1312 entries in 0.9s
mircea_popescu: go1111111:
Gavin has a different idea of where he wants Bitcoin to go<< no, actually,
gavin has finally figured that there's not really space in bitcoin for him, and he wants to move on. which is fine.
mircea_popescu:
gavin wants to have a cryptousd he's welcome to make yet another shitcoin.
mircea_popescu: engineering is about doing things, and
gavin has a vanishingly small ability in that field, also.
mircea_popescu: and engineering is NOT "about tradeoffs". politics is about tradeoff, and
gavin has zero mandate or political authority
mircea_popescu: <go1111111> thestringpuller:
Gavin surely knows that it adds some burden on full nodes, but the point is that it's a trivial amount. engineering is about tradeoffs and the thing being traded off against increasing the block size is miniscule << increasing the block size is NOT a gain. it's a loss.
assbot:
Gavin Andresen Proposes Scalability Roadmap and Hardfork
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: It's an assumption
Gavin takes into account
thestringpuller: so average bandwidth in US (where
Gavin is based) is 10Mbit. An incearse of .5 per year is like what 15 next then 22.5 after that etc etc
go1111111: thestringpuller: you're asking "why up 50% a year?". my reply directly addressed that.
Gavin has a different idea of where he wants Bitcoin to go, and it requires lots of transaction processing capability
BingoBoingo: nubbins`:
Gavin hasn't proposed a hard number where he wants to start 50% annual increases from.
go1111111: thestringpuller:
Gavin surely knows that it adds some burden on full nodes, but the point is that it's a trivial amount. engineering is about tradeoffs and the thing being traded off against increasing the block size is miniscule
pete_dushenski: so now i'm not so sure which
gavin is the real
gavin on contravex...
thestringpuller: Everyone just wants to follow
Gavin and the BitcoinFoundation to the edge of the cliff.
thestringpuller: Yeah I'm not sure this will be so controversial. If miners want BTC to be worth more, then they'll want the network to scale. It's really that simple. And
Gavin is obviously trustworthy.
TheNewDeal: was
gavin really commenting on qntra, or is that merely an actor
assbot:
Gavin Andresen Proposes Scalability Roadmap and Hardfork
punkman: "
Gavin offers this 50% yearly figure based on Nielsen's Law of Internet bandwidth which supposes high speed Internet connections double in speed every year."
assbot:
Gavin Andresen Proposes Scalability Roadmap and Hardfork
mircea_popescu: neither of these are getting merged into bitcoin, whatever
gavin says or whatever forks happen.
mircea_popescu: the problem with
gavin's idiocy is that roughly speaking, the square of the block size and the total network hash are on opposite sides of an equality, which describes total network security.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the problem with
gavin's idiocy isn't merely that "substantial increasing barrier to entry for operators of full nodes", horrid as that may be.
mircea_popescu: mostly because the usb "standard" looks like something
gavin, taaki and that other guy put together.
mircea_popescu: "99% don't give a shit about
gavin's latest stupidity, but this is not a signal to stfu and go home"
mircea_popescu: well
gavin doesn't enjoy much of a reputation for a thinker around here, but let's see.
fluffypony:
Gavin is very busy dressing up like a mad scientist to accept awards on behalf of Satoshi Nakamoto
mircea_popescu: because
gavin not listening to what i told him to do when i told him to do it.
BingoBoingo: "There was a lot of talk recently about
Gavin possibly changing the protocol to increase the number of transactions per block. As this formed quite a bit of chapter 2 I was wondering if you had an thoughts on this." << ALso not a thing that changes the protocol
mjr_: because they have been letting
gavin make tons of changes
mjr_: passed that down to
gavin mircea_popescu: and the whole thing run by etotheipi, who you will recall as the at-the-time important miner who worked with
gavin to kill the at-the-time long chain.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The
Gavin messing with tx fees article someone dropped a while back
BingoBoingo: "As well, the new code enables transaction senders to configure how much priority they want their transaction to receive. In some cases, users may opt to have as many as six blocks pass before the first confirmation is received." << How the fuck does
Gavin deign to tell the miners what to do?
mircea_popescu: davout but that aside i dun see much problem with it.
gavin is copying the sec, hard to find fault even should you be so inclined.
bitcoinpete: i think i saw a photo of
gavin's arm with a fluffypony tattoo once
BingoBoingo: bitcoingirl: It was probably people on twitter telling
Gavin to shut up that did it.
moiety: jurov: i think
gavin might be too placid to pull off the manul-look
jurov: maybe you can persuade
gavin to dress as one?
kakobrekla: satoshi leaving has nothing to do with
gavin mircea_popescu: i kinda regret the guy didn't keep a blog. it'd be neat if one could link to where he says "
gavin, you're too fucktarded to talk to, stop emailing me."
fluffypony:
Gavin Andresen dressing up as a mad scientist to accept an award on Satoshi Nakamoto's behalf is such an odd decision
kakobrekla: asciilifeform heres an explanation: >>
Gavin Andresen was the crowd-pleaser of the evening, as he disguised himself to accept the award for best Visionary Academic Paper on Satoshi Nakamoto’s behalf, garnering laughs from the audience. Check out his get up!
jborkl:
Gavin Andresen: Rising Transaction Fees Could Price Poor Out of Bitcoin <Just for you Mircea, cause you care sooo much :)
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no but looky :
gavin quit, he can have his peace. asking shit out of nobodies a la hearn or that egglund chick is like... no matter what yo uasked, it's still +ev for them
ThickAsThieves: some notables that will be in Amsterdam:
Gavin Andresen, Mike Hearn, Jinyoung Lee Englund (that snakey twitter liar hackathon canceller), Matonis, Marco Santori (self-proclaimed bitcoin lawyer), Jeff Garzi, BitPay, Coinbase, Nic Cary, Electrum, Armory, BitAngels, Circle, Bloomberg, NY Times, Mastercoin, Ripple (like 4 dudes!), eToro, Coindesk, ZipZap, Xapo, Erik Voorhees, Vessenes, The
HeySteve: I think I'm just noticing too many Bitcoin people talk like
Gavin Belson from Silicon Valley. CryptoAIDS, etc.
mircea_popescu: looky,
gavin still lead bla bla. not so hip on keeping updated huh.
minersdidit:
gavin derived his salary to feed his family even though he had tens of millions on BTC
minersdidit:
gavin has been a disaster ever since fork, constant patches and fucked up releases
[\]: In fact, satoshi was the one that gave
Gavin rights.
[\]: where did satoshi ever call
Gavin a fucktard?
[\]:
Gavin hasn't left. He's just not the lead dev.
minersdidit: hopefully this bear market leads to most of the devoplment team leaving.
gavin going is a positive step
mircea_popescu: BCB no need to, because
gavin did the right thing and quit.
benkay: "So once again, I must thank Aravind,
Gavin, Timo, Luis and all other great people for being behind Bitcoin, which means no other thing that transmitting the passion for it to other people."
Apocalyptic: or was until 0.9 anyway,
Gavin claims to have fixed it
mircea_popescu: there's also Shinichi Mochizuki,
Gavin's wife, Jed McCaleb (judging by kraken... god help us)
mircea_popescu: at least
gavin goes on the record saying that he doesn't need any money,
davout:
gavin is probably jewish
cerelenius: mircea_popescu: will
gavin be affected ?
mircea_popescu: the argument isn't "o wow look btc is broken", the argument merely is "o hey, remember when
gavin was a total asshat in 2012 ?"
mircea_popescu:
gavin put in code that made everyone downloading the latest versiion vote "yes" cause he wanted to see a yesz.
ozbot: Irish Fiddle : Frankie
Gavin 1 - YouTube
mircea_popescu: so
gavin is seriously saying "follow us @BTCFoundation " ?
ozbot:
Gavin Andresen ’88 is Chief Scientist at the Bitcoin Foundation and lead developer of the Bitcoin
Dimsler_: well i jus tdon't like how
gavin has that bitcoind sourceforge key
ozbot:
Gavin will visit the Council on Foreign Relations
mircea_popescu: if indeed
gavin's key accidentally expires with no back-ups...
Duffer1:
gavin andreson, chief bitcoin scientist
fiat500: right,
gavin mentioned it on /r/bitcoin
mircea_popescu: at least coinbase has the sense to rape ex-respectable ppl a la
gavin