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mats: in regular practice i'm uncertain how to masquerade as prb without running a heathen node and plugging trb into that
asciilifeform: trinque: the 1 common thread in asciilifeform's lab notes from birth of trb to today, is that once they fall behind, they stay behind, until reset. (often more than one reset.)
trinque: I was brief on details because I fully expected that others are seeing the same behavior with the trb nodes they maintain. public indexes of nodes report that just about every single one is far behind.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 05:23 trinque: for now, I can report that setting the version number to 50400, a trb node will catch back up, txns will unstick.
trinque: it is not as though I restarted the trb node once, said "oh ok, worx nao"
a111: Logged on 2017-03-04 00:52 asciilifeform: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=makefiles#1364 and http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=makefiles#1735 are the only times a trb node asks for blocks explicitly from peer
asciilifeform: aside from brief period at bootup, a trb node DOES NOT TRY TO SYNC AT ALL, passively waits for someone to come and feed it. forever.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-23 13:09 asciilifeform: the reason why mike_c's node appears 'stalled' is that it stopped fetching blocks. trb's block sync behaviour is unspeakably moronic, it will attempt 'long sync' ONCE, on warmup
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 05:20 trinque: the version number appears to be a factor which ends up isolating trb nodes, hypothesis being that the version number being set high invites nodes to insult the malleus patch.
trinque: for now, I can report that setting the version number to 50400, a trb node will catch back up, txns will unstick. ☟︎
trinque: the version number appears to be a factor which ends up isolating trb nodes, hypothesis being that the version number being set high invites nodes to insult the malleus patch. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 02:17 ben_vulpes: phf: well i'd like to get something out of trb that i can dump into a txrelayulator
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 02:17 ben_vulpes: phf: well i'd like to get something out of trb that i can dump into a txrelayulator
ben_vulpes: phf: well i'd like to get something out of trb that i can dump into a txrelayulator ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, does anyone know how to beat a trb into coughing up the actual raw transaction it sent?
asciilifeform: quite heavy compared to even, say, trb.
trinque: must be organ-chopping week. first trb wallet, now musl dynloader and gcc linker
trinque: analogous to trb deps folder
asciilifeform: btw some very large share of 'no can haz trb, plz help' in the logs to date, feature shituntu
asciilifeform: pretty sure that mod6 hosts a curl, at trb www
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754912 << sorta-kinda on topic, i attempted a trb install in the field last week, was *thrilled* to discover curl doesn't ship with ubuntu 10.04 (?!) ☝︎
asciilifeform: fact is, trb sync is ragingly retarded. as in , microshit-level.
asciilifeform contemplates placing trb on ramdisk on this box
asciilifeform: but the results ( at least in asciilifeform's torture room ) have been disappointing, currently afaik nobody even knows why bdb ignores locks knob ( perma-hosing trb ) !! under bsd
mircea_popescu: trb-as for anti-sybil.
trinque awakes to see a trb node with wallet excised, synced to 200k
asciilifeform: and 4G typically suffices to run trb 'year-round'.
asciilifeform: btw asciilifeform will reveal that he found a 'new' (to him) and very spiffy type of amd g-series box , suitable for trb and similar
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 04:09 trinque: obviously I'm looking into it, but I would like to hear what other people are seeing on their trb nodes.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1753954 << i have up to date nodes ; both trb and legacy. but the phenomena described is recurrent since at least 18 months ago. ☝︎
trinque: obviously I'm looking into it, but I would like to hear what other people are seeing on their trb nodes. ☟︎
trinque: mats pointed out to me that all trb nodes he can see appeared to be consistently 50 blocks or more behind.
trinque noticing extremely fucky behavior around sending transactions with trb over the last few days at least.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-28 05:40 asciilifeform: [BTC-dev] (CRACKPOTTERY) Notes re: one possible "TRB-I".
asciilifeform: nominally libc doesn't go in a gnat-baked elf, so it isn't quite the same urgency as musltronic gcc-for-trb was
asciilifeform: ( trb-genesis, for better or worse, was a plain cut of the original material. ended up preserving the idiocy of empty file. )
asciilifeform: take for instance trb , as seen in http://btcbase.org/patches/genesis/file
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:11 mod6: For other non-trb projects, perhaps the author can designa how that should work.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:11 mod6: For other non-trb projects, perhaps the author can designa how that should work.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751186 <<< Recall, mod6 that you and I discussed this but may have been im PM. I hard-baked sdf and localhost servers in your V and it built trb fine ☝︎
mod6: For other non-trb projects, perhaps the author can designa how that should work. ☟︎☟︎
mod6: Hm. Well, depends on which project I suppose. For trb, one can send such signatures of pre-existing vpatches to the ML, whereby I can scoop them up and place them in the Foundation's repository as needed.
shinohai: mircea_popescu trb nod twattles ... perfect terminology
trinque: yep, trb node with the mighty banhammer vpatch
asciilifeform: where the linkage was ~not~ mechanically clear, because it appeared merely as a set of external symbols inside trb, rather than a proper lift of the files
asciilifeform: diana_coman: pretty sure it is same as mod6 has on trb www
asciilifeform: interestingly , this item was the 2nd thing asciilifeform ever genesised ( http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-October/000175.html ) . 1st was trb.
BingoBoingo: Well, when discussing trb on Openbsd we are talking something that spans 5.5-ish and ends no later than 6.1
asciilifeform: ( aside from some obsolete matter on trb ml )
asciilifeform: asciilifeform is also in the process of standing up trb on dulap-III , an opteron monster not yet homed.
asciilifeform: also notably, mircea_popescu , yer trb box was the champ medallist, outlived even dulap.
asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu re 46.166.160.36 / http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html : is that box still around ? because if it is, yer trb is hung
asciilifeform: but will note that, e.g., trb, builds cleanly on e.g. arm ( and iirc ppc also )
asciilifeform: or could be >0, depending on whether e.g. having trb around, is worth +
asciilifeform: all trb boxen where log wasn't cut off, have day-by-day, neh
a111: Logged on 2017-08-19 00:13 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG panzers!! trb node 'zoolag' is back in business, this time as ordinary linux box -- syncing from 0 . same ip as prev.
mod6: I've updated the trb-howto guide to include 'curl' in the list of required binaries / packages ; Thanks to whaack for pointing out the glaring omission there.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-24 01:27 whaack: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/NDfgM/?raw=true 4,512.058 btc sent to 1045 non-trb-recognizable outputs as determined by ben_vulpe's block slicer in block 495813. The paste shows (txn-hash output num-satoshis) for every bunk output.
whaack: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/NDfgM/?raw=true 4,512.058 btc sent to 1045 non-trb-recognizable outputs as determined by ben_vulpe's block slicer in block 495813. The paste shows (txn-hash output num-satoshis) for every bunk output. ☟︎
shinohai: i just introduced them to trb
asciilifeform: mod6: trb ml was really not imho the proper place for it: mpi is not used in trb
trinque: nope, have several improvements to the paybot (and cutting off the trb wallet) ahead of that
asciilifeform: spyked: musl however worx great, trb stands on it. and iirc trinque has an entire musltronic gentoo.
spyked: shinohai, pretty good. gentoo diddling. I'm trying to get a new box up, learn v, compile trb, add an ada in, learn lisp internals ... (the list continues)
shinohai: Current setup will build Eulora and trb like a dream, with nary a barf like I experienced in my old deb days
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 05:19 lobbes: Currently going down the headless-browser path ben_vulpes suggested. Looking into phantomjs atm, which seems like it could do the job. I have an old craptop I'm thinking of using as the proverbial 'public toilet' to house it on. (This is the same craptop I was planning to put a trb node on. I put a spanking-new ssd in there but then realized that the ethernet dun work anymore; wifi only. May be a good use for the thing to just be a turd server in
lobbes: Currently going down the headless-browser path ben_vulpes suggested. Looking into phantomjs atm, which seems like it could do the job. I have an old craptop I'm thinking of using as the proverbial 'public toilet' to house it on. (This is the same craptop I was planning to put a trb node on. I put a spanking-new ssd in there but then realized that the ethernet dun work anymore; wifi only. May be a good use for the thing to just be a turd server in ☟︎☟︎
shinohai: Ah yeah somehow I had forgotten that *DUH* is part of trb
asciilifeform: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html << grep for gcc
asciilifeform: you can produce this mechanically. the unfortunate bit is that it gives same problem as basing trb on original 5.3.1 tarball contents did
asciilifeform: and it's a perfectly legit ( manually ground, from mpi, just like trb genesis was from 0.5.3 ) genesis.
asciilifeform: hey i still to this day use jurov's system, whenever submitting trb patch.
asciilifeform: same way we avoid gavinization of trb, for instance.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-11 18:52 asciilifeform does not currently have even 1 up-to-top trb node !
asciilifeform: if yer disk is too small to rotate debug.log by hand 1-2x/year, it is too small to run trb !!
asciilifeform does not currently have even 1 up-to-top trb node ! ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Seems to be where a lot of TRB nodes are shown stalled.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 18:42 mircea_popescu: merv, or generally the mongol reduction of persia from a coupla million to a coupla hundred thousand is the fundamental civilisational act. not the building of the scum, but the purging of it. much like "writing prb" is not an achievement in computer science ; but purging it into trb is.
shinohai: https://blockchain.info/address/13Do2uy94HMBy1SuAYP7rbGA9s3ZbnJG7f <<< this is clean trb addy, bitpay says "invalid address"
cruciform: currently building TRB node
concernedscaling: will try and get TRB node going later
shinohai: Navigating to http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html and building that would be a far, far better use of one's time as well.
mod6: i have a bunch of trb work queued up too -- need to put some effort into that next few weeks.
shinohai: Well my values are different than most. Ownership of the box alone justifies trb node, which is worthy of a total of 0,16 BTC
asciilifeform: sooner turn pig into a professor of mathematics, than cpp trb into sanity.
mircea_popescu: trinque you won't be able to fix trb into sanity without new classes.
mircea_popescu: mod6 in any case don't completely abandon the trb-v castle, you're like our last guy there i fear
trinque: asciilifeform: there's no hot wallet here; I'm marching my ass over to another box and making signed tx, then popping into a trb with polarbeard patch for sendrawtransaction
asciilifeform: how would trb pay a 3, lol
asciilifeform: in other lulz, something closely resembling trb node on ex-dulap ( 46.166.165.30 ) still running... though i do not recommend it for any practical use
trinque: could see "hosted trb node with levers attached to bot" as a subscribable service.
trinque: trb wallet is a piece of shit. I have yet to build a full replacement, and that's going to take a while.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-10 05:23 pete_dushenski: 199.204.187.186 << newest trb infrastructure node also finally synced up this week. took better part of a month but "shadchan" is now online and eager to serve.
pete_dushenski: 199.204.187.186 << newest trb infrastructure node also finally synced up this week. took better part of a month but "shadchan" is now online and eager to serve. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is it working as intended, or is the result trb-like ( 'life support patient' ) ?
asciilifeform: like trb! ( but i'ma not repeat, because at this point everybody knows )
asciilifeform: ahhahaha exactlylike trb
asciilifeform: ugh sounds like trb
diana_coman: asciilifeform, no experimental changes/patches or anything, straight the build from http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 13:55 diana_coman: hi mod6, I've set up a public node running vanilla trb, at 103.36.92.112; it's still getting up to date so probably not of much use yet but it's meant to stay as it is anyway (it's at ~260k atm)