit.
Doffx: I didn’t see it until to late.
Doffx: I went to hawaii that week
Doffx: Well I should give more detail, I was new to bitcoin at that time.
Doffx: So I saw it then was too late.
Doffx: More new to the financial portions my first 3 were all learning how to mine so I didint even pay attention to investments
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has this great advantage, that it's quite a cheap way to learn financials.
Ignatius-otc: I believe the bonds to be worth 1btc still, but I am no expert and it's really up to pirate.
Doffx: It has given me a great bit of new knowledge thats for sure.
Ignatius-otc: If they do get redemmed for full deposit my bot did very well:P
Ignatius-otc: odds wise...well Im no expert there are far more knowledgable people in this room alone...but imo I feel 100% confident I will be able to redeem for 1 btc per bond, as stated in contracts/as long as pirate doesnt default etc. I am not manually buying any more...so maybe the 100% quote is optimism...
mircea_popescu: as i said before, if the guy actually soft lands his btsc whatever i'll be quite impressed.
Doffx: Hes in otc right now talking about it
Doffx: If you didint already know
Doffx: Everyone will be paid back starting with the oldest accounts
Doffx: with the 7% interest
Doffx: thats the important part
Ignatius-otc: yup...if that poor guy manages to unwind all this I feel pretty abd about all the ponzi attacks he withstood
Doffx: the rest has just been a really cool conversation
Ignatius-otc: not that I contributed to that mess...but still
Doffx: I made 120+ coins off it, if I get it back ill be pretty happy.
Doffx: Small time to some I suppose, but its some sweet coin to me.
Ignatius-otc: I was reading a thread one day with numerous pirate ponzi attacks. One fairly respected poster said anyone can see what pirate does by simply reading his posts. Within an hour of skimming pirates posts I felt I knew what he was doing, and it wasnt a ponzi. But again...just my opinion. It gave the impression those who called ponzi never even read the mans posts or checked his history.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2126 @ 0.00038517 = 0.8189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19474 @ 0.00038622 = 7.5212 BTC [+]
Ignatius-otc: It would generally be safe to assume that yes, 7% is far too high of a return weekly.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [-]
Ignatius-otc: There are always outliers. What if you mircea_popescu had an arbitrage opportunity that netted you over 20%, but you needed lots of coins to make it work?
Ignatius-otc: ahh, so when you go buy these massive amounts of coins and that act itself moves the amrket things get even more tricky
Ignatius-otc: unsure but it was already stated you need enough to drastically impact the market if you were to just use an mtgox for the tx
Ignatius-otc: so what is yoour thoughts mircea_popescu, do you think the bonds and deposits will be returned
mircea_popescu: i was one of the premiere proponents of the pirate = scammer theory.
EskimoBob: ":46:53 pirateat40 | Although delayed, no one needs to worry about getting coins back. " - and the PPT stuff started to move up ...
Ignatius-otc: I ahd heard others say that, but I have yet tos ee you really bash any of it.
mircea_popescu: i still think it'll go badly, as in, no repayments. however, i'm very happy to see that there's a definite solution to the problem now, so im kinda curious.
Doffx: he made a bet against it, made me lots of btc! :)
mircea_popescu: certainly if the man does that which i don't deem possible to be done i'll be well impressed.
Ignatius-otc: ahh, so you think the funds are not even there to cover the outstanding debts. interesting. hell of a day regardless gang!
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2752 @ 0.00095503 = 2.6282 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: he may have some older deponents that are really partners from the beginning who will claim they were paid.
MoneyIsDebt: what happens on gox as 500k bitcoin is released into the marketplace again..
Doffx: Some will go to Glbse, abd Mpex
assbot: [MPEX] [O.HASH.P10TH] 150000 @ 0.02741639 = 4112.4585 BTC [-]
Doffx: If he pays out like he says he will mircea_popescu should make some more btc
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Doffx i don't stand to directly lose or gain from the guy.
MoneyIsDebt: A bunch will be sold though. And I'm guessing, as it's gradually sold over the week, pirate can pick them up cheap, and repay his debt at big profit.
jcpham: mircea_popescu i'll make sure to let you know if i fail to be repaid
jcpham: it'll be an honest account i can guarantee you that
jcpham: numbers aren't important
jcpham: more than a car, less than house
mircea_popescu: MoneyIsDebt yes, if he has the usd, sure. course it'd have been way cheaper at 9.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.6 = 6 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it matters in the sense that if you're too big or too small it's debatable. but you seem to be just right.
Ignatius-otc: Has anyone here ahd experience with listing an asset for IPO at glbse far in advance, then that asset not appearing on the designated IPO launch date, and no communications from glbse?
mircea_popescu: MoneyIsDebt well... actually... something a lot like what happened earlier today lol
MoneyIsDebt: Who really knows? He could have been a millionaire in USD already before this started
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.0511 = 0.4088 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.55 = 5.5 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you know, actually, thinking about it... that's a funny thing.
mircea_popescu: in the recent leaks we see he wasn't getting his salary even
mircea_popescu: and in general... the consensus seems to be "it's visible so it's rich" and the reality more like the reverse.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 11 @ 0.98 = 10.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 15 @ 0.91 = 13.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 27 @ 0.9 = 24.3 BTC [-]
gribble: Best bid: 12.9799, Best ask: 12.97991, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.9799, 24 hour volume: 208118, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 10.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Ignatius-otc: Where I live it will take me over 1m usd to live as a middle class citizen for the remainder of my life, because of that I have a potentially unique definition of "rich". I don;t think pirate got rich from this, but I guess its possible.
gribble: There are currently 40952.551 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 452818.692392 USD in total.
mircea_popescu: not to mention even 10 being simultaneously realised seems unlikely.
mircea_popescu: for the first time in history we'll see thousandaire being a big fucken deal.
mircea_popescu: buncha gold digger jewish moms going in high pitch "o alfred ?! alfred's a multithousandaire!!!"
mircea_popescu: hmm. is it not strange that the 17th of july was 200k and today the 17th of august almost the same ?
MoneyIsDebt: I'm surprised we're still at double digits
mircea_popescu: ya it recovered nicely. we didn't get nearl;y as battered as it looked it'll be
Doffx: Well this is just the first part with people that had their btc
Doffx: We still need to see what happens next week
Ignatius-otc: valid point. did anyone have some low mtgox buy roders get filled during the dip?
gribble: Best bid: 12.6001, Best ask: 12.60011, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.6001, 24 hour volume: 209264, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
dub: I would have had a bunch
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 15 @ 0.69 = 10.35 BTC [+]
MoneyIsDebt: I'm certainly buying next week, once ex pirate lenders get their coins and start selling
MoneyIsDebt: 500k released on the market? Of course it'll have some effect
Chaaang-Noi: but keep in mind 7% weekly will no longer hit the markets
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 1000 @ 0.00026 = 0.26 BTC [-]
MoneyIsDebt: but also nobody will buy bitcoin in order to invest in btcst
Ignatius-otc: on the contrary chaang, I expect many a pirate clone to spin up many a ponzi offering astronomical rates:)
mircea_popescu: <Ignatius-otc> on the contrary chaang, I expect many a pirate clone to spin up many a ponzi offering astronomical rates:) <<< THIS
mircea_popescu: it does not mean it can be done again. i hope people grasp this.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.69 = 3.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 36 @ 0.69 = 24.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 5 @ 0.7 = 3.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 5 @ 0.116 = 0.58 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 23 @ 0.11619 = 2.6724 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.1163 = 1.163 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 5 @ 0.1165 = 0.5825 BTC [+]
Ignatius-otc: Hi brendio I saw ya enter. Do you have any idea where your pirate funds sit on the reimbursement list? I assume pirate will do withdrawals oldest accounts first...
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 10000 @ 0.00011716 = 1.1716 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 47 @ 0.118 = 5.546 BTC [+]
brendio: I have no idea. I just got back from Friday night drinks with old work colleagues and am reading the back log, but will need to head to bed soon and will be out for most of tomorrow. I will update in due time as soon as I know more.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 100 @ 1.25 = 125 BTC [+]
smickles: it will create a lot of suckers
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 1 @ 0.002 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.6 = 1.8 BTC [-]
smickles: 'well, pirate wasn't a ponzi, so this other guy offering >5% per week probably isn't either"
Ignatius-otc: but smickles anyone throwing money at something with so little due dilligence is swimming at their own risk?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 110 @ 1.1 = 121 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.56 = 3.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 50 @ 1 = 50 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 7 @ 1 = 7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 49 @ 1 = 49 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 21 @ 1 = 21 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 20 @ 1.024 = 20.48 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: just because pissing on the electric wire worked once doesn't mean it's safe now
Ignatius-otc: read its thread, discusses just this, laying out where yarrs funds actually are
Ignatius-otc: in it usagi is claiming even post pirate changes each is worth 1 btc
MoneyIsDebt: .. so you buy it at 1 and can at most sell it at 1
usagi: i'm the one that just bought 131 at 1
usagi: and will buy another 50 shares in a sec
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.822 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 7 @ 0.821 = 5.747 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 6 @ 0.82 = 4.92 BTC [-]
MoneyIsDebt: Yeah, it wouldn't make sense for anyone but you to buy it
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [+]
rg: so what's your plan now that pirate is gone?
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 50 @ 1.24 = 62 BTC [-]
smickles: it's watching 'saturdaynight fever' 18 time in a row
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: say. did bitlane request a withdrawal from pirate which got no response
Chaaang-Noi: rg im going boating this weekend, bringing two girls
rg: im sure your wife will enjoy that
Chaaang-Noi: 1, she is not here. 2, she understands im a man. i love thai culture.
mircea_popescu: ahaha. .tr "i love thai culture." <marckac> "I fuck ladybois"
rg: because she lets you is a terrible reason to betray your wife
Chaaang-Noi: betray? she knew the deal going into this...
rg: two wrongs dont make a right
usagi: its better than one wrong though
rg: i just dont believe in cheating in any way shape or form
mircea_popescu: rg : i haven't had sex with a single woman yet this year.
Chaaang-Noi: i dont understand, are you guys saying sex is a sin or something? cuz that is not the way it works in thailand, i love budhists...
Chaaang-Noi: hell, im within my right to have one or two minor wives
rg: i think i was pretty clear
MoneyIsDebt: I'm planning a trip to Thailand next month. Lovely place
Chaaang-Noi: let me know when and where, if its just over the boarder i wont be able to meet you.
usagi: buddhism has prohibitions against immoral sexual activity though.
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 14 @ 1 = 14 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 15 @ 1 = 15 BTC [+]
MoneyIsDebt: I'll let you know once the plans are more concrete
usagi: actually in this case it is well defined
Chaaang-Noi: usagi> buddhism has prohibitions against immoral sexual activity though. yes, that is what im doing bad, and its aginst myself, not my wife. i love thailand :) she feels sorry for how weak i am, not that i hurt her by cheating, lol
usagi: Well you clearly don't understand women goat
Chaaang-Noi: i know your a girl and what not but i dont need to understand them to get what i want...
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
usagi: MoneyIsDebt actually I do, as I am a fully enlightened buddhist master, I understand everything.
rg: i need to stay up til at least 10
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 2 @ 0.9 = 1.8 BTC [-]
usagi: Seriously though, Goat, when will you put up a bid wall for your insured bond? how will you ahndle it?
usagi: kiyuuketsuki ohimesama is my formal title.
Chaaang-Noi: ill place a wall once i know how much intersti need to pay out.
usagi: You're paying interest too? complex :/
Chaaang-Noi: if pirate does, i dont see why i would not.
mircea_popescu: I have successfully withdrawn a grand total of 2165 BTC over 4 separate transactions, each of those 4 requests being filled within minutes.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 190 @ 1.18 = 224.2 BTC [+]
rg: i was going to buy a bunch of S.MPOE yesterday
rg: its literally sitting on my bash prompt
rg: now today its up a bunch
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+]
rg: bitvps does awful on glbse
rg: i think theres a reason for that
rg: people on glbse just want to buy shit that produces no profit
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 16 @ 0.6 = 9.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27726 @ 0.00038622 = 10.7083 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00039243 = 3.1002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5964374 @ 0.0003965 = 2364.8743 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 10 @ 0.99999999 = 10 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 35 @ 1.02 = 35.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+]
gribble: Best bid: 12.72, Best ask: 12.85, Bid-ask spread: 0.13000, Last trade: 12.70001, 24 hour volume: 211815, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
rg: they would amade more profit giving that to bivps.
rg: i actually bought back a ton of shares
rg: people seem to want to get rid of BitVPS
rg: with 55.5 BTC div payouts ..
rg: why not, ill take em back
MoneyIsDebt: I guess that's the one advantage of litecoin... people can panic much faster
rg: i want to rebuy JWU's shares
rg: but he spent a fuckload on them
rg: i dont want to rebuy thm at the price he paid for em
rg: glbse price is inflated
rg: that's why it doesnt sell/do anything
rg: the spread is like 002 btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 715 @ 0.00038089 = 0.2723 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5387 @ 0.00037661 = 2.0288 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 50 @ 1.24 = 62 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15830 @ 0.00037653 = 5.9605 BTC [-]
rg: or people just dont awnt it cause the div payouts to glbse are shitty
rg: im just going to start paying out a ton
rg: i already started last payout
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 5 @ 1.18 = 5.9 BTC [+]
MoneyIsDebt: so where are the pirate passthrough investors going to move their money now? and where can I buy some?
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 600 @ 0.001005 = 0.603 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 1500 @ 0.001008 = 1.512 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 3200 @ 0.0010223 = 3.2714 BTC [+]
usagi: buy nyan.a, b or c
smickles: MoneyIsDebt: well, actually s2cm is looking to expand
usagi: Oh, I'd like to pick up 500 shares of that, but it's way overpriced right now
usagi: didn't azelphur buy it all at 1 and then try to sell it at 2?
smickles: usagi: we're prolly going to expand by issuing a proper bond
smickles: Azelphur did buy at 1 and sold > 2 iirc, then bought back in at 2
Azelphur: bought at 1, sold at ~2.5, bought at 2, trying to sell at 2.8
smickles: Azelphur: waht do you think of an s2cm bond that pays a monthly coupon?
smickles: even if you didn't buy it, it would increase your dividends
rg: im surprsied people arent buying that .C mircea
Ignatius-otc: oh,its a good one MoneyIsDebt. where did I put that link...
smickles: it'll prolly be something like 1btc face value, matures in 3 months, pays .015 btc per month
Azelphur: smickles: I'm confused, isn't that what SS already does?
Azelphur: oh cool, but it'd be something we could invest how ever much we wanted into?
smickles: Azelphur: nope, the shares get paid a dividend
smickles: the dividend amount can change
smickles: and there is no buyback time set
Azelphur: I'm confused then, this sounds like exactly what SS already is
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 400 @ 1.24 = 496 BTC [-]
smickles: this would be, you pay 1btc to get a bond, it pays 0.015 each month for 3 months, then pays 1 btc
smickles: actually, you would pay the market rate
Azelphur: sorta like a passthrough, only all the banks
Doffx: Its like ppt, only at 1.5% and matures in 3 months instead of 1 and you get a div each month
smickles: but saying 1 btc maid it easier to explain
smickles: Doffx: sorta, ppt are zero coupon bonds
Azelphur: I'm half asleep and have no idea
Doffx: Id like to see something that you can get your btc in and out quickly
Doffx: Glbse just has no liquidity most of the time
smickles: you should be able to buy and sell it as you wish
Doffx: As long as you could sell at the 1btc and not lose it would be a decent bond
smickles: i dunno where it would list, if at all, tho
smickles: mircea has expressed interest in baking it into the next mpcd
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 185 @ 1.18 = 218.3 BTC [+]
Doffx: I need an account and im too cheap to buy one
MoneyIsDebt: There's less liquidity because you "reserve" your bitcoins when you place a bid
MoneyIsDebt: Remove that limitation, and it's possible to set up buy back bid walls on everything
smickles: Doffx: i'm working on a brokerage service for mpex
Doffx: What will the fee be?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33218 @ 0.00037181 = 12.3508 BTC [-]
Doffx: Same as transacting on glbse Id assume or close?
smickles: Doffx: something like a 0.5% comission on action
Doffx: Will the site offer information on everything listed?
Doffx: I get tired of trying to follow the securities forum
smickles: i'll eventually put a news feed in
smickles: Ignatius-otc: unfortunately, i cant give a good answer, but i can say as soon as i code a minimum viable product
Ignatius-otc: ahh early stages. well yes let us know. I will come beta test:)
Doffx: Needs to be done bu Sunday night smickles
Doffx: I predict lots of action starting monday
smickles: i'll launch after you can safely buy, sell, see your portfolio; but before i get into the css of the webpage
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
smickles: Doffx: if my daughter lets me, I can see that as a possibility
rg: i meant a crazy amount
Doffx: haha let me know then smickles
Doffx: ill have pleanty to move in to it come monday
Doffx: I know ive seen, now that I understand this a lot better.
mircea_popescu: rg well it cant bee too crazy seeing how the entire cdo line is 1.1k. i figured, start small.
mircea_popescu: but based on demand i'ma make a larger one when this dies on november 1st
mircea_popescu: prolly plenty of demand for solid bonds by then anyway.
rg: how about demand for mpex to pay interest again
mircea_popescu: <smickles> i'll launch after you can safely buy, sell, see your portfolio; but before i get into the css of the webpage <<< spoken like a true mpex alumni hahaha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00037181 = 2.1379 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14285 @ 0.00038089 = 5.441 BTC [+]
smickles: lol, yeah, mircea_popescu, but i'll actually get to the css
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1.00000001 BTC [+]
smickles: rg: it'd be more the place of mpex brokerages to pay interest
rg: its mircea's lazyness
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 1.00000001 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 1.00000001 = 3 BTC [+]
rg: i have a ton of litecoins to sell
rg: and i cant sell til 005 or 0045
rg: which isnt going to happen
Azelphur: litecoins have always been homosexual in nature
rg: ive pulled more out of litecoin in the past 3 weeks than i have from bitvps in 4 months
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1.00000001 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 17 @ 1.00000001 = 17 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 30 @ 1.01 = 30.3 BTC [+]
smickles: the project name is the best part
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
smickles: as in 'smickes' and 'MPEx' went at it hard, and all that was left over was the smex
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2800 @ 0.00096097 = 2.6907 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8500 @ 0.00096483 = 8.2011 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9000 @ 0.0009656 = 8.6904 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13100 @ 0.00096696 = 12.6672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8600 @ 0.00097148 = 8.3547 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6878 @ 0.00097148 = 6.6818 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1722 @ 0.00097408 = 1.6774 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 6 @ 0.012 = 0.072 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 30 @ 1.1 = 33 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 14 @ 1 = 14 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 24 @ 1 = 24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.99 = 4.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.0003965 = 8.2472 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.08 = 1.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 35 @ 0.09 = 3.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.09 = 2.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.09 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1000 @ 0.00011716 = 0.1172 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 2 @ 0.961 = 1.922 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 16 @ 1 = 16 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 99 @ 0.936 = 92.664 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 100 @ 0.936 = 93.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00038792 = 4.0732 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 29 @ 0.936 = 27.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 1 = 9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 232 @ 0.936 = 217.152 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.1175 = 1.175 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.936 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 369 @ 1.22 = 450.18 BTC [-]
smickles: hmmm, mircea_popescu i think i have
smickles: how's that for a pre css screenshot
mircea_popescu: srsly, it matters little how it looks. what matters is what it does
smickles: i file this part in the 'how well'
smickles: remember the complaints about how your page is just a long list of jibberish to them?
smickles: as a broker, part of the functionality is to simplify stuff
smickles: notice all the btcusd options are clearly called options
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00038792 = 0.3879 BTC [-]
smickles: click that link and you'll get a table with rows of strikes
smickles: i'm thinking one table for Ts and another for Ns
smickles: simplicity at little to no cost is Goal 1
smickles: i think goal 2 will be either a stoploss feature, or a 'open a position' feature
mircea_popescu: course i'm the absolute worst person to talk about this with. there's prolly most benefit in doing things EXACTLY like i wouldn't do them.
smickles: a position will track p/l, greeks, and have an automagically-close-position button
mircea_popescu: now this is a good ideea, esp if you can somehow cram all that in.
smickles: well, i intend it to look good
smickles: and it ain't going to be bootstrap
smickles: gox may be to, just more modified
smickles: gox looks like html5boilerplate
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 3 @ 0.049 = 0.147 BTC [+]
smickles: plus, i ascribe to the notion that javascript is evil
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.6999 = 1.3998 BTC [+]
smickles: and anything that i would do with javascript can probably be done with css
smickles: except if i want to throw googleanalytics on it :(
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 33 @ 1.22 = 40.26 BTC [-]
smickles: i'm too lazy to track the movements of the users about the site myself
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.1179 = 1.179 BTC [+]
smickles: anyway, i wouldn't consider using GA until i was established and trying to fix 'designe flow' issues
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 1000 @ 0.0010223 = 1.0223 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
smickles: huh, now that i think about it
smickles: if i were tackeling such an issue, it would be easier to do it 'in-house'
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.0010223 = 10.223 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: literally, make a bitcoin finance site and put ga on it ?
smickles: or script them together into averages
mircea_popescu: this is like going to a cancer survivor's survival party
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.0003965 = 9.7539 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 0.9211 = 2.7633 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 0.921 = 1.842 BTC [-]
smickles: various sites (like glbse) use google analytics
Doffx: Ghostery makes it go away
Doffx: the google analytics
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 98 @ 1.22 = 119.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.6301 = 2.5204 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.63 = 3.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 34 @ 0.63 = 21.42 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.611 = 6.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 18 @ 0.61 = 10.98 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.600001 = 4.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.6 = 6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 11 @ 0.58 = 6.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.56789 = 2.8395 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.561 = 3.366 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 18 @ 0.56 = 10.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 84 @ 0.50000001 = 42 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 17 @ 0.5 = 8.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 37 @ 0.5 = 18.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 63 @ 0.5 = 31.5 BTC [-]
smickles: oh yeah, mircea_popescu, about the stupid. I'm open to changing my mind based on a good argument or funny-but-true analogy
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 386 @ 0.00097408 = 0.376 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4600 @ 0.00097857 = 4.5014 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 84 @ 0.00098397 = 0.0827 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 0.921 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 0.9201 = 2.7603 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 0.92 = 2.76 BTC [-]
gribble: Best bid: 11.78, Best ask: 11.78001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.78, 24 hour volume: 223136, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 22 @ 0.92 = 20.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 21 @ 0.9 = 18.9 BTC [-]
gribble: Best bid: 11.96981, Best ask: 11.96982, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.96981, 24 hour volume: 223101, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
gribble: Time since last block: 15 minutes and 34 seconds
smickles: bitfloor still has ~100 over 12
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 1.0239 = 6.1434 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 902 @ 0.00102893 = 0.9281 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9098 @ 0.00102395 = 9.3159 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 1.024 = 5.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.497 = 0.994 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS] 11 @ 1.19 = 13.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 10 @ 1.276 = 12.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 8 @ 1.28 = 10.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 5 @ 1.39 = 6.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 15 @ 1.4 = 21 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: smickles it'd prolly be a good ideea if you put a pic on twitter. that egg looks bad.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.0003965 = 6.9388 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 694 @ 0.00102395 = 0.7106 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11437 @ 0.00102039 = 11.6702 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34453 @ 0.0003965 = 13.6606 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 20 @ 0.8 = 16 BTC [-]
usagi: Good morning everybody :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.779 = 5.453 BTC [-]
copumpkin: OneFixt is keeping me up all night
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00039477 = 4.5793 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.5601 = 2.2404 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.56 = 1.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.522 = 3.132 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 26 @ 0.50000001 = 13 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00039477 = 0.7501 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14389 @ 0.00039338 = 5.6603 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1711 @ 0.00038551 = 0.6596 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.0003965 = 5.2338 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 16 @ 1 = 16 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 3 @ 0.998 = 2.994 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 4 @ 0.9989 = 3.9956 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 30 @ 0.00010612 = 0.0032 BTC [-]
gribble: Best bid: 11.92101, Best ask: 11.92102, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.92101, 24 hour volume: 221499, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
usagi: anything over 10 is good
usagi: if you're long term
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 70 @ 0.00010611 = 0.0074 BTC [-]
kakobreklaa: some even above 13.5 even though i was late
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.0003965 = 15.2256 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 350 @ 0.003801 = 1.3304 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 8 @ 0.14 = 1.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 5 @ 1.1001 = 5.5005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 200 @ 1.1 = 220 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: [05:23:54] <BTC-Mining> selling assets on GLBSE
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 1 @ 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.1049 = 1.6784 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 35 @ 0.105 = 3.675 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 9 @ 0.091 = 0.819 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 81 @ 0.09 = 7.29 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 81 @ 0.1245 = 10.0845 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: rrr... btc has dropped below 10 EUR :(
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5305 @ 0.00099523 = 5.2797 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: If it goes up, I'm worth more. If it crash, it's an opportunity to stockpile more
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39300 @ 0.00038999 = 15.3266 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00038695 = 1.6639 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.399 = 0.798 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.3971 = 2.3826 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00038695 = 0.9287 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00039075 = 0.1954 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00039105 = 1.7988 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44400 @ 0.0003965 = 17.6046 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 9 @ 0.09999999 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 17 @ 0.1 = 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RUGATU] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.7397 = 2.9588 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.7398 = 14.796 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 12 @ 0.75 = 9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.75 = 2.25 BTC [+]
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>]
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>]
dub: why are people selling ppts?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Because Pirate is stopping his operation?
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
dub: and ppt operators are not going to buy them back at 1btc?
EskimoBob: dub: yes they are if money arrives from Pirate40
BTC-Mining: Says he'll return funds in about a week (Full Price). Large price drop on MtGox around the time he made the announcement...
BTC-Mining: As far as I'm concerned, those invested in pirate should complain to MtGox now and not wait a week.
BTC-Mining: Demand it be investigated, just in case.
dub: you think it was pirate cashing out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.0003965 = 10.1901 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 0.9989 = 9.989 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Might well be. No proof, but the whole going felt like a ponzi.
nefario: anyone think we'lll find out what his method was?
BTC-Mining: First the guy gets a lot of ratings on small transactions... then he gets more trust from reputable member with some unkown "high yield venture"... Now after getting so much trust, I hear he opens accounts to public... then right after he close operation, huge sale on MtGox, and he says to wait a week and he'll reimburse...
BTC-Mining: of course there's other possible explanations
Lucidize: nefario I sent a support email about hidden bids I cannot remove. Do you have time to help me now?
BTC-Mining: But I'd make a request to MtGox right away and not wait a week just in case.
BTC-Mining: If pirate is honest, he probably won't mind...
BTC-Mining: If he isn't, that's enough time to flee away...
mircea_popescu: <BTC-Mining> If it goes up, I'm worth more. If it crash, it's an opportunity to stockpile more <<< exactly.
mircea_popescu: kakobreklaa actually i have been buying in the 2-4 range.
EskimoBob: can any of you look at the log and send me the conversation around the line: "I managed to get out of OBSI.1MHS with"
kakobreklaa: 09:19.07 ( EskimoBob ) I managed to get out of OBSI.1MHS with a 70+% profit.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45800 @ 0.0003965 = 18.1597 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: kakobreklaa: what about before and after
BTC-Mining: It was mostly an anonymous operation, I don't think he would... I know I wouldn't mind people being cautious in that situation.
EskimoBob: can you paste it to me so it expires fast -+ 20 lines is probably OK ?
EskimoBob: This asshole Obsi is using this to sell his turds. He has it in his signature.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 14 @ 0.05682687 = 0.7956 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 20000 @ 0.001005 = 20.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.0003965 = 11.0624 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 12 @ 0.5499 = 6.5988 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 20 @ 0.55 = 11 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 5 @ 0.58 = 2.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 1 @ 0.639 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 1 @ 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 1 @ 0.738 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3169 @ 0.00100826 = 3.1952 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.385 = 0.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 0.33 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5234 @ 0.00104196 = 5.4536 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.388 = 2.328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6289 @ 0.00038551 = 2.4245 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61200 @ 0.00038286 = 23.431 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.00038098 = 17.7537 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37000 @ 0.00037793 = 13.9834 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8367 @ 0.00037653 = 3.1504 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17004 @ 0.00037596 = 6.3928 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00037244 = 6.108 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43416 @ 0.00037146 = 16.1273 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2143 @ 0.00037144 = 0.796 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39966 @ 0.00037096 = 14.8258 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37700 @ 0.00037073 = 13.9765 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59600 @ 0.00037072 = 22.0949 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 115 @ 0.105 = 12.075 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000000 @ 0.00037 = 370 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.98 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.989 = 4.945 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.99991 = 4.9996 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 80 @ 0.1 = 8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 18 @ 1 = 18 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5923 @ 0.00104196 = 6.1715 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 27 @ 0.9989 = 26.9703 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140N] 2 @ 0.22366233 = 0.4473 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00036815 = 7.8784 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5631 @ 0.00102863 = 5.7922 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4672 @ 0.00036815 = 1.72 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16324 @ 0.00036743 = 5.9979 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3941 @ 0.00101379 = 3.9953 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3265 @ 0.00102563 = 3.3487 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.7001 = 1.4002 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 9 @ 0.7 = 6.3 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: So what do you guys think about that Mt. Gox volatilty bot security?
coingenuity: mainly cuz i dont want competition or cross-interaction with my bot
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.9989 = 1.9978 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.399 = 0.798 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 5 @ 0.58 = 2.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 6 @ 0.58498 = 3.5099 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.58499 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.585 = 1.755 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 14 @ 0.6 = 8.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.64 = 1.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 7 @ 0.649 = 4.543 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 42 @ 0.65 = 27.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.9999 = 5.9994 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 34 @ 1 = 34 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 15 @ 0.65 = 9.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 3 @ 0.5131 = 1.5393 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1005 = 0.201 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1005 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 3 @ 0.513 = 1.539 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 7 @ 0.1011 = 0.7077 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1005 = 0.3015 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500000 @ 0.00037 = 555 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 43 @ 0.00104196 = 0.0448 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8000 @ 0.00105166 = 8.4133 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5790 @ 0.00105958 = 6.135 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4567 @ 0.0010618 = 4.8492 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 1 @ 0.1011 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
gribble: Best bid: 11.6421, Best ask: 11.64211, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.6421, 24 hour volume: 214613, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.533 = 2.132 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 3 @ 0.5139 = 1.5417 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 2 @ 0.514 = 1.028 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.513 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 3 @ 0.5013 = 1.5039 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8833 @ 0.0010618 = 9.3789 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3222 @ 0.00106279 = 3.4243 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9901 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 1 @ 0.1539 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: damn, is there anything worth investing in left in GLBSE?
projectshifter: is it all bitcoin related companies, or are there regular companies on there as well?
Cylta: projectshifter: i did not see anything non-bitcoin-related there
EskimoBob: yeah, a gipsy banker... what else?
projectshifter: lol, i was wondering if a regular business could successfully take investment capital from btc
mircea_popescu: projectshifter maybe. it'd depend how you write your contracts.
EskimoBob: bots are annoying little shits that need no support
EmanuelDeOrtego: You sound like an angry old person from the floor trading days.
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego i'm from the floor trading days. he's from the deep south, i reckon.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: I bet you have never even seen a trading floor
projectshifter: interesting. i feel like i'm missing a piece of how a regular company could take in btc investment capital and what makes it appealing over traditional forms
EskimoBob: projectshifter: sure there is a way and is not that complicated.
projectshifter: i didn't realize investments were really going on with btc until the other day
projectshifter: we're in the process of working on some deals with a couple investors who are wanting to get in, we were debating at looking at some different options, was curious if there were businesses successfully doing it with btc and what the appeal actually was
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43096 @ 0.00037 = 15.9455 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: projectshifter: they have BTC but you need USD?
mircea_popescu: that'd be a few millions, and as far as i know the highest market cap in bitcoin.
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 3 @ 1.1599 = 3.4797 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 50 @ 1.16 = 58 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: mpex is not valued at ... it has stocks and what ever trading at value of ....
projectshifter: EskimoBob, yeah, something where all the purchases/sales would be in USD
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 10 @ 1.17258084 = 11.7258 BTC [+]
projectshifter: which makes me wonder more if it's novelty than practicality
gribble: Best bid: 11.55032, Best ask: 11.55033, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.55032, 24 hour volume: 214385, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 13.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 10954.53 bitcoins offered at or under 13.0 USD, worth 137668.000476 USD in total.
gribble: A market order to buy 9000 bitcoins right now would take 112268.0078 USD and would take the last price up to 12.9890 USD, resulting in an average price of 12.4742 USD/BTC.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 930 @ 0.00010611 = 0.0987 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 15 @ 1.17268084 = 17.5902 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 5 @ 1.17268084 = 5.8634 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 2000 @ 0.00010001 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.6999 = 2.7996 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 1 @ 1.17268084 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 37 @ 0.7 = 25.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 1 @ 1.17268084 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: LOL 2012-08-17 21:33:36] < random BS&T investor > i'm starting to think quitting my day job in favor of btcst wasn't the best decision
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 988 @ 0.0001 = 0.0988 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54300 @ 0.00037 = 20.091 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7661 @ 0.00037 = 2.8346 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.73999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 90 @ 0.105 = 9.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ABM] 6 @ 0.36 = 2.16 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: any educated comments on ASICMINER?
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 700 @ 0.00008011 = 0.0561 BTC [-]
Cylta: when pirate will finish it will possible to start lending money for lower, than 7% per week.
EskimoBob: if those guy pull it off, it will be cool but I have no idea how complicated it actually is do design a ASIC chip for btc mining. Can just 3 guys do it like that?
Cylta: (sorry, wrong channel)
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10000001 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: he has some type of prototype and I guess this gets somehow transformed to a real chip "something" and then they can print like mad.
EskimoBob: I guess it is nothing like real CPU
agath: I'm working on an ASIC project too, it's not easy but not complicated either...
EskimoBob: I did look at the thread but I can show you funky images too and tell: this is a ASIC or what ever :)
agath: investments run from $150 to $1500000 depending on which technology will you use: 130nm down to 45nm
EskimoBob: agath: and GLBSE trading symbol is?
agath: yes smaller is better
EskimoBob: agath: what you think about BFL claims?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 23 @ 0.74 = 17.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 23 @ 0.79 = 18.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.8 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1005 BTC [+]
agath: I am not related to BFL .....
agath: and $150 for 130nm process is true ......
EskimoBob: I thought those are absurdly expensive. Ques what, not at all
mircea_popescu: so agath, i pay you 150 bucks you're going to supply me with an infinite ammount of mysql on a chip, 130nm process
EskimoBob: no, you asked for a CPU wit OS to run db .. or something like that
Anduck: agath: what u think about 5W giving 3,5ghash?
mircea_popescu: he said that 130nm chips cost 150 bucks. just like that.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1005 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: no Anduck these are magical chips of imagination. they work differently from what you'd expect.
EskimoBob: in infinity, everything is possible. Even ponies with rainbows out of their arses
mircea_popescu: for the rest of us, asic runs have significant capital costs associated.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 7 @ 0.1 = 0.7 BTC [-]
Anduck: mircea_popescu: are u sure?
Anduck: designing those chips is the hard part - BUT if u can do it, it'll all go good
mircea_popescu: this reminds me of the kids that are going to start a radio station / a newspaper / etc.
Anduck: asic making is really hard tho
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
agath: sorry I was meaning $150000
mircea_popescu: "o, the talk host is the hard part but if you're talented like i think i am it doesn't matter that it's a de facto monopoly and nobody will run your shitty show"
agath: and $1500K for 45nm
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19258 @ 0.00037 = 7.1255 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00037368 = 3.6247 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: [10:08:23] <mircea_popescu> he said that 130nm chips cost 150 bucks. just like that.
agath: mircea_popescu: I don't intend to sell this, and I also don't search for investors so I don't need to tell you details about it... I just wanted to tell you that it's not so much complicated as it might seem, if you know how to do it.
Anduck: that is the part many dont get
Diablo-D3: because if its a small wafer size, thats quite possible
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.52011052 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.52010106 = 2.0804 BTC [-]
agath: my partner yes, it's part of his job
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 18 @ 0.52010001 = 9.3618 BTC [-]
agath: I already told you I'm not looking for funds
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: did you get the trading logs?
Diablo-D3: Im just saying its not out of the ordinary
agath: BTW diablo already knows a bit about me...
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: even if I do, Im not handing them over
agath: BTW2: prietena mea este romanca
mircea_popescu: look, frankly : there's many problems potentially with a chip design. you have to check for resonances, for all sorts of problems. "a design" anyone can make. one that's valid and has a good rate is expensive. that aside, you have minimum chip runs, and the cost per chip is nothing like the cost per cd or such.
Diablo-D3: agath: that may be possible, but Im going to bed thus Im not getting into character assassination fortress 2
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: so we never know, how you wasted all that investors money and lost 90% of the NAV?
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: well, we know how 90% of the nav was obliterated
Diablo-D3: we went from 0.15 per mh normal down to 0.03
EskimoBob: no idea how you managed to do that
Anduck: Diablo-D3 did u buy asicminer?
Anduck: is agath part of ASICMINER?
Diablo-D3: and hes not part of asicminer afaik
EskimoBob: really? all miningturds lost 90% over night?
agath: I am not part of asicminer, neither bfl
agath: my only (little) known project in the bitcoin world is pyramining
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: 30mh share that might be worth 150 in the future being sold for 0.1
Diablo-D3: agath: why did you want to know the cost of 130nm chips?
Anduck: wasnt 0.1 the ipo price?
agath: I didn't want to know, I know it already, I was just commenting
Diablo-D3: Anduck: but resale is still like 0.105 in some cases
gribble: Best bid: 11.36709, Best ask: 11.3671, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.36709, 24 hour volume: 219648, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
Diablo-D3: but yeah, 130nm @ 150k is possible
mircea_popescu: possible it is, yes, if you're talking just design costs.
Diablo-D3: it depends entirely on what fab, what wafer size, and other various factors
agath: yes I already asked some quotes ..
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: no, already designed and taped out for that fab
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: depends on wafer size, yield quality, and chip size
Diablo-D3: if your design is prone to produce 90% failures, well, you're not going to have very many chips
mircea_popescu: jesus god this is an insane convo. "i can make cars for X usd." "ok, how many". "thart depends on the type of car".
mircea_popescu: this is what im trying to pry out of anyone throwing numbers around
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: btw, you pay per wafer
agath: first run will be a MPW
Diablo-D3: yes, but the minimum is different per fab size and per company
Anduck: agath: is 5W enough to power 3.5 gigahash/s?
Diablo-D3: 130nm, you might be able to swing a single wafer print
mircea_popescu: o, so basically your partner is sticking your design into an unused space
Anduck: i pretty much say it's quite impossible
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: _that_ is called shared silicon
Diablo-D3: thats frequent in extremely tiny runs and educational runs
agath: Anduck: yes it might, my design should require 0.5W / GH @ 65nm (simulation only, it might be different), and I can't say too many details
Diablo-D3: fabs still do it on old node sizes
agath: well it's not MY design
agath: it's from my partners...
agath: and anyway I think that it has no meaning to discuss about this here.
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 4 @ 0.8 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: asicminer didnt up front say what they did
Diablo-D3: I know what they did now, but Im not sure if I can repeat it
EskimoBob: it hurts to look at BTC just sitting there and not earning income :(
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: they havent released it as public information
Diablo-D3: but its a small wafer size combined with a large node size
Diablo-D3: and the fab company offers single wafer runs for their old shit
Diablo-D3: the question now is, wtf is bfl doing
mircea_popescu: i have my doubts about the entire thing strictly because i don't know the peiople and it's china based.
Diablo-D3: its either 65nm end to end asic from altera, or 130nm shared silicon or spammed IP cores
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 3 @ 0.1522255 = 0.4567 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: and my risk appetite is low atm, so. i didn't get into it.
Diablo-D3: however, its enough that I, deadterra, and usagi believe that they're more likely to succeed than bfl
mircea_popescu: if DeaDTerra was doing it himself... yea, i guess, maybe.
Diablo-D3: deadterra doesnt have the knowhow for it
mircea_popescu: with partners... that owens guy was a partner, that bitscalper alfredo dude same
mircea_popescu: the list of busts in btc is mostly partners. shakaru was a "partner".
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: well, its why Im insulating myself with bfl upgrades
smickles: there mircea_popescu, i gave @mostofmany a user pic
Diablo-D3: infact, I basically cant avoid gettting mhash from bfl
Diablo-D3: every major entity on glbse has at least one in their collection
assbot: [GLBSE] [RSM] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-]
agath: pyramining hashing power is BFL-free :-)
Diablo-D3: and everyone is upgrading their shit
mircea_popescu: haha, i was half thinking i'll get one myself. just for the decor.
Diablo-D3: agath: yes, but I cant buy pyramining on glbse
agath: I didn't meant to buy it, it was just a statement!
smickles: is that bitvps one better than the one used @smickles?
mircea_popescu: in the photo on rg's site you look like a real smickles.
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: have I not sufficiently explained the market crashing overnight?
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: the value of mh dropped 5x
gribble: Best bid: 11.18, Best ask: 11.18001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.18, 24 hour volume: 220233, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 i think as long as there's going to be people who bought at 1 and it's 0.05 or /we now you'll be in this position
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: for some odd reason I actually give a shit about your rep. so I thought open book will clear it up for good :)
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: well, the people who are bailing out at the bottom are nuts
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: but how do they know this is the bottom?
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: well, if we're not at the bottom, then someone is about to announce 1gh/share for 0.10.
EskimoBob: "bottom" can be only indicated after the fact
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: hold on, I think I have missed a line or 2 in this conversation.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 10 @ 0.9599 = 9.599 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: where did this super cheap Mh/s popped in
Diablo-D3: when you were afk for a week I think
EskimoBob: did someone build a working ASIC and is mining and selling Mh/s?
EskimoBob: oh that one... but this is still imaginary ASIC
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 4 @ 0.7 = 2.8 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: friedcat answered questions that would be very difficult to answer if he wasnt already in the process
EskimoBob: I take off for a week and shit hits the fan :) damn
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 25 @ 1.17268084 = 29.317 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: so we went from 0.15/mh (except obsi.1mhs at 0.10 which didnt have time to drive everything else down)....
EskimoBob: no I did. not. You have no idea how good it is to fish and kill for food
Diablo-D3: that could be 150mh/share early next year
Anduck: whats the possibility for super well run?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: and theres a specific reason why I was buying obsi.1mhs
assbot: [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.589 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: so I could upgrade them into abmo
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: which I went from 1mh/share to what Im valuing as 7mh/share for free
EskimoBob: interesting indeed but I am not sure this is the correct path any more.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.138 = 0.414 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: so, after obsi.1mhs pays that dividend on the 19th, we go from 3.5mh/dmc to 5mh/dmc
EskimoBob: I do not trust that shit bird Obsi at all
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 20 @ 1 = 20 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: obsi didnt fuck up 1mhs like you think
EskimoBob: but who cares. If he pays, then no problems
Diablo-D3: he sold them at IPO price, he bought them back at IPO price and then reissued at a much lower price
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.138 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8799 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: and hes also buying them back at that new price later
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7917 @ 0.00102785 = 8.1375 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4472 @ 0.00100813 = 4.5084 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 16364 @ 0.00100311 = 16.4149 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 50000 @ 0.001 = 50 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: hes actually giving a shit about investors
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.3997 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 25 @ 1 = 25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 36 @ 1 = 36 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8799 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1 @ 0.0022 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 1 @ 0.00983999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9999 = 3.9996 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 5 @ 0.9 = 4.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 55 @ 0.9 = 49.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 17 @ 1 = 17 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: Im going to bed, but this should put everyone on the same page now
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [+]
gribble: Current Blocks: 194485 | Current Difficulty: 2190865.9701029 | Next Difficulty At Block: 195551 | Next Difficulty In: 1066 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 21 hours, 13 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2358358.10867159 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.64501986221
usagi: I can't believe Nefario let TIMESHAREAFRICA list. They're not a member of VOASA and are not licensed to do what they're doing. It's an obvious scam.
usagi: They are not connected with DINOKENG big5 game reserve either, I looked them up.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
usagi: I posted this in the forums too, and it was confirmed.....
usagi: They're trying to resell timeshare condos in south africa and insinuating that they have land on dinokeng big5 game reserve
usagi: They're not ID verified
usagi: In order to do that you need to be licensed by the south african government, and they're not, I got an email back saying that
usagi: Then there is the idea of why they are raising capital for this in the first place. They said they're renting out
usagi: They are probably using the raised money to pay maintencnace fees
usagi: Black hole alert.....
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00038203 = 8.2136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11377 @ 0.00038293 = 4.3566 BTC [+]
usagi: Nefario if you're reading this, allowing them to list after I posted that thread was a big mistake.
usagi: I sent them an email as well with a list of questions
usagi: They replied back and just said to read their contract online and that all the information was there
usagi: I asked them for their business information, and who the directors were, if they wer elicensed, and if they were members of VOASA
usagi: they just ducked the questions and said:
usagi: Please have a look at the following link:
usagi: *Habitat/birding*.
usagi: "All of the land in the conservancy is privately owned and much is
usagi: Our summary can be found on the GLBSE website.
usagi: we offer Members of VOASA to advertise on our website.
usagi: Thank you for bringing this to my attention
usagi: No business info, no license, no telephone number, confirmed not members of voasa
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 3 @ 1.02 = 3.06 BTC [+]
agath: And they sponsor a business where they kill animals......
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
nefario: it usually means you get to use the cabin or holiday home for an amount of time
nefario: sharing it with others for the same
Anduc: it has landed at bitcoin economy!! bitcoin CANT CRASH!!
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 2075 @ 0.00008011 = 0.1662 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.88 = 4.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.138 = 0.69 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.88 = 4.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
usagi: offshore real estate scams are huge right now in south america
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.52009009 = 1.0402 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: has pirate made any other announcements or comments after the announcement yesterday?
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.5001001 = 1.5003 BTC [-]
area: He answered some questions in otc last night
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.139 = 0.278 BTC [+]
area: usagi: I assume YARR is going to pay out 1BTC to holders at some point?
usagi: First we will try to bid wall it
usagi: If pirate does not pay back the coins that will be a 30 day process
usagi: Otherwise it will be wrapped up by the end of the week
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 39 @ 0.1 = 3.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.093 = 0.186 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: [11:07:55] <mircea_popescu> Diablo-D3 ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.09201 = 0.8281 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you were interested in DMC
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 20 @ 0.0895 = 1.79 BTC [+]
usagi: When they made bit daytrade and zipconf and rebate they raised 10,000 bitcoins
usagi: that was very suprising to me
usagi: I'm working on a competitor to zipconf and associated technologies now, but no one will give me any money
usagi: no one is excited or wants to buy in. bad timing I guess
Doffx: Well after that debacle can you blame them?
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 40 @ 0.139 = 5.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 5 @ 1.02 = 5.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13996 @ 0.00038112 = 5.3342 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 50 @ 0.7 = 35 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.1001 = 1.5015 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.1 = 1.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 25 @ 0.7 = 17.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 4 @ 0.7 = 2.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 8 @ 0.10268598 = 0.8215 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 7 @ 0.14795465 = 1.0357 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.76999 = 3.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15423 @ 0.00038293 = 5.9059 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.1 = 3.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1049 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.10499 = 1.5749 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 48 @ 0.105 = 5.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10573 @ 0.00099074 = 10.4751 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 1.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.77 = 6.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 10 @ 1.1299 = 11.299 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 7 @ 1.13 = 7.91 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 8 @ 0.0968406 = 0.7747 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 2 @ 0.26931859 = 0.5386 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 5 @ 0.5511 = 2.7555 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 4 @ 0.551 = 2.204 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 10 @ 0.55 = 5.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CBGB] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 26 @ 0.77 = 20.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 4 @ 0.7989 = 3.1956 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.799 = 1.598 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00038315 = 4.7127 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <usagi> that was very suprising to me << maybe it was just among a circle of people.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 3 @ 0.9001 = 2.7003 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 24 @ 0.9 = 21.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 5 @ 0.861 = 4.305 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 29 @ 0.85 = 24.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 5 @ 0.811 = 4.055 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 2 @ 0.81 = 1.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 29 @ 0.8 = 23.2 BTC [-]
smickles: mircea_popescu: i think your bot's bids/asks arn't showing up in the json again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45993 @ 0.00038373 = 17.6489 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.6501 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.1005 = 0.402 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1024 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 243 @ 0.10287 = 24.9974 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9407 @ 0.00038373 = 3.6097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14080 @ 0.00038537 = 5.426 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 3 @ 0.988 = 2.964 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.8799 = 1.7598 BTC [-]
smickles: mircea_popescu: it was a while ago, possibly b/c i called on it at just the right second
smickles: remembr how you asked for anythng conceivable to include in the vwap json?
smickles: what about the last price traded?
mircea_popescu: thing is the stats stream and the trades stream are two different streams
smickles: and what do you think of a '24hr change'?
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8799 BTC [-]
smickles: i haven't messed with the trades stream
smickles: well, i would say change since open, but the market doesn't close
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1249 = 0.2498 BTC [+]
smickles: so, if i want the last and the change, i'll start monitoring the trade stream and keep a db
smickles: that'll have to come after MVP
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20 @ 0.00038537 = 0.0077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18308 @ 0.00039058 = 7.1507 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4927 @ 0.00099074 = 4.8814 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10900 @ 0.00098625 = 10.7501 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: GLBSE for fuck sake! MOVE! How slow can this page loading get?
EskimoBob: nefario: please comment out all the charts :) easy thing to do as a temp fix.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 137 @ 0.00098079 = 0.1344 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11247 @ 0.001 = 11.247 BTC [+]
usagi: EskimoBob: I canceled sales of NYAN.B for now, to prevent dillution.
EskimoBob: those are particularly useless on the front page
usagi: It's not fair to people who bought in at 1 that you would be allowed to buy in at 1 now and get a 2% div tomorrow.
usagi: I think you can still buy NYAN, but I should cancel it too
usagi: We don't want people buying in the day before divs and getting 2% interest in 1 day
usagi: Why should we allow investors to buy in on saturday, get an immediate 2% payment, then sell out? doesn't make sense
usagi: Sales have been canceled until we pay divs on monday or tuesday.
usagi: it's solid as a rock
EskimoBob: you guys force me to listen 181.fm front porch bluegrass
usagi: EskimoBob how many shares of NYAN.A do you own?
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: I'll give you small premium?
EskimoBob: I want to buy some I got some zeros money back and now it just sits there
usagi: I'll put up NYAN.A for 1.01 then
EskimoBob: plinn plinn ... I Know Rain ... squeek squeek squueeek
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 40 @ 1.01 = 40.4 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: fuck, I am going to by me self a banjo and probably get shot 2 days after it arrives
usagi: Yeah I'd shoot anyone I heard playing a banjo
usagi: Nicholas Cage is a good actor.
EskimoBob: really cool instrument actually (yes, most music plaid with it is crap) but as a instrument, it interesting
EskimoBob: Nicholas Cage? Di your mama smoke crack? Cage sucks so bad... there is now word for this sound
EskimoBob: omg! I need to rise 100+ BTC to buy a banjo :(
EskimoBob: time to issue a security. Hopefully perpetual and never pays divs.
usagi: If you issue a banjo fund I will send assassins to kill you
usagi: No, he can issue if he wants to
EskimoBob: You see, you can do it for much less. Send me money for a banjo and my neighbours will take care of this for free... or my wife
usagi: I can play the recorder very well.
usagi: I like to figure out show tunes in public.
gribble: Best bid: 11.50401, Best ask: 11.50402, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.50401, 24 hour volume: 209796, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.1737
usagi: www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW70AnXI3iM
mircea_popescu: usagi : you should prolly have set days. if you pay div sun, only put shares at 1 on monday
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.789 = 6.312 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9562 @ 0.00100423 = 9.6024 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5938 @ 0.00100515 = 5.9686 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: usagi: my brother knows how to play it.
usagi: So few people can sing it well, you know
usagi: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXHdDJoLLJ8 this guy has the right idea
usagi: most of the ladies are in the wrong key, and reveal their self-important feelings
usagi: not much of a lawn, is it?
usagi: what kind of plants are those?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38962 @ 0.00039058 = 15.2178 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 2 @ 0.33507056 = 0.6701 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130N] 4 @ 0.22856971 = 0.9143 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.67145743 = 671.4574 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.58773456 = 587.7346 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1000 @ 0.50401169 = 504.0117 BTC [+]
smickles: i should know not to open those links when the windows are open and children are playing outside my house
smickles: bah, i've forgotten what the cnt is in mpex-vwap.php
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.10287 = 0.4115 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: and mebbe you should point your monitor towards a dark and secret corner ? :D
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 2 @ 0.00011715 = 0.0002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37477 @ 0.00038315 = 14.3593 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11608 @ 0.00038112 = 4.424 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2965 @ 0.0003803 = 1.1276 BTC [-]
usagi: Why don't you buy it at 1.02 :p
EskimoBob: it is prohibited by The Law I just made up
usagi: Well this is why I canceled share sales
usagi: People will just buy in on friday and saturday hoping to make 1-2% per day and then sell on monday
usagi: People were selling out NYAN.C at .99 and .98 last week because of that
usagi: It makes my fund look bad.
usagi: The problem is you see that people who are looking for a deal aren't looking to hold the shares long term they just want to flip em
usagi: And that means the market has to burn through those shares before I can sell more
usagi: Why would I give money away like that? Doesn't make sense
EskimoBob: I have no wish to jump in and out.
EskimoBob: usagi: this is why I like zeros :)
EskimoBob: no bull shit penny pinchers every damn tuesday or what ever the div day is
usagi: selling at 1 now is like selling at 0.98
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8799 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 32 @ 0.75 = 24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.7599 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.759999 = 3.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.6001 = 1.2002 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.66 = 2.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.65 = 2.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7616 @ 0.00100076 = 7.6218 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7600 @ 0.0009705 = 7.3758 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 22 @ 0.10287 = 2.2631 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.10288 = 0.9259 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 39 @ 0.611 = 23.829 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.7601 = 2.2803 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 197 @ 0.76 = 149.72 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 83 @ 0.10288 = 8.539 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 10 @ 0.0797 = 0.797 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 324 @ 0.00039058 = 0.1265 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14176 @ 0.00039121 = 5.5458 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 40 @ 0.73999999 = 29.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RSM] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.88 = 8.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 5 @ 1.1001 = 5.5005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 41 @ 0.989 = 40.549 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 17 @ 1.1 = 18.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 19 @ 1 = 19 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PGM] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1003 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 2 @ 0.5006 = 1.0012 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42354 @ 0.0003824 = 16.1962 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.6795 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.6796 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.13899999 = 0.278 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.13899999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1049 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.105 = 0.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10288 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.88 = 4.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 3 @ 0.5006 = 1.5018 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [-]