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mp_en_viaje: very much a turkey dollar problem. everyone's rich in jam tomorrow, jam today on ration card.
asciilifeform: physical economy hits wall, and yet some folx still want to 'financier', offer 'jam tomorrow' (despite no supply of jam even today, much less any reason to think will arrive tomorrow) , imho it aint happenstance that good % of konsoomer spare change in '90s ru went to 'mmm' & other pyramids, somehow lotsa folx eager to share in the delusion
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how would you account for the diff ? (i.e. egyptian orc has his 'jam tomorrow' receptors safely plugged by koran ? or how. why not as susceptible to 'betterfutureism'..? )
mircea_popescu: "jam -- tomorrow"
trinque: this is jam-tomorrow in asciilifeform's parlance eh?
mircea_popescu: place's been coming in a big way since the 1859 gold find put it on the map, and throughout this century and a half it never ammounted to more than high rents and jam tomorrow.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-10#1565224 << jam, as we learn in kindergarten, happened yesterday, and will happen again -- tomorrow. but not today. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
mircea_popescu: not that there aren't a precious few competent folk out there. but they suffer a heavy demographic burden in the form of idiot us sucking them in to "build companies" and go to conferences and waste their lives for belonging&jam-tomorrow ; and the rest are fucking busy raping nsa and such.
asciilifeform: because that's where orcish quislings get (or at least in imagination, in jam-tomorrow promise) retired to.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
mircea_popescu: if not for hope, how would the jam-tomorrow socialism exist.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492583 << actually that happened in the 90s. all the jam tomorrow "web as a business" "venture capital" bs is exactly that - pivoting to try and survive the situation where consumers don't have money. pretend data is valuable and someone cares, pretend advertising is a business, get people to "invest" in this nonsense, it's a thing. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: yes, but jam today lulz tomorrow
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
mircea_popescu: jam tomorrow, nail today, while we pretend jam today nail tomorrow.
asciilifeform: i thought that was a standard 'jam tomorrow'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: $10. but available as jam-tomorrow victory bondz from usg, naturally.
asciilifeform: the notion i was trying to get at is that presently existing units were financed on 100% 'jam tomorrow'
asciilifeform: it is conceivable the the entire ic age has been fueled by a continuously-rolling 'jam tomorrow' bezzle
ascii_field: even if, on some distant tomorrow, we get this jam,
mircea_popescu: what, jam tomorrow, maybe one day ima get gossipd over udp, perhaps, who knows ? meanwhile half the remaining usg online is BASED, and requires udp to survive at all ?
asciilifeform: and i mean ~genuine~ catastrophe, not 'jam tomorrow' like the opm thing
asciilifeform: 'jam tomorrow'
asciilifeform: hence 'jam tomorrow'
ascii_modem: aha, the normal deal is straight classical 'jam tomorrow'
asciilifeform: jurov: the particular example, 'gossip', ~is~ jam tomorrow, yes. but it is possible to run encrypted tunnels of various sorts even today.
jurov: jam tomorrow
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-06-2015#1180430 << another worthy direction yes. << not jam tomorrow, then? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: (or is that another "jam tomorrow"?)
asciilifeform: asking node to accept maybe-verifiable-as-not-rubbish-tomorrow is a jam-tomorrow.
assbot: Logged on 05-06-2015 00:42:31; asciilifeform: mod6: he rebroadcasts until finds a node that can accept it without 'jam tomorrow'
mircea_popescu: and yes the trillion spent also means five people got two billion a pop give or take to be paraded across the country with a large jam tomorrow sign affixed.
mircea_popescu: jam - tomorrow. today, this.
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
asciilifeform: mod6: he rebroadcasts until finds a node that can accept it without 'jam tomorrow' ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 21:27:33; asciilifeform: i don't even apprehend why this 'jam tomorrow' nonsense was even in there in the first place.
asciilifeform: i don't even apprehend why this 'jam tomorrow' nonsense was even in there in the first place. ☟︎
ascii_field: promised them the "pearl in heavens" << aka 'jam tomorrow'
ascii_panama: 'jam tomorrow' ad infinitum.
asciilifeform: ancient device of immortality 'jam tomorrow' promise
asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: alice in the looking-glass, famously is offered 'jam tomorrow and jam yesterday -- but never jam today.'
asciilifeform: as far as i could tell, the thing is/was some combo of a usg honeypot and straight 'jam tomorrow, not today' chumpatron.