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Namworld: eh
Bugpowdr: small balls
Namworld: You said yesterday you were waiting for your spreadsheet to update?
Namworld: You got an auto-updating one?
Bugpowdr: yah
Bugpowdr: not the holdings
Bugpowdr: the asset values
Bugpowdr: =ImportHtml("mpex.co","table",2)
Bugpowdr: then read off that page
Bugpowdr: for example
Namworld: yeah, I've released my tools on the forum
Namworld: You could even get the spreadsheet to show your options excersising price.
Namworld: If not done already
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064543 = 2.7889 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9041 @ 0.00064537 = 5.8348 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00064508 = 6.096 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7288 @ 0.00064447 = 4.6969 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: what was MPOE dividend per share most recently?
Namworld: 0.00002 I think, or near that. Almost as much as SDICE
ThickAsThieves: I couldnt quite figure it out from the prospectus
ThickAsThieves: so there are 100mil paying shares?
Bugpowdr: 500mil
Namworld: 500 million?
Namworld: then it's less
Bugpowdr: yes
Bugpowdr: its much less
ThickAsThieves: it shows 2531.17 BTC total dividend last month
Bugpowdr: yesh
Bugpowdr: ;;calc 2531/500000000/.0006
gribble: 0.00843666666667
Bugpowdr: 0.84%
Bugpowdr: Namworld: yes the options value is calculated both at mid market and as exercise in two separate columns
Namworld: cool
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13412 @ 0.00064447 = 8.6436 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6764 @ 0.00064372 = 4.3541 BTC [-]
jurov: sold some CoinBr.iDiff-O for 0.07 -> diff over 7 million at March 20?
jurov: time to improve their hedge on bitbet :D
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-]
jurov: and iDiff-E (Feb 20) has spread 0.032 - 0.049 ...we've got quite a forecast now
jurov: ;;bc,diff
gribble: 3275464.5865656
jurov: ;;bc,diffchange
gribble: Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 2.75124889803 % based on data since last change | 2.47239535291 % based on data for last three days
jurov: Moved iDiff-E (Feb 20) lowest ask to 0.039 - only 100 available!
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 33 @ 0.0098 = 0.3234 BTC [-]
Bowjob: yawb
Bowjob: hows the bear slaughter going on
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 68 @ 0.0099 = 0.6732 BTC [+]
jurov: Yes, this is dog: http://imgur.com/a/pL5PH
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064374 = 5.9868 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1530 @ 0.00064373 = 0.9849 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7036 @ 0.00064372 = 4.5292 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1119 @ 0.00064252 = 0.719 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8565 @ 0.00064218 = 5.5003 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [-]
Namworld: 5 bonus coupons for BTC-BOND
Namworld: incoming
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6235 @ 0.00064218 = 4.004 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23617 @ 0.00064182 = 15.1579 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.0006392 = 9.9396 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18067 @ 0.00063881 = 11.5414 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7993 @ 0.00063719 = 5.0931 BTC [-]
Bowjob: Ooh. looks like Litecoin made a nice recovery too
Bowjob: O_O
Namworld: did it?
galambo: there is a reward to troll somethingawful . com?? :)
Bowjob: well the usd value at least
Bowjob: 8 cents /ltc
Bowjob: from 5.4 ltc a month ago
Namworld: ah, yeah
galambo: does mircea_popescu have his own irc channel :)
mircea_popescu: galambo drop this in -otc
mircea_popescu: ;;view 13393
gribble: #13393 Sat Feb 9 02:16:26 2013 mircea_popescu BUY 1.0 SA gift cert @ 0.5 BTC ((You will have to make a 9.95 credit card payment on https://secure.somethingawful.com/products/gift-certificate.php?product_type=register ))
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1457 @ 0.00063719 = 0.9284 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00063684 = 7.1645 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1795 @ 0.00063656 = 1.1426 BTC [-]
galambo: what am i looking at here
galambo: oh ok
Bowjob: then troll SA?
Bowjob: ;p;
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: they seem to hate buttcoins
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5905 @ 0.00063656 = 3.7589 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3893 @ 0.00063438 = 2.4696 BTC [-]
Namworld: They hate everything
Namworld: but their own hate. They're just dislike it, not hate.
Namworld: They must be Kefkas or something
Namworld: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kefka_Palazzo
mircea_popescu: actually i suppose it's just a front.
Ukto: holy crpa.. me night actually hit $30 again
jurov: me night yea
mircea_popescu: lol yup
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60198 @ 0.00063547 = 38.254 BTC [+]
Bowjob: basically we are just taking off.. on the way to the moon!
mircea_popescu: i was thinking, remarkably enough i didnt sell that many options
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.05037102 = 50.371 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 10 @ 0.21662797 = 2.1663 BTC [+]
jurov: gone
jurov: lol http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinInvesting ... anyone dares to add first post?
kakobreklaa: why dont you just put it on 4chan
jurov: yes? did it work with bit4x?
jurov: urlpls
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 218 @ 0.006 = 1.308 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: isuccumbed who the fuck is that ?
jurov: http://satoshitemple.com/index.html "site dedicated to the infinite wisdom of Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto"
jurov: Each day I will channel Satoshi's spirit and I will post his message in this page.
mircea_popescu: people will leech anything.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00064422 = 17.7161 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1542 @ 0.00063956 = 0.9862 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.668 = 8.684 BTC [+]
truffles: why isnt mp sleeping
jurov: truffles lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 3 @ 0.56 = 1.68 BTC [+]
truffles: the subreddits are amazing
truffles: there is like nudes and everything
truffles: are
truffles: english is my 1st langugage...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12812 @ 0.00063956 = 8.194 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8338 @ 0.00063696 = 5.311 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00064522 = 11.2268 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11740 @ 0.00064745 = 7.6011 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i don't sleep because i sustain myself consuming souls.
mircea_popescu: and on a related note, it looks like i'm getting farsi faq for mpex.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 448 @ 0.0061 = 2.7328 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1182 @ 0.0061 = 7.2102 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00063696 = 3.4396 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4962 @ 0.00063696 = 3.1606 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7702 @ 0.00063547 = 4.8944 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2765 @ 0.00063438 = 1.7541 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11771 @ 0.00063325 = 7.454 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 22 @ 0.0099 = 0.2178 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00064745 = 3.9494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11357 @ 0.00063325 = 7.1918 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2093 @ 0.00063195 = 1.3227 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3507 @ 0.00063195 = 2.2162 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063003 = 6.3003 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9993 @ 0.00063002 = 6.2958 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064745 = 7.122 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40007 @ 0.00063002 = 25.2052 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13412 @ 0.00062912 = 8.4378 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13380 @ 0.00062888 = 8.4144 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 244 @ 0.0099 = 2.4156 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7020 @ 0.00062888 = 4.4147 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00062663 = 4.2298 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26430 @ 0.00062071 = 16.4054 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 490 @ 0.00061978 = 0.3037 BTC [-]
jurov: just trying new bitcoind 0.8.0rc1
jurov: i like it, after 40mins is almost fully synchronized with locally running bitcoind 0.7
jurov: and rpc calls return immediately even during this heavy activity!
JWU42: :-)
JWU42: jurov: there a thread on getting it working -- can't recall the switches to have it load the old blockchain
Bowjob: dump! dump! dump!
jurov: i just moved the .bitcoin dir and copied only conf and wallet file
Bowjob: dump usd and switch to btc!!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13861 @ 0.00061978 = 8.5908 BTC [-]
jurov: i enjoy it, but would prefer my s.mpoe holdings to not sink so rapidly
wao: :D
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.01 = 0.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 393 @ 0.01 = 3.93 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21299 @ 0.00063037 = 13.4263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00063403 = 23.3323 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00063926 = 9.8766 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00063545 = 2.4465 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2201 @ 0.00063501 = 1.3977 BTC [-]
jurov: sync finished... and it ran with ionice -c 3
jurov: waited for your comment.. wasn;t disappointed
jurov: how many times?
jurov: X X X
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31910 @ 0.00063298 = 20.1984 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19839 @ 0.00063298 = 12.5577 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 461 @ 0.00064237 = 0.2961 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: fuk
Bugpowder: i was gonna buy that
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.0061 = 0.1098 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00062742 = 4.9252 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: hrm, i can't make a buy order on bitfunder
ThickAsThieves: it's not recoginizing my full balance, and i have no open orders
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00062742 = 3.0116 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: what you gonna buy on bitfunder?
jurov: ThickAsThieves, you don't have any reserves?
jurov: click your balance in the upper corner and check reserves
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00062723 = 5.206 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: it says 0 resrved
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17689 @ 0.00064237 = 11.3629 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00064275 = 6.5239 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.00064286 = 3.1886 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2485 @ 0.00064745 = 1.6089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2583 @ 0.00064962 = 1.678 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22133 @ 0.00064996 = 14.3856 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.719 = 32.355 BTC [+]
Bowjob: Whoa, Havelock
DeadWeasel: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.93000, Best ask: 23.94870, Bid-ask spread: 0.01870, Last trade: 23.94870, 24 hour volume: 35935.13720042, 24 hour low: 22.58468, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.31661
DeadWeasel: jesus
Bugpowder: nice
Bugpowder: 3000 calls from 17-20
DeadWeasel: expectations at 24?
Bugpowder: :)
Bugpowder: Lets do 30
Bugpowder: I expect it to pull back 1-2 $ briefly than continue up to 27 by opex
DeadWeasel: 17.42K to get to 25!
Bugpowder: o?
Bugpowder: that's up
Bugpowder: actually
DeadWeasel: sounds reasonable
Bugpowder: ;;asks 30
gribble: There are currently 27737.938 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 718342.093212 USD in total.
Bugpowder: ;;asks 25
gribble: There are currently 17384.043 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 429617.169782 USD in total.
DeadWeasel: half a mil to clear 25.
DeadWeasel: whale pump and dumps in action again.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00063413 = 1.7756 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: holy crap look at those sell walls go up
DeadWeasel: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there gone.
DeadWeasel: they're
Bugpowder: huh?
Bugpowder: what did i miss/
DeadWeasel: bitcoinity.org/markets can act a little funny sometimes.
DeadWeasel: nothing.
DeadWeasel: they they do volume on the lower graph, asks.
DeadWeasel: is funny
Bugpowder: oh I see
Bugpowder: someone put up a wall at 25
Bugpowder: thats why its 17k
Bugpowder: probably just for the weekend till his wire cclears
DeadWeasel: bitcoin is great fun.
DeadWeasel: i need whiskey
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063413 = 1.5853 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3354 @ 0.00063741 = 2.1379 BTC [+]
Bowjob: it seems to me
Bowjob: that the idea behind bitcoin is..
Bowjob: pump and dont dump
benkay: i'm waiting for the developing world to figure it out ☟︎
benkay: mkt cap ~ 2 US street corner banks atm
benkay: not to mention the friction in software that keeps normal humans out
benkay: fix those problems
benkay: boom, to several billion.
benkay: but i r idiots as my parents say regularly :(
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00064003 = 0.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4146 @ 0.00064002 = 2.6535 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11988 @ 0.00063575 = 7.6214 BTC [-]
mod6: benkay: it'll be orders of magnitude more imho
benkay: yeah. somewhere, right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1390 @ 0.00063125 = 0.8774 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11860 @ 0.00062759 = 7.4432 BTC [-]
benkay: i have this attitude that beyond more than 5 orders of magnitude it just doesn't make sense to try and be accurate.
benkay: 6B?
benkay: 60B?
benkay: don't care. holdings will be worth something cool at that point, and i won't really be able to tell the difference.
benkay: in the meantime, focus on being a better coder every day.
mod6: well, i figure with say 600-800Tn of derivatives out there divided over say 11mn...
mod6: plus some
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0006276 = 0.6276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3986 @ 0.00062759 = 2.5016 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4303 @ 0.00062205 = 2.6767 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15911 @ 0.00061978 = 9.8613 BTC [-]
benkay: sorry, not tracking. 11 million what?
mod6: well, btc total so far.
benkay: oh, and talking about all derivatives on the market?
mod6: oh i guess 10.761... or something
ThickAsThieves: http://www.satoshidice.com/ not loading?
DeadWeasel: so I gather that all assets stabilize or go up when BTC jump in price? by virtue of .... BTC being worth more?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2785 @ 0.00062414 = 1.7382 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7415 @ 0.00061978 = 4.5957 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: ThickAsThieves: loads fo rme
ThickAsThieves: just hangs for me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6787 @ 0.00063233 = 4.2916 BTC [+]
DeadWeasel: does it start loading?
DeadWeasel: or just blank? no data?
ThickAsThieves: partially loads someitmes, but without any dynamic text
ThickAsThieves: same behavior in two browsers
DeadWeasel: lagging pings
DeadWeasel: maybe since it's in ireland.
DeadWeasel: zero packet loss
DeadWeasel: must be you. on wireless?
DeadWeasel: somebody turned on a microwave next door.
ThickAsThieves: hehe
ThickAsThieves: i am on wireless
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1667 @ 0.00064996 = 1.0835 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00065009 = 8.2236 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: just tried a wired pc, same prob
DeadWeasel: weird.
DeadWeasel: ping -t satoshidice.com
DeadWeasel: see if you have packet loss.
ThickAsThieves: sec
ThickAsThieves: whatsmydns.net shows all Xs for NS entries
mod6: don't you have to put in a ttl with -t>
mod6: ?
Ukto: ThickAsThieves #bitfunder :)
DeadWeasel: if you want it to stop...
DeadWeasel: :)
mod6: heheh
DeadWeasel: ThickAsThieves: hit CTRL + C to stop it and get results
DeadWeasel: forgot to say that.
ThickAsThieves: 0 loss
DeadWeasel: odd
DeadWeasel: that dns thing you mentioned that i just saw seems problematic too.
ThickAsThieves: it finally loaded in one tab, after quite a while
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7483 @ 0.00065031 = 4.8663 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8683 @ 0.00063401 = 5.5051 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: I've never seen the Stochastic RSI level out there before. http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg30ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zi1gStochRSIzi2gRSIzi3gCOscillatorzi4gStochRSIzv
DeadWeasel: always pokes up, levels a bit, then drops again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00062002 = 6.5412 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: any idea what i could buy into that would make 10% overnight?
DeadWeasel: or by wed?
benkay: DeadWeasel: what does Stochastic RSI indicate?
benkay: nvm, i r google
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35500 @ 0.00062002 = 22.0107 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:stochrsi
DeadWeasel: explains in better than i could
DeadWeasel: all i know is I ain't seen it like this before.
DeadWeasel: that there be tha truf.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00062002 = 11.6874 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00062002 = 22.8787 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 192 @ 0.0062 = 1.1904 BTC [+]
Namworld: Still no one selling S.BBET at a decent price?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3498 BTC [+]
DeadWeasel: i don't see bbet on bitfunder. why?
Bugpowder: Define decent
BitHub: what's bbet?
BitHub: same guys that did s.dice?
Bugpowder: No
BitHub: bitbet.us?
Bugpowder: Mp and kakobrekla
Bugpowder: Yes
BitHub: i would buy shares in that but i own bitbet.com.au and bitbet.asia
Bugpowder: Lol
Bugpowder: Namworld, like I am amazed I got out of
BitHub: but maybe i should buy some shares in ts.bbet
Bugpowder: Bbet at an average price of 130000
Bugpowder: 2btc revenue
Bugpowder: Err dividend
DeadWeasel: what exchange is it available at?
Bugpowder: Mpex
Namworld: MPEx
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 24 @ 0.01 = 0.24 BTC [+]
Namworld: and BTCT.co
DeadWeasel: i guess I should say what passthroughs offer it?
Bugpowder: Namworld what do I think is a good price
BitHub: will it be offered on bitfunder?
Namworld: mine on BTCT.co
DeadWeasel: thx namworld
Namworld: I'd pay up to 0.00065000
DeadWeasel: i'll sign up.
Namworld: bugpowder
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0062 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I sold down to 27000
Bugpowder: Or 30000
BitHub: i think bitfunder might offer it
Bugpowder: 27000 I think
Bugpowder: Have fun with that dudes
Namworld: I'm buying them for the passthrough, I don't hold BBET personally
DeadWeasel: That's quite a Contract on the register page, way to cover yer booty!
BitHub: they said yesterday they got some announcements coming soon
Namworld: I just want a few thousands
BitHub: bitfunder is just easy to use
BitHub: confirm bitfunder is going to offer it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11987 @ 0.00062479 = 7.4894 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: I also like BitFunder's site
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062377 = 4.1169 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: I know you were all wondering
BitHub: i was just speaking with them, they are going to offer bbet shares
BitHub: so just wait
Namworld: What's the problem with BTCT.co?
mircea_popescu: BitHub so what's bitbet.com.au do ?
BitHub: enables you to bet on sporting events or social bets etc, at proper betting odds
ThickAsThieves: No problem with BTCTco, I use it too, but aesthetically it's a little busier
BitHub: our first big test is the fifa world cuo
BitHub: cup
BitHub: so we're just preparing for that
ThickAsThieves: http://www.usabilitypost.com/2010/07/23/a-mild-case-of-borderitis/
BitHub: i may offer a bet on the australian election tho as our first test
mircea_popescu: from what i see it's just a register this page ?
BitHub: correct, its not live
BitHub: atm
mircea_popescu: mkay.
Bugpowder: Registration is your first mistake
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has 1000 developers and like 3 promoters
mircea_popescu: it needs exactly the reverse : like 3 devs and 1k+ promoters.
BitHub: i was thinking mircea why don't more bitcoin companies just hire sales team
BitHub: to promote and market bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: does bitcoin foundation do outreach/mktg?
mircea_popescu: well, why exactly are you doing that instead of earning referals on bitbet ?
Bugpowder: Security team would be better idea
mircea_popescu: cause you think you're too good to make money or something, i'd guess.
mircea_popescu: same thing goes for about everyone. just make more services, as if that's where it's at.
BitHub: i had my own idea of doing a gambling site and a few weeks later i see bitbet.us pop up after i already purchased my domains
mircea_popescu: right.
BitHub: i was just about to purchase bitbet.com but the guy pulled out of the auction
mircea_popescu: this is what i'm saying. everyone thinks they should develop.
BitHub: i'm not a developer
BitHub: i hire them
mircea_popescu: well then why aren't you pushing things that are already there ?
BitHub: because i want to push my own things in my own market here
mircea_popescu: im prolly going way too strongly at this, i don't mean you personally.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2019 @ 0.00062377 = 1.2594 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3031 @ 0.00062002 = 1.8793 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: right. that's exactly the problem. there's 1000 people who all think they're cowboys.
mircea_popescu: i guess it'll take some (more) time.
ThickAsThieves: mp, who pays for the marketing and promo of btc?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves in general ? nobody really.
ThickAsThieves: mtgox?
BitHub: i'm paying for my own marketing team
ThickAsThieves: i mean who should
mircea_popescu: i don't think anybody should.
BitHub: but i will be marketing and promoting bitcoin on the side
ThickAsThieves: oh
ThickAsThieves: but you said it needs 1000 to 1
mircea_popescu: yea, that's the other thing, everyone and his team. it's insanity.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves take a mature market, like say porn. or books. or whatever you will.
mircea_popescu: out of 1000 people involved, 999 are pushing something someone else owns.
mircea_popescu: that's the natural order of things.
BitHub: mircea i try and help out in the community and answer as many questions as i can, i give away alot of btc donations n stuff just for fun
BitHub: what more do you want out of me?
mircea_popescu: in bitcoin, 999 people are making new products which don't go anywhere.
mircea_popescu: BitHub srsly, don't take it personally
ThickAsThieves: so a good example would be:
mircea_popescu: i don't mean it about you personally at all.
mircea_popescu: im just whining.
ThickAsThieves: I set up a brokerage for SDICE
BitHub: okey :) i know what you're saying tho because i haven't been able to get any help really
ThickAsThieves: and convince peopel to buy in in meatspace
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves baby, there's already how many of those ? 4 ? 5 ?
BitHub: but i do try and give back
mircea_popescu: why is a 6th needed ?
ThickAsThieves: I mean IRL
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20076 @ 0.00062002 = 12.4475 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you mean irl ? what's that mean ?
ThickAsThieves: like promote buying shares
mircea_popescu: okay...
ThickAsThieves: i dunno
mircea_popescu: what, go door to door ? wth you mean irl ?
ThickAsThieves: hehe phone sales, print ads, maybe convincing rich people
ThickAsThieves: i dunno
mircea_popescu: yeah, are you somewhere where that's even legal ?
ThickAsThieves: what should these 999 peddlers peddle
ThickAsThieves: i'm just trying to think of examples of how btc world might operate like porn or such
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves let's face it, ok ? all these teams are a guy with MAYBE 10k liquid to his name, a freind from school and maybe some chick either of them or both are diddling.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a team. this is a group of young people, enthusiasts, whatever.
mircea_popescu: they aren't going to compete. bitcoin seems new, but seriously. it takes a lot more than three kids.
mircea_popescu: and their 10k.
BitHub: got to start somewhere tho, i think the biggest problem is all the amatuers and scammers
mircea_popescu: the biggest problem is that nobody wants to start small.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1713 @ 0.00062479 = 1.0703 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10176 @ 0.00062692 = 6.3795 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1484 @ 0.00063269 = 0.9389 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: dumbasses make ripple. either of them spent the time to get the experience ? no THEY KNOW
mircea_popescu: THEY CAN
mircea_popescu: TJHEY DO
mircea_popescu: fuckall they do, thing;'s unusable.
mircea_popescu: colored coins, same business.
mircea_popescu: "they have to start somewhere" ? how about they start by working their butt off for something that's already here
mircea_popescu: then they start something.
BitHub: so
BitHub: we should all be working for mtgox and sdice?
mircea_popescu: yes. pick a service you like. i don't care what it is, but a name.
mircea_popescu: push it till you make enough to live off.
mircea_popescu: THEN you're in a position to know why the thing you're trying atm won't take off.
mircea_popescu: and don't get pissed off at me, i'm honestly not that involved either way.
mircea_popescu: but it has to be said.
BitHub: i think that's a good thing about a free market, you do have alot of cowboy's and stuff but i think throught the years alot of those guys get weeded out
mircea_popescu: yes, i agree it's a good thing. do you know who it;s a good thing for ?
mircea_popescu: me.
mircea_popescu: i got fuckall knows how many btc, if you kill yourself trying a project that doesn't have a chance you loose, my btc gains.
mircea_popescu: that's the thing. 1k kids with a dream today, 1k corpses on the metaphorical business field of battle, next year.
mircea_popescu: their metaphorical blood fattening the metaphorical earth.
mircea_popescu: seems senseless to me. but then again, im just an asshole so.
mircea_popescu: go ahead.
BitHub: sooo, ThickAsThieves i'm thinking to send some btc to bitfunder to get it ready
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00063785 = 4.146 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: get what ready?
BitHub: to buy some bbet shares
mircea_popescu: BitHub these other folks think it's maybe oversold by now. they may be right.
mircea_popescu: it pays 1% on referrals, if you get someone to bet 100 btc that's 1btc for you.
ThickAsThieves: I'm not interested in bbet shares atm
BitHub: oh must of been someone else i was talking to
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0003 / 0.00091228 / 0.0015999 (20800 shares, 18.98 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00149797 / 0.002 (473231 shares, 708.89 BTC)
BitHub: still cheap
mircea_popescu: that's like 9k total
Namworld: try BTCT.co, I have a BBET passthrough there already
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2627 @ 0.00063444 = 1.6667 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00063168 = 4.2007 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Namworld what's it called ?
BitHub: also bitfunder will be offering bbet shares soon
mircea_popescu: Final SD Profit: 60813.98753788 BTC
mircea_popescu: fuck me.
mircea_popescu: it's making another 20k this month ?!
BitHub: awww yeeee
Ukto: No thanks, I'm good MP
BitHub: time to pay daddy a lil dividend
mircea_popescu: Ukto you haxxor you, when do i see bf ticker in here already!
Ukto: I have been trying to wrap up the new BF features for a couple days now
Ukto: lots of distractions
mircea_popescu: do you have any idea how inconvenient it is to not check the various stuff going on over there ?
mircea_popescu: looking at dooglus' graphs no wonder the fucking whale bought 1mn sdice today
Ukto: hey, you got your favicon you wanted
Ukto: :P
BitHub: oh, a bf ticker would be so friggen good
mircea_popescu: no but srsl;y, you have to do it already.
Ukto: BitHub: yeah I will be pushing the api for kako to set it up in a few days
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves do you consider stuff like trolling sa bitcoin marketing ?
BitHub: professional trollers for only 2btc a week
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0062 = 6.2 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BitHub it's a tough question he got. what even constitutes btc marketing ?
mircea_popescu: im pushing it in some ways, many other people are too, prolly more than me
ThickAsThieves: i think it does actually help
ThickAsThieves: probly not ideal
ThickAsThieves: but it is attention
BitHub: you can outsource and hire proper marketers
BitHub: very cheaply
vampireb: folks, so S.DICE pays 2000BTC for 10mil or 100mil shares?
mircea_popescu: BitHub yeah, but what'd they do ?
mircea_popescu: vampireb 2k for 10mn last month. by the looks of it 5-10k for the whole 50mn this month
BitHub: in any business mircea when you have a new product or something you hire a sales team or marketing team that goes out as pimps out whatever you want
vampireb: so since 3% were released, so now it will pay for 13% instead of 10%
BitHub: and
mircea_popescu: BitHub i understand that part. the problem here is, bitcoin selling is different from most anything else.
vampireb: ok thanks
ThickAsThieves: whats their angle though?
ThickAsThieves: safer than fiat?
BitHub: i have to tell marketing people how to do their job?
mircea_popescu: vampireb no, they pay for the whole 50mn (which obviously 37% whatever goes right back to erik)
ThickAsThieves: more profitable than wall street?
mircea_popescu: BitHub you have to give them an angle.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4373 @ 0.000631 = 2.7594 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00063785 = 3.0617 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10477 @ 0.00064076 = 6.7132 BTC [+]
BitHub: their angle is, its a new thing called bitcoin, explaining it to people
vampireb: i thought there were 100 mil of shares, not 50 mil?
ThickAsThieves: but why does one want a bitcoin?
vampireb: erik sold only 10%, kept 90%
ThickAsThieves: vamp, correct sorta
mircea_popescu: vampireb yes, 100mn shares, but owner may never sell more than half
vampireb: ic
BitHub: a whole wide range of reasons, do i really need to go in detail?
ThickAsThieves: only if you wanna continue the conversation
ThickAsThieves: idc
vampireb: i am just trying to figure out amount of divident per share
mircea_popescu: BitHub the problem is this : the fixed cost to get someone into btc is huge
mircea_popescu: how are they going to close the loop ?
mircea_popescu: vampireb a 1mn block will likely get about 200 btc at current (20k) estimated profit for the month.
vampireb: ~3.5% / mo that not bad
Chaang-Noi: so i see riple is active, what exactly does it do again? how is it differnet from bitcoin other than using a premined coin?
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142150.0 Chaang-Noi
ThickAsThieves: my wife works in nonprofit sector, i was thinking that nonprofits should uptake bitcoin acceptance for donations
vampireb: goat did you get unbanned or something?
ThickAsThieves: just claim them as anonymous donations
ThickAsThieves: after converting to fiat
vampireb: or theymos supressed your avatar
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves possibly.
BitHub: i was thinking to setup a service to collect donations for celebs and charaties and stuff, but might get in trouble
BitHub: even tho i would give them 100% of the bitcoin
Chaang-Noi: thanks MP
ThickAsThieves: like domestic violence shelters or dog shelters, etc
Chaang-Noi: vamp, i can now send PMs
BitHub: see i think you would hire a marketing team to sell the idea of bitcoin to merchants first
BitHub: i think that's what bitpay is doing atm
mircea_popescu: it is.
thestringpuller: this is the most active I've seen the channel in awhile
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4729 @ 0.00062002 = 2.9321 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: mircea, that link seems to show what is wrong with Ripple, my question is, why did they even bother to make ripple, what can it do that bitcoin cant?
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0062 = 3.1 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi i have not yet been able to glean that.
mircea_popescu: as far as i can tell, it's all some dorks who wanna be developers cause they figure its cool.
mircea_popescu: sorta like kids wanted to be rockstars in 1970
BitHub: haha
BitHub: its made up of some very interesting characters, for sure.
Chaang-Noi: ripple seems like a step backwards :/
vampireb: wth is ripple
mircea_popescu: vampireb some bizzare shit, i haven't gotten it myself.
Chaang-Noi: www.ripple.com
Chaang-Noi: it is like a centralized bitcoin right?
Chaang-Noi: this seems silly... i expected google of facebook to do something like this but these clowns on their own? hmmm
Chaang-Noi: oh JoelKatz is involved with ripple, lol
mircea_popescu: yeah, they've been all over how i hate them cause they r competitors and other nefarious reasons.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6673 @ 0.00064076 = 4.2758 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00064483 = 8.3183 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: fuck knows why people get so wrapped up in that nonsense. anyway.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16677 @ 0.00064505 = 10.7575 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: it seems you can create debt on ripple somehow... i wonder if this will end in tears
mircea_popescu: So, shareholders fund the entire startup costs of the company and end up with 38% 'ownership.' It was exactly this point, what is ASICMiner's % of the company, that was debated in some detail when ASICMiner announced the IPO.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile people ragging on asicminer hardcore.
BitHub: why, what happened with asicminer?
Ukto: hey Chaang-Noi
vampireb: for some reasons ripple was e-numbered lol
vampireb: i tought^^
BitHub: 38% ownership is pretty sad
maximian: I can't understand how Ripple can take off… it requires that you establish establish credit relationships with your friends or associates. I'm too fucking lazy to do that.
BitHub: should be 50/50 at least
mircea_popescu: BitHub well... it was the original offer iirc.
mircea_popescu: maximian part of why im saying i dont get it is in the hopes someone goes "no you fucking idiot, it's like so and SO! see ?"
BitHub: did you buy any asicminer shares?
mircea_popescu: so far no such luck.
mircea_popescu: BitHub i shorted some long ago. i'd short some more but meh.
mircea_popescu: they're not on an exchange, too much hassle.
maximian: right
Ukto: Chaang-Noi: Hed, joelKats, and a few others
mircea_popescu: wait. hed, what hed ?
Ukto: Jed
Ukto: you asshole :P
Chaang-Noi: Hi Ukto
mircea_popescu: aok
mircea_popescu: dude if you said hed hoelkatz i'd have totally gotten it.
mircea_popescu: but no, you gotta be fancy and shit
Ukto: :P
Ukto: WeExchange is the first, and only ripple gateway at the moment
Ukto: I can confidently tell you, quite a bit of currency has already passed into ripple.
mircea_popescu: so can i create ripple debt, sell it to weex cash bitcoins and arrivederci ?
Ukto: Doesnt work that way
mircea_popescu: which way does it work ?
vampireb: since i inherently dont trust anyone, why would i trust a friend of a friend
Ukto: vampireb: you shouldnt
mircea_popescu: vampireb because butt ?
vampireb: i woulnt trust 1k to my gf.. especially her friend
Ukto: thats what I am trying to say
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00062877 = 10.9406 BTC [-]
Ukto: You dont WANT to trust a friend of a friend of a friend
Ukto: in fact
Ukto: you dont want to trust friends
Ukto: unless you are prepaid
BitHub: should i trust bitfloor with all my btc?
vampireb: expecially about money, dont trust friends...
mircea_popescu: vampireb sounds to me like you need a new gf.
Ukto: BitHub: perhaps
mod6: BitHub: all?!
BitHub: haha
mircea_popescu: BitHub no.
Ukto: :P
Ukto: the real idea
Ukto: is that you pick your gateways as issuers
Ukto: and trust THEM
Ukto: for example
Ukto: I might only trust MPEX issued USD
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only exchange i'd trust with btc/fiat atm is the bitcoin-central.net ppl
Ukto: and BitHub may only trust GOX issued USD
vampireb: well.. i got a new one :-) the old one still owes me shit load of money
Ukto: these are non-compatable
mircea_popescu: Ukto how do you verify it's mpex issued ?
Ukto: but vampireb might trust both
BitHub: i was very cautious about using weex and bitfunder at first because i was really unsure about it, but so far its been good experience
Ukto: and have an 'offer' in the network to exchange them for a small fee
mircea_popescu: vampireb have her pay back in blowjobs. let new gf get them
Chaang-Noi: MP you dont trust btc-e ?
vampireb: its almost impossible to collect ious from friends or family
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi these guys specifically because they have the french bank insurance thing.
Ukto: mircea_popescu: your ripple wallet doesnt just account for totals by ISO name
Chaang-Noi: ahh
Ukto: they are just sum'd that way
mircea_popescu: any other exchange, including mtgox, could just close tomorrow and well... enjoy liquidators
Ukto: in fact, you are holding issued notes signed by the issuer
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00062002 = 12.2454 BTC [-]
Ukto: that have an ISO designation
mircea_popescu: Ukto like gpg signed ?
Ukto: kinda
Ukto: but its not needed
Ukto: its all stored in the p2p ledger database
Chaang-Noi: Ukto are involved with ripple, also can you tell me why this system is differnt than btc?
Ukto: Chaang-Noi: I ahve been
Ukto: :P
Ukto: and I am not involved with it per say, I jsut run the only gate way
vampireb: sounds like a scammer heaven to me
Chaang-Noi: what is the over all pint of goal of ripple?
Chaang-Noi: point+
Ukto: and making a desktop wallet program for it
vampireb: i guess easy conversion between currencies
Ukto: de-centralised backed fiat
Ukto: in my opinion
vampireb: but bitcoin does the same, i can convert to any fiat
Chaang-Noi: how is it decentralized if you have the only gateway?
Ukto: covert yes
Ukto: bit this is actual currency
Ukto: no conversion
Ukto: but
vampireb: if i go to russia, i just send BTC to qukppay machines
maximian: I'd like to try it, but the Ripple wallet tells me I need ripples (XRP), and it's not clear how to get those.
Ukto: your misunderstanding
Ukto: Ripple is NOT ment to replace btc
Ukto: ripple is VERY btc friendly
Chaang-Noi: i do not understand what ripple does :/
vampireb: how ripple covers exchange rate
Ukto: it allows you to store your fiats
pigeons: it lets you pay people or get paid
Ukto: lemme rephrase that
BitHub: fiat is such a sexy word
Ukto: it lets you store ANYTHING
Ukto: decentralised
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 55 @ 0.719 = 39.545 BTC [+]
BitHub: hehe ripples
Ukto: BitHub: your thinking of overpriced cars again
Ukto: :P
Chaang-Noi: btc let me get paid or pay others
BitHub: think i will name my kid fiat
BitHub: yo fiiiiiiiiat
vampireb: ok so I got $20 in IOU from ripple, how do I convert to the actual $20 bill
pigeons: yes but only in btc, ripple lets you get paid in silver, hours, seashells, or euros
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 33 @ 0.721 = 23.793 BTC [+]
pigeons: vampireb: you send it to someone who will accept it and give you a note
Ukto: and POOP
Ukto: you can pay ppl in POOP
mircea_popescu: Ukto you're totally insane if you're dicking around with destops for ripple instead of plugging bf in here.
Ukto: >,>
mircea_popescu: coders dude. give them a challenge, they'll be happy
Ukto: mircea_popescu: lol, nah, the desktop codes on the side burner
BitHub: :D
vampireb: so that someone may charge me interest... Hey you give me $20 in IOU, and I give $10 in physical bills...
vampireb: hmm
BitHub: stay focus
mircea_popescu: pigeons how do i collect a seashell ?
Chaang-Noi: what is BF?
pigeons: vampireb: interest is in the spec, and the original ripplepay implementation, but not implemented yet in opencoin/payward ripple.com system
Ukto: https://bitfunder.com
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi bitfunder.com
Ukto: you know of it
Ukto: you saw it long ago
Ukto: in alpha
Chaang-Noi: yeah, you just never told me the name:)
vampireb: so what's the difference...
Ukto: apples and oranges
vampireb: I sent 10BTC to a guy in NY, and I get $200 from him
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00632265 = 2.5291 BTC [-]
vampireb: or I do the same in Russia
vampireb: same stuff.
Chaang-Noi: is BF working out well Ukto? i have not been folowing that stuff much lately.
Ukto: Chaang-Noi: user support says yes. :)
Chaang-Noi: it looked cool when you let me see it ages ago.
mircea_popescu: it's all blue and shit.
Ukto: Its gotten 1,000x better since you last saw it
Chaang-Noi: oh cool
Ukto: mircea_popescu: I thoguth about putting a unicorn easter egg somewhere, just fo ryou
mircea_popescu: lol
Ukto: a nice BLUE one
Ukto: :P
Chaang-Noi: ill have to check it out, i hope btc goes back down, i need to buy somre more...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 53 @ 0.721 = 38.213 BTC [+]
Ukto: Chaang-Noi: not for at least 3~5 weeks
Ukto: we will see $30 within 30~45 days
BitHub: update the news section Ukto :P give me a lil present to read :)
mircea_popescu: Ukto we might see 100
Ukto: i see 100's all the time
Ukto: :P
Chaang-Noi: ukto i think you might be right, no one is selling! once it hits 30ish you see it crashing a bit?
mircea_popescu: "Please stop being a jerk, EskimoBob." evoorhees is so cute i swear
Ukto: depends on the news burst that goes with it
Ukto: right now a lot of "
mircea_popescu: i imagine the reason eskimoblob is a jerk is because nobody asked him to stop befoar.
Ukto: normals" are investing into btc
Ukto: when it hits 30, if there is not a huge news buzz of crazyness
Ukto: it will slump back to $25
Ukto: or $22
mircea_popescu: Ukto i won't sell, for instance. i don;t care what it is tbh.
Ukto: same
Ukto: I dont trade
Ukto: I use btc for btc
mircea_popescu: it all depends how many people hold how much btc this way
Chaang-Noi: hmm... anyone want gold or silver for btc? :)
vampireb: bitcoin shouldnt be 22.. now... now like i complain..
vampireb: not*
mircea_popescu: vampireb why not ?
Ukto: but.. when it hits $30, if there IS a big news deal, and it goes further viral
Ukto: you can expect a major price jump to $35~$40 very quickly
BitHub: where chaang?
BitHub: jesus ukto
Chaang-Noi: the gold and silver is in the usa
vampireb: i dont know, it rose too quickly. i prefer stable rates.. then the rate that change every day by like 10%
Ukto: I have been contacted by a number of 'normal' investors
Ukto: seeking help with using btc, and other things
vampireb: i cant type. :/
Ukto: through various channels
BitHub: do they have ballz deep pockets?
Ukto: bitcoin is becoming a buzz
mircea_popescu: vampireb i see your point re stable rates.
mircea_popescu: however, there's a great advantage to mlt cap over 1bn
mircea_popescu: and since by now stability is fucked anyway
mircea_popescu: might as well get the bn
Ukto: We had stability.
vampireb: if i sell something that i bought for USD.. i dont need to recalc the price 10x time a day.. I wouldnt do that for EUR
Ukto: It drove in a new demand
Ukto: now its going nuts due to the huge demand
Ukto: All exchanges are currently getting a flood of incoming cash
BitHub: best to buy up while its 25
vampireb: i sold just a PI for 3BTC, that's over $70 now
Ukto: This is fact, not fiction
mircea_popescu: Ukto i know.
vampireb: rasberry pi
vampireb: hard to set prices which such swings
Ukto: In fact, after some dsicussions, I venture to say that the last 30 days, has been the largest influx of new cash into exchanges in such a short period ever for bitcoin
BitHub: yeah, i can see that
Bugpowder: Duh
BitHub: it has been doing really well this year so far
Ukto: We are riding on a tsunami atm, thats jsut getting bigger until it crashes into something. but in the end, it will still leave higher water levels than the start.
Bugpowder: I am going to have a lot of
vampireb: well people know more and more about bitcoin.. few of my coworkers knew about.. that suprised me a lot
Bugpowder: Coins after the crash
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder eheheeh
Ukto: coingenuity ran into a bartender girl at a bar randomly, who knew of them
Ukto: I coudl have written that better. oh well
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00062002 = 8.1223 BTC [-]
vampireb: is it that becuase of silkroad ? :_)
coingenuity: Ukto: was a coffee-girl, but yeah
Ukto: fine
coingenuity: heh, point still stands
mircea_popescu: coingenuity i was thinking oh, the man drinks ?
Bugpowder: Fuckin take all of mpbor in well
vampireb: like a coffeehouse in amsterdam?
Bugpowder: Timed puts
coingenuity: not an ugly girl, as well
Ukto: only Nyquil
Ukto: :P
coingenuity: Ukto: speaks the truth, im not a substance-liker
coingenuity: btw
coingenuity: to that end, when i was at defcon, i had a standing bet
coingenuity: that the vast majority of strangers i asked would know what bitcoin was
coingenuity: to make it interesting, i basically only asked women if i could
mircea_popescu: did you win ?
coingenuity: and only 1 out of ALL the genders i asked didn't know what bitcoin was
coingenuity: around 10 people, mostly women
mircea_popescu: cool.
pigeons: they were my hos
mod6: haha
coingenuity: pigeons: lol
Ukto: also, the CEO of the ripple foundation is Chris Larsen, former chaiman, CEO and co-founder of prosper.com
Ukto: He has made a lot of big connections for Ripple
mircea_popescu: amazon coin has a lot of big connections too.
mircea_popescu: i still don't know why i'd use it. why'd i use it ?
kakobreklaa: my bitcoind has 8 connections.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00062002 = 6.6652 BTC [-]
Ukto: mircea_popescu: *shrug* thats for you to figure out.
Ukto: :)
coingenuity: mircea_popescu: amazon coin cracks me up
Ukto: I am jsut a gateway
Ukto: ask the ripple guys in #ripple
mircea_popescu: coingenuity such a fine example of design by commitee
Ukto: lots of people wanted to cash into it
Ukto: I said okay
Ukto: and filled a gap
Ukto: end of story
Ukto: :P
mircea_popescu: Ukto not like it's a crime. im just questing for knowledge
Ukto: honestly, I think they want it to replace payment services
mircea_popescu: without a blockchain ?
Ukto: yes
pigeons: it has a blockchain
mircea_popescu: hurr.
mircea_popescu: wait, what ?
Ukto: no blockchain
vampireb: i dont think ripple is much more different than a bitcoin, and that's just fragmenting the market..
Ukto: near instant transfers
vampireb: they have a ledger
Ukto: yes
mircea_popescu: dude they can't even agree if it has a chain ;/
mircea_popescu: i've had enough of this for now, my brain is rippling.
vampireb: i agree, the website is so confusing.
Ukto: very confusing
Ukto: I agree
Ukto: I have told them to change it
coingenuity: mircea_popescu: lol
Ukto: Since I have the server source, etc, I have a very deep understanding of exactly how it works
mircea_popescu: you don't have the source ?
mircea_popescu: did you code your server to api spec or what
Ukto: [22:38] <Ukto> Since I have the server source
mircea_popescu: a a sorry.
Ukto: :)
Ukto: Its not public atm
Ukto: and very few people 'understand' it
mircea_popescu: ok so. it does payments. how does it resolve the dblspend problem ? blockchain ?
Ukto: no blockchain
Ukto: ituses ledgers
pigeons: https://ripple.com/wiki/Ledger_Format
mircea_popescu: but ?
Ukto: and concensus
pigeons: hash table ledger, similar idea
Ukto: except your not chaining anything
Ukto: and theres no mining
mircea_popescu: so if you don't chain them how do you get a history ?
maximian: so it uses consensus instead of proof-of-work to secure the ledger
pigeons: you do chain them
Ukto: maximian: correct
Ukto: pigeons: to some extent
Ukto: however its not the same style
Ukto: for example right now
Ukto: thre are at least 3 missing ledgers
Ukto: a chain cannot have a missing link
mircea_popescu: Flags
mircea_popescu: Every node has a 32-bit flags field that indicates which universal and node-type-specific flags are present.
mircea_popescu: ok, who specced this thing ?
Ukto: was not me
pigeons: yeah well we'll see how this specific implementation of ripple evolves
Ukto: its weird
Ukto: also
mircea_popescu: so noboduy admits to having specced it i take it ?
Ukto: there is division use
Ukto: and that annoyed the crap out of me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00062067 = 2.2965 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: To store a large directory of indexes, the entries are divided into nodes of a manageable size. Each node knows the relative offset of the previous and next nodes. Empty nodes can be deleted. However, the first node can not be deleted unless there are no other nodes as we use the first node to efficiently find other nodes.
mircea_popescu: ok this is nonsense.
maximian: So is the consensus method proven to be equally secure as proof-of-work, or does it not have to be?
mircea_popescu: if you delete an empty node don't you get a dangling pointer ?
mircea_popescu: maximian it's not nearly as secure fwiw.
pigeons: maximian: neither is proven
mircea_popescu: srsly ? 4 years into it, still not proven ?
maximian: I suppose I don't mean proven in the mathematical sense.
pigeons: proof of work + supsidy has worked well for a few years so far yes
Ukto: anywho
pigeons: i wouldnt say proven, and it remains to be seen if proof of work will hold when subsidy is gone
Ukto: I am gonna try to code
Ukto: so I can get this done
mircea_popescu: pigeons what happens to the consensus method if there's a net split for 24 hours which then resolves ?
Ukto: ah
Ukto: that was one of my peevs
Ukto: there is an islanding thing
mircea_popescu: i would think there would be yes.
pigeons: i am not familair with consensus or this ripple implementation. i am just saying proof of work is far from proven
Ukto: as for the plans on that
mircea_popescu: that we agree with.
Ukto: there is a minority detection thing
Ukto: they have
mircea_popescu: im just a fanboi.
vampireb: ok. so they have a current ledger, when the system decides to create a new ledger? after xx seconds? xx transactions?
maximian: My understanding is that the proof-of-work method of synchronizing nodes is a real breakthrough in distributed computing, and I'm wondering how consensus stacks up against that.
mircea_popescu: maximian same here.
pigeons: its is less expensive and probable less "secure" but we don't know, that's why we use these things
mircea_popescu: i wonder why it being less expensive is a good thing.
mircea_popescu: isn't a good chunk of btc security derived precisely from the fact that its' so damned expensive to attack ?
pigeons: yes
mircea_popescu: in some contexts i see less expensive and my brain reads cheap.
pigeons: some of that was borrowed with ripple.com with their XRP transaction fees
mircea_popescu: i thought that was more akin some sort of demurage implementation
pigeons: well there are many different goals and people are willing or able to pay differnt prices for the,
pigeons: mircea_popescu: it is intended to add expense. they sort of demmurge in the fact that they are permanently destroyed, increasing the value and expense
mircea_popescu: well, i guess we see what time brings to it.
pigeons: it is quite beta for sure
maximian: I've got an open mind about it, and I'd like to try it, buy I can't get any of these XRPs to transact with
pigeons: give me your address and i'll give you some
mircea_popescu: maximian do you have a client and everything ?
maximian: pigeons: thanks, hold on
maximian: mircea_popescu: I just setup a wallet at ripple.com
maximian: it's web-based
maximian: pigeons: r3B5eqGFAHKTD74sXajnMhmb41FmBtb3Sa
mircea_popescu: Loading...
mircea_popescu: i guess it needs js or java or something ?
maximian: yep
maximian: js for sure
pigeons: its a javascript browser plugin that uses websockets to connect to theri server
pigeons: javascript
Chaang-Noi: what happens all the money in ripple if say the govt shuts down ripple.com or redirects it to some other site?
pigeons: you ideally run the client locally
Chaang-Noi: oh, i did not know that could be done
pigeons: right now it is obviously centralised and vulnerable in those ways
Chaang-Noi: i do not unerstand how they got around the double spend issue unless either it is centralized, or they have a block chain
maximian: awesome
maximian: thanks pigeons
pigeons: you got them?
maximian: yep, got a green alert
mircea_popescu: https://ripple.com/wp-content/themes/ripple-theme/img/logo.png
maximian: 300 XRP
BitHub: anybody ever succesfull able to show their localbitcoins.com add on their own website?
maximian: pigeons: I received your trust 0.25 BTC event, how do I reciprocate?
Ukto: currently
Ukto: the ONLY client
Ukto: is the ripple.com JS
Ukto: which is why I started making my client last month
Ukto: once I get done with my current project
Ukto: and do a couple quick small things
Ukto: I will get it ready for alpha release
Chaang-Noi: using JS and i can get hacked?
Chaang-Noi: i use no script, i guess that is why it is not working for me.
Ukto: I poked someone in ripple to talk in #ripple
Ukto: if you wanna go hound them with questions
Ukto: ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 278 @ 0.00632265 = 1.7577 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 222 @ 0.0063 = 1.3986 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: i asked a question, thanks ukto
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.49002, Best ask: 23.50998, Bid-ask spread: 0.01996, Last trade: 23.51000, 24 hour volume: 49657.03583015, 24 hour low: 22.58468, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.39455
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6559 @ 0.00062664 = 4.1101 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1041 @ 0.00062473 = 0.6503 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7957 @ 0.00062667 = 4.9864 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2659 @ 0.00062473 = 1.6612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2608 @ 0.00062032 = 1.6178 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8533 @ 0.0006203 = 5.293 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/02/electronics-border-seizures/
mircea_popescu: shit's pretty funny. if you buy an ipad it's not your ipad
mircea_popescu: sez obama.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12699 @ 0.00062667 = 7.9581 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21384 @ 0.00063407 = 13.559 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00062699 = 8.7152 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20967 @ 0.0006203 = 13.0058 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5904 @ 0.00062003 = 3.6607 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14145 @ 0.00062002 = 8.7702 BTC [-]
Schadenfreude: One of many reasons why evorhees should move out of the US asap
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00062002 = 7.2542 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i think he prolly will.
error4733: already done before the IPO if he was smart
Schadenfreude: That's my main worry if it comes to s.dice, think a Kim Dotcomesque scenario
error4733: no way
Schadenfreude: yah wai
error4733: all the players need it's the 12 addres
Schadenfreude: Doesn't it need maintenance?
error4733: ok explain for me please how the fed or other can take down S.dice
error4733: one main page in irlande
error4733: the script somewhere in the world
error4733: with 5 backup
mircea_popescu: Schadenfreude it needs some maintenance, obviously, but i don't think erik is involved in that himself
mircea_popescu: error4733 yes it's very censorship resistant.
mircea_popescu: it got to ipo on mpex cause it's about as strong as mpex after all.
Schadenfreude: Well, obviously I was more worried as shareholder - no dividends, price tanking etc.
error4733: i'm in the same boat
error4733: but i think for all those detail before bought my share
mircea_popescu: and some govt going bonkers is a legitimate concern
mircea_popescu: but still i guess the damage could be well limited.
error4733: even if eric hold all the 90%, just no way to prove it
error4733: 88% sorry
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.0007 BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062002 = 1.5501 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: prove what you mean ?
error4733: if fed knok the eric door
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00062002 = 6.8512 BTC [-]
error4733: Knock*
mircea_popescu: well, the only way to prove it is if i say so, or else if they find a cleartext stat.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00062074 = 3.0416 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.0062 = 0.0496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00062013 = 10.6662 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00062002 = 1.054 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16072 @ 0.00062002 = 9.965 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00062002 = 24.7388 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://www.google.com/search?q=mpex&complete=0
mircea_popescu: ahh, finally ahead of the wiki
assbot: [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 40 @ 0.0429 = 1.716 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6 @ 0.00606903 = 0.0364 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6436 @ 0.00062074 = 3.9951 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3312 @ 0.00062314 = 2.0638 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00606903 = 4.8552 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.0007 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0006312 = 2.5248 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33959 @ 0.00063121 = 21.4353 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8852 @ 0.00062314 = 5.516 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3848 @ 0.00062002 = 2.3858 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12364 @ 0.00062002 = 7.6659 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062002 = 3.7201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8906 @ 0.00063121 = 5.6216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2444 @ 0.00063126 = 1.5428 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00062002 = 1.457 BTC [-]
Bowjob: weekend dip
error4733: haha usagi nice catch
Bowjob: the dip is hapening!
Bowjob: 20.80
Bowjob: 22.80 i mean
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.79881, Best ask: 22.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08119, Last trade: 22.79881, 24 hour volume: 45295.99889934, 24 hour low: 22.75100, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.42737
mircea_popescu: o lala
Bowjob: well, we were moving too fast anyways
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7197 @ 0.00062184 = 4.4754 BTC [+]
Bowjob: What ever happened to pump and don't dump?
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: volume isn't particularly high
mircea_popescu: this is a supply side hickup
Bowjob: hey im not panicking lol
Bowjob: theres this dude who called in 23.20 as the high of 2013
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 6 minutes and 19 seconds
Bowjob: he can go suck a dick
mircea_popescu: he may well be right.
Bowjob: its the same dude who asked for a 1200 BTC loan
Bowjob: to "get back on his feet"
mircea_popescu: heh
Bowjob: since he's always wrong well, i bet hes wrong again
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: seems unlikely it stays under this week's max
mircea_popescu: after all year barely began
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00062184 = 5.2856 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 8 minutes and 33 seconds
Bowjob: yawn
Bowjob: ieh
Bowjob: we're back
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.12580, Best ask: 23.29899, Bid-ask spread: 0.17319, Last trade: 23.29900, 24 hour volume: 49226.55134271, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.37203
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5703 @ 0.00062184 = 3.5464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9297 @ 0.00062346 = 5.7963 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5353 @ 0.00062346 = 3.3374 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10347 @ 0.00062349 = 6.4513 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8546 @ 0.00062122 = 5.3089 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00062122 = 10.5607 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: mp, what have you done: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21401111
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5454 @ 0.00062122 = 3.3881 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00062098 = 1.7698 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1896 @ 0.00062002 = 1.1756 BTC [-]
Bowjob: sat dice still doesnt work for me
Bowjob: I cant see the bets
ThickAsThieves: same prob for me last nite, the dymanic content is coming thru very slowly
ThickAsThieves: if you wait a while the betting table appears
ThickAsThieves: but not the totals
Bowjob: i see it
Bowjob: i see it now, i dont see the recent bets though
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves wasn't me dood
mircea_popescu: was the other guy
Bowjob: horsemeat.. i know canada produces horsemeat and ships it to japan
Bowjob: ive nver tried though
Bowjob: so, mp you got some entrants for your SA trolling contest?
mircea_popescu: like a dozen by now
mircea_popescu: and horsemeat is great, i have a bit of salami in my fridge right now.
Bowjob: mm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.0006228 = 6.1969 BTC [+]
Bowjob: ive had dove, snake, aborted duck fetus, dog, and who knows what
Bowjob: all are fucking delicious. cept dog.. it was meh
mircea_popescu: i never had dog
Bowjob: oh, ive had one of those turtles as well'
mircea_popescu: or snake or bs chinese stuff
mircea_popescu: turtle soup ?
Bowjob: yeap
mircea_popescu: yeah thats nice
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00606903 = 2.3609 BTC [-]
error4733: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516423#msg1516423
error4733: #popcorn
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.0006228 = 0.9965 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6296 @ 0.00062349 = 3.9255 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00062723 = 2.8225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5865 @ 0.00063126 = 3.7023 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 31 @ 0.01 = 0.31 BTC [+]
error4733: brown sugar please why ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6241 @ 0.00063126 = 3.9397 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4698 @ 0.00063799 = 2.9973 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4261 @ 0.00063812 = 2.719 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00062987 = 6.6136 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35100 @ 0.00062002 = 21.7627 BTC [-]
Anduck: i thought EskimoBob liked mp
Bowjob: I'm buying 10,000 pizzas with 2 BTC. hit me up,
Bowjob: actually it might be a good PR for bitcoin. donate the pizzas to people everywhere
Bowjob: may 22 would be a good date, the day laszlo got his pizza
mircea_popescu: this is actually a good idea
mircea_popescu: have an international day of bitcoin pizza
mircea_popescu: just go out give some dood a pizza, put on youtube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00063812 = 7.9127 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.081 = 0.243 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.0926 = 0.2778 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0928 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5989 @ 0.00063812 = 3.8217 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4111 @ 0.00063816 = 2.6235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00063816 = 9.381 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0249 = 0.249 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0249 = 0.1245 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8232 @ 0.00063387 = 5.218 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00063816 = 2.3293 BTC [+]
Anduck: selling 50 ASICMINER shares at 0.44 BTC each
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3739 @ 0.00063816 = 2.3861 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3315 @ 0.00063924 = 2.1191 BTC [+]
jurov: EskimoBob: if you know how to do things properly, go do it. make your own exchange
jurov: otherwise i don't know what you hope to achieve
Bowjob: he's a troll
jurov: i'm always interested in one's original intention. troll or not.
jurov: and EskimoBob is so far complete mystery
jurov: "just a hater" classification won't satisfy me
mircea_popescu: what now ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6309 @ 0.00063924 = 4.033 BTC [+]
jurov: not needed, there are already a dozen exchanges. i'm sure someone would welcome his expert consulting services
jurov: then do better. or at least write blog about it.
jurov: i think it isn't by chance that some do blog about their business and others do not.
jurov: loooooooooooooooool
jurov: there were some computations of mpex mkt cap around...and if you think you can do it better, then it would be worth much more, ofc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00064055 = 9.5442 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00064096 = 1.8267 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00064168 = 0.1283 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12827 @ 0.00063972 = 8.2057 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1568 @ 0.00063568 = 0.9967 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9655 @ 0.0006313 = 6.0952 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: mp, are you TradeFortress on bittalk?
Bowjob: why do you ask that?
Bowjob: almost surely, he isnt tradefortress
ThickAsThieves: well i havent followed TF or anything, just saw some posts that were in line with mp comments here
ThickAsThieves: and appearing in places where MPOE-PR comments
ThickAsThieves: and never saw a user with mp's name on bittalk, so figured TF might be him
ThickAsThieves: nothing scandalous, just wondering
Bowjob: TradeFortress shows up here sometimes with MP simultaneously
ThickAsThieves: word
ThickAsThieves: still not impossible
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00064168 = 1.3796 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: but no biggie
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 961 @ 0.00620896 = 5.9668 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nope ?
mircea_popescu: i don't have a btctalk acct art all, mpoe-pr does the foruming for me
ThickAsThieves: word
Bowjob: Tradefortress made a topic that has an starts with "I" in the in the topic title, I don't think mp would make a blunder like that
Bowjob: Okay, not start with 'I' but close enough
Bowjob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135110.0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2610 @ 0.00064168 = 1.6748 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3590 @ 0.00064204 = 2.3049 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0249 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: we should investigate this much further
pigeons: tradefortress is a tool, he tried to fork freicoin and attack it but forgot to make his code actuallu work
Bowjob: also his firstbits is 1glados
Bowjob: mp doesnt play vidja
ThickAsThieves: i kidding
ThickAsThieves: like i said, it was just a random though
ThickAsThieves: t
jurov: i once wanted to oust mp as sacha baron cohen.. still think that would be much better plan than some random forum dude
pigeons: i had the same thoughts!
Bowjob: Omg
Bowjob: Borat as owner of MPEX
Bowjob: lol
mircea_popescu: i think the guy is a kid trying things out
mircea_popescu: i recall he was making some sort of project that didn't work but no speciffics.
mircea_popescu: o wait, the bitoicn gem ripoff ?
Bowjob: yeah
Bowjob: the gold bar
mircea_popescu: jurov you know if you could get cohen to do it it'd prolly kick all ass
jurov: oh and di you knew our friend here usagi uncovered mpoe-pr to be erin pavlina, a psychic from vegas?
mircea_popescu: that was a while ago neh ?
jurov: yes
mircea_popescu: kinda ugly old woman i thought.
mircea_popescu: coulda picked a better someone
pigeons: http://www.erinpavlina.com/images/erin-injured.jpg
jurov: fortunately later inaba got a doxing fever and inadvertently confirmed beyond doubt her real identity and her ties with mp/polimedia
mircea_popescu: lol
jurov: ^ twas awhile ago, too. just executive summary for newbs.
mircea_popescu: is there an insrtance where inaba set to do something
mircea_popescu: and didn't end up doing the exact oposite ?
mircea_popescu: a, here we go https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00064116 = 1.8594 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14960 @ 0.00064204 = 9.6049 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2040 @ 0.00064243 = 1.3106 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2737 @ 0.00064116 = 1.7549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15763 @ 0.00063473 = 10.0052 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00063473 = 1.682 BTC [-]
Ukto: it used to be
Ukto: used to have ads all over the place here to sell milk in the 80s
Ukto: "Milk, it does a body good."
Ukto: to drink like 5~6 glasses a day
mircea_popescu: thats kinda what i do atm
Ukto: even though your body can only absorb like 3 glasses worth of calcium a day
mircea_popescu: but milk is good
Ukto: you drink D, 1%, 2%, skim? half/half?
mircea_popescu: 4.6%
Ukto: 0,o
Ukto: D
Ukto: then
mircea_popescu: a gallon is good for ~ 5-6 days
Ukto: mircea_popescu: We call that D milk here.
mircea_popescu: aha
Ukto: My personal preference
Ukto: the lesser stuff is too watery
mircea_popescu: it is better if coming out of D cups yes.
Ukto: haha
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: brb
Ukto: thats a diff type of milk
Ukto: :P
Ukto: same
Ukto: sleep time
Ukto: afk
Ukto: usagi: thanks again for that help
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2887 @ 0.00063473 = 1.8325 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11815 @ 0.00063159 = 7.4622 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2035 @ 0.0006313 = 1.2847 BTC [-]
Bowjob: we now have a thread about pussies in bitcointalk
Bowjob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142318.40
thestringpuller: this ones for mircea_popescu : http://qkme.me/3sx5kp?id=229974649
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.0006313 = 6.1867 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 894 @ 0.002 = 1.788 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3810 @ 0.0006313 = 2.4053 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00062889 = 4.4966 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 190 @ 0.0006284 = 0.1194 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5060 @ 0.00063414 = 3.2087 BTC [+]
Bowjob: that 2.5 mil shares way above the marketline, that's erik's right?
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: Bowjob i think they were there since long ago
mircea_popescu: no ?
Bowjob: 0.01750000 1`000`000 0.01000000 2`500`000
Bowjob: mhm, i don't remember seeing it
Bowjob: then again I never really look up that high lol
mircea_popescu: maybe. im not even sure
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14090 @ 0.00063414 = 8.935 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5399 @ 0.00063461 = 3.4263 BTC [+]
mjr_: hey everyone
mircea_popescu: hi
mjr_: what's new?
mircea_popescu: nothing much, bfl delivered, pirate paid, hell froze over...
Anduck: only one of those really happened
Anduck: mjr_: now it's your job to find out which one
ThickAsThieves: you dont think bfl will deliver?
mjr_: bfl delivered?
Anduck: nope, bfl didnt deliver.
ThickAsThieves: (nothing much) was the correct answer
mjr_: hell must have frozen over then
Anduck: correct!
mjr_: lol
mjr_: jeff's asic paid for itself in 9 days
Anduck: yep
mjr_: that is pretty crazy
mjr_: but i guess the spike in price made it faster
ThickAsThieves: I think BFL will deliver maybe 25% of orders in early march and fill all orders by April, ASICMINER will go online next weekend, and Avalons will trickle out very slowly starting at the end of the month
ThickAsThieves: that's my best guesstimate from what i've read at least...
mircea_popescu: that'll make whoever made the big bfl bet pretty happy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1476 @ 0.00063461 = 0.9367 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00063507 = 2.0957 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6824 @ 0.00063768 = 4.3515 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: that bet will be right on the delivery line I bet, hopefully it'll be a nailbiter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062841 = 0.6284 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3416 @ 0.0006284 = 2.1466 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1994 @ 0.0006284 = 1.253 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062593 = 3.8182 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1677 @ 0.00062532 = 1.0487 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9376 @ 0.00063768 = 5.9789 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12810 @ 0.00064243 = 8.2295 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2338 @ 0.00064267 = 1.5026 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7396 @ 0.00064275 = 4.7538 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3021 @ 0.0006428 = 1.9419 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o hey, seems there's a little fun to play.
mircea_popescu: ;;everify midnightmagic
gribble: Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
mircea_popescu: ooops
mircea_popescu: ;;eauth mircea_popescu
gribble: Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:70718f15a4ccbc80065e1446f898b1dcd1a29f8c25ce0fdff2274276
gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
mircea_popescu: ;;rate ne0futur -10 never traded/interacted with the person. prolly scammer getting uppity
Namworld: Hey evoorhees
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user ne0futur has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate bobberb -10 never traded/interacted with the person. prolly scammer getting uppity
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user bobberb has been recorded.
evoorhees: hey hey
Namworld: dafuq mircea?
mircea_popescu: i have no idea
mircea_popescu: i guess the scammers are getting organised now.
Namworld: pretty sure ne0futur didn't deserve that
maximian: evoorhees: how are things? seems like the s.dice website is having trouble
mircea_popescu: Namworld he rated me -2.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea who he is or wtf.
evoorhees: hey got your message last night
Namworld: oh
evoorhees: seems fine right now but we're lookin at it
maximian: great
Namworld: I told you evoorhees to just keep the slice and put the next ones behind it
maximian: ah yeah, working fine now
Namworld: Someone ought to eat into them eventually
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: Nam, there are no asks on BBET passthrough fyi
Namworld: I need someone to sell me BBET first
Namworld: no one is
Namworld: and 0.002 is way too high
mircea_popescu: Namworld ill tell you it's suspicious as all hell, account active feb-june 2011 suddenly pops up to neg me ?
Namworld: I know the guy, BitVPS client, he's an affiliate. Advertises us a lot in #bitcoin-hosting
mircea_popescu: well then why is he sockpuppeting the wot ?
mircea_popescu: 2013-02-10 06:46:05 / 2013-02-10 06:46:36
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00062532 = 3.3142 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: like hell that's a coincidence, that's the same person there.
Namworld: Looks like it's for GIGA.ETF
mircea_popescu: to me it looks like it's for not having something better to do with his time.
mircea_popescu: i literally don't think i have ever talked to the guy, at all.
pigeons: he read the post, felthe should reflect the trust in the WoT, and did
mircea_popescu: with both his account and his sock ?
pigeons: i'm gonna ask him about that
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the point about how the wot is for interaction not hearsay.
pigeons: i don't think its a sock, i bet they were talking about it in the channel and someone else was upset too
pigeons: oh you had interaction with genjix and pirate?
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: dafuq did you imagine ?!
pigeons: tell me about it
pigeons: lets go with genjix since we've heard enough about pirate
Namworld: I thought ratings were for reflecting how much trust you have for someone
mircea_popescu: he fakereported dtng for "child porn". i had to threaten to sue him.
Namworld: regardless of interactions
mircea_popescu: Namworld i thought its for business rather than gossip
pigeons: that's how most of us use it Namworld
mircea_popescu: then again i might be off base for there.
mircea_popescu: but anyway : anyone want free -10s they're welcome to neg me out of the blue, i'll oblige.
mircea_popescu: and if there's cause for a sock war, we'll do a sock war too.
mircea_popescu: technology, what can you do. gotta explore it.
pigeons: look at the -otc logs
pigeons: its not a sock
mircea_popescu: i am not in otc.
pigeons: people can agree without being socks
mircea_popescu: this is true.
mircea_popescu: i'll happily go on what things look like from where i'm sitting rather than what things "are".
pigeons: hehe ok
pigeons: I knew that already though
mircea_popescu: yeah.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3411 @ 0.0006363 = 2.1704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00063891 = 6.6127 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 689 @ 0.0006428 = 0.4429 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i knew from the get-go that as long as the girl continues to push the wot there's sooner or later going to be some smartassery. so, whatev.
mircea_popescu: color me trolled.
Namworld: :;rate mircea_popescu -1 Where's my free -10 rating? I want it NAOW!
mircea_popescu: lmao
Namworld: Hey, it's free
mircea_popescu: ;:rate namworld -0x0A newb.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 63 @ 0.01 = 0.63 BTC [+]
Namworld: Wow, it's even in fancy exadecimal. Free and luxurious.
jurov: http://satoshitemple.com/index.html today it's extra lulzy
Namworld: hexa*
jurov: almost sounds like a bait for true satoshi to come and explicitly distance himself from that site
Namworld: I think the last line is the punchline xD
mircea_popescu: kinda platitudinous neh ?
error4733: i like the meditation space
mircea_popescu: hm github dead ?
error4733: http://satoshitemple.com/meditation-space.html
mircea_popescu: nm false alarm
thestringpuller: github is gonna get bought out soon
thestringpuller: "inside information"
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/new-mpex-key/
mircea_popescu: jurov ^
jurov: hrm
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: are we allowed to reupload keys if they expire?
jurov: lookg like gpg 2.0 uses different switches
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller not rly
jurov: gpg --recv-keys CFE0F3E1 instead... will go through and post a comment
thestringpuller: so why do you get to have expiring keys and we don't?
thestringpuller: HMMMMMM
mircea_popescu: they changes searchkeys ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well what'd you want, fairness ?
thestringpuller: YESSIR!
mircea_popescu: it's all a ploy to force ppl to buy more and more keys.
thestringpuller: sounds like it
jurov: aaah seems your wordpress converted -- into ndashes
mircea_popescu: i fixed it
mircea_popescu: sorry ;/
Bugpowder: googletalk forum members won't be pleased to hear this news... http://allthingsd.com/20130208/google-chairman-eric-schmidt-to-sell-up-to-42-percent-of-stake/
mircea_popescu: O MAY GAWD
mircea_popescu: DUMPING
mircea_popescu: this is too funny. ima have the girl post.
jurov: evoorhees should spew stuff like "long-term strategy of individual asset diversification and liquidity" on btctalk
Bugpowder: Needs to diversify into S.MPOE
pigeons: allthings satoshidice wow
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder dude, if he takes half that dough and buys btc
Bugpowder: Elon has got to be fucking pissed at this review
Bugpowder: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/automobiles/stalled-on-the-ev-highway.html?pagewanted=1&hpw
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7790 @ 0.0006428 = 5.0074 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: maybe the teslas just suck ? :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064297 = 1.6074 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1110 @ 0.00064304 = 0.7138 BTC [+]
jurov: yea, there's funny comment below article "why they can't just add propane heating?"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00063456 = 11.4855 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062532 = 2.5013 BTC [-]
jurov: but srsly, for that price good insulation + air heat exchanged is thinkable
jurov: not in california, tho
jurov: *exchanger
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.081 = 0.486 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0062 = 0.62 BTC [+]
jurov: cause of this they'll fall flat in most of yurp, too
mircea_popescu: Feeding the 416 horsepower motor of the top-of-the-line Model S Performance edition is a half-ton lithium-ion battery pack slung beneath the cockpit
mircea_popescu: srsly now... half ton battery ?
mircea_popescu: what if that thing catches on fire
jurov: they apparently agineered battery pack to avoid fire: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/elon-musk-boeing-787-battery-fundamentally-unsafe-381627/
jurov: derp, *engineered
jurov: but still, if you crash tesla in sufficient speed... remains to be seen. maybe rkoi do such experiment soon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3890 @ 0.00064304 = 2.5014 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4410 @ 0.00064305 = 2.8359 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: scary thing
Bugpowder: According to the tesla forums, the battery drain when he parked overnight was becuase the battery pack actively heats itself during cold weather to keep the pack healthy.
Bugpowder: Anyway, Tesla is an LA car
mircea_popescu: pretty much
Bugpowder: So if I get an LA job
Bugpowder: I will need an LA car
Bugpowder: :)
Bugpowder: Their problem is their engineers are all in LA
Bugpowder: so the weather is just not on their awareness
pigeons: cant get girl cause i dont have acar, cant get a car cause i dont have a job, cant get a job cause i dont have a gun now im looking for a girl with a car and a house and a job and a gun and cable in la
jurov: they don't need AC in LA either?
jurov: its equally power hungry
mircea_popescu: in la they have lightning
Bugpowder: It never goes below 0C in LA
Bugpowder: A trip to Mammoth or Tahoe though...
Bugpowder: could be an issue
mircea_popescu: Nearing New York, I made the first of several calls to Tesla officials about my creeping range anxiety. The woman who had delivered the car told me to turn off the cruise control; company executives later told me that advice was wrong. All the while, my feet were freezing and my knuckles were turning white.
mircea_popescu: lmo
mircea_popescu: the shit people do to be cool
Bugpowder: what's cooler than being cool?
Bugpowder: ice cold!
jurov: tesla should include wire with hooks to ninja-connect to overhead wires
mircea_popescu: jurov i was thinking actually, having a little antenna like a trolley...
mircea_popescu: might work
mircea_popescu: make th car in the shape of a ladybug
mircea_popescu: all the la fags would prolly be all over it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00064305 = 7.3951 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0062 = 12.4 BTC [+]
jurov: should electromobiles get more popular that wouldn't be a bad business idea, selling these kits
jurov: harpoon + hooked wires
mircea_popescu: you could have it detachable
mircea_popescu: only use if need be
jurov: "Recharge your auto errywhere"
mircea_popescu: course difficult to charge for it
jurov: no it won't be always attached
mircea_popescu: a, actually : have the wires on poles with a special ring on them, and a connector
mircea_popescu: the connector hooks to your car and only unhooks if you pay
mircea_popescu: sort of like supermarket carts
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.0007 = 0.07 BTC
jurov: just when range anxiety kicks in, you go and hook to overhead electricity
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1517002#msg1517002 lmao
jurov: waiting for the first tard who tries to hook his tesla on 110kv
mircea_popescu: i would hope they have some hard fuse
jurov: 110kv can jump over several meters... no fuse to help there
mircea_popescu: this is true
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00064305 = 5.5302 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: this is false
Bugpowder: http://www.kronjaeger.com/hv/hv/msr/spk/index.html
Bugpowder: 110kV air gap crossing is a few inches tops.
jurov: in dry conditions.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00064111 = 9.1038 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00064111 = 4.039 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00063324 = 6.459 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5131 @ 0.00062533 = 3.2086 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9310 @ 0.00062532 = 5.8217 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: people just be hatin' on S.MPOE lately
Bugpowder: wuzzupwiththat?
ThickAsThieves: peeps jumping on the sdice train?
Bugpowder: makes no sense
Bugpowder: I would think people would jump off the S.DICE train
Bugpowder: and rotate to S.MPOE
jurov: they expect higher divs from s.dice
jurov: and (needs analysis to confirm) s.mpoe has more early adopters that bought at lower prices than s.dice
mircea_popescu: seems about even
mircea_popescu: mpoe is like 11ish %, dice like 13
jurov: you mean PE?
ThickAsThieves: looks like SDICE share price is recovering quickly
mircea_popescu: no i mean shares held by 3rd parties
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695 i think teh lady doth have it.
maximian: EskimoBob: lay off the gasoline
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long he lasts before going the way of ciuciu
jurov: EskimoBob, i ask you again to do something genuinely useful
jurov: yourself, i mean
jurov: instead of telling others what they should be doing
mircea_popescu: "Hitler reportedly told Goebbels in 1942 that he planned to convert Germany to vegetarianism after he had won the war."
jurov: i mostly mind my own stuff.. let others decide if i;m useful
mircea_popescu: is there a bad idea that guy didn't have ?
maximian: he's like some angry drunk, raving at everybody and nobody
jurov: eskimo, you avoided answer to my inquiry
jurov: or you really think what you're doing right now is useful?
maximian: EskimoBob: don't you own some s.dice shares?
jurov: avoidance, again
Anduck: pro people sells their s.dice shares at 0.0075
maximian: I just think it's insane that someone would sow FUD about the very stock he holds
ThickAsThieves: Done, eskimobob on ignore, bleh
Anduck: no
Anduck: but -was- buying xD
Anduck: ( i sold at that price )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1963 @ 0.00062532 = 1.2275 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7887 @ 0.00062519 = 4.9309 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00063142 = 1.6101 BTC [+]
jurov: EskimoBob, i'm still waiting
jurov: for some useful thing you did. or at least advice
jurov: you like commandeering ppl over, don't you
jurov: ?
jurov: oh just read after yourself
jurov: and i won't ignore you. i'm not so easy ;)
jurov: literally, i did not ever seen a sentence written by you where you weren't telling someone else whet they should be doing
jurov: except when you were talking bout clay mugs workshop, maybe
Bugpowder: I am less concerned about regulation with S.MPOE
Bugpowder: and I am deeply concerned with S.DICE's future revenue
Bugpowder: given the whale address analysis I posted.
mircea_popescu: think it may be out of moneyz ?
Bugpowder: they are
jurov: EskimoBob: URL please
Bugpowder: for now
Bugpowder: that's not to say more won't show up
mircea_popescu: but i mean... are we satisfied there's pretty much 1 person playing the high stakes ?
Bugpowder: yah
mircea_popescu: ah, i missed thaty
mircea_popescu: i wonder who
Bugpowder: all those addresses passed coins around between them
mircea_popescu: not a mixer/exchange/something tho ?
Bugpowder: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1516655#msg1516655
Bugpowder: no direct refill from one address to another
Bugpowder: its all in the blockchain
Bugpowder: amazed that people don't do this homework
Bugpowder: it is possible EskimoBob
Bugpowder: and in fact, I first proposed this
Bugpowder: months ago.
Bugpowder: I don't believe it to be the case
Bugpowder: but it is possible
Bugpowder: I believe MP still has a 100BTC reward out there for proof
mircea_popescu: yeah, still unclaimed.
Bugpowder: and Erik will pay 50BTC if you can come up with a way to DISPROVE it with his help
mircea_popescu: pretty hefty sums huh
Bugpowder: EskimoBob: http://trilema.com/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/
ThickAsThieves: up it and maybe the whale will reveal himself so he can use the winnings to bet more
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.7167 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: However, I am pretty sure the IPO withdrawl proceeds are still sitting in untouched addresses
maximian: The thing is, whales really do exist… Erik recently returned from a trip to Macau, where he says he met with some gambling concerns… it seems reasonable to me that his visit sparked the interest of someone over there.
Bugpowder: maybe not though
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i haven't followed, but should be easy enough to see
maximian: yeah, all we can do is speculate
Bugpowder: yeah, weren't there 10,000BTC withdrawals from 1Fx
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.54300, Best ask: 23.57434, Bid-ask spread: 0.03134, Last trade: 23.54299, 24 hour volume: 53469.41322082, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.38975
evoorhees: sigh.... it's funny watching people talk about something that I know the definitive answer to, but have no way to prove it
mircea_popescu: evoorhees you'll get used to it, i think this is one of the main effects of btc
maximian: evoorhees: welcome to fearful investor time!
mircea_popescu: creates this sort of problem
mircea_popescu: of course, if whales really are chinese, they wouldn't be betting atm
mircea_popescu: it's new year's right ?
Bugpowder: http://blockchain.info/address/1GvaYKp4z7V4wVzL3xC1Kvj7zrTwNAh2wM
evoorhees: eskimobob - the whale/s is not me
maximian: the conspiracy theories are inversely proportional to expected dividend yields :)
mircea_popescu: maximian yes. but also directly proportional.
evoorhees: I have yet to see a sentence from you in which you refrain from calling people names
evoorhees: sure it could be trendon
maximian: ha, yes
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
evoorhees: you could be trendon, eskimobob
mircea_popescu: no, he couldn't. pirate was slimy but not stupid.
Bugpowder: http://blockchain.info/address/1AB2pgzv4yZQWp1ZS5Vb8sHWGHbuXwh2An
Bugpowder: http://blockchain.info/address/1BadjLJqb2CB73t3ZJ296xrwhHNhyo5JaU
mircea_popescu: what's those ?
evoorhees: I don't know eskimobob, but you really like to be rude and immature with people
evoorhees: you're rude to me
Bugpowder: those are addresses with large withdrawls from MPEx, and where the money sits
mircea_popescu: ah yes.
mircea_popescu: not all of the large mpex withdrawals are erik, fwiw.
evoorhees: yes you are eskimobob - in fact I think you're the only person in the entire bitcoin community who is consistently rude to me
evoorhees: ?
evoorhees: lol
evoorhees: so for you to not be rude to someone constitutes special treatment?
evoorhees: interesting
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6038 @ 0.00062519 = 3.7749 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5612 @ 0.00062493 = 3.5071 BTC [-]
jurov: EskimoBob, either you are rude to him or not... everyone can see which of that is the truth
jurov: no spin ncessary
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00063057 = 5.8328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00063142 = 6.5668 BTC [+]
jurov: oh yes, avoid the question again
jurov: you can. but don't expect anyone to treat you seriously when you deny it
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.62489, Best ask: 23.68998, Bid-ask spread: 0.06509, Last trade: 23.69000, 24 hour volume: 53432.08209497, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.39005
mircea_popescu: still plenty of potential upside...
jurov: <EskimoBob> evoorhees: i am rude only to scumbags
jurov: <EskimoBob> evoorhees:... and you are not a asshole, even you crawled to same bed with pervert popscu and the rest of the mpex clowns
jurov: that denial is gaping
assbot: [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 70 @ 0.0429 = 3.003 BTC [-]
jurov: lmao you basically said you won't be rude to him and then said he's in bed with perverts
thestringpuller: is there high school drama goin on
thestringpuller: ooh ooh! an eventful sunday for once
jurov: i'm hust having eskimobob here on a couch for a while
jurov: *just
jurov: you have no esteem for erik's own judgement
jurov: and you tell it to him in a rude way
jurov: you see what you want to see, indeed
evoorhees: EskimoBob is probably really nice in real life. It's a shame he acts like this online
mircea_popescu: evoorhees prolly has a lot to do with all the people giving him attention this way
mircea_popescu: as opposed to if he simply stuck to whatever he's doing, i don't recall.
thestringpuller: evoorhees: always so reasonable ;)
jurov: no just eskimo's got a fit... and i sometimes like to get trolls bored
mircea_popescu: ok so, the person doing farsi mpex faq wrote to express their concerns about use of terms such as "idiot".
mircea_popescu: til i'm possibly the least polite person alive.
jurov: you forget the girl
mircea_popescu: see how impolite i am ?
jurov: mircea_popescu: <EskimoBob> farsi translation? I guess they need to see your video of Qur'an burning
jurov: actually first useful idea of his, can be included right in the faq
mircea_popescu: from what i can tell iran is actualyl a merrily unstable mix of ethnic persians who resent the muslims and leading muslims who are struggling to stay in power.
mircea_popescu: sorta like india/pakistan except reversed
jurov: yes, he is not nice. but that's not a problem for me
jurov: i'm curious why you are so mad
jurov: so i'm making pointed inquiries
jurov: what exactly he did it to you? did he sent a girl to call you idiot? puhleaze
jurov: for someone who isn't mad you expend considerable energy
jurov: including telling other people (that seem intelligent enough to have their own judgement) to not lay in bed with perverts
mircea_popescu: ahahaha this is great. so you all think evoorhees is pretty nice ? somethingawful does not!
mircea_popescu: "Honestly, from what I've seen of him, he's bad but he's no worse than Erik Voorhees, who posted above him. Erik says the stupidest true believer bullshit all the time. He spews Bruce-level garbage. My favorite is when, during the last crash, a distraught bitcoiner was whining about having to sell his bitcoins for less than he paid for them in order to not be living on the street. Erik told him that he didn't believe i
mircea_popescu: n bitcoins hard enough and that he's glad that the guy sold his bitcoins because that means that there would be more available for Erik to purchase. He said something like, "This just shows that money always flows from the weak hands to the strong hands," and that his strong hands would be ready to snatch bitcoins from unfaithful bitcoiners. It's some of the stupidest poo poo I've ever heard."
mircea_popescu: basically... he's not sensitive enough for the liberal club. what now ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7338 @ 0.00062493 = 4.5857 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00062423 = 3.0587 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8612 @ 0.0006234 = 5.3687 BTC [-]
evoorhees: hehehe I remember saying that
evoorhees: and I was right
evoorhees: BAM $23
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: its funny how them kids work, mentally.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1388 @ 0.0006234 = 0.8653 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00062196 = 4.9757 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5862 @ 0.00062161 = 3.6439 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: disregard all contrary evidence, subselect some idiots off bitcvoin forum, post endlessly about how those idiots disregard all contrary evidence
mircea_popescu: it could be like a political debate or something.
jurov: i'm not worried. just in mood to do some research why you do all the misguided effort
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12467 @ 0.00062502 = 7.7921 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1033 @ 0.00062866 = 0.6494 BTC [+]
jurov: and why something like mircea being pervert would have any bearing on business?
jurov: me myself would be pronounced pervert in surprisingly large part of a world, cuz i'm gay
thestringpuller: EskimoBob just doesn't understand history, or facts really.
jurov: spammer? i didn't seen any evidence. you mean that SEO misunderstanding?
thestringpuller: This hipster mentality, "we are young so we are owed the world".
jurov: or that martha mcculler stuff that went nowhere?
mircea_popescu: what stuff is that ?
jurov: mircea_popescu: something wrt polimedia.us registration
mircea_popescu: o i recall. some nitwit complained that i have no nexus,
mircea_popescu: neustar inquired, i showed them teh nexus.
mircea_popescu: great victory for interwebs day.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6488 @ 0.00062161 = 4.033 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2307 @ 0.00062044 = 1.4314 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: !ticker m S.MPOE
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061978 / 0.00063368 / 0.00066091 (2909907 shares, 1,843.96 BTC), 7D: 0.00061978 / 0.00067944 / 0.0007 (20559168 shares, 13,968.81 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.0006647 / 0.0007 (70380888 shares, 46,782.44 BTC)
thestringpuller: are investors pulling out because of the trolls/naysayers?
mircea_popescu: o, i'm sure.
Bugpowder: of S.MPOE?
thestringpuller: XD
Bugpowder: who knows
Bugpowder: I know that I have picked up quite a bit
jurov: i'd say most naysaying was around s.dice
Bugpowder: in the last 24
thestringpuller: MPEX is awesome because unless you disclose yourself trading, no one really knows the investors.
mircea_popescu: yup.
Bugpowder: I should probably stop disclosing :-P
thestringpuller: Some illuminati shit right there.
mircea_popescu: you could be lieing.
Bugpowder: I am
maximian: mircea_popescu: do keep access logs?
Bugpowder: I AM LIEING
maximian: do you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13719 @ 0.00062866 = 8.6246 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: maximian which kind you mean ? all signed orders are kept yes.
Bugpowder: S.MPOE
maximian: specifically, do your web servers retain IP addresses, browser agent strings, etc
Bugpowder: ?
Bugpowder: looks like its oversold
Bugpowder: no, just a likely 15% return within a week.
Bugpowder: ;;calc .0007/.00062
gribble: 1.12903225806
Bugpowder: 13%
mircea_popescu: maximian yeah, like normal apache does. the logs are purged periodically for space but the behaviour itself is not standardized.
Bugpowder: that is, if the .0007 does not sell through, which it probably will.
mircea_popescu: the judgement is that privacy-minded users are better server by proxy/vpn/tor/etc
maximian: right… I was just thinking it'd be a good idea to purge those regularly for anonymity
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't help you anyway, the isp prolly keeps logs i can't purge
maximian: true, but sometimes I get lazy :)
mircea_popescu: if it's a concern you should use a proxy
maximian: not a concern, just curious
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: it just didn't seem something where benefits could be obtained, so i didn't bother to specify it any particular way.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: why do you artifically create demand for trade data, btw (historical data).
mircea_popescu: i do ?!
thestringpuller: i'm sure anyone with the trade data could get more for it than it's truly worth due to you sealing executed trades from your end
kakobreklaa: how much u pay
kakobreklaa: ill start collecting :)
thestringpuller: ^- my point concisely :P
mircea_popescu: the idea is that someone should start a service offering all that.
mircea_popescu: mpex is about creating more or less the correct niching of the space
mircea_popescu: i don't want to be a broker, or a data provider, or a whatever myself. rather than try and do everything i'd much rather see a lot of people each do something.
mircea_popescu: certainly end up stronger that way (even if some fail along the way)
thestringpuller: certainly end up stronger that way (even if some fail along the way)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4143 @ 0.00062724 = 2.5987 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19257 @ 0.00062866 = 12.1061 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: oops
thestringpuller: With that logic the data provider would have to be someone from the beta, how can I also trust their data is valid without your signature?
mircea_popescu: as soon as someone thinks the data is actually valuable, the service will exist
mircea_popescu: before anyone thinks the data is valuable, the data is not valuable.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00062044 = 3.5986 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: that still doesn't answer the concern of validity
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7003 @ 0.00062866 = 4.4025 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1083 @ 0.00063142 = 0.6838 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00063272 = 0.5062 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12214 @ 0.00063409 = 7.7448 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: now that's a point.
mircea_popescu: i guess it'd work like ripple, by consensus ?
mircea_popescu: seems bulky to sign each rss item...
thestringpuller: certainly, but you are the only one who can _initially_ guarentee validity of the "first copy"
thestringpuller: guarantee*
mircea_popescu: what's wrong with observers guaranteeing each other what they saw, this way checking me ?
mircea_popescu: bah all that nonsense eskimoblob spam drowned out freemoney joining, and i wanted to talk to him
mircea_popescu: see kids, this is why you don't feed the trolls.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 158 @ 0.00627403 = 0.9913 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: believer in relativity :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062045 = 0.6205 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5393 @ 0.00062044 = 3.346 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: just not centralising more than's needed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10664 @ 0.00062002 = 6.6119 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: "The lightning struck at 2:00PM", says the man on the train "No it struck at 2:05" says the man standing still.
mircea_popescu: "Technomadic Graphic Designer and Urban Artist accepting Bitcoins"
mircea_popescu: is that what they call bums now, tehcnonomadic ?
jurov: yes, bums with ipads
mircea_popescu: mo ipads mo problems
Lyspooner: when do you think that jgarzik spent 1299 on an avalon ASIC instead of buying 1299 worth of coins?
mircea_popescu: good q.
mircea_popescu: seeing how no way that pos paid for itself by now.
mircea_popescu: what he means is, it generated 1300 dollart's worth of coins at today's price or w/e
Lyspooner: well sure, but the audience soon forgets what else he could have done with that money
mircea_popescu: indeed
Lyspooner: he'll probably end up ahead anyways, but just sayin
mircea_popescu: prolly yeah.
mircea_popescu: Network total 26.180 Thash/s still
Namworld: there was a bit of growth
mircea_popescu: Namworld vairance tho
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.0007 = 0.0028 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00062434 = 7.055 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1611 @ 0.00062354 = 1.0045 BTC [-]
Namworld: yeah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 842 @ 0.00627403 = 5.2827 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00627404 = 5.3329 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00639156 = 6.3916 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00639157 = 3.1958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00639157 = 3.1958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00639158 = 6.3916 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00639999 = 6.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 17808 @ 0.0064 = 113.9712 BTC [+]
maximian: a rare s.dice movement is spotted!
Ukto: just following my prediction heh
mircea_popescu: cool.
Ukto: only 44k left un 0.007
Ukto: dont claim my whaleship :(
Ukto: was my btc yo
Ukto: oh snap
Ukto: there he is
Ukto: Now you can tell him to his face.
Ukto: >,>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00062378 = 7.3606 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 928 @ 0.00063409 = 0.5884 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5377 @ 0.00062354 = 3.3528 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062003 = 0.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7536 @ 0.00062002 = 4.6725 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1487 @ 0.00061951 = 0.9212 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14056 @ 0.00061951 = 8.7078 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7144 @ 0.0006192 = 4.4236 BTC [-]
error4733: camo ?
mircea_popescu: whaleship lmao
mircea_popescu: i spent like 10 bux on dried prunes. these things are delicious i swear.
Ukto: doesnt sound like it. :P
Ukto: afk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00062079 = 4.0351 BTC [+]
Namworld: Anyone got S.BBET for sale?
error4733: you forgot "for cheap"
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0064 = 0.0192 BTC [+]
mod6: isn't 159900 a sale?
Namworld: No need for it to be cheap
mod6: its an ask at least. go nuts :)
Namworld: nope... people were exiting as low as 30000 not long ago
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74 @ 0.00062079 = 0.0459 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4990 @ 0.00063409 = 3.1641 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5402 @ 0.00063466 = 3.4284 BTC [+]
Namworld: 159900 is ridiculously expensive
mod6: lol then put up a bid for god sake
mod6: s/god//
Namworld: I put bids for fuck sake
Namworld: Why can't I ask?
mod6: ask all you like
mod6: *shrug*
Namworld: just checking how much people want
jurov: maybe someone can lend you (i can't, don't have any)
jurov: ask smickles
jurov: if you're so firmly convinced it's overpriced
mod6: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0003 / 0.00091228 / 0.0015999 (20800 shares, 18.98 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00144935 / 0.002 (369427 shares, 535.43 BTC)
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.0063 = 0.0189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 318 @ 0.001599 = 0.5085 BTC [+]
mod6: :]
Namworld: It is. Everyone was surprised it reached such high price
mod6: its a pretty big gap between .0015 and .0005, so you could bid anything in between and just see if you can get them discounted that way.
jurov: maybe....until whales discover it
mircea_popescu: it's a humomgo gap srsly.
mircea_popescu: looks almost like mmorpg store pricing
mircea_popescu: "buy sword 1 gold, sell sword 8 gold"
Ukto: https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.BBET
Ukto: >,>
Namworld: Those fuckin merchants
jurov: ;;calc 5000*0.001150
gribble: 5.75
mod6: Looking at the statement for jan, it had like 206 accepted. that was pretty awesome for first mo. imho!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 182 @ 0.001599 = 0.291 BTC [+]
jurov: Ukto / DeaDTerra, where did the ask vanish?
jurov: almost snatched it
mircea_popescu: wasn't bad for 1st month at all.
mod6: march will have some good sporting ones for sure.
Ukto: ?
Ukto: there is an ask up
mod6: college basketball etc..
mircea_popescu: yeah
jurov: ukto, there was one for 0.001150 previously you scumbags
Ukto: 0,o
Ukto: dont look at me
Ukto: i am not pulling the strings on that puppet
Ukto: :P
Ukto: lo
Ukto: l
jurov: now it's 0.001950 . screw DeaDTerra.
jurov: he really thinks someone will buy at such a price?
Ukto: hmm
mircea_popescu: anything may happen on the passthroughs
Ukto: cant say I wouldnt try
jurov: you!
mod6: oh I also saw that some guy put a sharpie in his ass for like 10 BTC
mod6: i just about died -- it was pretty gnarly.
jurov: pfft. i'm withdrawing from bf and going elsewhere atm.
Ukto: gj terra
mod6: i didn't expect balls when i opened the blog post for whatever reason lol
mod6: :3
mircea_popescu: mod6 btc rules.
mod6: haha, indeed sir.
mircea_popescu: jurov moving to havelock ?
Ukto: lol
jurov: DeaDTerra i'll send eskimobob for you! such manipulation!
Ukto: LOL
Ukto: dood, thats too much
Ukto: dont make horrid threats like that
Ukto: :P
mircea_popescu: wait was it usagi who hired eskimo to threadcrap and didn't pay them or was it the other way around ?
mircea_popescu: or no wait, they hired someone else ?
Ukto: PsychoticBoy: i got one, how much?
Ukto: :P
Ukto: i figure i can buy her back cheaper later
Ukto: >:P~
jurov: in fact i did more serious pricing typos myself when idiff launched... but 0.001150 seemed like completely reasonable lauch discount
jurov: water under bridge. good luck deadTerra.
error4733: link for the bbet result ?
Ukto: on BF?
Ukto: :P
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/bitbet-january-2013-statement
Ukto: shh
error4733: thank mp
mircea_popescu: my pleasure
mircea_popescu: cause i'm perverted like that.
jurov: mircea_popescu at least you don't offer your mother for shorting (or you do?)
mircea_popescu: my mother is tall, like me.
Ukto: ---
Ukto: -_-
Ukto: afk, bed
error4733: i miss something ? or bbet made a wonderful 6 btc profit ?
mircea_popescu: error4733 about there.
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0099 = 0.0198 BTC [+]
Namworld: BBET made a 6 BTC profit
error4733: 6.8 sry
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.0064 = 6.72 BTC [+]
error4733: so ffs why do you want buy some
Namworld: I want more at a reasonable price
Namworld: at current 50000 bid, would take 735 months with such monthly profits
error4733: still better than BFL
Namworld: Still needs to be reduced by a factor 10
ThickAsThieves: bbet needs someone creating interesting bets more often
ThickAsThieves: i dont think most people wanna create a bet
ThickAsThieves: so much as chime in on one
ThickAsThieves: when I surf it now, i'm like meh
mod6: and a twitter feed on new bets maybe?! :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00062313 = 3.3026 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: Namworld: your auction thread
mircea_popescu: error4733 if you look through it, it took ~1600 btc in bets and the profits are only on the 400 closed in jan
Diablo-D3: Namworld: post in it how much time is left to spook more bids
mircea_popescu: in the ~week since then it took another 800 or so
Namworld: I told mircea, make it automated that sporting event gets bet
mircea_popescu: so it has some potential of revenue
mircea_popescu: Namworld i'd so much rather have people promote selected events themselves
ThickAsThieves: whats the most popular "real" betting site?
pigeons: etrade.com
error4733: depend your country
ThickAsThieves: oh i thought it was bet.com, thx pigeons
error4733: bwin n1 in EU
pigeons: treasury.gov
mircea_popescu: actually i would guess that may be a decent way to earn a btc.
error4733: yes if you know some people from honk hong
error4733: 8M euro
pigeons: honkies
error4733: earning
Namworld: mircea, would be better with categories, would require op tho
error4733: the cops here just stop a big mafia on football
error4733: 400 match
ThickAsThieves: it also looks bad when so many bets are for .01 btc
Namworld: It could automatically create a bet for each match in certain sports and automatically attribute the winnings
ThickAsThieves: need a bitbet "whale"
ThickAsThieves: or "fluffer"
mircea_popescu: there's bets of 100s of btc
mircea_popescu: buncha in the double digit range too
ThickAsThieves: i know, but many seem to be tiny
mircea_popescu: well yeah
mircea_popescu: nature of the beast i guess, most people bet small.
mod6: but, see, .01 is a lot!! that 1 million satoshi
Namworld: and people would have categories such as NFL, NHL, etc
ThickAsThieves: i'm not complaining, just thinking about user perspective
mircea_popescu: Namworld you could do it automatically, but i'd much rather people did it.
ThickAsThieves: def need better category filtering
Namworld: Seems like it would work better with categories and automated system
mircea_popescu: prolly need better categories sure
Namworld: Might be a bit hard to find what you want otherwise
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 7 @ 0.56 = 3.92 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: tho the search works so in effect any word can be a category
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 42 @ 0.0064 = 0.2688 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i bet against Mila Kunis winning FHM