ozbot: Bitcoin Anonymity Upgrade Zerocoin To Become An Independent Cryptocurrency - Forbes
jurov: altcoins announced on forbes nao
jurov: hahaha "were inspired by dogecoin"
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dub: inspirating motherfuckers to sell
Duffer1: lol that chinese chick at 1:2-
KRS1: oh wow theres that japanese aerobic language skills video i remember that lol
wao-ender: lol that czech lads with corncob pipe
Duffer1: still watching whitesnake trying to get service is sell out of my head
nubbins`: haha, are these the "i was robbed by two men" people?
nubbins`: just two white women humiliating themselves for no reason
Duffer1: wow i didn't even know that rush YYZ acapella existed, that's just awesome
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nubbins`: always mildly nervous sending casascius coins in the mail
pankkake: basically you're sending a paper wallet
pankkake: if only you could transfer money over the internet
nubbins`: well nobody wants to pay 2btc for 1btc over the internet
nubbins`: otherwise, yeah, i'd just do that :P
nubbins`: my fax machine doesn't support silver ;(
pankkake: oh at least it's a silver coin
nubbins`: not [;;ticker --last] pretty, but pretty nonetheless
nubbins`: ah, been a while since that's happened
nubbins`: that used to be a bannable offence in many efnet chans
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fract4l: Ethereum just changed the game.... Mastercoin , bitshares, colored coins,,, all dead now
fract4l: ethereum.org/ethereum.html
ozbot: Ethereum: 2nd gen cryptocurrency with contract programming, "dagger" hashing
fract4l: Ethereum just changed the game. everyone is fucked now.
kakobrekla: i dont know but the article says the autor is very smart
jcpham: obv satoshi's brother in law
Duffer1: just a tactic to attract miners left out of the sha race
fract4l: As a result, we have a protocol with unique potential; rather than being a closed-ended, single-purpose protocol intended for a specific array of applications in data storage, gambling or finance, Ethereum is open-ended by design, and we believe that it is extremely well-suited to serving as a foundational layer for a very large number of both financial and non-financial protocols in the years to come.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Turing coin? That ultimate FPGA coin you've mentioned before.
kakobrekla: i think it could prove hard to lauch a sha coin nowdays, since a lot of people can fuck with the blockchain
Duffer1: they'd bend your blockchain over and do terrible terrible things to it
Duffer1: i hope that happens quickly, it'd be nice to see what devs come up with to counter 'scrypt asics'
Duffer1: they'll still have to attract miners, and attempt to mitigate the effects of launch attacks/stability
Duffer1: how to evolve beyond cpu/mem intense functions?
Duffer1: devs are only worried about their own coin though
Duffer1: so they have to attract miners somehow
Duffer1: it's a fascinating ecosystem
Duffer1: one coin with variable pow?
BingoBoingo: X-Ray crystalography as a useful work function?
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BingoBoingo: Well X-Ray crystallography is indeed a hard physical problem with varying and more expensive levels of difficulty. X-raying a mineral crystal isn't so bad. A given protein in fluid is a bit harder. Getting a good picture of a receptor protein as it sits in the cell membrane is an incredibly hard problem.
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KRS1: yes as Duffer1 said fascinating ecosystem
Duffer1: perceived utility beyond energy wasting will drive popularity and coin value
Duffer1: meh their pow doesn't actually do anything
Duffer1: the perception is obviously that utility will drive adoption and popularity and value
Duffer1: it's different with alts though, since they're all tied to how many bitcoins can i get for my shitcoin
Duffer1: indeed, but with the potential to rapidly become something else
Duffer1: the right pow can change everything
KRS1: reading this conversation vs gmaxwell's conversation in -pricetalk is hurting my brain a little.
KRS1: you both had me glued
Duffer1: ascii knows far more about this than i do, i'm just going off what i've observed from the primecoin example
Duffer1: i wouldn't call that crackpot at all
Duffer1: but i see evolution there as well
KRS1: primecoin is very interesting to me
KRS1: imo the only altcoin that might have value besides nmc
KRS1: but then again asciilifeform showed me how it too is worthless
Duffer1: all hail the brilliance of those devs
KRS1: no ipo for coinecoin and has no dogelike meme
Duffer1: what would you say of primecoin though?
truffles: some1 spammed this chanel in btc otc :(
truffles: i wonder if im still banned :D
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mircea_popescu: ahh look at that. will we be blessed so that 2014 is the year of bitcoin stability ?
ozbot: 1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1813 blocks | Estimated Change: 16.8054% in 10d 11h 6m 5s
davout: bitcoin has always been stable
davout: 1 BTC = 1 BTC since Jan. 3 2009
mircea_popescu: ok ok, my bad. will the us be blessed with the year of usd stability ?
twizt: anyone know if these are any good
ozbot: IBM Redbooks | IBM System x3650 M4
twizt: what do you think tho?
twizt: my ex-job has 5 more of these
twizt: i feel like taking em lol
twizt: nah actuall not free
twizt: worth about 2k each
twizt: yea have all harddrive slots
twizt: the solid state drives them selves are gold
twizt: gotta hire some mexicans to go pick em up
Vexual: you'll be able to run 5 bitcoin nodes in december
truffles: vexual whats for dinner today?
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truffles: guess ill try for toco's night
Vexual: todays fish is trout al la creme
Vexual: yes i am not rich enought to reasturant constantly
truffles: bitcoin milliionaires everywhere
truffles: but not all asses, its strange
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truffles: i wonder if ppl those ppl with complaints of me doing "something useful" r upset about all the lines theyre forced to read :D
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truffles: cuz obv every1 seems to read logs around here
Vexual: do yo udo anything useful?
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mircea_popescu: and yes, that's why you end up on ignore lists, cause you yak unimportantly.
truffles: u only read important things eh
truffles: if i shift through that blog will that be the case?
mircea_popescu: i read lots of shit really. but that's what makes me so unique.
truffles: being an ass isnt unique though
mircea_popescu: here's the problem with the world : it's what it is, not what;d be convenient for your own head it be.
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Vexual: the ability to effect change
Vexual: no like yourself first
truffles: there are ppl who view themselves as more significant than others i get that
mircea_popescu: no, like thoth, the original billionaire and congressman rolled into one
mircea_popescu: gods can die too. that's not really all that relevant now is it.
mircea_popescu: even marginal jewish sects imported the dead god trope.
mircea_popescu: you're generally a lazy fuckwit that imagines he can redefine things in his head and that'll matter. it doesn't, obviously, but what difference does it make.
truffles: oh so u know me personally now
mircea_popescu: incidentally, that's one symptom of the unimportant : they may think they're personal, but in point of fact they're impersonal and universally so. even things they do in private are really quite impersonal.
mircea_popescu: anyway : it's not that i know you personally. it's that knowing you implies no personal anything.
mircea_popescu: admire how this chatlog suddenly became readable, even interesting.
truffles: i dont know where to begin with that heh
truffles: the delusion is so high i dunno
Vexual: woth thoth won five days of light from the moon, what at player
Vexual: for want of a btter desciptor
truffles: well that was a surprise, i figured every1 was atheist
truffles: vexual hope u dont have such a high opinion of urself
Vexual: theres no big m for starters
twizt: damn icbit made it there
jurov: kraken is there, under forex :D
twizt: lol weexchange made it there
Vexual: itd be interesting to highlight the logos over time of existance
davout: inputs.io made it to wallets
ozbot: GCA Savvian - Home
mircea_popescu: Dec 29 2013Notice regarding successful partial exit by Mezzanine Corporation(Dec 30, 2013)
mircea_popescu: sounds darling, perhaps they make the move out of dating & relationship advice by ditching the pdf bs.
mircea_popescu: "Mezzanine Corporation (Head Office: Chuo‐ku, Tokyo; Representative Director: Koji Sasayama),
mircea_popescu: a wholly‐owned subsidiary of GCA Savvian Corporation, has succeeded in the partial exit of 1.3 billion yen of preferred stock by its investment business limited partnership."
Vexual: some logos are illegible, i hope they didn't pay too much
mircea_popescu: people using terms of art as if they were hired hookers these days.
mircea_popescu: jurov matonis is actually a native english speaker afaik. is this some sort of "we're going to namedrop" relationship where his involvement is having sometime commented on them or something and now they're running with it ?
jurov: likely, he's among three named as "advisory board"
jurov: no other presons are named there
jurov: (speaking about bitcointrust.co)
Vexual: is he the labcoin guy?
mircea_popescu: Vexual no, he's an old time advocate and the original guy with a press job that did bitcoin some fair reporting
mircea_popescu: meanwhile got kicked out of the bitcoin scamdation (which he foolishly helped create) by the sort of backroom politicking vessenes lives for.
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Vexual: fuck trying to read bitcoin history is like trying to download the bloackchain with a 286 and bandicoot powered internet
mircea_popescu: if i recall he was "not notable" enough or something of the sort, being of course the only one in the entire list who actually had some sort of cred.
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davout: isn't he chair of the foundation or sthg?
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Vexual: i bet i could get into the aussie chapter, it'd take em 6 months to realise I don't acutally do C++
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truffles: cuz ure that good at faking it
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Vexual: notice how our banks arent imploding
Vexual: lady bullshit is state of the art here
Vexual: get some aussie into washington and theres no problem
Vexual: we can GE a sheep with 10 micron wool for mr armani, or dig up metal, so we're pretty solid
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mircea_popescu: lol @this case before the us supreme court. so obama declares the senate in recess cause he feels like, makes a bunch of recess appointments
mircea_popescu: now the supreme court has somehow to extricate itself from this mess.
ozbot: Court appears ready to nix recess appointment power - First Read
truffles: is romania insignificant or is its politics on the blog?
Vexual: romania isnt the worlds bank
Vexual: [19:24] <truffles> not yet
Vexual: mircea, are you a lawyer?
mircea_popescu: truffles there's some romanian politics on trilema, mostly under "politica si prostie"
truffles: just wondering, seems finance ppl r forced to talk about the US
Vexual: what did you study at university? if you don't mind me asking?
Vexual: did you study commerce too?
mircea_popescu: arguably being romanian they're actually worth something, unlike their us counterparts
Vexual: you learned computer science by yourself too?
VanCleef: oh good something original mp talking about how awesome he is
mircea_popescu: VanCleef dude don't be a hater, he asked me. what am i to do ?
mircea_popescu: Vexual no, i mostly learned that by managing people who did it for a living.
truffles: for a philosophy student ur world views so narrow dam dude
Vexual: can you read sanscrit?
truffles: money seems to change ppl, but i suspect not him heh
Vexual: he could be in st kitts being an arsehole
VanCleef: he use to go around helping homeless people and even gave a kidney to his best friend
truffles: i dont like reading ur blog, it seems u dont put much effort into the grammar
Vexual: i don't think he'd give away a kidney, it might be a drain on the economy
VanCleef: now he just rides in his jetski in his bathtub made out of diamonds and his pet dolphin
mircea_popescu: VanCleef i only help homeless people if they're female, kinda young, kinda cute and really, really into it.
Vexual: he wouldn't ride a jetski unless his crew designed it
truffles: ur flow of thought often seems disconnected, i dont usually get it
VanCleef: "you look cock fasmished, let me help you"
truffles: but u know i did ask, so let me attempt
mircea_popescu: that wouldn't be very practical. i can only get it up what, a few times a day ?
VanCleef: since you bought all their houses ya
mircea_popescu: thanks to all the inequality fightin', bout one in ten us folk are homeless, one in three yurepan kids are unemployed or unemployable and so on.
Vexual: ever been hungry vancleef?
VanCleef: not as rich as MP tho who could buy and sell your family 10 times over
Vexual: yeah and when there was nothing to do they built pyramids
VanCleef: have you ever been in love mp?
VanCleef: are you in love at the moment?
VanCleef: if i was mp id jerk off to myself in front of the mirror too
mircea_popescu: yes, well, when you were three you probably ate your own shit, too.
truffles: i managed to get to sentence 2 , so basically u hate empathy?
VanCleef: so you've never felt real love before mp?
ArsKisS: VanCleef, what first crush? no girl can crush me
mircea_popescu: truffles nope. i dislike the sort of lazy fuckwit who imagines magic works. which is what you're trying to do with "Empathy" and this guy is trying to do with "twu wuv", create some sort of magical amulet that'll save you from having to, you know, live.
truffles: a world where every1 just takes
VanCleef: i hope its something you get to experience oneday
mircea_popescu: me living your preconceived notion ? i have no doubt it'd be a good feeling, only problem is
truffles: i believe in moderation, i dont recognize that view ure posing
mircea_popescu: it;s supposed to be a good feeling for me, not for you.
VanCleef: just open your heart oneday mp
VanCleef: just promise me you'll keep an open mind and when the time is right a open heart?
VanCleef: i dont want the sickness to completely take over that sweet young man i use to know before all this bitcoin stuff
mircea_popescu: im starting to understand why romantic comedies sell so well. they really managed to create their own captive market huh.
truffles: why r u wanting him to find love now
VanCleef: sometimes we just want someone to hug
VanCleef: so i just hope he finds someone to truely love oneday
truffles: so ure his childhood friend from romania?
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ozbot: Bob Dylan - Isis (1976) on Vimeo
truffles: No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were. Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Vexual: my cigarette packet tells me australia is the smallest continent
truffles: why not look for quotes like that talking about empathy
truffles: bob dylans voice i dont like too much
mircea_popescu: the world existed before your shitty republic was founded five minutes ago
ozbot: jimi hendrix if 6 were 9 (rara avis version) - YouTube
mircea_popescu: and the world will exist just fine long after we won't even remember your shitty republic ever was
Vexual: its all the female hormone
truffles: il·lit·er·ate a person who is unable to read or write.
truffles: hmm i think we need to learn english
mircea_popescu: being able to read or write doesn't make you literate any more than being able to css makes you a programmer.
truffles: if u want to change the meaning of predefined words go ahead
Vexual: im defo gonna buy that old italian storybook now i hear there is a newtranslation
mircea_popescu: i'm not changing it. i'm simply not acquiescing to the change you propose.
mircea_popescu: look at the beauty of that, literate means educated, illiterate means "unable to read and write and strictly that".
mircea_popescu: how fascinating the world of ephemerides, seriously now.
truffles: which meaning are u trying to go for then
truffles: cuz google says its hemmingway
ozbot: CW Stoneking - Jungle Blues - YouTube
mircea_popescu: yes, well, google is probably able to read and write too, these days.
mircea_popescu: doesn't understand jack shit it's saying, but that's not part of the scoring card anymore.
truffles: "no man is an island" is by john donne
Vexual: 5-10,000 years huh mp?
truffles: i was going to use his quote but that hemingway version was better
Vexual: im jealous, i don't rememebr what happened last week
Vexual: how did a pharoah think?
truffles: and tombs got raided on top of it
Vexual: i dont think most arceaologists interested in egypt could answer that with any certainty
Vexual: its not all eyeshadow and pussy, ill asure you that
ozbot: Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger on Vimeo
Vexual: yeah you're not authorised to drink
truffles: Donne argued that it was better to examine carefully one's religious convictions than blindly to follow any established tradition, for none would be saved at the Final Judgment, by claiming "A Harry, or a Martin taught [them] this."
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truffles: "His images of sickness, vomit, manure, and plague reflected his strongly satiric view of a world populated by all the fools and knaves of England."
truffles: i see no contradiction with the "no man is an island"
ozbot: Auld Lang Syne || Lea Michele on Vimeo
truffles: i see the quote about the bell tolls, but the wording is different ldo
truffles: vexual u dont like utube anymore?
Vexual: anything google runs unusually slow for me
truffles: vimeo is slow for me so standard
truffles: did u understand the words she sang?
ozbot: Bob Dylan - Thunder On The Mountain - YouTube
Vexual: "better roll your aeroplane down"
ozbot: Lea Michele - Cannonball - YouTube
ozbot: new york alicia keys - YouTube
truffles: i only like the chorus for that
truffles: oh nm tis is the one without jz
ozbot: QUEEN IFRICA / Lioness on the Rise - YouTube
ozbot: Amy Winehouse - Back To Black - YouTube
ozbot: Amy Winehouse - Back To Black (Live Acoustic) - YouTube
Vexual: i would fuck her if she was alive
Vexual: check you secktor fool
truffles: ive never had a type, i feel lucky
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ozbot: Amy Winehouse - You Know I'm No Good - YouTube
ozbot: Melissa Etheridge - Piece of my heart - YouTube
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truffles: cant stay connected Diablo-D3?
Vexual: she doesnt need shoes or pubes
ozbot: Joss Stone - "The High Road" LIVE Studio Session - YouTube
Vexual: she learnened soul at voice school
truffles: ill try to avoid hearing her speak, she was a good student if she learned that at skool
Vexual: she obviously had a particular aptitude
truffles: to convince some1 to go to her concert stead of metallica hmmm
ozbot: Lady Sovereign - So Human - YouTube
truffles: music must take u somewhere imo
Vexual: works better when you know shes abig ol lezzo
ozbot: Stone Roses - Fools Gold(Full Version) - YouTube
truffles: this is the beginning of decline for todays links isnt it
Vexual: kids are being born after bitcoin
ozbot: Thrift Shop Featuring Wanz - Macklemore and Ryan - Full with Lyrics (HD) - YouTube
Vexual: jurov if youve got youy hearing aid in this is outta time
mircea_popescu: anything short of programmable workfunction will lead to a cat'n'mouse game rather expensive and unproductively unpleasant for all involved. << i think you underestimate the prevalence of masochists in the bdsmitcoin community.
ozbot: Animaniacs Intro - YouTube
jurov: heh, reading that scrollback.. got an idea that maybe specifying sat solver itself as work function could work
jurov: then one would spend coins to specify desired input to be combputed by solver
ozbot: Raketu - Sody Pop - YouTube
jurov: so, i'd broadcast a special transaction "whoever sat-solves this input will get these coins"
jurov: and miners would decide if they want to do it
jurov: once solved, it will be verifiable easily
mircea_popescu: but why stop there. make doom coin : the proof of work is sat-proving the actual coin codebase. all of it. including the pow part.
jurov: yes, but you still need to break the problem into small parts for mining
jurov: to keep the spice flowing :)
jurov: and splitting the proof of whole codebase to manageable chunks might not be possible
mircea_popescu: jurov well that's why it's doomcoin. there can only be one.
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mircea_popescu: post #42, the answer to the big questions of life and everything else.
jurov: doomcoin would be like... postmined coin :)
Vexual: is not firedcat gonna allow trading of his company witht the last three digits on the blockchain?
Vexual: or does friedcat have a little vex in him?
ozbot: Nicki Minaj - Stupid Hoe (Explicit) - Video Dailymotion
KRS1: HAH thats a good one! It's 0826 AM here and I'm blasting this song
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Vexual: sheck speical alice on yfreecams
KRS1: i cant pull that up then
Vexual: dont she wont want a tatoo
KRS1: wtf is up with BBW..who the fuck wants to see all that fat
Vexual: theres no accounting for taste or other humans
ozbot: The Bangles Walk Like An Egyptian - YouTube
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ozbot: Primal Scream perform It's Alright It's OK - live session - YouTube
SNone: could someone give some pointers
Vexual: if thats where youre headed
ozbot: paranoid black sabbath (lyrics included) - YouTube
Vexual: what do you want to know SNone?
Vexual: if you're mininging kanye west coin you need to add --scrypt
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KRS1: Vexual ya played the wrong one cunt
ozbot: DAVID BOWIE - FAME [HQ] - YouTube
KRS1: Thats my shit right there. 70's disco, cocaine, yeah.
Vexual: thats on the desert island ipod
KRS1: i need some coffee cant get started right this morning
ozbot: Dizzee Rascal Holiday - Video Dailymotion
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ozbot: The Doors "Been Down So Long (Alternate Version)" - YouTube
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ozbot: Nirvana - In Bloom - YouTube
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KRS1: guitars on that song are moving
KRS1: epitome of 90's grunge rock
KRS1: and i consider nirvana late to the game
KRS1: i think jane's addiction might have kicked that shit off in the 80's even
ozbot: Aeon Flux Opening - YouTube
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ozbot: 1990. Jane's Addiction - Been Caught Stealing HQ - YouTube
KRS1: That actually came out in 1989
KRS1: i remember aeon flux
KRS1: opening was the best
KRS1: prolly the only anime i can tolerate
Vexual: i saw the garbage girl with her tits out at big day out
Vexual: its enough to get a man into s&m
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.049202 = 0.3936 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0492 = 0.246 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.54200001 = 1.084 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Machine Gun Fellatio Mojo Pumpin' (4 of 6) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.55497997 = 1.11 BTC [+]
Vexual: these guys are motorhead
ozbot: machine gun fellatio - mutha fukka on a motorcycle - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54200001 BTC [-]
Vexual: im pretty sure pankkake has a bikini kill sticker on his 100 mile an hour shiity citron
Vexual: whereby the shock absorbers cost more than the car and everythink is ok
ozbot: Tracy Chapman Fast Car Remix - YouTube
ozbot: Daft Punk - Around The World - YouTube
ozbot: Joni Mitchell-California (BBC) - YouTube
Diablo-D3: motorhead is considered good now? =/
Vexual: if you consider my consideration
ozbot: Music Auld Lang Syne ~ Royal Scots Dragoon Guards. - YouTube
ozbot: Celtic Woman - Symphony Tour - Auld Lang Syne - YouTube
ozbot: How to Pronounce Ben Nevis - YouTube
ozbot: The Straits | ABC1 | Full Trailer: Thursdays, 8.30pm - YouTube
Vexual: whatvever the kako syas
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 642 @ 0.001 = 0.642 BTC [+]
ozbot: Shipping companies largely silent on NSA interceptions | The Daily Caller
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19910 @ 0.00084341 = 16.7923 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: small scale surface shipping would work with bc
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00009 = 0.18 BTC [+]
Vexual: you're so not scammy, i think if you ever got into shiping you wouldnt even poke paris
Vexual: well, you're still not scammy
Vexual: i bet i can make jimmoth have an anuerism
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 390 @ 0.00048998 = 0.1911 BTC [+]
Vexual: wait jimmothy is kill?
pankkake: lol the cloudhashing customers took a lot of time to get they were scammed
pankkake: who would even trust something with "cloud" in it
jurov: pankkake are you going to follow that promise?
Vexual: pankakke i have my kb set wronh i vant even find@
KRS1: we have a scam scale now? I thought if scam > 0 | > /dev/null
Vexual: cannes selection never show the wife going direct to the madhouse
Vexual: mps old book probably cover the matter'
pankkake: hehe I spammed your blog jurov too
Vexual: shes devo and needs help
mircea_popescu: devthedev this chan is for discussing bitcoin finance.
devthedev: I failed earlier and sent .25BTC to the wrong address, lol
Vexual: is the iminent monsoon relevant?
jurov: Vexual, time to reset the markov chain?
Vexual: well i think monsoon is relevant to finance through the ages
ozbot: 1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1768 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.5349% in 10d 14h 40m 2s
Vexual: it may be time to lock the cellar
Vexual: what is this calculation?
jurov: Vexual: next difficulty estimate
gribble: benkay was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 11 hours, 45 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <benkay> simply accept that they have a bigger stick than you and so can
KRS1: you cache has a problem mp
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09016666 = 0.2705 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00290648 = 1.4532 BTC [-] {8}
jurov: it closes Feb 28 iirc
KRS1: check varnish jurov
jurov: yes. then there are 5.6bn on March 31 and 14bn on July 14
jurov: KRS1: you mean the blog?
Vexual: half price furys delivered in 2 days
jurov: it's gandi's shit.. too lazy to host it myself properly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00288614 = 0.7215 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up?
jurov: no KRS meant my blog
KRS1: looks like a timeout value or something is amiss
jurov: they had some hosting problems today
jurov: we'll see if that persists
KRS1: carrier grade network problems aside, it amazes me hosting companies can't have 100% uptime
Vexual: your network never goes down?
diametric: KRS1: even Tier 1 providers ultimately do maintenance
KRS1: i have a friend who hosts out of a small datacenter in texas..he has the choice of like 8 different providers and can fail over at any time
diametric: but nobody is going to say 100%, but a lot of them have 4-5 9's
diametric: Also large datacenters are managed poorly. I used to work for Digex, which was then bought by Worldcom, and then bought by Verizon.
mircea_popescu: you could have a dedicated 10gbit pipe for your blog. that wouldn't be 100%, it'd be "all those instances when you get hit with less than 10gbps"
KRS1: there are 100%'ers out there..in fact I think its quite common for hosting servers..not necessarily php applications though
diametric: The shit show that went on there was amazing
diametric: mircea_popescu: top tier hosting, we hosted all of JP Morgans main infrastructure, USPS, Ford Motor Company, tons of big players. We one had a janitor take out an entire farm because he backed his mop handle into the emergency power stop switch
Vexual: i remmeber all my isps log were available and mistyped passwords got logged
diametric: Unix Tech Ops would routine fuck in the datacenters too
KRS1: mircea_popescu I'm specifically talking uptime, not throughput though..your servers should always be accessible..hosting php apps, application level hosting however, is a completely different situation and agreed, almost impossible to host applicactions with 100% availability
mircea_popescu: KRS1 well yes, but it quickly becomes an academic point. "system is online, it does nothing but reply to pings"
KRS1: I'd fuck that in a datacenter
KRS1: well with OS availability, ssh, for instance
diametric: KRS1: a lot of top tier 1 providers throw hissy fits too.
diametric: Like Cogent de-peers with people every week
mircea_popescu: what else are they do to ? think : if they fucked in each other's dcs more...
ozbot: DIS IZ WHY I'M HOT (zef remix) - Die Antwoord - YouTube
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mircea_popescu: by all accounts the privacy-friendly exchange eloped with about 350k worth of elopement-friendly dollars of naive customers'
KRS1: diametric so are you saying? Customers at each datacenter in your example are cut off?
Vexual: i like the phrase elopement friendly
ozbot: Gavin will visit the Council on Foreign Relations
diametric: KRS1: if Tier 1 providers de-peer from each other it could result in partial outages
KRS1: what mircea_popescu sounds more reasonable, I've been the victim of that too, where some of my customers were able to reach my hosts, but not others
diametric: mircea_popescu: i have no idea who that is
KRS1: thats up to that DC staff to fix with their providers
KRS1: but temporary outages..no
diametric: KRS1: yeah, but would you really call that 100% uptime?
mircea_popescu: diametric he's a guy working in a dc, seeing it with exactly the same eyes
diametric: but then once you attach exceptions like that, your definition of 100% is kind of bunk anyway.
diametric: mircea_popescu: ahh, well its been many years since I worked in that space. I left it around 2004
KRS1: diametric bad routes are not the fault of the datacenter, but the network provider connecting to them dude
diametric: mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised the SLAs some customers demand
KRS1: mircea_popescu its not uncommon for requests, and provision of 100% uptime
KRS1: application level (php hosting for instance) is out of the question i think
mircea_popescu: for instance : i get first dibs on any piece of hardware replaced-as-broken anywhere on the pipe to my machines
diametric: KRS1: from the customers point of view it doesn't matter. They don't want to hear why your provider has issues, they want to know why you didn't anticipate them and have alternatives in place to mitigate it.
diametric: which is why you rarely see anyone offer 100% uptime, it just opens you up to fail
KRS1: diametric i see 100% uptime guarantee quite often.
KRS1: Idk..I've been doing this almost 20 years, I could be wrong though.
diametric: (*) [ insert list of reasons that don't count as downtime ]
Vexual: not an actual guarantee
ozbot: Die Antwoord - Rich Bitch - YouTube
KRS1: +1 to Vexual for leet Die Antwoord selections
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 18000 @ 0.001 = 18 BTC [+]
gesell1: what tha? I received an API key email from btct.co, anyone else?
mircea_popescu: buncha people got them. i don't recall what the reason was supposed to be
KRS1: access to historical data, trades.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what happens should anyone claim they didn't do X trade now.
KRS1: ya it was kinda like that ugly girlfriend from the past (read: a moped) that shows her ugly face again in front of your friends
Vexual: yeah i dint sell all that am at 5
mircea_popescu: i remember all the "omg asicminer is the biggest ting ever" back this summer.
Vexual: how much did you get if yuo helf since forum?
KRS1: chaang noi was all over that
mircea_popescu: doing like 5-10 btc a day. holy shit what happened to bitcoin's star non-mpex corp ? are they actually in the shitter ?
Vexual: theres worse places to be
Vexual: perhaps one has an apricot farm
mircea_popescu: an all-girls highschool shitter may be a great place to smoke. the bitcoin shitter is full of retards.
Vexual: gotta pay 1 euro to get in too
Vexual: or is it 5 euro cents?
Vexual: i was broke wehn i went to the continent
Vexual: mp gets you into the highschool for zero
Apocalyptic: pankkake, are you watching Hollande's speech ?
pankkake: I don't follow politics at all
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0028572 = 2.8572 BTC [-] {6}
pankkake: from what I understand our compatriots are caring about his personal life now… what the fuck
Apocalyptic: it diverts the attention from important matters
pankkake: yeah, like get your dick sucked by your secretary and so you can bomb foreign countries
Apocalyptic: he's almost stuttering and his voice is quite high
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pankkake> from what I understand our compatriots are caring about his personal life now… what the fuck << gotta keep up with les americains
pankkake: while being so pround of not being like them
Apocalyptic: now he's saying that not having a CDI at 25 years is unacceptable...
ozbot: Lil Kim Music Video 14 The Rain by Missy Elliott 1997 - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55499779 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Watch: Everything you need to know about the French president's love life"
Apocalyptic: mircea, it's a job contract for an undetermined timeframe, very hard to break for the employers
mircea_popescu: bwahahaha why the fuck do i need to know anything about some grasshopper-headed frenchie socialist.
Apocalyptic: basically the holly grail of employement in France
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.555 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: they have those here too. except they're very easy to terminate.
pankkake: honestly I like the CDD (which has a duration) better. it's actually harder to break, well until it ends of course
mircea_popescu: this is a point. pretty much the only way to terminate those is to pay up
pankkake: sadly you can only have the same CDD only 2 or 3 times
mircea_popescu: "16.34 So how will the French react to Francois Hollande's refusal to answer questions about whether Valerie Trierweiler is still the First Lady?
mircea_popescu: Remember 77 per cent of French people recently surveyed say his private life is of no concern to them."
mircea_popescu: i'm glad you mentioned this. absolute textbook study in how teh press doth not matter at all.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.55999728 = 3.36 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: herpderp " Impatience is growing among some, as he continues to discuss foreign and domestic policy..." derpyderp the public does not care so here's some more of the retarded shit that preoccupies us"
ozbot: Lil' Kim & Phil Collins - In The Air Tonite (HD / Dirty) - YouTube
pankkake: it's quite funny that while he's probably annoyed about the attention on his private life, he also approved a law so that we can have our own NSA
mircea_popescu: i don't quite understand why politicians still maintain the facade that the press people are like... people.
Apocalyptic: pankkake, he already have it for a long time I thinl
mircea_popescu: it stands to reason you'd talk to them as if they were sorta obnoxious teenager at best
Vexual: imagine yourself as a politician
pankkake: yeah well the law is basically approving things that existed already, but were illegal
mircea_popescu: Vexual i'd have two nuns, one on each side. the left one'd carry the soap, the right one the ruler.
Vexual: you watched black lagoon
mircea_popescu: and the press conference'd start with a nails and handkerchief examination.
pankkake: which is actually one of the "justifications" for the law. "we're doing it already". lol
pankkake: in France journalists are basically employed by the politicians. they give interviews to whoever they want, they subsidize their crap no one wants to read, etc.
Vexual: and judges complain theres nothing to read
Vexual: buy time and call it a day
ozbot: N.E.R.D. - Everyone Nose - YouTube
pankkake: and that's only direct subsidies, anything bought by high schools etc. isn't accounted for
Vexual: you think you waste money?
ozbot: Willie Nelson - Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain - Midnight Special 1980 HQ - YouTube
Vexual: you be nice to those gils
Vexual: or il come and poke a crocodile up your arse
Vexual: and they're infinitly more motile than alligators
Vexual: anyone who thinks i sound violent might like to taste the irony
mike_c: isn't it a bit early to be wasted vex?
ozbot: KLF - 3 a m eternal (Complete) - YouTube
Vexual: 41 degrees celcius and 65 percent humidity
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 22968 @ 0.001 = 22.968 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 29769 @ 0.001 = 29.769 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: N.W.A. - Fab 5 Freddie & N.W.A. in Manhattan - New York City (1991) - YouTube
ozbot: Dr Dre ft. Snoop Dogg - Still D.R.E - YouTube
ozbot: Snoop Dogg Ft Pharrell - Beautiful HD - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00008585 = 0.1717 BTC [-]
Vexual: 10bc the shit should be in jamacia
ozbot: Damian Marley - Welcome to Jamrock ( Lyrics ) - YouTube
ozbot: Lee "Scratch" Perry - Pum Pum - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55999999 BTC [+]
ozbot: Norah Jones - Summertime - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6944 @ 0.00009039 = 0.6277 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.102 BTC [+]
ozbot: Bob Dylan - Isis (1976) on Vimeo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0491 = 0.1473 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: Arlo Guthrie - Coming Into Los Angeles (live 1969) HD 0815007 - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04893333 = 0.2936 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0485 = 0.2425 BTC [-]
ozbot: Billy Bunks - Strumpets - YouTube
ozbot: Cross Bred Mongrels - Overgrown Town - YouTube
ozbot: Hilltop hoods- dumb enough - YouTube
ozbot: Black Eyed Peas My Humps Outro "So Real" Cleanly Edited Extended Version - YouTube
gribble: Current Blocks: 280485 | Current Difficulty: 1.7895469510532405E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 282239 | Next Difficulty In: 1754 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 5 hours, 50 minutes, and 46 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2018000299.28 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.76599
Vexual: millions arent what they were
truffles: dont worry nsa got that covered digitally :D
truffles: still going strong with the music
Vexual: no im starting to see 50 hetz
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00508637 = 1.0173 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00506405 = 1.0128 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 224 @ 0.00387999 = 0.8691 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 970 @ 0.0028562 = 2.7705 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00283753 = 0.2185 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1291 @ 0.00280155 = 3.6168 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 255 @ 0.0028 = 0.714 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00280001 = 0.154 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 179 @ 0.0028 = 0.5012 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.00279 = 0.3069 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Silverchair - Tomorrow - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00278 = 0.2502 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 795 @ 0.00048998 = 0.3895 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00084234 = 14.3198 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 299 @ 0.00277 = 0.8282 BTC [-] {4}
ozbot: Silverchair - Israel's Son (Live @ MuchMusic) - YouTube
Vexual: he smokes bong with our politicians with no sex
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2700 @ 0.00270519 = 7.304 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.002705 = 0.2867 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02694696 = 0.1078 BTC [-]
Vexual: and now when they ask who you'd go gay for, you can say silverchair]
ozbot: Silver Chair - Suicidal Dreams (Live at Much Music) - YouTube
jurov: lol so supposedly MPEx "is designed to mesmerize potential users, making them invest lots of time (that old chestnut), and confuse them into losing their BTC; all-the-while awarding a sense of superiority."
Vexual: soulds like marketing genius
pankkake: best criticism to date on that thread though
Vexual: an users in the thread?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 159 @ 0.00264979 = 0.4213 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]
Vexual: obviously youre ther with your clever quiffs pankkakke
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00256434 = 1.0257 BTC [-] {9}
jurov: nah, he's only paid troll
pankkake: what's a quiff? isn't it a pussy fart?
Vexual: youre always on like donkey kong
pankkake: I have utterly failed to monetize my trolling
Vexual: i don tknow, i think its a hairstyle and i misused the term
pankkake: hopefully at the end of the month I'll have a better health and will do actual stuff
Vexual: now you're channeling me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 59 @ 0.00388 = 0.2289 BTC [+]
Vexual: im gonna give dr greg a mouthful just coz hes a fuckwit
ozbot: Silverchair - Shade (Live @ Cambridge Hotel 95) - YouTube
Vexual: and ive got the patent on stinky shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.04627854 = 1.8511 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 42 @ 0.0037 = 0.1554 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: seriously that guy is a fucking bannaa
Vexual: the only reason he has a phd is because noone watnted too read his hsit anymore
Vexual: hes a karate expert with a soe back, doesnt compute
mike_c: new website announcement. assbot thinks its amazing.
mike_c: for those not afraid of a little javascript, a mpex option P/L tool:
Vexual: anytime he fucks up he blames his tools
ozbot: Option Analysis - Btc Alpha
mike_c: and an overview page for mpex stocks:
ozbot: S.MPOE Analysis - Btc Alpha
mike_c: not as much javascript, a blog post:
ozbot: When Does BitBet Money Come In? - Btc Alpha
mike_c: thanks. please send bug reports/suggestions.
Vexual: is it ever gonna be 1.0?
mircea_popescu: i'm unemployed, mods please clean up my mess. i'm a quick study, believe me when i say so, pay no mind to the fact i can't be fucking bothered to figure out where my post goes
mike_c: blog is a piece of it, yeah. inaugural post is up.
jurov: what is "correct price"?
Vexual: just bitcointalk avatar
Vexual: if i put a picture on there ill have my shirt open
pankkake: mike_c: rss feed would be nice
mike_c: yeah, thanks. i'll add one.
Vexual: yall know blog are gay right?
Vexual: u wanna be a pimp, monetise usenet
mike_c: blog is just a piece, if you use mpex hopefully the tools are useful.
Vexual: my website is one jpeg and 3 links
Vexual: no rss coz it never changes
Vexual: and no longer existanty
Vexual: i know theres more punters since 92
jurov: mike_c i can't wrap my head about shorting puts, how is the profit computed there?
jurov: 100% means you will get all your investment back?
Vexual: thats yours huh pankkake?
mike_c: 100% means if you sell puts for 1btc you will keep it all
mike_c: calculation: is.. strike / (1 + price) i think for value of put. lemme check
mike_c: put value = (strike/spot - 1). so when you sell, your profit is whatever you got for the sale minus that.
jurov: it makes little sense if you don't put collateral into picture
mike_c: as far as ROI you mean
mike_c: ROI is different from profit, but yeah, that would be helpful.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll find out in two days, maybe.
mike_c: one thing i think it helps with is finding the most profitable strike given an 'expected price'.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999997 = 0.25 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 20000 @ 0.001 = 20 BTC [+]
jurov: in ff after selecting and unselecting several rows, i'm getting error in highcharts code
mike_c: hm. thanks, i'll investigate.
ozbot: People have made blogs pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
jurov: put that into niggers.txt
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 she had one but can't hardly be arsed to update it iirc
ozbot: When Does BitBet Money Come In? - Btc Alpha
mike_c: i was surprised by the results too
mircea_popescu: i wasn't cause i have them, but the fact is there's so much counterintuitive if not outright fucking weird shit going on in btc
mircea_popescu: that really the lukewarm derpage people waste their time with is a sore waste.
mircea_popescu: mike_c "as well as the starting wager of whoever created the bet." is this sound ?
mike_c: i didn't want it to throw off the results. what i wanted to see was whether other people are being attracted to bets early.
kakobrekla: how about adding a weight adjusted line to that chart, plain linear?
pizzaman1337: imo that curve is a result of the "new bets" and "closing soon" sections on the left hand side. More visibility, more bets.
mike_c: i also ran the numbers bucketing by weight instead of by time, but it gets weird because bets can close early when there is still a high weight.
mircea_popescu: yes but see, a large part of late action is rebalancing of odds either according to new developments or others positioning.
mircea_popescu: and since it's impossible to take out later readjustments of the bettor, you can't really take out his original stake either. course i suppose what exactly you're trying to see
mike_c: i have the numbers with those bets in as well. not as different as you would think. the sum of btc isn't that high.
mircea_popescu: i know (and for that matter house bets don't change much either)
mircea_popescu: more arguing for the principle of the thing than anything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 132 @ 0.001 = 0.132 BTC [+]
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: I used to log/chart mpex prices, but then the spread on options got too high for me, so I stopped maintaining it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00008601 = 0.4301 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: anyone maintaining some blog related to btc finance ?
Apocalyptic: I saw a discussion about it yeah, he wanted to go for a code afaik
mircea_popescu: im sure the "bitcoin finance" blogspace is not saturated now,
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 6575 @ 0.001 = 6.575 BTC [+]
mike_c: mine is probably limited by the fact that i don't intend to waste time dissecting the scams.
Apocalyptic: "bitcoin finance" quality blogspace won't that's for sure
gribble: Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 12.24051 % based on data since last change | 16.09483 % based on data for last three days
ozbot: 1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1741 blocks | Estimated Change: 12.1541% in 10d 14h 49m 22s
kakobrekla: bitbet doesnt do negative bets, so bet must be it will pour in
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 153 @ 0.00256 = 0.3917 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: so if you put 100 on wont and 100 on no
kakobrekla: just dont start a butthurt fb page after you fuck up!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00254332 = 0.1144 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.54111766 = 9.199 BTC [-] {7}
Apocalyptic: nice blog mike_c, looking forward to the "Non-equity investments" anlysis
mike_c: thanks! it won't be long.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 288 @ 0.00247982 = 0.7142 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.00243 = 0.5103 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: i have a serious interest in gambling. I include finance under that category.
Apocalyptic: pizzaman1337, i obviously meant fiat-base finance instruments
mike_c: my day job is engineering.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00243 = 2.43 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: finance is shorthand for resource allocation. gambling is shorthand for risk pricing
mircea_popescu: these two activities are often found jointly in nature, like any house building will involve carpentry and masonry
Apocalyptic: mircea, wait, you're saying risk pricing isn't a subdomain of finance ?
Apocalyptic: i've always included the latter in the former somehow
mircea_popescu: it works both ways, gamblers are notoriously bad at keeping the bills paid in time
mircea_popescu: even if they do have the money. they "forget" or whateverthefuck.
mike_c: but not by definition. there are gamblers that are responsible with money.
mircea_popescu: obviously people being people there'l;l be exceptions to any stereotype
mike_c: so you are saying gambling=carpentry and finance=house building. in that case, i am interested in the carpentry aspect of finance.
mike_c: although that is probably pigeon-holing it a bit.
benkay: what in this metaphor is the practice of acquiring capital?
mircea_popescu: did hellmuth actually win any one wsop/wsoe main event ?
mike_c: he was youngest main event winner for a long time
benkay: some people practice risk management, right? and others practice 'finance' (whatever that is) - carpentry and housebuilding. but what about simply acquiring power and wealth?
ozbot: Phil Hellmuth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mike_c: industrialists acquire wealth, they are not financiers.
benkay: mike_c: where's the btc alpha feed?
mike_c: no rss feed yet. coming this week.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the hellmuth guy, i recall this horrible loss to a romanian player, who had called a re-raise with a low pair or something
mircea_popescu: hellmuth folded a walking back to huston arrangement and then got all pissy
mike_c: yeah, his nickname is the poker brat for a reason.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.00084307 = 28.4536 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 127 @ 0.0028473 = 0.3616 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53100003 BTC [-]
ozbot: Phil Hellmuth outburst vs a Romanian at WSOP 2008 - YouTube
TomServo: in case anyone else was curious
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00501005 = 0.1102 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.04575999 = 1.144 BTC [-] {6}
Duffer1: other than being unprofessional is there some extra meaning or penalty for name calling?
mike_c: tournament director can give you a time penalty, making you sit out for awhile and get blinded off.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1500 @ 0.001 = 1.5 BTC [+]
TomServo: Micropayments for digital publishers.
mike_c: paywall for content. like tinypass.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.005 = 0.19 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23077 @ 0.00084307 = 19.4555 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
Duffer1: so apparently kanye has named amazon.com in his suit against anonymous coinye devs
ozbot: Kanye West Sues -- STOP USING MY FACE ... On Virtual Currency | TMZ.com
wao-ender: The Bitcoin Investment Trust has proved to be popular, raising $61.1m from investors within three months of its launch.
benkay: hey tomservo do you like fish sticks?
ozbot: Fishsticks joke on kanye west - YouTube
TomServo: haha, #coinyecoin just got cleared
TomServo: (CLEAR USERS used by coinyewest)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53100002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 8500 @ 0.001 = 8.5 BTC [+]
KRS1: If anyone wants to come and meet me and come to the North American Bitcoin Conference:
ozbot: North American Bitcoin Conference
KRS1: Miami Beach is beautiful almost year round.
KRS1: How do I answer that? You want my first name? First and last?
KRS1: I don't have a title like Duke or anything.
mircea_popescu: what's with this "we're organising a conference next week" thing
KRS1: Idk just found the link myself.
Apocalyptic: <KRS1> I don't have a title like Duke or anything. // a shame really
KRS1: It would be cool to be a Count though.
KRS1: Maybe wear a cape in the winter.
KRS1: Pretty much warm year round in Mimai though, and I'd look funny.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 30000 @ 0.001 = 30 BTC [+]
benkay: what are you driving that with, mike_c?
ozbot: Adrian and Jacob retiring as Django BDFLs | Holovaty.com
benkay: speaking as someone who ekes out the odd food credit derping on django, shit has no future.
benkay: python has hella robust data science and robust outsider community, but man the web story is fn sad
mike_c: hehe. nah. django is a great accelerator. lot of out-of-the-box stuff that works well. like that rss-generator.
benkay: i'd hazard that the bitcoin alpha biz req's are a little different from my deploy
pankkake: well, that json feeds would be nice. write a spec and patch software!
kakobrekla: i dont want to commit suicide down the lane.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00084035 = 10.4203 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
Apocalyptic: mike_c, regarding your BitBet and MPex analysis on btcalpha, you claim these are "zero-asset company". I don't think this term is appropriate as they hold at the very least intangible assets such as goodwill resulting from their userbase and the reputation among other things
pankkake: well then is there such a thing as a zero asset company?
mike_c: i possibly made up that term as a differentiator from mp's "nonzero asset corporation"
ozbot: Accounting for the nonzero asset corporation. The MPEx standard. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Pope
mike_c: ah, no, i didn't make it up
mike_c: "This accounting system is not intended for zero asset corporations"
mike_c: i better term might be "zero tangible assets company", but that is a mouthful.
Apocalyptic: yeah was thinking about that exact formulation
Apocalyptic: <pankkake> well then is there such a thing as a zero asset company? // how would you define it ?
mike_c: it's defined as 0 book value.
diametric: pankkake: this thread is amazing. i just started reading back through the posts on it.
diametric: people are really convinced mircea_popescu is a scam artist
Apocalyptic: "Usually a holding company is an asset-less company" what, I thought a holding company holds share of other companies, which are classified as assets
pankkake: that's not really bothering me. I wouldn't pay the 30 BTC fee myself, nor do I desire to hold MPOE
pankkake: but the complete refusal to understand what things are…
pankkake: I have my opinion, and I'm going to say dumb shit till the end
pankkake: no matter how stupid it makes me look
pankkake: and those guys defend scams to the death
Apocalyptic: pankkake, because in their mind there is no way they could ever be wrong
pankkake: so you don't want on mpex anyway
pankkake: but being wrong is how you learn!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 21 @ 0.02510002 = 0.5271 BTC [-] {4}
Duffer1: "Actually useful websites like crypto-trade or havelock as well as coloured coins will continue to gain traction as this shitty scheme dies out."
Duffer1: professional grade trolling right there
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 161 @ 0.001 = 0.161 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic the "zero asset" thing is a term of art. a company that retains none of its income but distributes it all as dividends.
mircea_popescu: it has a better risk profile for the bitcoin investor than the alternative (if you review the early history of btc scams, 2011s, you'll see most corps turned scams once the "ceo" confronted the problem of "we have cashflow. what to do with that cash ?".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: somehow "distribute it" never comes to mind. a problem fiat shares, for that matter. (buffett has some great comments on the topic)
Namworld: Comments? Is there readily availabe sources to read about that?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 262 @ 0.003889 = 1.0189 BTC [+]
ozbot: UPDATE 1-Penis pumps cost U.S. government millions, watchdog cries waste