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asciilifeform: incidentally, seems like asciilifeform is not the 1st or the 100th to think of this : turned up that in ru, from early 2000s, and entirely unrelated to the hyped 'elbrus' & co, they've been making rad-hard realtime box 'baget' on mips1.
mp_en_viaje: "what do you think about Elbrus?" inane bs. ye olde habit of sitting on ass and talking things, while waiting patiently for world to come to his terms. whatever, epiphenomena of overabundance.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 19:57 bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909490 << speaking of which, http://archive.is/pEMWM ; also, i guess elbrus-2 (~1985) and besm-6 are still running
asciilifeform: i dun expect to ever get hands on a complete elbrus-2 or etc.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 19:57 bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909490 << speaking of which, http://archive.is/pEMWM ; also, i guess elbrus-2 (~1985) and besm-6 are still running
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909490 << speaking of which, http://archive.is/pEMWM ; also, i guess elbrus-2 (~1985) and besm-6 are still running ☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform observes that 6y after snowdenism, ru still runs on winblowz, the mythical 'elbrus' still ~unobtainable (and likely the demo units run poettering-linux) , etc
asciilifeform: 'elbrus' can get in dreams only.
asciilifeform: lol 'can overclock elbrus ?'
amberglint: do you know that Elbrus has a youtube channel for some reason? it's pretty strange: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6pnRoVljXKpo5bgkVyQMJg
amberglint: oddly enough, there's a university textbook on Elbrus, no instruction set there either: http://www.mcst.ru/doc/book_121130.pdf
asciilifeform: rather like elbrus.
amberglint: the lead designer of the VLIW Elbrus was later hired away by Intel
asciilifeform: old elbrus
amberglint: the Elbrus designers can count as native, no?
a111: 94 results for "elbrus", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=elbrus
asciilifeform: !#s elbrus
asciilifeform: i ( and iirc mircea_popescu also once ) tried to buy 'elbrus' also, 0dice
asciilifeform to this day has failed to buy even 1 , it is almost as rare as 'elbrus'
asciilifeform: elsewhere : https://ok.ru/video/387389133217 << elbrus 'unboxing film'.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-15 22:52 asciilifeform: incidentally, re elbrus sparc, asciilifeform is reminded of a historic megamystery : why is it that sovblok incandescent bulbs, lasted for approx same time as western ones ? despite the latter's ( documented to my satisfaction ) philips cartel , and the absence of any such thing on su side ?
asciilifeform: incidentally, re elbrus sparc, asciilifeform is reminded of a historic megamystery : why is it that sovblok incandescent bulbs, lasted for approx same time as western ones ? despite the latter's ( documented to my satisfaction ) philips cartel , and the absence of any such thing on su side ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-15 19:45 BingoBoingo: phf: If I remember right Elbrus was a SPARC64 y entonces likely missing an ASM instruction useful for FFA with speed
a111: Logged on 2018-01-15 20:13 phf: from elsewhere, i've read that elbrus compiler stack (for an unobtanium chip) is completely closed source
phf: from elsewhere, i've read that elbrus compiler stack (for an unobtanium chip) is completely closed source ☟︎
BingoBoingo: phf: If I remember right Elbrus was a SPARC64 y entonces likely missing an ASM instruction useful for FFA with speed ☟︎
phf: yeah, i wonder where elbrus is fabbed (in before ascii's "fabbed in financial instrument papers only!1")
asciilifeform: ru, for instance, pointedly ~did~ gabriel_laddelize the elbrus.
BingoBoingo: Email to Elbrus folk sent
BingoBoingo: Ah, Elbrus, let me find an email
a111: Logged on 2017-11-25 01:37 fromloper: hi everyone. I've heard that some people here are interested in Elbrus hardware, so I brought you this announcement: https://pp.userapi.com/c840421/v840421325/27721/jhAYzDMy5ms.jpg
fromloper: basically that, I'm following Elbrus' PR
fromloper: hi everyone. I've heard that some people here are interested in Elbrus hardware, so I brought you this announcement: https://pp.userapi.com/c840421/v840421325/27721/jhAYzDMy5ms.jpg ☟︎
asciilifeform: either way, it helps us not a whit, these items dun seem to be any moar obtainable than 'elbrus'.
asciilifeform: it's what the ru elbrus folx ripped off for elbrus.
asciilifeform: apparently entire ru 'infosec' budget bought, waht, a few 100 elbrus. if that.
asciilifeform: 'Servers belonging to the ministry were not infected on account of the use of alternative operating system and natively produced servers using the ru elbrus cpu'
mircea_popescu: o hey, check it out, elbrus running java.
asciilifeform: though, further twist -- the ~original~ elbrus was a spiffy superscalar machine that actually beat usa state of the art at the time (cdc)
asciilifeform: (elbrus et al)
mircea_popescu: you recall, the elbrus salesman
asciilifeform: i suspect that if either baikal or elbrus ~existed~ in commercially relevant qtys, it would handily corner the 'fuck cisco and usg crapolade' market worldwide
asciilifeform: presently i'm not convinced that 'baikal' cpu exists -- experience suggests that it's an elbrus, a small handful of physical items for ru army and a large stack of imaginary bezzle cpus which actually turned into swiss gold and florida mansions for various scum instead of into cpu
asciilifeform: or is it another elbrus.
asciilifeform: had (surprisingly to some folx) the first 'elbrus', quite competitive with cray1
mircea_popescu: same as elbrus yes.
mircea_popescu: anyway. maybe new elbrus brings ofw back.
asciilifeform: china is 'black box' -- i for instance have genuinely nfi whether they nixed their equiv. of 'elbrus', or merely hid it. (and i know of nobody showing any symptom of publicly having half a clue re subj)
trinque: I had a dream last night where I was in russia at some diplomatic event, and I was drinking with Putin and asked him about the Elbrus
asciilifeform: and why even the advertised elbrus sits on 100% taiwanese chipset.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not really clear to me , from here, that comeback is genuine. consider: where is 'elbrus'.
asciilifeform: aha some don't walk. there was a photo leaked of a radar base, where they had one of the few completed elbrus. in the corner desk there was what looked like winblows. nfi, could be hangout, perhaps the 'indigenous base' happened, strictly in ru meta-nsa.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-29#1560126 << what didja think he used, mircea_popescu , elbrus ? ☝︎
pete_dushenski: russians win 'how to make effective artillery brigade' race then 'how to make spaceship' race then 'how to make strongman' race. next ? 'how to make elbrus' race ?
asciilifeform: is elbrus 'also there' ?
asciilifeform: trinque: it is unobtainable. like elbrus.
shinohai: I am convinced that asciilifeform is really just some sort of AI comprised of Elbrus chips.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://geektimes.ru/post/269914 << re where 'elbrus' went.
asciilifeform: well they only made, iirc, 200 'elbrus-2' (which were cray-2 sized and shaped)
asciilifeform: reportedly thing is plugged into a real live 'elbrus-2'.
mircea_popescu: no i meant - if something being more vapor than elbrus were possible
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://milandr.ru << can source any of this? or vapour, like elbrus ?
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> http://geektimes.ru/post/268128 << baikal electronics corp. claims $60 mips cpu to compete with 'elbrus' (which i have been unable to buy at any price on this side of the ocean) << they don't practically exist, on either side of ocean. so far all signs point to "elaborate ru.gov self-scam"
ascii_field: http://geektimes.ru/post/268128 << baikal electronics corp. claims $60 mips cpu to compete with 'elbrus' (which i have been unable to buy at any price on this side of the ocean)
ascii_field: for all i know, it is a '90s-style chumpatron like the last elbrus !
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: i do not know for a fact that elbrus was made.
pete_dushenski: if russia has the economy to make elbrus, which can presumable keep the blockchain, seems odd that china can't
pete_dushenski: and who knows if 'elbrus' can be believed.
ascii_field: modern ru was - if we are to believe elbrus co. - just barely able to make a handful of 'pentium 1'-equiv. items.
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 01:09:04; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i will point out that i have not been able to locate an elbrus, nor has, last i asked, mircea_popescu, nor anyone else i know
asciilifeform: the hilarious part re: elbrus - given ~only~ the published material - is that it has standard chinese peripherals, on memory-mapped i/o...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: given as the whole purpose of elbrus, to the extent it had one, is to be a non-nato computer
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i will point out that i have not been able to locate an elbrus, nor has, last i asked, mircea_popescu, nor anyone else i know ☟︎
BingoBoingo: http://www.itworld.com/article/2954835/oracle-preps-sonoma-chip-for-lowpriced-sparc-servers.html << possibly related to Elbrus revival
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Anyone have a single Elbrus ARM-401 for sale? Mebbe a 4.4 Server? It’s for the children. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/12/anyone-have-a-single-elbrus-arm-401-for-sale-mebbe-a-4-4-server-its-for-the-children/
ascii_field: for those who did not watch the 'elbrus' youtube (did anyone ?) - if the screenshots are genuine , we now know that one core of 'elbrus' has approximately same benchmark performance as 'pogo.'
scoopbot_revived: Anyone have a single Elbrus ARM-401 for sale? Mebbe a 4.4 Server? It's for the children. http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/12/anyone-have-a-single-elbrus-arm-401-for-sale-mebbe-a-4-4-server-its-for-the-children/
mircea_popescu: it's just elbrus for the rest of us.
ascii_field: http://www.mcst.ru/files/523816/aa0cd8/50cb4e/000010/news_121229_2.jpg << small elbrus. also unobtainable afaik
mircea_popescu: anyway, you KNOW most elbrus will be running excel in govt offices. so yes.
ascii_field: elbrus advertised retail is ~4kusd
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: buy elbrus ... << ru corps only is the advertised offer
mircea_popescu: ascii_field wait, so you're not gonna write an inquiry to the elbrus folks ?
ascii_field: (and there is claimed x86 dynamic translation, a la apple ppc. so it may yet turn out that most 'elbrus' will end up running winblowsxp...)
ascii_field: elbrus for many decades (yes) had reputation not entirely unlike 'butterfly labs' or what was it.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: mebbe you can trade that astonmartin for an 'elbrus'
pete_dushenski: but yes, is this elbrus isn't sufficiently magical, then it makes as much sense as buying 10,000 apple watches
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 16:56:47; pete_dushenski: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/11/allrussian_elbrus_pcs_and_servers_go_on_sale/ << it's a great day for alf!
assbot: 13 results for 'elbrus' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=elbrus
pete_dushenski: !s elbrus
pete_dushenski: "The Server Elbrus 4.4 is a four-socket affair and four of the machines fit into a 1U chassis. Gigabit ethernet, SATA and plenty of PCI slots connect it to other kit and the rest of the worlds."
pete_dushenski: "The Elbrus ARM-401 PC is a minitower packing a version of Linux also called Elbrus and boasts four USB 2.0 ports, a PCI-express slot, gigabit ethernet and not much more."
pete_dushenski: "The Elbrus 4c used in the PCs and servers is said to support two instruction sets: very long instruction word and SPARC."
assbot: All-Russian 'Elbrus' PCs and servers go on sale • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1KB6Txg )
pete_dushenski: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/11/allrussian_elbrus_pcs_and_servers_go_on_sale/ << it's a great day for alf! ☟︎
asciilifeform: i expect to purchase a 'fluxbabbitt' before i ever so much as touch an 'elbrus.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did they ever come out wiht the elbrus 8s ?
asciilifeform: straight to 'elbrus' then
asciilifeform: as ru did with 'elbrus'
asciilifeform: and regardless of what the nintendo proggy does, cannot crash the elbrus