assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 617 @ 0.00469701 = 2.8981 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: kakobreakla I posted a varient NFL bet with shallow decay, I think it will perform better than the existing one. Please approve. Big funding already sent
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-]
Schadenfreude: I thought something more classic, like Busson or Bolgar
Schadenfreude: Well, he wanted to duel so why not do it semi-properly, at least
kakobrekla: Dammit now i gotta watch it till the end again.
Schadenfreude: Kakobrekla, ever seen The Student from Prague or Der Untertan?
kakobrekla: ill check it out if you think its worthy
Schadenfreude: If you find an english translation for them, they're pretty good
dub: from the 'overheard in goldman sachs elevator' twitter feed - The most and least successful people all share the same trait: thinking they.re never wrong.
dub: EskimoBob: where do you fall?
dub: #1: A chick I banged once and haven't seen since just added me on LinkedIn. #2: She wants you to give her 'the business' again.
Schadenfreude: Most successful people wouldn't be successful if they didn't *accurately* gauge their abbilities
mircea_popescu: I’m 19th century sexy – pale skin and a fat ass, and fortunately, a fatter wallet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 40 @ 0.00457135 = 0.1829 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1185 @ 0.00454328 = 5.3838 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.325 = 3.25 BTC [+]
Namworld: Well, considering the large amount of preorders and that they pulled off making an FPGA... I know making an ASIC is incredibly harder and expensive.
Namworld: But if one is to deliver ASICs, that would be BFL.
Namworld: Although I seriously doubt their specs
Namworld: But they had enough funds to get an ASIC developed.
kakobrekla: i know for 2 more people that have enough funds, without taking preorders in the public
mircea_popescu: Namworld i don't think a couple million is enough funds
kakobrekla: >>the difference is pretty high and so risks of failure - 150nm - $80k, 130nm - $200k, 90nm - $400k, 65nm - $800k - to get sample round. but with 90nm - it is 120 TH/s just in single engineering shot.
kakobrekla: >>physical verification (i.e. I give to physical verification engineer design + test vectors) - is about $30k and 1 month delay - but that dramatically reduces failure chances.
mircea_popescu: yes. here's the thing : i was for a time working with a printing business.
mircea_popescu: every given run cost between 20k and i think at most i ever signed off on a 95k typo bill.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: how much was the printing firms start up costs, and how long have they been in operation?
mircea_popescu: and the great advantage of the printing business is that you don't need to pay the author at all.
mircea_popescu: he's happy with 50 cents per copy and his name on the cover.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it was small, i wasn't there when it started up and it meanwhile folded
kakobrekla: final installation w power w cooling w/o case is extra 2$ per W
mircea_popescu: so now here's the thing : your 500-1mn per wafer run costs are correct,
mircea_popescu: but they're also 10 to 1% of the actual cost of delivering a finished product.
dub: for superior thermal profile
dub: or is it how you attach your clock registers
kakobrekla: registers will be added in the next fail
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu note the hot glue errywhere
dub: I actually dont have a problem with that
dub: those fuckers would have wiggled free eventually
jurov: or a reason to get a cat
dub: we could have got a rabbit to pick glbse stocks for a fund and see if it did better than usagi
kakobrekla: thestringpuller, i was helping fizzisist at the start with fpga, then i was workin with bitfury for a while to get his last batch out and now im also working for ET/TML in a way
jurov: rather a hamster, less space/upkeep
dub: of course we'd run out fo LSD
mircea_popescu: then i got to the table. deprived's fund made 20% in an interval ltc/btc went in his favour 50%
jurov: yea, brace ur. exactly this thing is going to invest into mpex and operate a pt ;)
dub: hard to take srsly, all this detailed info and analysis about enough money to buy mcdonalds
dub: fear not, he has withdrawn half the balance from such and such exchange to secure a badly cooked steak against further loss
pigeons: i made enough money to buy mcdonalds but i pissed it away so fast
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00454329 = 4.5433 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 115 @ 0.00454328 = 0.5225 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 985 @ 0.00453792 = 4.4699 BTC [-]
pigeons: remember kids, "if you don't believe in BFL, then you don't believe in bitcoin."
mircea_popescu: if the troop of "financiers" acting up on glbse had followed the same route
dub: it seems like masturbation more than anything
dub: he could make more money WORKING at mcdonalds
dub: than writing all this forum fluff
jurov: oh he actually announced the passthrough below the last results
jurov: specifically states he needs to "cover 0.09 BTC/month brokerage fee"
jurov: yea that will be tough
dub: might need to go to the tooth fairy for a loan
pigeons: i remember when i found out my parents are the tooth fairy. i still don't know how they afford to buy every kid's teeth and how they sneak into the bedrooms and get back
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.011 = 0.044 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00453792 = 2.9496 BTC [-]
pigeons: "I believe so much in bitcoin that I wear this fucking button each day" --micon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00457753 = 5.9508 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 254 @ 0.00459432 = 1.167 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 165 @ 0.00453792 = 0.7488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 384 @ 0.00452778 = 1.7387 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1763 @ 0.00452146 = 7.9713 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 800 @ 0.15603262 = 124.8261 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 200 @ 0.15603262 = 31.2065 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 720 @ 0.21996239 = 158.3729 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: >>Inaba, According to a couple of your posts in the BFL forums, there was going to be some kind of announcement from BFL, either today or tomorrow which should add some clarity to the current situation. Is this still true?
kakobrekla: >Yep, I've been working on it this afternoon. It's almost done and will be posted soon. I've tried to answer all the questions that have been asked so far and I don't think I've missed anything.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1432 @ 0.00452471 = 6.4794 BTC [+]
TradeFortress: If you want to get the returns of MPOE bonds without actually buying them, PM me
JWU42: "Update should be within the hour. Tomorrow some packaged chips should be shipping back to assembly to test some rigs is my bet."
JWU42: just pasting what I saw in their forums
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 429 @ 0.00459432 = 1.971 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1721 @ 0.0046512 = 8.0047 BTC [+]
jurov: TradeFortress,gonna buy MPBPT ? :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0046512 = 1.8605 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: mircea, you put another 325 down on the BFL shipping?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1268 @ 0.00453512 = 5.7505 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1032 @ 0.00452146 = 4.6661 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00453244 = 9.0649 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 605 @ 0.00452146 = 2.7355 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2 @ 0.00451817 = 0.009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2856 @ 0.00451808 = 12.9036 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: oh, is that people sending in bets directly from the MPEX account?
Bugpowder: How does that work. 1Fx3N is the MPEX deposit address
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.475 BTC [-]
assbot: I cooked, I cleaned, and I sewed, and I have a right to get--
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 844 @ 0.00451808 = 3.8133 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 806 @ 0.00451757 = 3.6412 BTC [-]
assbot: Provide exchange and ticker.
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00451757 / 0.00463652 / 0.00475127 (129250 shares, 599.27 BTC), 7D: 0.004312 / 0.00467992 / 0.0048 (1917772 shares, 8,975.02 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00353248 / 0.0048 (11823034 shares, 41,764.64 BTC)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.15001, Best ask: 14.23299, Bid-ask spread: 0.08298, Last trade: 14.15001, 24 hour volume: 38939.12902034, 24 hour low: 13.94896, 24 hour high: 14.31480, 24 hour vwap: 14.10660
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.27000, Best ask: 14.27018, Bid-ask spread: 0.00018, Last trade: 14.27000, 24 hour volume: 40264.04375136, 24 hour low: 13.94896, 24 hour high: 14.31480, 24 hour vwap: 14.11130
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00456584 = 2.9678 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 94 @ 0.00451757 = 0.4247 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1117 @ 0.00451713 = 5.0456 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1035 @ 0.00451663 = 4.6747 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 286 @ 0.00451516 = 1.2913 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 68 @ 0.00451039 = 0.3067 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1282 @ 0.00451039 = 5.7823 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1665 @ 0.00450947 = 7.5083 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 53 @ 0.00450832 = 0.2389 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: kakobrekla, the closing times for the bets I posted are off. Closing happens at the start of the day not the end of the day, so now all my bets are closing Friday night instead of Sat.
Bugpowder: despite my setting of the closing day to 12-20
kakobrekla: i can change that if it needs to be, no bets yet confirmed on em
Bugpowder: ok... Yeah, originally you said it was end of day, but when I set it up last week, I saw it was start of day. Thats why I shifted the resolution time to the 22nd, to try to catch it at 24:00 of the 19th / 0:00 of the 20th
Bugpowder: i thought I did 2 days before 22nd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1347 @ 0.00450832 = 6.0727 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 953 @ 0.00450698 = 4.2952 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: the unix time stamp is the same on proposal than on bet in the db
kakobrekla: now its possibly something else is wrong
Bugpowder: also my txn's confirmed with the last block
kakobrekla: possibly the bet approve team changed the date
Bugpowder: " When we announced the delay last month, we decided to go back and switch from our QFN package to a flip chip BGA (FCBGA) package. " I knew the chip bonding was going to be a problem. looks like it is
Bugpowder: "Originally, we were at about .8w per GH (Yes, we built 20% into our announcements) and we are estimating that it's possible that a worst case scenario would lead to a bit under 1.2w per GH. "
kakobrekla: tell me now if you want me to do +1 day
Bugpowder: I want it to end on the morning of the game
dub: what is the picture of in that post?
dub: needs login to enlarge
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00456584 = 5.0224 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00464467 = 1.8579 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.0046512 = 1.1163 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.0046593 = 6.2901 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: now we jusss need some coin down on that shizz
Bugpowder: "Week of February 10th We implement the 1/3 shipping plan en mass 1/3 of our assembled units will go to new orders in FIFO 1/3 of our assembled units will go to upgrade orders 1/3 will be randomly selected from both groups"
Bugpowder: Please let this drive more betting on the YES side
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00468357 = 3.2785 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1371 @ 0.0046876 = 6.4267 BTC [+]
pigeons: oh sorry, none of you were in any of those thirds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 838 @ 0.0046876 = 3.9282 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I think bitbet now officially has more bTC outstanding than betsofbitcoin
Namworld: Anyone in here can loan about 100 BTC through BTC-BOND?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00469855 = 0.9397 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13105 @ 0.00063268 = 8.2913 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00064579 = 1.9374 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16495 @ 0.0006458 = 10.6525 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1487 @ 0.00469837 = 6.9865 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 62 @ 0.00469621 = 0.2912 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 392 @ 0.0046593 = 1.8264 BTC [-]
dub: kakobrekla cant get none unless you got buns hun
kakobrekla: >>>1/3 of our assembled units will go to new orders in FIFO 1/3 of our assembled units will go to upgrade orders 1/3 will be randomly selected from both groups"
kakobrekla: how is randomly selecting between 2 1/3 any other than 2x 1/2
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00452109 = 4.5211 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 507 @ 0.00450698 = 2.285 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 406 @ 0.00450698 = 1.8298 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1294 @ 0.00450501 = 5.8295 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 606 @ 0.00450501 = 2.73 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 110 @ 0.00450374 = 0.4954 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 859 @ 0.00450374 = 3.8687 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00450356 = 3.6028 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.004502 = 2.251 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 975 @ 0.00450129 = 4.3888 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 295 @ 0.00452109 = 1.3337 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 816 @ 0.00456769 = 3.7272 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.23001, Best ask: 14.29099, Bid-ask spread: 0.06098, Last trade: 14.28998, 24 hour volume: 40998.52702455, 24 hour low: 13.94896, 24 hour high: 14.31480, 24 hour vwap: 14.11527
gribble: Current Blocks: 216450 | Current Difficulty: 3249549.5844872 | Next Difficulty At Block: 217727 | Next Difficulty In: 1277 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 22 hours, 1 minute, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2910803.38168369 | Estimated Percent Change: -10.4244047981
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1982 @ 0.00456769 = 9.0532 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00468288 = 8.8975 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00469855 = 4.2287 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00470673 = 5.4127 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00470687 = 5.6482 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00472364 = 2.598 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00472602 = 8.9794 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 916 @ 0.0046023 = 4.2157 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062773 = 0.6277 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00062772 = 8.3487 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00471295 = 9.4259 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00471127 = 5.1824 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 10 @ 0.08799123 = 0.8799 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00472601 = 9.452 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00472602 = 23.6301 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00471127 = 8.2447 BTC [-]
TradeFortress: difficulty is set to retarget still in a while, so the diffficulty is higher than it should be
TradeFortress: btw, if you're interested in insuring MPOE bonds and get some nice profit, let me know
gribble: Error: "bc,difchange" is not a valid command.
gribble: Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -10.7363427947 % based on data since last change | -13.141668681 % based on data for last three days
pigeons: what does "insuring MPOE bonds" mean TradeFortress ?
TradeFortress: pigeons: it means that you cover MPOE losses if that happens, in exchange for taking a large cut of the returns
pigeons: of you want someone to go in with you on that, ok
pigeons: I'm doing the CoinBr.MBPT thing
Namworld: Anyone got BTCT.co/Bitfunder/Cryptostock things? I feel like shorting stuff.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00471127 = 1.4134 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1168 @ 0.00468137 = 5.4678 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2465 @ 0.00470045 = 11.5866 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1103 @ 0.00472602 = 5.2128 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1182 @ 0.00475 = 5.6145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.0047146 = 6.8362 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller not really, that's from like luxor cca 2004
mircea_popescu: <Bugpowder> How does that work. 1Fx3N is the MPEX deposit address << what's the problem ? you can put any addy you want in ther withdraw field
mircea_popescu: "Originally, we were at about .8w per GH (Yes, we built 20% into our announcements << that'd be 25% neh ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC [-]
Namworld: Someone felt like lending me some funds
Schadenfreude: Namworld, you can always up it to say... 0.05% or 0.1%/day and perhaps more people will buy <g>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.0047146 = 3.0645 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00472297 = 0.2361 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11139 @ 0.0006368 = 7.0933 BTC [+]
Namworld: I once was at 0.5% weekly, which is not too far to 0.1%... too costly.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00472297 = 4.2507 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 7 @ 0.7894 = 5.5258 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4750 @ 0.00468939 = 22.2746 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 932 @ 0.00468137 = 4.363 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 810 @ 0.00466556 = 3.7791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 743 @ 0.00466053 = 3.4628 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00472297 = 0.2361 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00473096 = 4.4944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00471904 = 4.2471 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00473096 = 1.8924 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064579 = 3.229 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9462 @ 0.0006458 = 6.1106 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6170 @ 0.00065288 = 4.0283 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7202 @ 0.0006529 = 4.7022 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4468 @ 0.00065516 = 2.9273 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2153 @ 0.00065996 = 1.4209 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00065996 = 4.1577 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00065997 = 2.4419 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00065998 = 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00065999 = 4.6199 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00065999 = 5.2799 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4939545 @ 0.00066 = 3260.0997 BTC [+]
azx: what is the source of income for MPOE?
azx: And those options are derivatives of what?
Namworld: so it basically goes long and short on BTC/USD at the same time. With an extra margin.
azx: or what is the underlying stuff
azx: OK, I see. So everyone buying those must be most of the time on the looser side?
Namworld: I suppose. Although they might be hedging.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 150000 @ 0.0018 = 270 BTC [-]
azx: BBET, this is something new
mircea_popescu: but in general the thing with options is most expire worthless.
markedathome: bbet is bitbet.us, which launched a week or two ago
markedathome: nice -->> [08:42:02] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4939545 @ 0.00066 = 3260.0997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065956 / 0.00066 (5075034 shares, 3,347.30 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.0006573 / 0.00066 (11526130 shares, 7,576.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.00063499 / 0.00066 (47141395 shares, 29,934.58 BTC)
azx: better how? Looks like same stuff
mircea_popescu: yes well, superficially everything looks like the same stuff.
azx: so how it's better then? :)
Diablo-D3: doesnt that mean they're like a year behind?
Diablo-D3: I seem to remember a date before that
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's funny... i have so many bets about diff staying low through jan and feb
Diablo-D3: asicminer is going to be getting the boards back soon
mircea_popescu: i could probably live all this spring only by cashing out what i made out of the poor performance of asic manufacturers
Namworld: doesn't it normally show paid dividends?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1194 @ 0.00466053 = 5.5647 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 656 @ 0.00465944 = 3.0566 BTC [-]
Namworld: Well 50 BTC "dividend" on BitVPS
Namworld: It's actually the sale proceeds.
mircea_popescu: S.BVPS paid a total dividend of 50.00000000 BTC to 500`000 outstanding shares. #dividend #bitcoin #btc #stocks
azx: BitVPS is still in business?
Namworld: he can't sell his majority stake, but needed to quit. So he liquidated. Every share has right to part of that.
Namworld: But the contract has a special clause where each previous shareholder keeps 1 share after the transfer.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1344 @ 0.00465944 = 6.2623 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 732 @ 0.00463695 = 3.3942 BTC [-]
Namworld: Well should get published soon, so it will be official. You can review it then.
azx: Namworld: they are still in business?
Namworld: yes... Me, arij and phungus have been managing it for about a month.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1579 @ 0.00463695 = 7.3217 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4150 @ 0.00461007 = 19.1318 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 934 @ 0.0046023 = 4.2985 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 787 @ 0.00459318 = 3.6148 BTC [-]
azx: mircea_popescu: what is your involvement in all this?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2213 @ 0.00459318 = 10.1647 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2 @ 0.00458415 = 0.0092 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 924 @ 0.00457255 = 4.225 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2700 @ 0.00456985 = 12.3386 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1859 @ 0.00456655 = 8.4892 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00463745 = 6.4924 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 10 @ 0.7894 = 7.894 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7894 BTC [+]
jurov: Yes, you are right mpex.co appears to be Offline!
jurov: mircea_popescu, mpex.co is not even DNS resolving ?!
Namworld: Attempt to appease the mighty Internet Gods by uploading a ritual dance to youtube... or by burning some servers in sacrifice.
Namworld: Not going to help one bit, but at least it might be fun. =/
Namworld: Ah well, that's sad. Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to complete my orders.
jurov: ;;ident Schadenfreude
gribble: Nick 'Schadenfreude', with hostmask 'Schadenfreude!~m@178.115.248.26.wireless.dyn.drei.com', is not identified.
jurov: Iirc he connected from similar ip
jurov: and your nick is so fitting atm
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
Schadenfreude: I don't think there's any mechanism in place to prevent me from taking various nicknames : p
pirateat40: and as I can have multiple clients open at once
pirateat40: though routing it through TOR would've made for ultimate trolling
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 12 @ 0.7894 = 9.4728 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 40 @ 0.01 = 0.4 BTC [-]
jurov: .. or by burning some bitches in sacrifice, lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you need to cut the line until the botnet stops requesting a dns request
thestringpuller: either that or have a red phone to your isp to pull a kill switch on the bad requests
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 10 hours, 27 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: working on an actually pretty obnoxiously clever solution
mircea_popescu: i will be building and releasing a huge list of free hosts for mpex
mircea_popescu: the one disadvantage is all the cruft freehosts add to the page, so pympex will need a few cosmetic changes
Ukto: mircea_popescu: setup a vm or something somewhere. amazon.. put it behind cloudflare
Ukto: as a backup location
Ukto: and be done with it
mircea_popescu: i will just make one fucking trillion free host proxies.
kakobrekla: i thought mp was alergic on cloudflare
kakobrekla: Bugpowder, mircea will explain it for ya
Bugpowder: Just trying to understand the process, and what resolved vs. closed me. Resolved not linked to payout?
mircea_popescu: resolved means one of the two sides was selected. payments to winning side are due and being processed
mircea_popescu: because of security procedures in place this processing may take a (short) interval.
Schadenfreude: Neotrix is affiliated with Koddos, which apparently offers DDOS protection too
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.15003, Best ask: 14.22849, Bid-ask spread: 0.07846, Last trade: 14.15003, 24 hour volume: 27519.20464813, 24 hour low: 13.94896, 24 hour high: 14.30000, 24 hour vwap: 14.12675
mircea_popescu: i don't want ddos protection at all. i want basically a tiny vm to run a php mpex proxy
jurov: Luceo does hosting too
Schadenfreude: Try bitcointalk, somebody ought to accept BTC for some hosting
jurov: mircea, you did not restart twitter/assapi yet? and rss/json output scriptslike mktdepth.php hang
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065959 / 0.00066 (5069495 shares, 3,343.84 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065737 / 0.00066 (11476109 shares, 7,544.08 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.000635 / 0.00066 (46830971 shares, 29,737.79 BTC)
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 25 @ 0.7894 = 19.735 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.7895 = 3.158 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.799 = 2.397 BTC [+]
JWU_42: not so sure about that stock
JWU_42: with the whole USD to BTC conversion
JWU_42: of profits to dividends
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.475 = 6.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]
jurov: and now we know mircea's ip addy.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpowder the transactions in question had been sent ~15 hours ago. they failed to propagate for some reason tho. all should be well nao
jurov: things i had no time to do till now
jurov: like actual affiliate credit payouts :/
jurov: some ppl can expect a nice little surprise later today
assbot: Provide exchange and ticker.
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065956 / 0.00066 (5074495 shares, 3,346.98 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065738 / 0.00066 (11455209 shares, 7,530.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.000635 / 0.00066 (46751688 shares, 29,687.66 BTC)
Korbman: gigavps: how fast will you be hashing once gigamining is all set up with ASICs?
gigavps: as fast as humanly possible
gigavps: all of the pieces are in place
jcpham: guess who is on the phone with mastercard
jcpham: guess who had 3 bASIC ordered
Korbman: lol that's not a number ;)
gigavps: Korbman any gigaminer that signs the new contract for Teramining will be able to be privy to all information regarding VPS' strategies
gigavps: because there is a NDA included in the contract
jcpham: i'm sortof scared though
jcpham: because i'm talking to paypal because it's a paypal mastercard
Korbman: Ha, I figured I'd ask anyway
jcpham: paypal asked what it is
jcpham: "experimental cryptographic hardware
jcpham: that's was difficult to dance around
jcpham: never said the word bitcoin on chargeback dispute for btcfpga.com
pigeons: so basic isn't doing striaght up refunds, you have to chargeback?
jcpham: 6 months ago i would have let it play out
jcpham: now i'm not patient enough for fail boats
jcpham: gigavps gets the reference
jcpham: bitcoin is full shinking ship fail boats
mircea_popescu: We're sorry, but that is an invalid password. Valid passwords can contain only numbers, characters, and underscores.
gigavps: i had a site limit me to 16 characters
Korbman: because an AR-15 fires a projectile, whereas a car, knife, or hammer does not
Korbman: hahah I suppose that's true...though I'd say the effective range varies greatly
Schadenfreude: I assume a semi-auto rifle is a lot more useful for self defence than any other object in that img
jcpham: 1 of Spartacus Blown Medium Realistic Glass Dildo, Clear [ASIN: B006U1Z6UW]
jcpham: ------------- Begin message -------------
jcpham: We are sorry to inform you that we no longer have this item in stock, and we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused
jcpham: that was going to be the centerpiece of the whole room
Korbman: just hope it doesn't break...
jcpham: I was going to glue it to my neighbors house
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.48 = 3.36 BTC [+]
jcpham: or possibly put it at the top of a radio tower
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.485 = 12.125 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.485 = 11.155 BTC [+]
jurov: lol thestringpusher
Korbman: I admit I haven't really looked at it that much though
gigavps: can anyone tell me what the blue parts are, there are 16 of them
Schadenfreude: Is it likely for the the BTC price to fall in the next two weeks? Not much, but to about $13
Schadenfreude: I'm sitting on some cash which would best be put to work as BTC, but I'm afraid I'll lose 5-10% on a price drop
Korbman: You could hedge it a bit...buy 1/3 of your bitcoins now, another 1/3 next week, and 1/3 a week after that.
Schadenfreude: Well, buying now would be bad if the price dropped 5-10% again in the next time
mircea_popescu: if btc is going up to infinity, then infinity minus 5% is not materially different
mircea_popescu: if btc is not going up to infinity it's not worth buying in the first place.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.489 = 7.824 BTC [+]
Korbman: that's why you buy both times...buying now at $14.20, then again at $14 would give you an average of $14.10 ...if it goes above that you make a profit
Korbman: it's just trying to figure out when it's going to go up that's the hard part
mircea_popescu: someone who spent 35k to buy 1k btc at 35 and kept them has 1k btc.
Korbman: I suppose it depends if you're looking for short term or long term gains
mircea_popescu: someone who bought 1k btc at .5 and invested it with pirate...
Korbman: ...early has 1k+(1.07^4 weeks)
Schadenfreude: And if somebody invested with pirate and got out in time...
Korbman: sorry, should read "*" not "+"
Korbman: and it's for 4 weeks...I figured a month would be fine
Korbman: 1310btc if you invested early with pirate
Schadenfreude: mp, how many % of your money did you convert to BTC? Curious how confident you are with it
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065962 / 0.00066 (5065195 shares, 3,341.14 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065738 / 0.00066 (11455209 shares, 7,530.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.00063503 / 0.00066 (46620168 shares, 29,605.34 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.48 = 10.08 BTC [-]
topace: and a working ssl cert :p
OgNasty: Thanks for the advice. A logo wasn't a big concern obviously and the ssl cert works fine, it just is private. ;)
topace: assbot isnt announcing mpex trades
OgNasty: Concerns were speed and functionality. :)
gigavps: lol, mircea_popescu is talking about design
gigavps: those who own 1998 looking websites should not cast stones!
OgNasty: gigavps I had a chuckle at that as well.
smickles: jebus fuck, when did bitbet get an over 1kbtc bet going
smickles: mircea_popescu: ya know, i was coding an mpex android client for myself, I couldn't find which font that 'M' is
smickles: i ended up using comic sans, 'cause it looks close
smickles: lets see, what did I actually use...
smickles: quick, someone give me a bunch of btc to pipe into my bot!
mircea_popescu: "Late in 1993 I sold 10 million shares of Cap Cities at $63; at year-end 1994, the price was $85 1/4. (The difference is $222.5 million for those of you who wish to avoid the pain of calculating the damage yourself.) When we purchased the stock at $17.25 in 1986, I told you that I had previously sold our Cap Cities holdings at $4.30 per share during 1978-80, and added that I was at a loss to explain my earlier behavior
smickles: "One bot, for instance, asked no less than 720 times for the same order to be cancelled, because it wasn’t getting the one response it was expecting." um...
smickles: would that happen to be order 5228684
smickles: I told you that I had some 'optimization' to do
jurov: particularly, inserting sleep statements.
smickles: it's just something like half a second currently
jurov: lol...examining the situation every 10-20s is good enough
jurov: i tell you, at least some of these ninjas who issued orders mid-BBET-IPO actually did it via coinbr
jurov: and even for that it wasn;t necessary to hit it every half second
mircea_popescu: actually i think next ipo in that style will be +3 seconds rather than +!
mircea_popescu: When Richard Branson, the wealthy owner of Virgin Atlantic
mircea_popescu: Airways, was asked how to become a millionaire, he had a quick
mircea_popescu: answer: "There's really nothing to it. Start as a billionaire and then
smickles: "Well, I'll tell you one thing. Having a kid ended my addiction to being a recreational asswipe and made me seriously consider stopping that professionally."
kakobrekla: that bfl core pic is not for flip-chip design but for wirebond
smickles: EskimoBob: actually, I just made it up
smickles: I thought it sounded better as an unattributed quote
smickles: clearly, i'm a literary genious because it brought an excellent image to your mind
jcpham: anything new and awesome happening on the bitcointalk forums?
jcpham: i'm so out of touch...
smickles: EskimoBob: well, i meant from an artistic point of view
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.25004, Best ask: 14.29000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03996, Last trade: 14.25004, 24 hour volume: 22752.84667883, 24 hour low: 14.06541, 24 hour high: 14.34600, 24 hour vwap: 14.22608
jcpham: i hope someone took pictures/sideway video
jcpham: nothink like portrait-video
mircea_popescu: i like portrait video. it's like .. it gives the art depth man
jcpham: my keyboarding is fail
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [-]
smickles: jurov: "Does it mean that, for example pyMPEx will come bundled with fall back list of proxies to send requests to in case of mpex.co is unreachable?" I could do that if you wanted
smickles: i was also thinking of adding the option to specify a keyring to use
jurov: i know, i want to finish at least something of this i have here first
jurov: just realized that i added file logging of every command and decrypted output for future reference..
jurov: very useful, but never pushed that, shame on me
smickles: heh, same here, but i've done it in another module
Dishwasha: This may sound like a naive question, but how would a person go about becoming a bitcoin exchange? Particularly to only process bitcoin transfers?
Dishwasha: Is the idea to create a network with 6+ other exchanges and submit transaction to them and once at least 6 are confirmed the transaction is complete?
Namworld: only process bitcoin transfers? Everyone can already transfer bitcoins =/
Namworld: No, bitcoins don't work like that.
Dishwasha: Namworld: But the idea would be that I want my service to receive the transaction confirmation as quickly as possible.
FabianB: Dishwasha: bitcoin is peer2peer
Dishwasha: Yeah, I get that. But there's no reason why you can't control which peers you communicate with.
Namworld: But which peers you communicate with doesn't change anything.
Namworld: Unless they form a closed network willingly.
Dishwasha: But it can change how quickly a transaction takes to process.
Dishwasha: Namworld: Yes, you can pay for better bandwidth, etc.
Namworld: But then they're excluded from the bitcoin system.