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mircea_popescu: it has the unintended side effect of locking smart bois into local minimums, also, and eventually spawns some variation of cccp/usg, but still. on the basic-est level, it prevents caveman who killed a mammooth from tearing out his spleen.
asciilifeform: interestingly usg does not publish murder stats divided into ~civilians~ and not
asciilifeform: google is and - afaik - has been since almost beginning - usgtronic 'tbtf'
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would an advertiser pay for this i have no idea, but teh google is mining it to the hilt. and i suspect they're either going to get usg payola or start reporting ever-worsening quarters because they moneyz just isn't there anymore.)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it isn't that you have no point, but that the 'usgificated air is the best world' is a panglossism.
asciilifeform: usg packs them into tiny space, then yes, clearly, usg control is 'necessary' to keep'em from colliding.
mircea_popescu: the usg, ever more distant from reality. after michael moore-level break from reality of the 90s, moving on to complete psychosis. soon to reach best korea level of mental confusion, im sure that fat schmuck was anally battering women called "Capitalism" and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: usg.microsoft, usg.apple, usg.nsa, usg.sfpd along with usg.* are still our little bitch.
asciilifeform: that 'once usg requires that every...'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you imagine the same would stay true once every usg item had to use ipad 6 for lack of alternative, and in ALL applications ? phones, servers, metal detectors, everything, ipad 6 ?
asciilifeform: the usg 'mistresses' all have syphilis.
asciilifeform: which is usgtronic, nintendoized computing
asciilifeform: nor can you insure against usg deciding that you owe $maxint in tax
a111: Logged on 2016-04-21 21:25 mircea_popescu: and for that matter i've yet to hear someone go "i'm not sending anything to derpy webwallet / webexchange / webusgtronism because htey don't gpg sign the address"
mircea_popescu: and for that matter i've yet to hear someone go "i'm not sending anything to derpy webwallet / webexchange / webusgtronism because htey don't gpg sign the address" ☟︎
asciilifeform: midnightmagic: the idiot complications of usgtronic otr protocols are irrelevant.
asciilifeform: why hand out crosses to users for usg to nail them to.
asciilifeform: pretty much the whole of usgology boils down to 'keep folks with brains from accessing the boojum'
asciilifeform: btw thinking again about it, lotto is quite like usgotto in that the skill distrib. in either case is NOT random
asciilifeform: usg has a quite correct, from its pov, 'belt and suspenders' approach here.
mircea_popescu: there's lotto and then there's usgotto.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-21 16:11 asciilifeform: where pgp seemed to 'threaten to go mainstream' and usg had not yet decided what to 'do about it'
asciilifeform: where pgp seemed to 'threaten to go mainstream' and usg had not yet decided what to 'do about it' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the reason ponzi collapses is because ~it can not continue~. that's it. if he could have, maddof would have closed down his ponzi cleanly. he can not. if it could have, the usg would have closed down its social securities, or "us financial system" or "real estate values" ponzies cleanly
solrodar: only a USG agent would assume that was a bad thing :P
BingoBoingo: Really entire departments of USG would become unneessary.
asciilifeform: first commenter is also 'usg gold'
mircea_popescu: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RapePortrayedAsRedemption << lulziest thing in the usg-verse, that fantastic collection of mental representations.
mircea_popescu: somehow this "usg matters" is a difficult drop of molasses to escape
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the noobs : mpex 1st conference was principally this thing where voorhees and casares tried to convince me usg is the only game in town, with me laughing, and me stating mtgox isn't going to be around for long, with them laughing.
asciilifeform: << ahahahaha! finally the usgtronic payload
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-17#1453210 << usgpost dun wurk on sundays. ☝︎
asciilifeform: and now 25m of these are to be, by royal decree, forfeited to the usg crown
mircea_popescu: usg aspiring to be as cool as http://deedbot.org/deed-350404-1.txt
shinohai: I suppose he would subpoena usg ?
shinohai: The usg gave phuctor an overdose of Ambien
asciilifeform: i suppose usg mitmatron is written in java or sumthing.
asciilifeform: while it remains true that this is not why mircea_popescu bought it, this is certainly far from 'usg capitalization' bottom of the ocean.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Far less USG tronic.
ben_vulpes: other than that, hilariously inept at anything other than procuring usg dole or scaring innocent civilians with 'sekyoority' analysis
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: every time i dial the videophone into your favourite portland small usgtronics co., i think of you.
mircea_popescu: hey, last time euro dropped 1% in a day, you couldn't get out of the fucking "o noes europe is teh end" usg agitprop
a111: Logged on 2016-04-13 05:37 mircea_popescu: trinque> and who, of course << there is no "when" outside of before/after other than yet another derpy attempt by usg to matter, which ~nobody gives a shit about. (see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193955 re that if you care)
mircea_popescu: trinque> and who, of course << there is no "when" outside of before/after other than yet another derpy attempt by usg to matter, which ~nobody gives a shit about. (see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193955 re that if you care) ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i do not think whoring is extempt from market mechanisms. i KNOW that what you misrepresent as "market mechanisms" is pure usg ideology and has not ever SEEN a market.
mircea_popescu: the last time a woman made 1k+ to fuck some guy, he was some engineer with a love/hate relationship with usg.
asciilifeform: phf: i beg to differ- i had not only x11 built under cygwin long ago (at usg gig!) but ratpoison, firefox, 1,001 unmodified linux proggies
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes kinda why the whole "usg takes as much from 'coffers' of usg corps as it needs" thing in macroeconomy discussion few days ago.
asciilifeform: against whom ? usg's own bank ?
asciilifeform: realize, proper 'civil servants' do ~0 in usgdom.
asciilifeform: and 'desperate for funds' is not quite it - they have vastly more funds than staff (for n00bs to subj, usg spending is - in a perverse and difficult to understand formula - tied to organizational staffing..)
asciilifeform got YET ANOTHER 'we would l0000ve to have you!1111' from usg
mircea_popescu: no i meant from the alt-reality usg perspective
asciilifeform: (given as the marriages are not officiated by usg, the women all register as welfare mother cases)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i actually don't have much to choose from. 95+% of work in my field requires usg 'top secret'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: american courts largely operate 'on technicalities' now, except when usg's verdict is assured by a tame freisler. it is how they avoid crafting inconvenient precedents.
mircea_popescu: or is that not how you say usg dun goofed in usg.agitprop
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448626 << afaik there is nothing to keep usg from zeroing out any usd account they feel like, whenever ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'who is selling 800k of coin? not usg!111 you hatefact-peddling nazi. it's this bloke in his attic'
asciilifeform: as surely as usg letting tinder dry spawns forest fires.
mircea_popescu: but when it came to individual versus group, he took the usg stand. also every time.
asciilifeform: the whole crud orchestra - pestilentially high tax, the resulting cancerous bureaucracy, usg as majority economic actor, the lot.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the reason i said 'not only intellectual property' is that cn is happy to piss on american patents but STILL continues to churn out straight knockoffs of usg crud
mircea_popescu: yet another angle that shows the fundamental link between "intellectual property" and both the usg\s continued claims to financial power as well as the continued infestation of the free world.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi why anyone would EVEN COSNIDER doing anything with a usg agent
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> because without this, a computer is not an asset, but a catastrophicly limitless liability. << hey, it doesn't matter, usg will pretend to be mp and make it all good!11
asciilifeform: rms lived on the spine of a usgtronic dragon, and it is not clear to me that he had any influence in reality over what the dragon did
asciilifeform: it exists entirely as a usgtronic 'oh noez empire that isn't us is gassing its vermin'
danielpbarron: and general trend of "oh ~now~ reddit plays ball with USG (implication that it hadn't been already)"
asciilifeform: let's rephrase, how did mircea_popescu become convinced that usg did ~not know~ ?
asciilifeform: usg ~knows~ but it is impolitic to ~do~ anything.
mircea_popescu: usg would like to know as much as black min wage workers ; but it can't ask them
asciilifeform: and there was also to be reversing, of juicy things, but turned out that (apparently) i could only be used for it if i agreed to usgrasty
asciilifeform: l0l 'hi i'm totally not a usg stooge though i have no street experience'
phf: mircea_popescu: it's a thing, look at recent usg "nerd culture"
mircea_popescu: what, you think the usg is a pos because aliens ?
mircea_popescu: well, no, usg has no obligation to uphold the laws, somehow.
asciilifeform: also ianal but there is probably more gnarl to it, otherwise usg would have to charge, e.g., dope peddler, with trespassing on usg property by occupying his house the day after the dope peddlin' , etc
phf: of course, you can move to istanbul and have excellent kebab every day, but of course you'll have to work for usg expat style, since who else needs programmers
mircea_popescu: by now the entire usg government is approximately a webforum.
BingoBoingo: phf this social engineering strategy has a long history in USG kingdom. Invented by "St Louis Hegelians" who then moved to Harvard and infected USG. Favorite means of USG for getting desired outcome by letting crowd pick the narrative for how they got there.
phf: i guess the attempt is to create controversy on account of everyone being weary of usg syndevs, "look! we have some non-compromised companies"
phf: should be in quotes, a hypothetical jedi mind trick brought to you by usg
phf: asciilifeform is like a study into usg foot soldier culture, sometimes i feel like he relishes in the role
asciilifeform: sorta like usg's 'classified due to Sources & Methods (tm)' form letter reply.
asciilifeform: taiwan is a dr.mengele creation of usg, just as, e.g., israel, and i can't fathom how it could outlast the creator
asciilifeform: usg's 'unsinkable carrier'
asciilifeform: 'The benefits he has derived from his collegiate experience have been strictly formal, and of no further substance.' << i thought mircea_popescu knew that the usaschwitz 'college racket' has ~0 to do with education, but rather is the only usg-permitted iq test (roughly what grade school was once used for)
assbot: Logged on 27-03-2016 08:32:09; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can you speak to why ada's usgenesis shouldn't set off klaxons?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can you speak to why ada's usgenesis shouldn't set off klaxons? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: The USG saved him from that fate
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2016#1437820 << just when usg cryptowarz were sagging... snackbar!111 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2016 00:16:30; asciilifeform: (the real question is why usg would ever admit to it - whole point of the charade was to build precedent-setting verdict. i suppose this outcome became in doubt, and whole thing was brought to what is intended as a quiet burial ?)
trinque: perhaps usg asked something drastic enough apple is concerned
trinque: asciilifeform: perhaps usg's threat is they will shame Apple in public unless they privately bend over more obediently
asciilifeform: (the real question is why usg would ever admit to it - whole point of the charade was to build precedent-setting verdict. i suppose this outcome became in doubt, and whole thing was brought to what is intended as a quiet burial ?) ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436599 << 'us too! if usg can hand out $B to aggressive mediocrities, so can we!111' ☝︎
mircea_popescu notes bitterly that the chinese ARE fucking prosecuting their own bfl, unlike the usg faggots.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435683 <<< usg has "magistrate judges" ie, stalin's police "judicial powers" for this very purpose. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: "The health department said the fate of the bull would be left to the family." << Note, being a Bull means you get out of USG law racket sometimes