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mp_en_viaje: is there some way the orig
pizarro shared blog box can be mirrored ?
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile i have the serious problem that my girls, who didn't feel "the need" to produce any articles for week upon week UPON WEEK of
pizarro working fine, now have major backlogs that can't get published
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Where to next if anywhere is background question versus the immediate concern of cleaning up the
Pizarro remains.
mp_en_viaje: back when sterile discussion that came to nothing re adding a hardware trade shop to
pizarro was going, maybe early 2018
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, well here discussed were
pizarro owned items.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 15:43:27 mp_en_viaje: consider also that, as far as anyone knew, working
pizarro was ~only avenue of resolving the "by large group" issue. yes, if
pizarro became 2020s digitalocean, then surely the demand on alf-sealed hw would have become such that alf... what ?
mp_en_viaje: consider also that, as far as anyone knew, working
pizarro was ~only avenue of resolving the "by large group" issue. yes, if
pizarro became 2020s digitalocean, then surely the demand on alf-sealed hw would have become such that alf... what ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 10:35:25 mp_en_viaje: for instance, on basis of
pizarro experience, mp currently thinks latam is a joke technologically, similarly.
mp_en_viaje: heck, even
pizarro delivers uruguay dc services to its customers even today.
mp_en_viaje: for instance, on basis of
pizarro experience, mp currently thinks latam is a joke technologically, similarly.
mp_en_viaje: more importantly, what the fuck, we paid DC prices to rent machines so that
pizarro could have a book, now we also buy them back so
pizarro doesn't have a downside ? what the fuck is this, training for failure ?
mod6: asciilifeform: that's decent news. but still, we should proceed with our customers needs first. then, possibly, see what we can do for
Pizarro.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: atm I don't have box ready for this (I wasn't actually prepared for
pizarro death, what can I say) + I'd rather know a bit more about those to whom I'm sending boxes, dunno.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not equity. S.NSA holds
pizarro debt for the FG and machines
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, how did snsa end up owning part of
pizarro ?
diana_coman: the website's backup is fully fine (ie from the shared
pizarro machine nothing's needed for smg)
BingoBoingo: To put together another
Pizarro from nothing, Even with the past two years there are other hard edges I have not mastered that I know would be necessary, and the tissue paper pipe problem can happen again.
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Leaping over the wire was the easy part. Letting ritual complexity explode early by not objecting to the GPG note passing thing was a failure. The big failure was marketing, not having a private message churner or selling anyone on the idea of getting one together for
Pizarro and fast. The thing about failures is that over time their consequences accrete. Over time these accretions build up and generate inertia. It is like a
mp_en_viaje:
pizarro had a decent run in spite of management ; that it came to an end... it ran for 20+ months neh. plenty of time.
mp_en_viaje: i daresay most of the benefit of
pizarro was in training you inept tards to some (probably minuscule) degree.
mp_en_viaje: well, if you didn't move it for
pizarro, maybe now to moldavia :D
mp_en_viaje: is the idea
pizarro boxes were hit with 1tb/s for a while ?
mp_en_viaje: understand the weakness in these "still be there" : a month ago, you were complaining
pizarro pipe is too stable. these things are always fine until not anymore, and never before.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, not " asciilifeform as asciilifeform ".
pizarro as
pizarro.
mp_en_viaje: yes, it's bad that
pizarro-upstream link is via email through indian call center. but the solution to this bad is not "afterwards, send someone to manager's home, in a clown car". the solution is in the past : should've made better contacts.
ericbot: Logged on 2018-07-15 15:28:56 mod6: In other news, BingoBoingo has accepted the position as
Pizarro Manager, and officially will take over in this role after the August Statement is published in the first few days of September. Congrats to BingoBoingo!
BingoBoingo: married with respect to
Pizarro. Yes I can see my approach as defective. I may need to do remedial work in Diana's schoolhouse.
mp_en_viaje: are you pregnant with
pizarro, is that the idea ? it's not gonna happen by itself, you know, it has to be ~made~. built, like a thing, product of ~man~'s industry, out of all the parts, individually, each made correctly and exact, all put together as is proper. interesting things are never born, they're always ~made~.
mp_en_viaje: so, you take job running isp, have some time there, do not spend that time to acquire the things someone running isp has and you do not. then later, you're doing whatever it is you're doing for
pizarro, it's not clear to me (or, i suspect, to them), but you don't actually acquire ~any~ kind of skills involved.
mp_en_viaje: similarily, the routes they (latechco) advertise are discrete at the c-block level, meaning
pizarro's allocation is ONE WHOLE ITEM, not a fraction.
mp_en_viaje:
pizarro not only failed to bring new blood, but effectually killed other people's efforts at same!!!!
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, is
pizarro smg server farm even accessible atm ?
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, as there was no
pizarro in 2016, i dun think this has any bearing ? or wha tare we talking about ?
mp_en_viaje: for as long as that's 0, meh. no working sales funnel over at
pizarro.
mp_en_viaje: my (admittedly distant) metric is "count of canditates to lordship who made contact through
pizarro contract"
mp_en_viaje: a brief history of
pizarro would be, that after a lot of me haranguing over how the republic will cease without isp, BingoBoingo volunteered to go somewhere. the whole affair was very open handed, with him given a budget and a task. he picked uy, went there, failed to do a number of specific things, which resulted in me pulling the plug and selling the thing off 10cents to the dollar or somesuch.
mp_en_viaje:
pizarro failed to sell, and failed to get localized in the one location it decided to care about.
mp_en_viaje: none of this is contentions, or that relevant. yes, if
pizarro had 5k customers paying it 50k/mo it could've conceivably had the 25 boxes in 25 dcs.
mp_en_viaje: you said something that doesn't read but nevertheless implies "oh, this multi-dc thing is what i proposed and you rejected in 2017". then upon review it comes out i never rejected. then you link somewhere else where we discuss how, if
pizarro ever manages to get any business, it can grow.
mp_en_viaje: i asked from the pov of
pizarro ; what % of its business is related to fg deployment. i guessed a bout 40%, could be wrong, maybe it's only 20%, w/e.
mp_en_viaje: at the very least both smg servers need it, which is what, 2 out of 5 colo'd machines, with the rk making up another 1/3 of
pizarro business ?
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i don't believe the iron buildout was actually an asset for
pizarro, business wise.
BingoBoingo suspects we need a species of cosmonaut better than BingoBoingo to have a working
Pizarro.
mp_en_viaje: i dun recall what
pizarro budget was, but six digits iirc ?
mp_en_viaje: if
pizarro is here rather than not, what's lost ?
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940834 << in practice, there's the following practical solutions : 1. you folk move on to an ipx. this requires exactly the skillset you don't have, wherein you don't sit on ass 2y talking to an "oscar" who couldn't give shit about you (after however long failing to produce any modicum of insertion that led to the original blowup / massive investor haircut
pizarro came out of
BingoBoingo: Aite, what does
pizarro airlift look like if we find an IXP
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, as of right now, what does a
Pizarro airlift look like?
BingoBoingo: Of course there's also the chance something works out to extend
Pizarro's life in Uruguay, but I'm going to look for some Qntra fodder, maybe put together a blog post, and see what Sunday and then later Monday hold.
BingoBoingo: I suspect 1. blip in
Pizarro network causes big batch of IRC reconnects, 2. Pretext to walk IPs emerges, hitting ips from /join messages during window
BingoBoingo: Most of
Pizarro is back. Now we have to figure out how to bring 2 Rockchips and dulap back without them autoconnecting to Freenode cloakless
mp_en_viaje: um... doesn't seem to load. is this affected by
pizarro ?
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, so far thing doesn't seem all that kosher. i dunno wtf sense this makes, but a sit down with them will hafta happen cuz obviously
pizarro's dead in the water like this
diana_coman had to follow quite a few things at the same time during this last hr so didn't focus on
pizarro specifically.
ossabot: (
pizarro) 2019-10-04 thimbronion: fwiw my bouncer (running on non-
pizarro box) was disconnected yesterday, and a few days prior, and although I have a cloak, it does not get applied before bouncer rejoins channels.
lobbes: ugh now I need to update by ericbot to asciilifeform's new patch. Above echo from #
pizarro ^^^
mircea_popescu: still, this is what value adding is all about, made
pizarro half a bitcent today!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yup, confirmed :
pizarroisp.net loads in half second ; nosuchlabs does not load.
lobbes: re: the by /to, I remember that being figured out from the
pizarro auctions
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 06:21:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, this acceptabru on ye
pizarro ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: the line where it was mentioned as text and the url to the logotron ; and c) deploys this to
pizarro box (should be getting one presently i'm understanding) -- this step will also include putting a trilema clone in there (i'll provide the mp-wp install/db dumb, all that's needed is a mysql glue such that local myql server slaves trilema.com mysql server ; i intend to make a one line edit to the forms, such that
mircea_popescu inserts by reference the 5k threads on
pizarro, "hey why the fuck aren't you out there pounding the world".
mircea_popescu: the line where it was mentioned as text and the url to the logotron ; and c) deploys this to
pizarro box (should be getting one presently i'm understanding) -- this step will also include putting a trilema clone in there (i'll provide the mp-wp install/db dumb, all that's needed is a mysql glue such that local myql server slaves trilema.com mysql server ; i intend to make a one line edit to the forms, such that comments le
lobbesbot: mod6: Sent 3 hours and 6 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> the links to your
pizarro banners appear to all be 404 on mod6.net, is there any way you could assemble all the banners together in a blog post or something?
girlattorney: if i can ask, what is the oversell rate of a
pizarro grade isp?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: indeed it does! and yes, I'll have to look into something for younghands probably but
pizarro will stay there too
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mod6 the links to your
pizarro banners appear to all be 404 on mod6.net, is there any way you could assemble all the banners together in a blog post or something?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo can I get that
pizarro banner to hang in there?
mircea_popescu: this may be a very good deal, seeing how
pizarro is eating your bone marrow, at a fixed monthly cost, and you do two trips a year, worth a few u each.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I negotiated with mod6 1 BTC cash compensation due September for managing
pizarro September 1, 2018 to September 1st, 2019. In the early days with ben_vulpes at the helm there was warrant wrangling. Even if I had warrant wrangled the asciilifeform and mod6 ownership interests would still dwarf mine. Having the negotiation of their interests in an equity deal added to my plate seems like an incredible increase in
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, you got no interest in
pizarro as of yet ?
mircea_popescu: otherwise, you don't specifically need
pizarro to do outreach. you can do outreach on your own, on whatever lines are appealing. trilema is displaying a sexual avenue, "building a harem" ; diana_coman 's younghands thing is sorta 2year community college thing, "come and learn the basics of computing for very reasonable tuition". there's nothing wrong with that.
mircea_popescu: now, to take things apart : i don't think
pizarro is sustainable as it stands. BingoBoingo 's been there for years now, and he's already showing the wear at the edges.