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BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: couldja plox add the billing calendar (with the hash-pseudonymised subscriber names from earlier) to the public www ? so folx dun have to ask why they're being billed at time t and for what << We have customer accounts here on the public www http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-records/ listed just below the price points. I have been updating it as part of compiling the statements. I don't recall if I pass out
BingoBoingo: Pizarro invoices sent based off the auction settled price point of 1 BTC = 3247 USD
BingoBoingo: jurov: My disinclination to committing to splitting chunks and putting them all up for auction here comes from those times the local liquidity is more generous than the grizzled veterans bidding here. For the two reasons of prudence with Pizarro's capital and the cause of continuing to spread Bitcoin's corruption... the local market can't be ignored.
mircea_popescu: that aside, i'm guessing i still supplied a large-ish chunk of pizarro's dubaloos in 2018. but anyway.
BingoBoingo: This update raises a serious issue in the lack of success I have had setting a price point at auction this month http://pizarroisp.net/2019/02/10/pizarro-isp-update-february-10th-2019/#selection-31.0-49.104 ☟︎
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/02/10/pizarro-isp-update-february-10th-2019/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro ISP Update February 10th, 2019
BingoBoingo: mod6: The closest computers have come to the promised "intelligence amplified" I have ever seen is when detailed error reports in this channel and less frequently #pizarro and #asciilifeform yield detailed feedback.
trinque: why did 10 days elapse without a clue entering the forum? this is the "lets do business in #pizarro" thing again
BingoBoingo: I am not comfortable being outside of a leisurley walk to the Pizarro Rack without coverage.
BingoBoingo: ^ Just under 21 hours left to bid in the Pizarro fiat buying auction
asciilifeform: and also http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-hosting-rate-sheet/
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/02/05/pizarro-january-2019-report/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro January 2019 Report
diana_coman: I suppose being "updates" you focused only on what changed in the week covered but A. it makes it very difficult to follow because there's no help to re-load Pizarro issues (maybe just a list of issues at the end with dates and carried over until issue fully addressed?) and B. if nothing happened on crucial issues, it's best to keep them pinging at least
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/02/03/pizarro-isp-update-february-3rd-2019/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro ISP Update February 3rd, 2019
mircea_popescu: failure or success in outreach, such as pizarro, is a larger factor than anything to do with the world, in that sense.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-02#1891425 << yeah, and amusingly the reason comes right around to pizarro customer acquisition files. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well, once pizarro gets a buncha customers toyota might be a good investment.
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/27/pizarro-update-january-27th-2019/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro Update January 27th 2019
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/21/pizarro-isp-update-january-21-2019/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro ISP Update January 21, 2019
asciilifeform: ( and before anyone loses appetite, this experiment was on a test box in torture room, not in pizarro )
BingoBoingo: If you have been using Pizarro shared hosting your IRC bouncer you are invited to stand up an IRC bouncer on my Rockchip as the vacant Rockchip appears to have failed.
mod6: ahem: *Pizarro
billymg: trinque: i made a deposit on sunday in order to cover my pizarro invoice but it's not showing up in my balance yet. i'm not in a hurry but curious about the status of it
mircea_popescu: "you should have gone with pizarro" "i did this in 2015, where was pizarro ?" "mkay."
mircea_popescu: PART of the reason for 2nd para of http://qntra.net/2019/01/el-chapo-allegedly-used-voip-had-sysadmin-flipped-by-criminal-fbi/ ie guzman hiring an inane moron with a reddit account, is that guzman didn't have how to hire pizarro.
BingoBoingo: It's a relief to get the Pizarro conversation going again instead of having it stuck in just my head
asciilifeform: a pizarro-sponsored flight must carry max weight.
mircea_popescu: i meant, pizarro made more money as a financial vehicle, exploiting fx rates, than as an operator.
mircea_popescu: b) the principal moneymaker for pizarro has been its booked stock of iron
asciilifeform: it is also time to speak of the next crate. and the customary four cargo slots. 1 is to contain a replacement for uy1 ( and ideally will run cuntoo . ) 1 will contain a 1u that holds rk's. this gives 2 1u slots remaining, they can be occupied by colo passengers, if these stand up and wish to ride , or pizarro irons, at BingoBoingo's option. ☟︎
asciilifeform: incidentally manifest actually includes 2 FG units ( pizarro-owned ) . i had to fly'em back in april , if anyone recalls, cuz of ben_vulpes's misadventure where they were pawed by orcs for whole night
a111: Logged on 2019-01-14 16:48 asciilifeform: after we get to the bottom of UY1 issue, i'ma make sure that all iron owned by pizarro has asciilifeform-baked kernel in place.
asciilifeform: ( can't speak for colo subscribers such as trinque , referring to pizarro irons )
mircea_popescu: so then as a factual matter, if asciilifeform threw out erry box that rebooted "by itself" for no apparent reason, pizarro would be missing uy1
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the one concerning bit is whether indeed pizarro still owns that box or not. << This very much concerns me
mircea_popescu: the one concerning bit is whether indeed pizarro still owns that box or not.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: The investigation is ongoing. Other than the chassis interor being marginally cleaner than before asciilifeform instrumented the machine, answers remain elusive. Per http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/14/pizarro-isp-update-january-14-2019/#selection-13.0-17.315 I am inclined to not charge any Pizarro shared hosting customers for the month of January though I am open to hearing other suggested remedies.
BingoBoingo: In other updates Pizarro www now has selection js in place when viewing individual blog entries
asciilifeform: achtung pizarro subscribers : if 1 of you is running saturation test on the pipe, plz nao & in future ~announce prior~, ty.
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/14/pizarro-isp-update-january-14-2019/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro ISP Update January 14, 2019
asciilifeform: incidentally i was not aware that UY1 uses grub (grub2 no less). grub is fatwa'd on pizarro-owned iron. i'ma correct this omission in a scheduled maintenance after we cure the moar pressing issue in re uy1.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al : also i am getting multi-second ping latencies to pizarro (all boxen)
asciilifeform: after we get to the bottom of UY1 issue, i'ma make sure that all iron owned by pizarro has asciilifeform-baked kernel in place. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Please deliver instructions in #pizarro as I don't know how much log troubleshooting is going to generate
mircea_popescu: re http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/ : leaving aside how annoying it is i can't select, and how it's the case trying to comment timesout : it seems the case pizarro ~made~ about 2 bitcoin during november, on the strength of its fiat-denominated holdings, taking it from being worth ~14 to being worth ~17 bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: re http://bingology.net/2019/01/11/more-lessons-learned-pizarro-entering-2019/#selection-51.13-51.130 specifically (ie, "no hardware to sell"), is this actually the case ? i thought there was some overcapacity
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 23:46 mircea_popescu: so ok, if mod6 is committed to the prev 5btc and asciilifeform meets it, what exactly is pizarro's financial problem ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if pizarro can say "talked to 985,553 heathens this month, here's the script, here's the results breakdown, here's the more interesting lulz/notions/ideas" it stands in a WAY the fuck better position than what trinque above perceived may well degenerate into a simple "gimme".
mircea_popescu: so ok, if mod6 is committed to the prev 5btc and asciilifeform meets it, what exactly is pizarro's financial problem ? ☟︎
trinque: if customers wont take the diminished capacity that's basically all else pizarro has that has (if very) hypothetical value
mircea_popescu: let them pay pizarro, nobody said they're gonna be making policy.
mircea_popescu: "my five year plan for pizarro is that by the time we're done with the first three it'll not be physically possible to do such a thing as 'host a website' anywhere else."\
mircea_popescu: the shaver shaves universally -- it's not one shaver for phf and a diff one shaver for pizarro.
diana_coman: trinque, for s.mg it's less straightforward and it's not even just a matter of backups only; at any rate, it's at best "starvation mode" so I don't see how it really gets pizarro out of trouble; so far it's not even clear that *price* is the trouble re converting really; is it?
diana_coman: ugh, why is pizarro's tech finding out this only now!
BingoBoingo: to work on the Pizarro marketing problem. Recently there have been some promising contacts from marketing efforts, but I haven't been converting yet.
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> how do you see that working before pizarro starves? << I worry. The more I think about the marketing and trying to make a plan for marketing I worry. I am in the unhappy position of being out of my depth on the marketing problem, repeating my concerns about my lack of marketing prowess, trying to apply advice as I can while juggling other concerns, and not getting any feedback on incentives that can bring other people in
diana_coman: could pizarro even get in the green just by reducing the pipe? sharing rack sounds more like killing pizarro by definition
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 16:45 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884603 << BingoBoingo i'd ~really~ like to hear what is current plan for gettin' heathen custom, so as to finally get the hell out of the red. asciilifeform dun have a massive treasure chest that can run pizarro 'on battery' 4evah (hopefully not surprising, this)
diana_coman: how do you see that working before pizarro starves?
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, specifically and a bit of follow-up on trinque's point above: pizarroisp.net/2019/01/ has this tiny paragraph starting with "action items" - was/is that fleshed out anywhere? << I flesh out Pizarro's situation here http://bingology.net/2019/01/11/more-lessons-learned-pizarro-entering-2019/ I am hoping to get feedback from the Pizarro board (asciilifeform and mod6) and this forum. trinque is the first person to
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, no select script on pizarro's blog? << I'll get it set up in the next couple days.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, specifically and a bit of follow-up on trinque's point above: pizarroisp.net/2019/01/ has this tiny paragraph starting with "action items" - was/is that fleshed out anywhere?
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, no select script on pizarro's blog?
BingoBoingo: trinque: Please continue to weigh in. The present lack of weighing in on Pizarro by the forum is concerning.
BingoBoingo: This may be the case. I am very wary about pursuing that avenue without the board and input from all major Pizarro customers.
trinque: BingoBoingo: in reading your latest, I'm curious what fallback plans you have in between pizarro as is today and pizarro shuttered.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 00:03 BingoBoingo: Attn: The Pizarro has rebooted, this was first noticed by mod6. A quick trip to the datacenter showed both power supplies were had their happy green lights lit, the ambient air was conditioned with cool everywhere outside the hot aisle, and the server's chassis was not particularly warm. attn: asciilifeform
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886446 -> this made me jump at first to check on S.MG's servers with Pizarro; BingoBoingo please make those announcements clear from the start as to what services precisely are/have been affected ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Attn: The Pizarro has rebooted, this was first noticed by mod6. A quick trip to the datacenter showed both power supplies were had their happy green lights lit, the ambient air was conditioned with cool everywhere outside the hot aisle, and the server's chassis was not particularly warm. attn: asciilifeform ☟︎
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/01/11/more-lessons-learned-pizarro-entering-2019/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- More Lessons Learned - Pizarro Entering 2019
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/06/pizarro-update-january-6th-2019-november-and-december-2018-statements/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro Update January 6th, 2019 - November and December 2018 Statements
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and without pizarro, it will be very very cold and dark and we'll be drifting in the unforgiving vacuum of interstellar space. << Today crunching monthly numbers. Followed on the agenda by reviewing 2018/putting forth tentative plan based on those lessons 2018
asciilifeform: and without pizarro, it will be very very cold and dark and we'll be drifting in the unforgiving vacuum of interstellar space.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 14:13 mircea_popescu: so : as far as i know, bingoBoingo is working on qntra and on pizarro. he's doing a very fine job with the former ; i'm nonplussed with recently discovering just how broken the latter's mp-wp offering actually was ; moreover it seems to me from a distance pizarro's still financially and customer-wise entirely dependent, ie as close to failure as you can possibly get without spelling it out.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884603 << BingoBoingo i'd ~really~ like to hear what is current plan for gettin' heathen custom, so as to finally get the hell out of the red. asciilifeform dun have a massive treasure chest that can run pizarro 'on battery' 4evah (hopefully not surprising, this) ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: yet -- it is not my business ; so i'm just going to count it as such, "working on pizarro" without further inquiry (and with the firm expectation that someone IS doing all that).
mircea_popescu: so : as far as i know, bingoBoingo is working on qntra and on pizarro. he's doing a very fine job with the former ; i'm nonplussed with recently discovering just how broken the latter's mp-wp offering actually was ; moreover it seems to me from a distance pizarro's still financially and customer-wise entirely dependent, ie as close to failure as you can possibly get without spelling it out. ☟︎
mod6: Yeah, I get the pizarro ip for both A and MX records. Just in case, I have posted the clearsigned report to my website for viewing: http://mod6.net/2018/December/31/btcf_address_201812.txt
BingoBoingo: dig shows the MX pointed at the foundation's Pizarro box from here
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 14:59 asciilifeform: diana_coman: looks like ml not yet moved to pizarro, it's still hosted wherever it was that jurov had it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: looks like ml not yet moved to pizarro, it's still hosted wherever it was that jurov had it ☟︎
BingoBoingo: ^ Attn bidders, Pizarro fiat Auction for January is live.
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2018/12/31/pizarro-update-december-31st/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro Update December 31st
BingoBoingo: <trinque> http://pizarroisp.net/2018/03/23/pizarro-shared-hosting-a-screaming-deal-for-0003-btcmo/ << also says here you'll provide a weechat << I'll add reading through the old posts to the to do list.
trinque: http://pizarroisp.net/2018/03/23/pizarro-shared-hosting-a-screaming-deal-for-0003-btcmo/ << also says here you'll provide a weechat
billymg: diana_coman: i loaded the necessary files into the patches/ .seals/ .wot directory structure and ran them through v.py (exact steps here: http://billymg.com/2018/10/the-complete-noobs-guide-to-setting-up-mp-wp-on-a-pizarro-rock-chip-server/)
BingoBoingo: mod6: With an annual subscription you get 10% off per http://pizarroisp.net/shared-hosting/ for 0.0216
mircea_popescu: mod6 BingoBoingo was saying something about getting a closer to original thing on pizarro
mod6: BingoBoingo: Can I get a wp-mp @ pizarro when you have some time, feel free to invoice me or whatever is right and proper.
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2018/12/24/pizarro-update-december-23rd/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro Update December 23rd
mircea_popescu likes the pizarro 32char pws.
mircea_popescu: and now im in the unenviable position of thinking about nonsense. look here asciilifeform : the man says http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881968 and what am i to do ? remember that you're one of the principal idiots who decided to run their pizarro process throgh a encryptospitball, and before that you came up with the brilliancy that was "secret clauses" in pizarro nearly got ben_vulpes beheaded. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i expect if attempted it'll immediately run into the same problem pizarro is encountering, whereas bois will do ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, no matter how patently stupid and laughing impending beheading in the face, just as long as it's NOT "talk to a lot of people". ☟︎
BingoBoingo: http://pizarroisp.net/shared-hosting/ << Updated, 10% discount on shared hosting for annual over monthly subscriptions now official
diana_coman: as it's all pizarro anyway I suppose you can just set up some testing if you want more details on that
mircea_popescu: hey BingoBoingo, is the mp-wp on pizarro's shared server broken or what ? i don't understand how http://archive.is/Bihzo#selection-111.0-115.1 is possible otherwise ?
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2018/12/09/weekly-update-december-9th-2018/ << PizarroISP -- Weekly Update December 9th 2018
BingoBoingo: ^ Only a few hours left to bid in this month's Pizarro auction
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878002 << o hallelujah! well so then great, ty Mocky_ & everyone involved, pizarro sitting pretty for once! ☝︎