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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661645 << because a) wood is still, to this day, the better material for the purpose, in the sense lee sedol is the better go player. note that these WERE YOUR OWN CONSTRAINTS! you despise "made to rust iron bottoms", which is outright idiotic but in the common vein of "alf has no clue but figures he can have oppinion". you do not wish to pay the price of industrial process. you stirctly spe☝︎
asciilifeform: lee sedol was quite educational tho
pete_dushenski: if only asciilifeform had bet on eth (against mp) instead of lee sedol, he could probably afford parachute. 2.5btc was it ?
asciilifeform: same place as 'play go' robot (btw afaik 0 pro games since sedol... as i predicted)
mircea_popescu: autoruting beats hand routing much like google beats sedol.
mircea_popescu: prior to the sedol debacle, there was a simple "let's play go" solution to human vs machine
mircea_popescu: no, he's be using the algo that beat sedol to create as many accounts as his electricity can power, and fuzz everyone out.
asciilifeform: taking for a moment the assumption that sedol ~actually~ lost --
mircea_popescu: sedol lost to a machine that doesn't even know what beans are.
mircea_popescu: sedol lost.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sedol lost.
asciilifeform: i still think the story of lee sedol is a story of match fraud.
mircea_popescu: which is the story of lee sedol.
pete_dushenski: speaking of lee sedol (and other bitbets), sorta surprising davout didn't seem interested in moderating more of the "sure thing" bets.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: y Officially! shat his pants re alphago even before the lee sedol thing!
asciilifeform: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5909 << related new lulz
asciilifeform: PeterL: iirc it is in the lee sedol comments.
assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 80.22 B (54%) on Yes, 68.59 B (46%) on No | closed 2 weeks 13 hours ago ... ( http://bit.ly/22vqNHi )
mircea_popescu: davout> https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5888 <<< guy has a point << lemme tell you a story. when i was a kid, i don't recall exactly, 5, 6, something, my mother was very sad over i have no idea what - being as i was too young to comprehend the emotions and problems of adults. but to cheer her up i decided to make her a dress! to which purpose i proceeded to cut off the shiny
assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 80.22 B (54%) on Yes, 68.59 B (46%) on No | closed 2 weeks 12 hours ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rg7ydD )
davout: a diligent commenter did the math, the actual shortfall seems to be 4.37385306 btc -> https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5892
assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 80.22 B (54%) on Yes, 68.59 B (46%) on No | closed 2 weeks 9 hours ago ... ( http://bit.ly/22vqNHi )
davout: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5888 <<< guy has a point
assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 80.22 B (54%) on Yes, 68.59 B (46%) on No | closed 1 week 6 days ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1VAzFWO )
asciilifeform: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5881 << lulzy
assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 80.22 B (54%) on Yes, 68.59 B (46%) on No | closed 1 week 5 days ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1pXwgVL )
asciilifeform: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5875 << mega-wankatron
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5867 << there is what, dozen of these, and i dun think they're all nubbins`.. << why does everyone labour under the impression that i think about any of this shit while i'm not here?
assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 80.22 B (54%) on Yes, 68.59 B (46%) on No | closed 1 week 4 days ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1RdvTNC )
asciilifeform: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5867 << there is what, dozen of these, and i dun think they're all nubbins`..
assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 80.22 B (54%) on Yes, 68.59 B (46%) on No | closed 1 week 16 hours ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q5VsDd )
asciilifeform: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march << lulzy wankage in commentz
mircea_popescu: the whole deal was something like "and lee sedol will now play the whole nation of china - elect a representative, or two, or whatever. the go competence of the entire han race is being judged"
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu have a mindphuck - turns out google admits to having jacked up the cpu core count after the single solitary lee sedol win.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 10:20:24; mircea_popescu: ascii_field> anyone else here read the lee sedol games? << i've looked through.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field> anyone else here read the lee sedol games? << i've looked through.
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 22:46:10; ascii_field: anyone else here read the lee sedol games?
ascii_field: anyone else here read the lee sedol games?
ascii_field: i have equally little business telling lee sedol how to play
ascii_field: in 4th game lee sedol actually decided to play with both hands and wiped the floor with the bot.
ascii_field: note also that, breaking with tradition, lee sedol's contract for this game included NO payment for showing up, nor a loser's prize
ascii_field: in chinese sphere, there are also suspicions, e.g., lee sedol avoided starting ko (which bots have never shined at) until 3rd game, where he did so quite ineptly and after his loss was quite cemented
ascii_field: the pile of 'yes' bets in the last few hours prior to closing, the particulars of how lee sedol went down, and now the 4th - give me a certain picture.
nubbins`: i admittedly DGAF about sedol vs alphago, but wasn't the series best 3 out of 5?
danielpbarron: punkman, yep. The win for Sedol is purely conciliatory
asciilifeform: but at any rate i would not be surprised if one day i learn that lee sedol was told by a little bird that if he wins he will have an accident like go seigen in '61
assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 80.22 B (54%) on Yes, 68.59 B (46%) on No | closed 1 day 17 hours ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5fPD4 )
mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5794 << this ia actually a pretty intelligent comment
assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 80.22 B (54%) on Yes, 68.59 B (46%) on No | closed 1 day 17 hours ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q5VsDd )
asciilifeform: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march << mega-commentz lulz.
asciilifeform: also if lee sedol is not thinking about the 'maximize exposure' thing right now, he'd have to be a fool
mircea_popescu: for instance - everyone now invested in go has had his life rearranged by lee sedol's rather erratic behaviour.
mircea_popescu: adlai> lee sedol resigns. wtf? << are they buying this or wtf.
punkman: adlai: lee sedol resigns. wtf? << interesting. maybe someone should open another bet? you'd get nice odds betting on "No" now
adlai: lee sedol resigns. wtf?
adlai: first blood! lee sedol captures an alphago stone
assbot: AlphaGo ?p vs Lee Sedol 9p, 0400 UTC (8pm PST) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1XbIR29 )
adlai: michael redmond is working on the "lee sedol's new haircut" side
assbot: Match 1 - Google DeepMind Challenge Match: Lee Sedol vs AlphaGo - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1p6LBCR )
assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 80.22 B (54%) on Yes, 68.59 B (46%) on No | closed 3 hours 38 minutes ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q5VsDd )
asciilifeform: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march << match starts in, iirc, 20 min.
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asciilifeform: (miners ~are~ misbehaving, as, e.g., i witnessed with my lee sedol bet. but this is separate.)
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asciilifeform: i saw same thing when sending a lee sedol bet a few wks ago
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mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/ << epic
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mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5684 << that's a new one.
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assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 30.73 B (53%) on Yes, 27.63 B (47%) on No | closing in 2 weeks 1 day| weight: 61`697 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1QsN9gt )
mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/
asciilifeform: 'I have one bet on at 2:3 against AlphaGo winning against Sedol in March - they get my $667 if AlphaGo wins, I get their $1000 if AlphaGo loses. Does anyone else like those odds? (They originally offered me $1000 to $1500 and I've decided that I regret not taking the full amount.) EDIT: Have reached current betting capacity on Sedol at $1500 to $2250, others may still be taking bets.' << the whole thing.
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