mircea_popescu: by its very nature this is a rare occurence, best handled by exceptional means
mircea_popescu: a protocol is exactly the opposite of exceptional means.
herbijudlestoids: i give you the requirement, you must meet it, or not get paid.
lippoper: leave all electronics behind ;-)
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Who really doesn't matter. My "anonymity" is merely at the behest of polite requests to people who could confirm otherwise. Who talks to who is always difficult to hide. Focus on hiding the subject and the message.
mircea_popescu: i mean... i still dunno what you're trying to accomplish. talk to the entire world secretly ?
lippoper: Well, that's your first problem ;-)
mircea_popescu: so you are trying to talk to identified entity X without anyone but X knowing it's you talking to them ?
BingoBoingo: If everything abut you is secret you get ignored.
mircea_popescu: fine, call in to radio shows, have a modem buzzing in the background.
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: thanks for adding some useless lines to the convo
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the q was to see if it's during or post delivery that the threat begins
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids my general point here being that once you yielded to the adversary the identification of the channel,
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Imma just adding further reading. Sometimes the noise between the lines can have meaning. Even if it isn't obvious in your particular use case as you imagine.
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herbijudlestoids: there could be a jabber server, irc server, even direct i2p-tunnel messages...
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids so you're trying to gain some destandardization back. already a step in the right direction, but why do it this windows style.
herbijudlestoids: what im saying is i can walk into the city, reaver a WPS pin, login using tails and communicate over irc/jabber/whatever over i2p
mircea_popescu: well i have the converse problem : not sure how to make it clearer.
herbijudlestoids: dear diary: today i hired mircea_popescu as a security consultant, and he told me to magically contact my counterpart to let them know they need to listen to eadio on certain frequency at certain time
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids this is a decent point, in that you'll both need to be on the same page.
mircea_popescu: there's a long distance from this to making "a meta-protective protocol" tho.
mircea_popescu: just finish each message with "next message in the form of lolcats"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Twist in the plot: key under the rug can't withstand the torque necessary to turn the lock and breaks inside...
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: these are literally the problems OTR was designed to solve lol
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I an imagining less explosions, but kind of yes. Sabotaged key under the rug that is both useless and leaves a trace of attempts at its use.
herbijudlestoids: there is another geek, somewhere on the internet. we work on a project together. if someone wanted to attack that project, the easiest way would be to find out who ran it
herbijudlestoids: it has to be impossible for anyone to ever use those communicatoins to find out who is running the project.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i told you like 50 times we are using OTR to encrypt conversations that take place over i2p
mircea_popescu: if for no other reason then because it is probably feasible for the adversary to build a list of people and then cross names off
mircea_popescu: they won't KNOW it's you, they will however know it's none of the other schmucks.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Why not turtle routing if it is only two known parties that can exchange credentials in person?
herbijudlestoids: i dunno what a twinkle is, but my name is sina, so close enough :P
herbijudlestoids: if i wanted F2F i would use gnunet, but i want intermediary nodes to take the traffic load, i dont want to talk directly to the counterparts IP
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Turtle routing is kind of like i2p except the assumption exists you actually know and meat/meet everyone you connect to.
herbijudlestoids: why on earth would i persist OTR conversations into the blockchain
mircea_popescu: and if it is, you can stuff bytes in altcoin block chain.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform by the way : have you considered this is probably a major driver for the altcoins ? do some secret messaging, in ten years nobody will exist with a copy of the blockchain anyway
herbijudlestoids: i definitely do not want to persist anything in any blockchain!
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mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids your notion that stuff going through the internet is ephemeral boggles me :D
herbijudlestoids: asciilifeform: i make that assumption, but i why would i WILLINGLY persist something in the blockchain
mircea_popescu: because it's better to fuck willingly than to get fucked ?
herbijudlestoids: asciilifeform: in that case i would always use freenet, but i dont want persistence and prefer 10,000 lamers to have the packets in their NIC than on their disk.
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herbijudlestoids: asciilifeform: thanks for your generosity i guess, what is this?
herbijudlestoids: i dont take any synthetics, l-tyrosine is a metabolic precursor you can easily obtain from food :)
BingoBoingo: I only brought Zyprexa up, because Vitamin H would have been too obvious...
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: If you want catecholamine precursors though Lima/Fava beans work just fine
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: um, no, the beans contain L-DOPA which is an acute dopamine precursor, l-tyrosine is much more effective and less acute, precursor to all catecholamines
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Your chemistry isn't wrong, but it is missing 4 steps and 9 pathways.
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BingoBoingo: Also there is no such thing is an acute precursor unless you want to talk prodrugs like codeine
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BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: I think you read pharmacology equivalents to the National Enquirer a bit too much.
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: im not a neuroscientist, but i did used to work at the largest neuroscience research facility in australia. consider my knowledge on the topic a poor carbon copy
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: 5-HTP is mostly a precusor of things that aren't catecholamines anyway
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: I haven't taken a bio class since 7th grade.
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: you misunderstand, i was referring to 5-htp being a direct serotonin precursor (equiv of L-DOPA for dopamine) and l-tryptophan being broader/less acute
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: But in vitro most 5-HTP becomes various histamines as opposed to becoming serotinin.
BingoBoingo: 5-HTP generallyis dangerous because it is a histamine precursor rather than a serotonin precursor.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Well, I'm not in the habit of cutting vexual open.
ozbot: Striatal dopamine terminals release serotonin afte... [Brain Res. 1990] - PubMed - NCBI
herbijudlestoids: "Peripheral administration of 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP) to rats causes 'wet dog' shakes and a parallel elevation of brain serotonin (5-HT) levels. "
BingoBoingo: And nicotinic receptor inhibitors like succicholine cause paralasis.
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BingoBoingo: Most serotogenic receptors from the five documented families happen in the bowels.
herbijudlestoids: we have come a long way from your question of wanting to remove complacency
herbijudlestoids: i suggested something to increase endogenous adrenaline and dopamine together.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: And now we are talking about shit.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: The thing is meth can do that cheaper. Combine meth and an MAOI and you can do it fast and incredibly cheap with incredible safety.
cazalla: that zyprexa link.. why would a 6 year old be on that
cazalla: and what type of parent would give consent
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herbijudlestoids: cazalla: they go to a conference, there is big pharma salespeople there, there is other doctors who were paid by big pharma to do studies, et
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: You know we only whack you because we like you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what, it is cheap. cheapest thing on the street.
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: this is the first irc chan that i have hung out in since probly 2010...should give you a clue :)
mircea_popescu: no, it's cheap. go to wherever the homeless gather where you live and ask.
cazalla: herbijudlestoids: i know how it works but it's just shocking a 6 year old would be taking it, my dad takes a small dose to manage his schizophrenia and it did wonders for him but still, a 6 year old?
mircea_popescu: it's like the altchain of drugs, every fuckwit can cook it.
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mircea_popescu: cazalla that drug cost a 100 mn to create and 5 bn to market.
mircea_popescu: you think that can be paid off on the backs of the five hundred old people with an actual need for it ?
herbijudlestoids: cazalla: if your marketing strategy is so successful that it encompasses the entire 21-65yo spectrum...what do you do? expand the market ;)
BingoBoingo: I knew plenty of kids in elementary school on the Desoxyn
mircea_popescu: benkay what's legit for jesus isn't legit for random fuckwit
cazalla: not familiar with that one BingoBoingo, zyprexa gave my dad a sane life though
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In Detroit,St Louis, and Chicago the most common caliber used in homicides was .22LR
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cazalla: 3 year olds need root canal?
cazalla: must've given her pepsi instead of breastmilk
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well problem probably isn't government stats in this case. In this case it is people who want to bake a murder want to use an expendable and cheap weapon.
mircea_popescu: so i guess the real gangstas are the people with daisies and red ryders in their mtv videos
mircea_popescu: as opposed to all the fakers with platform machine guns and anti tank missile launchers
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For small game fillinf hollow points with phosphorous has its virtues
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Marks where the lead settles, by yes scorching the wound tunnel.
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herbijudlestoids: i will give up my 0.02BTC to anyone who wants to come to aus and challenge tony abbott to a fight
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Plenty of sandbars here. Talk him into a meeting on the mississippi. Plenty of sand bars with questionable jurisdiction.
BingoBoingo: US Senators used to end their careers on those all of the time.
herbijudlestoids: i used to think i hated our previous, conservative, 4 term PM, john howard
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BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: How do you know pt 3 isn't set in the back of an ambulance?
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herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i dunno how i can exactly explain it...but i guess its very similar to bush snr vs jnr. policywise, identical...but you feel embarrassed when you see them overseas representing you
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mircea_popescu: "As a stage of the launch will release password protected .rar files for important downloads, followed by passwords a time later."
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ozbot: Twitter / LionelMedia: Maxcoin is the new Dogecoin. ...
mircea_popescu: the funny thing, of course, is that he's following mp mandated policy TO SPITE ME
mircea_popescu: my life would have been infinitely boring-er without bitcoin, for srs.
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: To think all you would have before would have been the slave girls and the fortune
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I mean who still has FPGAs to sink them nao...
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo has enlightened me, i had no idea how many videos of black people nearly fighting each other but not, were on youtube
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure we just need the set of people with FPGAs and who would like to luke-jr Max Keister
mircea_popescu: check it out, realsolid (of solidcoin scam fame) is like... raising ipos and whatnot
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He went scam on that IPO like months ago.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im pretty sure that's being taken care of.
nubbins`: you want a psychosis inducer, lsd is a poor choice
nubbins`: try atropine or scopolamine type stuff
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Actually if you want speed dramamine is the fastest route.
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nubbins`: herbijudlestoids, one's as good as the other
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Neither of those are very good. Delerium versus psychosis is Riddler versus Joker.
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nubbins`: i was gonna let the spelling slide
nubbins`: bingo, i'm not up on my batman villains
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Thank you markov chain!!! Shekel me nao.
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nubbins`: you give some schmo lsd and he's just as likely to achieve complete awareness
mircea_popescu: "you can't logically prove my complete awareness is incomplete and kinda unaware!1111"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You sound like a MAXCOiner
BingoBoingo: lol, I've walked into a pole. poles have decent tits
nubbins`: dude knew what he was doing all along
nubbins`: anyway, there are plenty of virgins that have convinced themselves that sex is just a sticky wet mess
herbijudlestoids: the comments sections have ceased to be about the story and only talking about the interface
nubbins`: i don't like people who haven't taken lsd ;p
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: The trick is figuring out how many minutes ago I opened the bottle.
BingoBoingo: So around 7 UTC we get Altcoin on Slashdot?
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: me figuring it out or you figuring it out?
Vexual: if one goes to heaven with 40 virgins, do they stay that way?
nubbins`: anyway, for those of you who are aware of the "stoned ape" theory of evolution of consciousness
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But the scents differ. Ass flora and Vaginal flora are completley different flora. Basically E Coli versus Yoplait.
herbijudlestoids: "It is quoted by Ibn Kathir, in his Qur'anic Commentary, the Tafsir ibn Kathir,[8] and they are graphically described by Qur'anic commentator and polymath, al-Suyuti (died 1505), who, echoing a hasan hadith[9] from Ibn Majah,[10] wrote that the perpetual virgins will all "have appetizing vaginas", and that the "penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal".[11] "
nubbins`: condoms, what's that, a euro thing?
nubbins`: eternal erections would become gangrenous
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: You might be canadian, so it doesn't seem relevant, but they are essential anywhere aids is possible;.
nubbins`: we have aids here in canada too
nubbins`: actually, a local actor is starring in the film remake of that .txt, alongside cuba gooding jr
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo not necessarily. it could be magically arranged the blood still flows
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mircea_popescu: maybe the chosen penis just enters a hydraulic annomaly
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BingoBoingo: Good point mircea_popescu. Still. No one is making decent cheddar in there.
nubbins`: well i just mean like an airlock
nubbins`: new blood in, mild overinflation, old blood out
herbijudlestoids: www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/02/koch-brothers-palm-springs-donor-list
nubbins`: you could time the inflow to the outward thrust, to simulate knotting
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Mats_cd03: i am now the proud owner of some S.MPOE
nubbins`: ah, this place is something else
nubbins`: Mats_cd03, uncertainty and elation
Mats_cd03: hopefully ill be able to reinvest my profits into a nice deep fryer
nubbins`: why not just throw out all your pants and start wearing pyjamas?
Mats_cd03: i hear they make one that uses a centrifuge inside at 3x G to induce a delicious crisp outside chicken
Mats_cd03: i hear its... extraterrestrially delicious
Vexual: swirling a wok can do that
nubbins`: all for the low cost of having your house smell like a grease trap
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BingoBoingo: Anyone here part of the Silicon Valley circuit?
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Until they prove otherwise lusers
nubbins`: i don't think amazon is gonna carry this book
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: But I did disclose some alma maters here earlier today. If people who want into Bitcoin want to know how to navigate a WoT I make myself available... for a price.
nubbins`: i don't know what you look like so i had to draw something based on your nick
nubbins`: you're all flat, like a pankkake :(
Mats_cd03: BingoBoingo: i dont want to read logs so why dont you tell me
BingoBoingo: Lol nubbins` That goes in the -assets book right?
nubbins`: just a rough draft of course ;p
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, that's actually jborkl
mircea_popescu: bongebaungu i see you have an issue with vowel rotation
nubbins`: i tried to draw someone who looked bork-y
nubbins`: honestly i use paint markers and accidentally depressed the tip
nubbins`: then had to fix it as best i could ;(
mircea_popescu: i kinda like how my head rests securely on my beard pedestal
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you realise this is the book of the book being written right now
nubbins`: hmm, that's a bit too seinfeld for me
pankkake: though today I was more like jborkl, wore a snow hat and hat weird stuff coming in and out of my nose
mircea_popescu: pankkake did you get your face surgically removed yet ?
nubbins`: i draw a couple more but the pens started acting up
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Ah, I could hope. I've been trying to target him through blog posts
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: is he a fin services guy? i can see someone paul graham fin services on linkedin
nubbins`: ^ we already have this, altho it's pretty much read-only
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: He used to be an academic LISPer
pankkake: I'm not finished yet, but it's becoming an expensive head :(
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: The past tense might be important though
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pankkake: the bearded MP reminds me of something, but I can't really find it
nubbins`: BingoBoingo, i imagine you as some sort of cross between a kangaroo and an old lady with a visor
benkay: BingoBoingo: he used to be a commercial Lisper as well.
nubbins`: pankkake: does it remind you of mp? ;p
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: What I am looking for is someone silicon valley who needs a Bitcoin Bullshit filter.
benkay: BingoBoingo: unfortunately those who need what you have to offer are too stupid to realize they need it.
BingoBoingo: benkay: I know that, but it is only to the potential audience's peril
nubbins`: benkay: this is actually a problem with free condoms too
pankkake: I shaved yesterday, should have IPOed my glorious beard
pankkake: usually it itches, but after a month and a half it was still good
benkay: you guys can't shave my sideburns are just starting to come into bloom! i was shooting for an assets beard conference.
nubbins`: i find if you can get past the 3-week mark, the beard grows itself
benkay: not unless revenue picks up significantly
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pankkake: BingoBoingo: I am a hairy monster, but for example my brother can't grow a beard as fast as me, if at all
nubbins`: i'm waiting for someone to sponsor me as a courtroom sketch-artist type deal
nubbins`: incidentally the last two zines we published were essentially this
benkay: was totally planning to, but then i dropped the well-paid infotech work to do the same thing with good friends for clients paying a third
nubbins`: benkay, i used to work for a company called infotech
nubbins`: "why don't we just call our company IT?" "nah, too short"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sheriff couple of counties over still has my passport until at least May
Vexual: lol BingoBongo, I'm having similar issues
pankkake: that's what korean starcraft players do, though
nubbins`: i owned a nameless cockatiel for over 10 years
pankkake: names like "life", "cloud", "hero"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what srsys, you can't apply for a whatsitcalled
nubbins`: pankkake, i generally found that koreans had crazy email addresses
nubbins`: like fvjefgrnfd@whatever.co.kr
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I got principles and I ain't plea'in
nubbins`: one day i realized that they were just typing their names in korean on the keyboard
BingoBoingo: I paid may to many BTC for this drive through motherfucking lawyer's time back in may and I plan to waste as much of his time as I can.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: $300 or back in May 2.5 BTC that week
nubbins`: thisistheonlyonetheydidntseize@tormail.org
nubbins`: what'd that get you, a handshake?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah, dude has a drive thru
nubbins`: i thought that was a figure of speech
BingoBoingo: Fucker is happy to act as my paralegal too.
nubbins`: hi can i take your problem please
benkay: mircea_popescu: can't tell if sarcasm or irony
benkay: and if ironic what precisely the message is
BingoBoingo: If sit ain't cheap enough head into the wastes
mircea_popescu: that's okay, i can't tell which message he;s on about. we have thus achieved
benkay: <mircea_popescu> benkay splendid stragety.
nubbins`: re: "socialist millionaire" problem
pankkake: "Just like on the 1st edition VIPs get free shuttle service to and from the airport, free (4 star) hotel accomodation including breakfast (either singles or doubles at your option, no extra charge), free meals and drinks everywhere" oh. I see the point now :D
nubbins`: one nice thing about having a degree in pure mathematics is that you can grok wikipedia articles on math
BingoBoingo: I'd honestly be surprised if this matter is adjudicated in time for next year's conference.
nubbins`: i just mean sentences like "All operations are performed modulo p, or in other words, in the multiplicative group (Z/pZ)*."
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i hear a lot of work is being put into keeping us citizens from being able to travel abroad
nubbins`: and they said group theory wouldn't prove useful in real life.
pankkake: a lot of work = butt probes and cancer-giving machines?
benkay: can't say as i agree, mp. before i was limited pretty solidly on increasing revenue. nowadays, i'm only limited on revenue by my ability to find work and people to do it.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If it comes down to life and death I can walk to Nuevo Laredo and get all of the hookers. Nao though... Imma wilk my 2.5 BTC out of Mr. Drive Thru.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: best korea does that, too
mircea_popescu: benkay the sarcasm refers to what was stated not to teh reality therein described.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i was in nuevo laredo, had excellent pasta there
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I can't affirm or deny having spent any time there this summer, but pasta there "seems" to be above that availble in my native area
nubbins`: fun fact, the dollar store sells fake Moleskine notebooks for $1
Vexual: nubs not really paper?
nubbins`: Vexual, just a brand name. no moles were harmed
nubbins`: they even have the elastic band and the bookmark
mircea_popescu: fun fact. apud gt, nevyyezdnoy=travel abroad, vyyezdnoy=exit
Vexual: and the french is proper
nubbins`: it's actually pretty hard to bind a book with thread so poorly that it falls apart
nubbins`: i actually let my passport expire
nubbins`: have to get a new picture taken this week
nubbins`: gotta say, it rots my guts when they don't stamp the pages in order
jborkl: Nice drawing, is that original?
nubbins`: jborkl: yeah, part of the upcoming first issue of -assets Quarterly
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, just the way i am, i guess
nubbins`: would you buy a notebook and start writing on page 7?
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mircea_popescu: "would you pick up a chick and start by fucking her in the ass ?"
Vexual: i hope you get your visa stamped on the cover
mircea_popescu: if i ever visit nubbins` household i'm writing into all the new noteboox at random locations
nubbins`: i bet you eat all the chocolate in your advent calendars on the first day too, don't ya
jborkl: Heh, I am left handed so I sometimes start at the back. Drives the wife nuts
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: there came a point where we had enough scrap paper that we were able to stop buying notebooks and start making them
mircea_popescu: nubbins` dude, i will DRINK FROM THE MIDDLE OF YOUR BOTTLES
nubbins`: jborkl: funny, i actually start reading magazines from the back
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mircea_popescu: you'll have some liquid, then a pause, then more liquid
jborkl: Wait, where are sticking that straw? Is this still about picking up the chick?
nubbins`: i think they start in the middle
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Vexual: mp posts a lot of public nudes
herbijudlestoids: if it exploits only windows why did adobe release emergency patch for all OS, even including the unsupported linux version
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: do you have some tumblr blog of photos of (what i assume are) eastern europeans who are weirdly out of place naked?
jborkl: Heh mp has pictures of slush naked
herbijudlestoids: i dun get it...your friends like to be naked at regular social events?
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: What is so hard to believe?
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KRS-One: Looks like a fat dyke convention.
KRS-One: Probably smells kind of like fish there.
pankkake: only one nipple pierced, that always drives me crazy
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: its not that i disbelieve, just not sure i understand
jborkl: Lol, Santa is creeping me out
pankkake: how dare you not be symmetrical
nubbins`: pankkake: many women do this out of concern for future breastfeeding
KRS-One: pankkake theres a word for that..doesnt mean its bad one way or the other
BingoBoingo: Tis the problem with the TSR model. DEA gets all of the meta-NSA tools and the imagination to do parallel reconstruction
KRS-One: haha drinking pabst blue ribbon beer
nubbins`: idea is that the fistula formed when the piercing heals can clog milk ducts
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Would you yourself rather wear clothes or not wear clothes?
nubbins`: granted, there are a lot of milk ducts, maybe a dozen or so if i'm not mistaken
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu nubbins`:ONly if tard operate the needles.
Vexual: there might be other forces at play here
nubbins`: but apparently it causes problems frequently enough that it's advised against doing both
jborkl: Wtf , this is going downhill
nubbins`: don't want him swallowing a barbell
Vexual: did they sompare other life choices of the pierced?
mircea_popescu: kind-of why i think it improbable, the breast changes a lot during pregnancy
nubbins`: obviously you don't feed your kid poutine for its first meal
mircea_popescu: pankkake you know, no irl tits are actually symmetrical.
pankkake: nor are faces, but it's not as bothering
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BingoBoingo: pankkake: Faces could be bothering on the Sarah Jessica Parker ass end of asymmetrical
nubbins`: most people's shoulders aren't even symmetrical
nubbins`: dominant side is generally higher
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nubbins`: and blade sticks out differently
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 329 @ 0.003048 = 1.0028 BTC [+]
nubbins`: i like it when customized content *just* falls short
Vexual: i think they might wait for the next bus
pankkake: isn't ms horseface julia roberts?
nubbins`: got an ad on my facebook feed once for long-distance plans, some rasta saying "call ya bredren dem for free"
nubbins`: "warmer, facebook... warmer..."
benkay: they even got the grammar correct my my
nubbins`: maybe the most relevant thing i've ever read on the site
benkay: BingoBoingo: have you heard of Tinder?
benkay: the kids need computers to just have sex these days
nubbins`: yeah, it's like that bar all your friends used to hang out at, but now your extended family is there too
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benkay: so i actually moved back into the neighborhood in which i grew up.
BingoBoingo: benkay: It's like I go to the bar with all of these friends with smartphones. They fuck around on tinder and I just follow the golden rule of Tits bigger than ass. THen they get jelly.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Tinder is like Grindr but not for homos.
nubbins`: the neighbourhood i grew up is all old people now
benkay: i like being a part of a family story in a physical location that's endured for a little bit.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Drunk enough to know I can't be on IRC vision.
nubbins`: Chief Executive Officer of Tinder, Sean Rad, said, "the word ‘dating’ doesn't even mean shit to us. What does that even mean?”[
mircea_popescu: me on irc a coupla days ago : "hey, what were your tits/ass measures ?" "40 and 38. why ?" "because mansfield was 40 35"
BingoBoingo: So a person barely aware of self awareness must... compensate
Vexual: BingoBoingo: shut one eye
BingoBoingo: I dated, it was horrible. Fucking was much better.
mircea_popescu: in romanian you'd "ask for a girl's friendship" in the 50s
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Why aren't you pumpin Altcoin yet?
nubbins`: "At Least 50 Couples Have Gotten Engaged Thanks To Red-Hot Hook-Up App Tinder"
Vexual: i don't take keister coin
benkay: but you do take coin in the kiester!
BingoBoingo: What is even the mining stroke for KeiserCoin?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: So GHCQ should squash it in good order with their SYN shit.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the 512 second block altchains die out in about 10 days,
mircea_popescu: when people are done mining the juciest blocks and move on
mircea_popescu: a 30 second block chain should be exhausted in about... a day.
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Vexual: you might wanna close both eyes
BingoBoingo: Max difficulty within the first hour. It would actually be a useful experiment in how BTC would handle a catastrophic break of SHA-256
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benkay: except we've seen coins get diff-pinned before.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't wanna be a tech lead for any bank when sha cracks.
mircea_popescu: tbh i imagine the security people wake up screaming once a month cause of this]
benkay: we're all security people now.
BingoBoingo: Do banks even use SHA-1 yet? Is that "approved" for them?
mircea_popescu: benkay no i mean specifically, it sec consultants for banks with major customer facing interfaces
BingoBoingo: I ask because more consumers were injured in the target hack than will probably ever hold BTC
ozbot: Microsoft Warns Customers Away From RC4 and SHA-1 - Slashdot
Vexual: gates is audi for real now
BingoBoingo: I need to come up with something Slashdot worthy. Unless someone else wants to start pumping my Altcoin artile at 07:00 UTC
benkay: your 15 minutes of fame have passed, BingoBoingo.
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Plaxant: BingoBoingo I'm surprised r/baseball didn't like the link I posted
BingoBoingo: benkay: You dedicated Lispers assume one Macro is enough.
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BingoBoingo: Plaxant: I will hurt them again. Oncce pitchers and catchers report.
benkay: i'm nowhere near enough of a lisper to catch your ref, B
BingoBoingo: Shame there is no World Baseball Classic this year. Netherlands and Puerto Rico made me a lot of worth much less BTC last year.
benkay: BingoBoingo: do you use a dedicated bitbet address?
BingoBoingo: benkay: Actually I force myself to use several Bitbet addresses
BingoBoingo: I only advertise the 1lvcunts as belonging to myself but superficial shit can reveal three moar.
benkay: well on an entirely different topic
BingoBoingo: Deeper analysis can reveal 8 addresses used that go back to me. Deeper still analysis and you need drugs
Plaxant: BingoBoingo drugs should always be needed
Vexual: i hope nubbins' puts a few illustrated blockchain pages in his book, or a whole encyclopedia
BingoBoingo: Plaxant: Drugs lik everything else should need consent.
pankkake: I like to have the same address, but I bet more for fun and pride
mircea_popescu: "My @YouTube career was born in my bedroom. @Google was born in @SusanWojcicki's garage. Big dreams have humble beginnings "
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's kind of a rush.I missed most of the actual action when I made it the first time driving into the Icy north.
benkay: herbijudlestoids if you ever link an autoplaying video again i will straight murder your face
herbijudlestoids: benkay: apologies. i have all my plugins to only load on click
Vexual: hey herbi, schapeele might be getting out on the weekend, dya think abbot can fuck up her chances by then?
Vexual: war might wait til monday
herbijudlestoids: benkay: do you really let flash and whatnot just load in browser with no control?
herbijudlestoids: i got noscript, adblock, ad blocking /etc/hosts with ~15,000 hosts blocked...and i still dont let flash or java load unless i click it
benkay: congratulations, you obviously don't operate in derpy web application zone land.
herbijudlestoids: benkay: derpy web applications dont break if you enable "click to load" on plugins...
benkay: you have obviously spent much time debugging legacy javascript
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2013 @ 0.00042 = 0.8455 BTC [-] {4}
herbijudlestoids: benkay: so...youre saying that legacy javascript, breaks, if you enable "click to load" on, say, flash?
BingoBoingo: We will basically jsut change all of the labels on steelbank common lisp and offer it as an improvement on Javascript. Even give it a cute Doge pic
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benkay: i have learned the hard way to remove sources of indeterminacy from my stack
benkay: mystery browser plugins are a source of indeterminacy.
benkay: they always want to do crazy shit to the dom.
benkay: isolate isolate isolate
herbijudlestoids: yo, you realise its a native feature in chrome and firefox right
nubbins`: herbijudlestoids, all the ones you listed
herbijudlestoids: nubbins`: the extensions i listed have nothing to do with "Click to Load" which is a native feature of modern browsers...
BingoBoingo: All this alpha shit is my garage is gonna go to the moon!
benkay: so then client relations - i want to demo a thing with the UX flow a client spent an ungodly amount of money on. i'm not going to ruin my demo with my personal settings.
herbijudlestoids: what i said precisely was that even despite those extensions, i still use click to load
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benkay: this is a stupid discussion.
nubbins`: you are alone in your incredulity
benkay: people just run java web apps all the time
benkay: what phone book of actual use story memos did you miss?
BingoBoingo: Because if it isn't niggers.txt, angles.txt, or saxons.txt it itsn't worth reading?
nubbins`: some of the bash quotes, though funny, aren't fun to draw
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benkay: #49 is one of the better ones
herbijudlestoids: i gotta say, im used to hanging out with opinionated geeks, but yall have some of the weirdest forced opinions iv encountered
benkay: i want to see an illustration of vexual on the internet by accident
pankkake: don't forget to draw him upside down
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: You just aren't acclimated yet.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: You have serious potential to stay, but you need to depressurize the space suit and embrrace it.
benkay: breathe the hard vacuum of bitcoin
herbijudlestoids: i didnt come here to join an echo chamber, but i do try to keep an open mind and ask questions
benkay: bathe in the sweet sterilizing rays of non-dilutable currency
herbijudlestoids: i actually stayed because it seems like people are willing to answer those questions to a level that satisfies me
benkay: disagreement is the heart of discourse
benkay: it'd be boring if we all agreed all the time
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BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: The first rule of IRC is if it acts the way you anticipated something is wronger
benkay: unless freenode is under ddos
benkay: beyond my pay grade, mate
mircea_popescu: <herbijudlestoids> i gotta say, im used to hanging out with opinionated geeks, but yall have some of the weirdest forced opinions iv encountered << bs. nobody here has any opinions.
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BingoBoingo: Aka why the superbowl was as boring as fuck
jayk: he sprained his ankle
jayk: sherman was visible upset he wasn't able to show off
jayk: got carted off the field ...
BingoBoingo: jayk: Shut yout mouth. When he was on the field he crippled Denver, they coudn't dar to try going long.
jayk: i live in seattle we had a parade today, 750K showed up
jayk: seattle police only expected about 300 maybe 350K
jayk: sherman didn't do much during the superbowl and got injured :P
jayk: biggest event ever in the history of seattle
BingoBoingo: jayk: He did everything the first 3 and 1/3 quarters.
jayk: bigger than the worlds fair
jayk: bigger than ken griffey
jayk: bigger than any baseball game
BingoBoingo: jayk: I dunno... How many stereos did da union take during Stl's 2011 world series parades...
jayk: well i meant just for seattle
jayk: i didn't go specifically because people are probably still trying to get home..
BingoBoingo: jayk: It's ok. You can have this totally unwatchable superbowl (for denver reasons)
jayk: a lot of people turned it off 3/4's into it
jayk: i was reading about ad placement and the 3/4 time spot was supposed to be the hottest
jayk: which was where the placed the longest commercial at 2 minutes
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ads got sold for a lot and were seen little
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I don't see an alternative. I went to bed after half time. The game was so poorly matched.
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jayk: that's going to get ugly
mircea_popescu: was just curious what teh ppl report themselves. afaik it was a complete disaster and probably the turning point for the entire sport
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I appreciate that as a competitor a great game is humiliating the competition. As a spectator though. I honestly prefer what the BCS offered, an exciting game won as an accident of time.
jayk: i didnt know there was a BFL scam list
BingoBoingo: For the college championsip 10 seconds either way on the clock would have changed the win. This Winning by everything sort of game should be a forgetable regular season game.
jayk: wow i was getting ready to possibly pay them some monies :(
BingoBoingo: jayk: If you want I mining bond I can offer you BTC equivalent to 0.0125 ml of natural gas per day.
BingoBoingo: Of course, I can sell 10 of those mining bonds.
jayk: once this shell fish ban on china passes i can go back to selling them at $50/lb
jayk: have you seen those things?
jayk: i live on an island
jayk: biggest clam in the world
jayk: geoducks are 5lb clams
jayk: maybe 8lb if you get lucky
jayk: i guess i could say i "mine" them
Vexual: where do you sell them?
jayk: restaurants or dry ice over seas
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jayk: they are breeding them now, they were worthless 20 years ago
ozbot: Geoduck industry fighting China’s shellfish-import ban | Business & Technology | The Seattle Times
BingoBoingo: Fuck, when does bobsled start, or luge. Betting on hockey is boring.
Vexual: you just dhl em over on ice?
jayk: dhl moved out of usa
jayk: as a kid i could dig 200lbs in an hour
jayk: i didnt know any better and threw them into the garden as fertilizer
Vexual: wheres an agrucultural scientician when you need em huh?
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jayk: they are tasty in pesto sauce
Vexual: how do they eat them in china?
jayk: clam chowder is a lot of work to make
Vexual: how much copper nitrate can they cope with? :)
nubbins`: clam chowder isn't too bad prep-wis
nubbins`: lot of separate ingredients to buy, but it's a single-pot meal
jayk: potatoes take a long time
nubbins`: 20-30 minutes spread over 3 hours
nubbins`: that's like saying sourdough is a lot of work because it takes 8 hours to make 2 loaves
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jayk: nobody wants to wait for their delicious chowder ow...
nubbins`: i'll spend 3-4 hours cooking a meal several days per week
Vexual: lets get nigella in for the brochure, she will have a 20 minute version
nubbins`: the other day, i simmered a dozen sausages in a pot of pasta sauce for an hour and a half ;(
jayk: i have never made it though i have been thinking about it
nubbins`: the only problem is that it's a costly meal because you have to buy so many different types of seafood
jayk: i could get the clams for free
nubbins`: but you get a huge pot of it afterwards
jayk: the ground has been so cold here i bet my potatoes are still hard from last year
nubbins`: i cellared a few sacks of potatoes today
cazalla: is it even worth your time to grow potatoes?
cazalla: i grow stuff i can't pick up at the fruit shop
nubbins`: cazalla: again, it's not much effort
nubbins`: it's just spread over a long period of time
jayk: i probably have 1000lbs in the ground or more
cazalla: not so much the effort but the space they take up
jayk: they are easy to grow
nubbins`: you can grow potatoes in containers, it's what i've done
nubbins`: tall wicker baskets, even a burlap sack
nubbins`: or go fancy and spend $20 on lumber to build a potato box
cazalla: i've read you can grow them vertically but i've also read people posting that it doesn't work
jayk: i tried to grow onions but my ducks trampeled over them
nubbins`: get 100lbs of potatoes out of it
Vexual: do you pick 100 or 1000 lbs by hand?
cazalla: my tomatoes have been shit this year, constant heat wave has just ruined them
jayk: i only picked about 50lbs
nubbins`: the deck wouldn't support 1000, it's rickety
nubbins`: my tomatoes were pretty good this year
nubbins`: the broccoli all bolted when i was away for two weeks
jayk: a dear destroyed all my tomatoes
Vexual: my mangoes were stellar
jayk: next year i will use fencing
Vexual: i sent an email to batman and no fruitbats came within a mile
nubbins`: i had so many goddamn peas this year
Vexual: now thats a nice thing to eat very fresh is peas
cazalla: summer is almost over here so i'll be looking forward to winter for the snow peas
jayk: mmm peas are so good
jayk: can eat them all day
nubbins`: i tried sugar sprint peas this year
cazalla: do you need a trellis for those
ozbot: Snap pea 'Sugar Sprint' Plant Care & Growing Information | folia
nubbins`: i used bamboo rods, sorta worked
nubbins`: or even several rods per pot, teepee style
nubbins`: grew 'em in empty 2L milk containers
Vexual: excellent food delivered world wide by jet and all bitcoin should be a thing
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herbijudlestoids: i want them to spend money on servers and switching instead of conferences and meetpus
mircea_popescu: jesus! so all my life i was of the opinion i can identify diabethics, because i smell it on their breath. bunches of people thought this nutty.
mircea_popescu: talking to doctor person today i find out that a. in diabethics the body uses a lot of fat, creating a lot of ketones
mircea_popescu: (the guy asks me "well, what does it smell like ?" "apples" "but ofcourse. you're smelling acetone.")
nubbins`: incidentally, this is where the whole "huffing on your fingernails before rubbing them on your lapel" thing came from
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids don't work with cunts. you play any poker ?
Namworld: You guys should see Bitfinex right now.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids mkay. anyway, the idea is you ditch a hand when you know it can't win, not when you're comfortable with the loss.
Namworld: Someone managed to put a micro ask order for 500 USD/BTC and a bid for 10000 USD/BTC, which are now stuck there.
Namworld: Let's just say it's breaking having on the shorts/calls
Namworld: Yes. I was talking about it last month
mircea_popescu: how do all the scams keep going about like fucking zombies i'll never know./
Namworld: Saying how it was lasting a long time while I expected it to go under within a month.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: if i didnt think the company was about to grow by about 1000% i wouldnt be working here :)
Namworld: Mircea, there's a lot of people trading on Bitfinex.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids a ok then. you don't REALLY think they're cunts huh.
nubbins`: well if it's gonna do that, fuck the servers and switching ;p
Namworld: They can be seen on the Bitcoin price/market/speculation channels. Lot of people short/call on there.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: theyre cunts because i should be in charge and everyone should listen to me and do as i say but they dont
Namworld: I'm on like 20 BTC related channels, watching
cazalla: tickles my ego when i know what mircea_popescu is going to say before it's said
herbijudlestoids: let me clarify. they are not cunts, until something goes wrong in exactly the way that i predicted if we went down a particular path
mircea_popescu: i'll bet you an altcoin this thing isn't growing 1000% in three months.
Vexual: hey im at this luch, sounds like a good idea
nubbins`: just think your very own altcoin
nubbins`: you could call it herbijudlestoidscoin
mircea_popescu: cazalla you know, i'm developing a serious problem with that.
mircea_popescu: people keep knowing what i'm gonna say and say it first just to spite me
mircea_popescu: im gonna borrow Vexual's chainz just to mess with people.
cazalla: i wouldn't do that, i see at as evidence i'm actually learning something
nubbins`: don't mess with the man's jewelry
Vexual: im not here for a haircut
herbijudlestoids: i think after my company gets bought out im gonna just try and find some small/simple linux sysadmin work
Vexual: a spoonful of cement perhaps
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids why not find some small/simple sex work ?
mircea_popescu: like teaching a bunch of teenagers to enjoy walking naked about town ?
nubbins`: or giving out handies for bitcents
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: im probly far less qualified? and i love working as a linux sysadmin on small projects?
herbijudlestoids: maybe ill even get a job in a bookstore or something nice and simple like that
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: thats two seinfeld quotes, fan? i grew up watching it
Vexual: it was all that was on television here for 10 years
mircea_popescu: o nm, i did watch five minutes of it. larry david is being awkward while a girlscout selling him cookies gets her period.
mircea_popescu: it sounds way better in that summary than it actually was.
herbijudlestoids: i always grew up thinking each of the seinfeld characters has their own special quirks
herbijudlestoids: but then i watched curb your enthusiasm and realised they are all just bits of larry david
mircea_popescu: i would say larry david's contribution into the show is roughly represented by his total pay.
Vexual: im sending chapelle corby the seinfeld box
Namworld: [23:19] <mircea_popescu> like teaching a bunch of teenagers to enjoy walking naked about town ?
Namworld: I'd be all for lifting ban on lack of clothing everywhere.
jayk: wasn't mr bookman allergic to kamers shirt?
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nubbins`: you'll need to be unconscious and naked to fly within 10 years, just saying
Vexual: big bada boom in the cab nubbins'
Namworld: I don't see why. It's supposed to be done strictly to go against the rules?
mircea_popescu: Namworld i generally don't want to see random people naked.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the awkwardness and disability of the general folk the ban supports and nourishes serves as an adequate representation of their general mental and social inferiority.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.0009263 = 28.0206 BTC [-] {2}
Namworld: Oh, I'd certainly prefer to only see specific people moving around naked and others not.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00302999 = 0.303 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: what kinda lead time can i expect for a vespa with vex on the numberplate in romania?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00303 = 0.606 BTC [+]
Namworld: I would be okay if the ban simply wasn't there at all. Simply because it's silly.
Vexual: the plate neednt be actual
mircea_popescu: Namworld many silly things are required for society to function.
Namworld: Perhaps. But is that really required for society to function?
Vexual: and the odd sensible person
drstevebrule: is that chat about bitcoin markets? because BFX is fucked right now
Namworld: I was mentioning that earlier.
drstevebrule: if not, what channel do I go to? cause this is a shit show
Vexual: what of your life boat seteve?
ozbot: Deer droppings lead to artistic protest in Penticton - British Columbia - CBC News
Vexual: shit that looks like the lamb that brought the fear
nubbins`: well, doctor, this is as good a place as any to voice your displeasure
nubbins`: Vexual, it makes me feel funny
drstevebrule: I told you guys, Im relaxing in my life boat, everyone is starting to really scramble for one now
nubbins`: that's a lovely wooden stand it's on, though
Vexual: ug the stand is too two dimensional
nubbins`: deers can't stand on curved surfaces
mircea_popescu: o, bitfinex ? dude, srsly, it was identified as a scam a while back, what did you think ?
drstevebrule: every exchange is on crack these days, you can't win haha
ozbot: MPOE-PR's list of things you always suspected were scams but never dared say so.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 14 @ 0.04999554 = 0.6999 BTC [+] {3}
drstevebrule: BFX seems hacked right now, there is a 10,000 bid that is making me take out more margin then I should actually be allowed to take out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34850 @ 0.00092702 = 32.3066 BTC [+] {2}
Namworld: Oh... I wouldn't as much label it as a scam than incompetence. Although does the distinction between the two really matter? Same result.
Namworld: Yes, it's pretty funny, DrSteve
ozbot: KOSHEEN - "GONE" - YouTube
drstevebrule: that is a really nice painting of our prime minister...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00092947 = 4.5079 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: drstevebrule this isn't the first time with them, either. one of the two kids split a few months ago, he had a lot of dirt to share re his friend
drstevebrule: well I didn't do much research, maybe I should hang out here more. I hope I don't get ripped off
mircea_popescu: you probably will, as in general i've noticed people join here after being ripped off.
Vexual: yeah ive redirected you subscrip[tion to bears monthly
ozbot: Think you know everything bitcoin? Meet Mircea Popescu of Romania
drstevebrule: wow, i really am not good enough to be here. fuck - sorry guys
ozbot: Animaniacs - Nighty Night Toons - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.04999998 = 0.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1179 = 0.2358 BTC [-]
ozbot: Deepest Mandelbrot Set Zoom Animation ever - a New Record 10^275 (2.1E275 or 2^915) - YouTube
ozbot: Aeon Flux - The Complete Animated Collection Trailer - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00092681 = 10.0095 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: with info i dumped today I limited the population that coul be me to even rather naive lusers to 1
Vexual: you forgot to sa ratio
ozbot: Die Antwoord - Zef Side. - YouTube
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Finite things have answers in the world that aren't numbers though
ozbot: Seeed: Aufstehn - (official Video) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4196 @ 0.00092614 = 3.8861 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00092033 = 10.0776 BTC [-]
ozbot: Die Antwoord - I Don't Need You (Unofficial) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2323 @ 0.0030001 = 6.9692 BTC [-] {4}
ozbot: MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - THRIFT SHOP FEAT. WANZ (OFFICIAL VIDEO) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00458895 = 0.1285 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.00458894 = 0.2157 BTC [-] {2}
Namworld: Do you know the consequences of having bids at 10000 and asks at 500 bugged on the orderbook? All shorts/margins are considered in the profits massively. And you can just margin to the max based on fake profits. Apparently.
Namworld: And run your account into the red when the actual last price makes shorts/calls execute.
Namworld: Someone put a screenshot in markets channel
Namworld: Or actually they don't get executed based on last price... not sure.
Namworld: If whoever put those orders in there removes them... might cause a mass execute of all margin orders.
Namworld: Because it seems the current situation gives everyone on finex more or less infinite margin.
Bugpowder: Just shut it down for the love of god
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00086293 = 6.6877 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.11839999 = 0.592 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.11999999 = 0.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.12111111 = 1.09 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.12428571 = 0.87 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.12666666 = 0.38 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.13045453 = 1.435 BTC [+] {2}
herbijudlestoids: Bugpowder: there has certainly been some complaints on /r/BitCoin which i check once a week or so
Namworld: Bug in the orderbook. Someone managed to place a fucked order and it's stuck there, it seems.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00012949 = 0.1295 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 23 @ 0.005 = 0.115 BTC
benkay: vexual i didn't know you were a seeed fan
herbijudlestoids: Namworld: any indications why the order wasnt matched in auction correctly?
herbijudlestoids: how can there be any margin liquidations if the orderbook is broken :P
Namworld: Because something must be botched in the code and it doesn't work, obviously.
herbijudlestoids: not like they can clear any orders in the market on customers with margin calls
Namworld: Luk hiere, thangs ir bork'd op.
Namworld: Margin liquidation can happen on finex. People can withdraw LTC/BTC
benkay: derpy web app developers match orders manually? don't make me laugh, herbijudlestoids
benkay: Namworld herbijudlestoids how do we profit off of all this incompetence?
Namworld: I tested with a small amount. No orders/margins go through. Withdrawals occurs.
Namworld: I would guess wallet would have gone empty OR Bitstamp would have been crashed/pumped infinitely if people managed to exploit it.
herbijudlestoids: it doesnt make sense to me unless the exchange is flawed by design
herbijudlestoids: if liquidations are happening without going into the market then the exchange is taking on liabilities which might not be available when the market returns at the correct volumes
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 851.51234, Best ask: 853.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.48766, Last trade: 853.0, 24 hour volume: 17904.66180588, 24 hour low: 801.0, 24 hour high: 933.51848, 24 hour vwap: 868.59757
Namworld: Someone managed to stuck a 10000 USD bid and a 500 USD ask that won't go away.
kakobrekla: wait isnt bitfinex just passing orders through
Namworld: So all margins, trades, etc are derping hard
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: ? what do you mean? i thought the GHs/BTC price was always destined to go down, not a scam simply as a function of the ROI on 1GHs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9267 @ 0.00082189 = 7.6165 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: scam on the Doge/Itallian style
herbijudlestoids: in the sense of, its not a good investment to put money into versus just holding BTC?
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: As in btter answer in 40 mins
Mats_cd03: hes as clueless about what that means as you are
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: if his english wasnt inconsistently shite id wonder if BingoBoingo was an AI
ozbot: EFF Challenges New Jersey Subpoena Issued to MIT Student Bitcoin Developers | Electronic Frontier Fo
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 500 @ 0.00172845 = 0.8642 BTC [-]
herbijudlestoids: "We explained to the New Jersey Attorney General that Tidbit's code as configured was incapable of mining for Bitcoins, meaning it could not provide much of the information requested in the subpoena. Plus, New Jersey had no jurisdiction to issue a subpoena to Rubin, who lived in Massachusetts, or Tidbit, which had no connections to New Jersey at all; the server housing the code is not located in New Jersey and Tid
ozbot: Richard Sherman violently owns a troll on Twitter with Lombardi Trophy - SBNation.com
jayk: he lost his twitter account ha ha
herbijudlestoids: KRS-One: scroll up namworld has some screenshots and a small amt info
benkay: Namworld herbijudlestoids how do we profit off of all this incompetence?
BingoBoingo: benkay: Looks like Richard sherman could use a few BJ's
jayk: he's probably celebrated out
BingoBoingo: jayk: He still kept Dever from going long all game. Dunno how a cornerback could be better, He owned that shit.
KRS-One: I shorted almost 1000 LTC since amost $21..now its what, $14?
jayk: they didn't talk about him though i was surprised
kakobrekla: how is it messed up, they have nice css
KRS-One: BingoBoingo: I only touch BTC/LTC.
BingoBoingo: jayk: The didn't need because he was good.
BingoBoingo: KRS-One: If you touch LTC Goat touches you... at night... quietly...
KRS-One: Just my f'n luck..wonder if I'll wake up and LTC is $22
jayk: i should add a section to wiki with bold text face Peyten's Fumble
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 63 @ 0.4987529 = 31.4214 BTC [+] {4}
KRS-One: and yet tweens are doubling, tripling their money on cryptsy of all exchanges with "doggie" coin and I got thousands sitting here I cant touch.
jayk: it'll be in the reels though in future games and bloopers
jayk: He'll be known for this forever.
jayk: at the store today i talked about it with complete strangers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2910 @ 0.00082988 = 2.415 BTC [+]
Namworld: It's a good condensed explanation.
Namworld: They say a picture is worth a thousand word after all.
BingoBoingo: Namworld: I will still loan for your tumor and revenge as collateral.
BingoBoingo: Goat kind of ruined the market though with the scam lambo
Namworld: Tumor and revenge as collateral?
BingoBoingo: Namworld: I'll give you that roughly 300 btc if you can perfectly surgically extract a lobe of your lung. Remember. Nao ignore. DO better or be a bit hobo.
BingoBoingo: benkay: GOat's lambo. Made of pure filtered scam.
benkay: in that paid for with scam or doctored photos?
BingoBoingo: Goat is maybe 3 degrees warmer than thermos.
BingoBoingo: I am glad I dun let drunk me know cold storage addresses because 12 years a Goat would get an Oscar.
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo did you put another bottle of vodka in ur butt again
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Doesn't matter I am 30 miles from the nearest person with the right to care.
BingoBoingo: Also I take my vodka in the mouth. And I regret that traitorous Kentucky existed.
ozbot: bitcoinity.org/markets
ozbot: Argentine Banking System Archives Destroyed By Deadly Fire | Zero Hedge
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Ain't deadly with a body count
Namworld: That zerohedge article... it's gonna be good... in a sad sad way. I can feel it.
BingoBoingo: Namworld: Zeroedge is worse than Business insider, except they can know it.
benkay: wow they actually murdered people to cover up the bank malfeasance
BingoBoingo: Does Open Genera need money? Who would donate to tit?
ozbot: Order book - Bitstamp
Namworld: Well I haven't seen such an orderbook in a while.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: I have like, never wanted to enter a three month coma before like ever in my short ass life.
Namworld: What are you talking about? I don't have a clue what all you're saying is supposed to be about.
BingoBoingo: Namworld: At least start with Aristotle's physics. That makes Altcoins special kind of purty.
BingoBoingo: I doubt I could hate White people more than BTC pushes me to.
Namworld: Are you on drugs right now? Each line seems either incoherent or unrelated to the previous one, more or less.
BingoBoingo: Namworld: Each next line seems more coherent than your last. Am I beating you on some sort on glacier sense olympics?
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Quite a bit for good ones
herbijudlestoids: cos i was just looking at the coldcoins website cache, they were doing 5 for 50USD, laser engraved steel of BIP38 encrypted wallets
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Maybe their product was wrong?
benkay: business model, likely.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Find what makes a good cold wallet?
benkay: you're not going to run a fab shop on wallets.
benkay: wallets might make a nice revenue stream for a fab shop, however.
benkay: subtle distinction that these programmerrers will never get.
benkay: well you gotta operate it, keep lights on, run a business you know.
benkay: business as waterwheel; water must flow. business must come through the operation. if business is a whole bunch of metalworking work, then wallets can be a small fraction of the biz and still work. if biz throughput is just wallet engravings, well, that sustains a much smaller operation.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00082531 = 13.4113 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 1000 @ 0.0001001 = 0.1001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 1900 @ 0.00010001 = 0.19 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 220 @ 0.00082687 = 0.1819 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 5000 @ 0.000107 = 0.535 BTC [-]
benkay: who buys mg and not bbet? one throws off divs.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00082687 = 0.4961 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: benkay: Mircea likes gurls who do BBEt math
benkay: BingoBoingo you ain't makin no sense no mo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 110 @ 0.00447453 = 0.4922 BTC [-] {5}
BingoBoingo: benkay: What can Yogi handle? Oh Lord Jesus its a fire? Fuck no!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28180 @ 0.00082687 = 23.3012 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00082613 = 14.4573 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2897 @ 0.00078874 = 2.285 BTC [-] {17}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1825 @ 0.00065221 = 1.1903 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1446 @ 0.00012937 = 0.1871 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4373 @ 0.00051933 = 2.271 BTC [-] {17}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.1245 = 1.245 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12340 @ 0.00082988 = 10.2407 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: I want to use amazon to move all my non furniture shit across the country
Mats_cd03: Why is moving still so expensive? Jesus
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00083282 = 16.9479 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1015 @ 0.00080063 = 0.8126 BTC [+] {2}
Mats_cd03: Also ozbot needs a voteban command
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.19376446 = 0.5813 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.52839998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1087 @ 0.0001293 = 0.1405 BTC [-]
cazalla: i always found moving cheap
cazalla: but then i only needed to move a desktop + clothes until i bought a home
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 207 @ 0.00072513 = 0.1501 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 286 @ 0.0007 = 0.2002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 895 @ 0.00012939 = 0.1158 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.19376446 = 0.5813 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.19376446 = 0.9688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38000 @ 0.00084336 = 32.0477 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.12 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.12 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.19376446 = 0.9688 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.12 = 0.6 BTC [-]
ozbot: Athletes and journalists start to check into Sochi. - Imgur
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.19376446 = 0.9688 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.12 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.0004137 = 0.2069 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00012302 = 0.123 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 200 @ 0.00434141 = 0.8683 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00084864 = 18.9247 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [-]
grazs: lifestyle journalists who are spoiled brats, refreshing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.12 = 0.72 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.12 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.12 = 1.2 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04909987 = 0.2455 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.19376446 = 0.9688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.0008588 = 7.0851 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00085437 = 25.1185 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: Current transaction count: 4,819; stuck transaction outputs: 55,546.70 BTC (as of Feb 06 2014 12:03:21 UTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.500101 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.49717171 = 3.4802 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.06846306 = 0.89 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.05872727 = 0.646 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.000795 = 0.2385 BTC [-]
ozbot: Mt.Gox Withdrawals - Coinsight.org
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 630 @ 0.0008 = 0.504 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 203 @ 0.00084288 = 0.1711 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: MaxCoin, the new crypto currency founded by Max Keiser will launch on February 5 and it has a good chance of crossing $20 million in market cap its first month of mining.
ThickAsThieves: With over 88 altcoins listed on Coin Market Cap, it’s getting tougher to find the winners, but MaxCoin really stands out and here is why.
ThickAsThieves: MaxKeiserTV has 39K subscribers. His “personal” twitter handle has close to 91K followers and the Maxcoin “official” twitter handle has 4.2K followers. Pretty impressive for a coin that hasn’t launched yet!
ThickAsThieves: MaxCoin’s mining difficulty will be retargeted using the kimoto gravity well algorithm. Recently, the Dogecoin developers have been thinking of retargeting this way as well
ozbot: Twitter / TheRealAltcoin: @maxkeiser @KeiserReport ...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00085692 = 14.6962 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7150 @ 0.00012975 = 0.9277 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 325 @ 0.003 = 0.975 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 175 @ 0.003 = 0.525 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00012987 = 0.5195 BTC [+] {2}
truffles: i was optimistic about the coins now after seeing it unfold ive gone cynic
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00085791 = 19.2172 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12799999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.128 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00085412 = 30.2358 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4518 @ 0.00012201 = 0.5512 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1916 @ 0.00011903 = 0.2281 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.52826801 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.52827001 = 1.0565 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.52826894 = 8.9806 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.52839898 = 1.0568 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.52839899 = 2.642 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29312 @ 0.00085386 = 25.0283 BTC [-]
KRS-One: delusions of self importance
KRS-One: not those who have been humbled..
KRS-One: might even take a few times..
KRS-One: I think everyone needs to be put to that test.
KRS-One: World might even be a better place.
KRS-One: And with more bait, of course.
truffles: id start with something else, like empathy
truffles: why is the lower region on display, is that like appealing?
KRS-One: those breastestes look down right uncomfortable.
truffles: im sure there are some who enjoy that..
KRS-One: she better not travel quickly though any areas of great pressure difference or there could be a big ole mess.
truffles: face not even important enough ..
truffles: tv show had woman fall from respectable height into water, massive boobs popped heh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00085461 = 19.656 BTC [+]
KRS-One: and the one bitch on the airplane.
KRS-One: Could you imagine getting some of the fallout on you?? I'd be scared for life.
truffles: dunno if we're on the same ppl, but doubt they consider that when purchasing
truffles: u mean the person who bought or random?
KRS-One: ThickAsThieves: This was just for the lulz right?
KRS-One: Is it traded on any exchanges yet?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04909987 = 0.2455 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i'm still crossing my fingers pankakke can help or it magically appears
truffles: "Fight the fight, sing the song" hehe
ThickAsThieves: <KRS-One> ThickAsThieves: This was just for the lulz right? << as much as anything in life
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04909986 = 0.1473 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00085557 = 24.2982 BTC [+]
truffles: even honey badger name drops hmm
mircea_popescu: if doge had the sense to start all addresses with Derp
mircea_popescu: then the association of herpetologist s could have made herpcoin
truffles: TAT what happens when some random noob gets pissed at u
Apocalyptic: someone who bought X-BOND above the buyback price ?
truffles: Apocalyptic have u played BingoBoingo yet?
truffles: im unhappy with the win loss ratio
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00085406 = 29.0807 BTC [-] {4}
ThickAsThieves: is keiser promoting maxcoin legal? i mean it's like 99% ponzi no?
truffles: TERRORISTS USE BTC, SHUT IT DOWN
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy_ listen here, just because you ran a shit asset on the global scam exchange
mircea_popescu: easiest thing to do this, i'm stupid so therefore the world's dumb.
mircea_popescu: and that "degrading shit", for your information, has been here while you've been taking your goat sabbatical
mircea_popescu: "o herpderp i take a year off come back everyone forgot everything"
Apocalyptic: link ? check the forums, it's common knowledge here
PsychoticBoy_: I do not change name because I am a very very reputable member of this community :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04800001 = 0.288 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7294 @ 0.00085309 = 6.2224 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C155T] 20 @ 0.00792262 = 0.1585 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.50025452 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.128 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27756 @ 0.00085494 = 23.7297 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 67 @ 0.00339001 = 0.2271 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04909984 = 0.1964 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19454 @ 0.00085851 = 16.7015 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.54104998 = 4.3284 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.128 = 1.28 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.129 = 0.645 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.075 = 0.975 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00086017 = 15.397 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.04909986 = 0.3928 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.130001 BTC [+]
mike_c: this is the real problem with not announcing option excercies. we don't get to watch the drama unfold :)
mike_c: i bet the option whale is having a bad day.
pankkake: I thought they were at the end of the month?
pankkake: lol, it looks like the only way to change your havelock password is to do "forgot password"
mike_c: ;;calc ((500/813) - .1) - .4879146
mike_c: whale sold the puts, so mpoe could excercise for a mpex profit today
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.04967205 = 14.9016 BTC [+] {12}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14774 @ 0.00086697 = 12.8086 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 424 @ 0.00302 = 1.2805 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00480099 = 0.1008 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0030469 = 0.9141 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1498 @ 0.00304689 = 4.5642 BTC [-]
ozbot: New lawsuit against Bitcoin miner manufacturer alleges fraud, negligence | Ars Technica
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pankkake: "One of the world’s most mysterious Bitcoin-related companies" lol
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nubbins`: so it seems the inturnet is really upset about apple pulling blockchain.info from the app store, hey?
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pankkake: I'm surprised it was allowed in the first place
nubbins`: but, but, i disagree with their reason
nubbins`: pankkake, the only reason it got in there in the first place was a sneak attack
pankkake: introduce the app without X features, then introduce the features?
pankkake: by the way, they don't even have to provide a reason for refusals :)))
ThickAsThieves: Overstock and Tigerdirect etc get a few extra hundred thousand and fade away
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pankkake: IPO was getting a lot of coins without accountability
pankkake: if accepting bitcoins means a lot of publicity and sales, that's not bad :)
pankkake: are lambos a good store of value?
Duffer1: i have yet to receive one, i'll let you know if that happens
nubbins`: pankkake: the wallet features were hidden by default
nubbins`: you had to open a blockchain account
pankkake: reminds me of the flash light app that had a secret feature
nubbins`: then some sort of thing like keep the account open for 2 weeks
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pankkake: interestingly, apple does not review the code of the app
pankkake: so you can sneak things… but usually not for long
nubbins`: then open the iphone app via the same ip address that you've previously logged in with on the website
nubbins`: but they flew under the radar for years
pankkake: and in the same way, you can sneak malware. rendering the whole thing "for your protection" a lie
nubbins`: in practice, this made the app really unreliable when on the go
nubbins`: they do automatic code reviews
nubbins`: unless there's a problem suspected
diametric: automatic code reviews.. what a joke
nubbins`: it's more for catching bugs than anything
pankkake: he probably doesn't know any respectable bitcoin service ends in .io
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nubbins`: anyway, on a related note, xcode comes with some great code analysis tools
nubbins`: the IDE itself isn't the greatest, and Interface Builder is pretty derpy
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nubbins`: but the code analysis features are top-notch
nubbins`: pankkake, osx does use llvm-gcc
nubbins`: asciilifeform: could be, i never dug under the skin too much
nubbins`: afaik the whole thing is based on gnu tools tho
nubbins`: this caused problems when trying to compile the last eulora release for osx
nubbins`: even the objects show relics of this
nubbins`: btw, objective-c is a brutal language to comprehend
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BingoBoingo: Well, not entirely until about 89, but it was on its way
nubbins`: took me the better part of 2 months just to decipher method calls
nubbins`: nothing shows a more callous disregard for developers than code relics
nubbins`: sharepoint was brutal for this
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nubbins`: first they misappropropriated all these common words like "site" and "web" and "part"
nubbins`: then in one major release, they reassigned the names to different things
nubbins`: what was once called a site is now a web, etc
nubbins`: but all the old class names remained the same
nubbins`: so Web w = new Web(); creates a new Site, etc
nubbins`: it's enough to make you walk away
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nubbins`: hackintosh in '08 was my first non-casual exposure
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nubbins`: or interface builder, to a lesser extent
pankkake: there'se a language where the keywords can be either French or English
nubbins`: there's a steady push towards an apple device being a device of consumption rather than production
nubbins`: this has been pretty much perfected in iDevices
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ThickAsThieves: all these guys smashed their phones cuz some reddite said he'd give out money to the first 5 people
kakobrekla: so in a few days they will say "sry, you can has btc"
nubbins`: i'll send 100btc to everyone who smashes their dick with a hammer
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nubbins`: 200btc if you upload it to redtube
kakobrekla: and fanbois will be "oh noes gotta get new iphone 5"
nubbins`: "know what'll hurt apple? if i smash my on-contract phone that they've already been paid for, in full"
nubbins`: naw dude, they're totally going for a windows phone this time ;p
Diablo-D3: hurting apple doesnt even make sense
nubbins`: tat, the first video is already brutal
Diablo-D3: go focus on actually real shit like starving africans and chinese death camps
nubbins`: some wizard with a dart hangin out of his face
dexX7: <Duffer1> didn't he escrow? << he did
Diablo-D3: smashing a phone is basically telling the people who suffered in china to make it their lives have no meaning and they are dying in vain.
Duffer1: oh hey dex, haven't seen you in irc in a while, stayin busy man?
pankkake: they should ask themselves why they bought it in the first place, and make their auto-critique
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: I'd love to smash the chinese government
nubbins`: wait, he's going to strikeAAAAHHH
Diablo-D3: just wipe all those fucks off the face of the earth
Diablo-D3: but it'd take the entirety of the western world to get rid of them
Diablo-D3: and I dont see our rich fucks going to war with their rich fucks any time soon
ThickAsThieves: can we not turn this into the viability of world wars?
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: rich people wars are not real wars
Diablo-D3: they fight wars with cash, not dollars
Duffer1: upset that no one has stepped forward to smash their dicks?
nubbins`: Duffer1, upset at the stupidity of these retards
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Duffer1: don't even worry about what retards do
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nubbins`: "really sending a message to apple here"
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nubbins`: tat had it right, if he really wanted to stick it to apple, he would have sold his phone ;p
nubbins`: this is like if that single dad who paid us $400 for a bespoke kid's book said "fuck pink eye" and put his book in the shredder
nubbins`: we'd say "yes, fuck us" while smoking his money
ThickAsThieves: "i'm going sprint down 300 yards and try and get this rifle on target as fast as possible"
ozbot: R3 Destroys anti bitcoin iPhone with a rifle in exchange for a Nexus 5 - YouTube
ozbot: iPhone 5 phones destroyed in protest against Apple's anti-Bitcoin actions
nubbins`: side note, what's with all these fucking idiots laying their phones on concrete and striking them with metal tools?
nubbins`: srsly, the only part of these videos where i cringe is when i see a metal implement striking concrete
nubbins`: as soon as i finish submitting this post to reddit
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nubbins`: did i mention the problem i was having with my iphone the other day?
nubbins`: fuckin thing completely stopped charging, 9 days out of warranty
ThickAsThieves: "We have surveillance video from the hotels that shows people turn on the shower, direct the nozzle at the wall and then leave the room for the whole day," the official told members of the press, according to The Wall Street Journal.
ThickAsThieves: Kozak was attempting to argue that foreign journalists were biased against Russia and were intentionally working to paint the Sochi games as a disaster. But in the process, he may have just spooked everyone assigned hotel rooms to attend the games.
nubbins`: cajoled apple into fixing it for free, later realized that the bottom of the port had a bunch of impacted lint
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nubbins`: so i guess i get a free box in the mail any day now ;p
nubbins`: no, they mail you a box to return your broken phone in
nubbins`: literally an hour after i hung up, i scooped the lint out
nubbins`: MAY SMASH IT ANYWAY TO SHOW THEM A LESSON
Duffer1: so they have video footage of peoples showers?
Duffer1: seems like a terrible thing to tell the press, but what do i know
Duffer1: didn't you get your phone replaced though nub?
nubbins`: Duffer1, nah, have had this for just over a year
ozbot: Russian official says government has video surveillance of Sochi hotel room showers | The Verge
Duffer1: what'r you waiting for then, free nexus 5 go
ozbot: Russian Officials Fire Back at Olympic Critics - WSJ.com
benkay: so basically it should be trivial for anyone to accept any altcoin
benkay: but running a full satoshi client for each chain is a little, ah, shall we say wasteful.
benkay: what's the Altcoin magic value?
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nubbins`: so, anyone buying rentalstarter tomorrow?
ThickAsThieves: i think it has been between .00000300 and .00000100btc so far
benkay: ThickAsThieves: the "magic value" is a header in the protocol that identifies which network a client is a part of
Duffer1: nubbins' if i had anything left - no i wouldn't
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benkay: in this case network referring to the network of nodes broadcasting and verifying transactions
ThickAsThieves: is the same question as "do you have a dump of the genesis block?"
benkay: a client being the Satoshi implementation or bitcoinj or multibit w/e
Duffer1: i like almost everything about it but I'm sure btc itself will do significantly better
benkay: magic value is a part of a header sent between nodes. genesis block is the root of the merkle tree.
benkay: if you had the source for alt you could ack "magic" and find it pretty quickly
ThickAsThieves: and i am waiting on coingen to make an identical one so we can reverse create source for the orginal
nubbins`: i don't see rental properties outperforming btc
ThickAsThieves: yes, my comprehension of the details you describe is pretty low
ThickAsThieves: but i am willing to pay to get this solved so i can then pay to have pools made or whaver
benkay: it'll be interesting to see if clients built from the regenerated source code will be able to talk to clients in the wild
nubbins`: what are you gonna do when people start actually wasting/losing money on atc?
nubbins`: people are going to take it seriously and they're going to lose money
Duffer1: he's not wrong there TaT hehe
nubbins`: i know it's a big lel, but you should kill this before it grows legs
benkay: yeah but that's the "kids are going to hurt themselves with guns" argument
benkay: teach some firearm use, let the idiots die.
pankkake: lol, the coinget coin I took the source from even has the same port number
benkay: why would you change the port number?
mike_c: yeah, where's the hate for bernankoin? as long as he doesn't pump/dump, what's the crime?
benkay: also the n-coin game will go forever
pankkake: mike_c: there's no hate for bernankoin
pankkake: it's *impossible* to premine anyway!
nubbins`: you've decided that the guy selling apples w/ razors to creepy old men is not at fault, because he's not the one handing them out to kids?
mike_c: i guess nobody will lose money on bernankoin cuz you can always just print more to keep people from losing money
nubbins`: "lel pre-razored apples, what a riot!"
nubbins`: and we all have a chuckle and a kid slices his neck open
pankkake: well anyone printing it for more than a few hours is a fool
ThickAsThieves: in a world where there can be any number of alts, all on same codebase, no one alt is better than the other
nubbins`: but hey, fuck him, he shoulda checked!
nubbins`: alts have two purposes: to experiment with ideas and to have a lel/run a scam
nubbins`: mike_c: the lel/scam is the same thing
ThickAsThieves: but really, what makes bitcoin better than an altcoin other than its adoption level?
nubbins`: one's real and the other is for fleecing rubes, that's what
nubbins`: if you're fine with rubes being fleeced, then there's no difference, no
mike_c: there is a difference between selling real estate in florida that is secretly swampland, and openly selling swamps.
ThickAsThieves: and it's impossible to have two coins coexist and be healthy?
mike_c: right, which is why you haven't bought any ATC
nubbins`: it's impossible for a rubecoin to be healthy, yes
ThickAsThieves: is it impossible an altcoin will become the winner over bitcoin?
nubbins`: let's be clear, your experiment isn't intended to become a winner over bitcoin
nubbins`: it's intended to have a chuckle
benkay: even if there is a mining breakthrough, the compute deployed against alts couldn't save bitcoin...
nubbins`: but the funny thing about intentions...
TomServo: ThickAsThieves: You saying you don't own any and won't mine any doesn't preclude that?
nubbins`: the suckers being suckered don't
Duffer1: it's a subjective moral argument
Duffer1: based entirely on what you believe is moral or amoral
nubbins`: duffer, it boils down to this, yes
nubbins`: promoting a lelcoin as being serious is amoral
ThickAsThieves: what if the other just wants to do create the thing to see what happens
Mats_cd03: so what was the size of the mpex whale fee
nubbins`: what if i just want to stuff a cigarette with match heads to see what happens?
mike_c: nubbins`: do you think it was immoral to flip houses during the housing bubble?
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ThickAsThieves: so far its mostly been an expression for me, some luls sure, but kinda performance art
ThickAsThieves: i havent even pondered what my investment strategy might be for it
nubbins`: mike_c, there was a housing bubble? ;p
nubbins`: i think it's immoral to sell a cardboard box painted up like a house to a new family
nubbins`: bernankoin, you read the spec and have a lel
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nubbins`: dogecoin, you see people actually losing things of value
nubbins`: intentions don't matter, what people do with the thing you've made does matter
mike_c: bah. and bitcoin is to blame for assasinationmarket
benkay: is running a gambling house a moral operation, nubbins`?
nubbins`: mike_c: assassinations are purchased with or without bitcoin
nubbins`: rubes losing money on ATC doesn't happen without ATC
mike_c: that money is lost simply by rubes having it.
ThickAsThieves: you cant die from frostbite while bathing in lava either
nubbins`: nice rationalization, isn't it
nubbins`: streets serve a useful purpose
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Duffer1: this argument is why i never made Hodorcoin, in the end, someone was going to lose money on it
nubbins`: if you can justify it to yourself, there's not much i can do to convince you otherwise
nubbins`: just wanted to offer a perspective
mike_c: i lost money on mpex once. mp is a scammor.
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nubbins`: sure, and you can offer perpetual mining turds that anyone with a brain would know is a bad purchase
nubbins`: but you can't say that you're not intentionally fleecing rubes
ThickAsThieves: well if we go buy the Altcoin's mission it's purpose is to get everyone to stop mining every other altcoin
ThickAsThieves: would you count marginal success in that as a good thing?
kakobrekla: allowing for txes when 1mb limit is being hit for one but thats where it ends
nubbins`: would you count getting people off heroin and into crack as a good thing?
nubbins`: sure it is, they're trading one terrible choice for another
mike_c: if you accept the axiom that any coin besides bitcoin has no value.
ThickAsThieves: the problem is you are making assumptions that are false
Mats_cd03: Some people just lack enough empathy
nubbins`: altcoins are a great way to test out new concepts
nubbins`: but a big machine that spits out slightly tweaked alts isn't
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ThickAsThieves: again i think this is a false assumption as well, alts needing new concepts
nubbins`: nobody's saying you NEED to test new concepts
TomServo: ThickAsThieves: is it a "preformance piece" or "maybe a viable altcoin, we'll see"?
nubbins`: just that there's the potential for learning, growth, new thought processes, etc
ThickAsThieves: you are saying the NEED is required for value to exist
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denlove: I wish I had someone send bitcoin to please. 16ZdMuyrVuuupSjVZyPmBWwjHsbcweKGUk
nubbins`: you're trying to rationalize your lelcoin right now, in this conversation
ThickAsThieves: seriously, you cant definitively win one argument and now i'm a shill
nubbins`: what's with "winning" "arguments"?
TomServo: TomServo | ThickAsThieves: is it a "preformance piece" or "maybe a viable altcoin, we'll see"?
mike_c: that's not trouble if he's not trying to harvest chumps
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ThickAsThieves: there will be wealth in more coins than bitcoin, for as long as this paradigm can even exist
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pankkake: PROCESSMESSAGE: INVALID MESSAGESTART
ThickAsThieves: your arguments live in some imaginary ending where only bitcoin is left
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pankkake: it's pchMessageStart, but I'm not sure how to reverse-engineer it
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ThickAsThieves: altcoins are seeking their place, itll always be dynamic, but they will have a place
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Duffer1: lets put aside the moralizing and focus on the likely outcome of the experiment
mike_c: imagine a grid with 100 tiny squares and 1 enormous square. Add as many tiny squares as you want, the Schelling point remains.
Duffer1: paging mircea_popescu , mircea_popescu to the desk please
Duffer1: i believe that is the likely outcome as well ascii
Duffer1: getting from here to there would probably be very interesting though
pankkake: does anyone here know basic C? how do I print, say, 0x0b? I want it to be 0x0b on the screen, or similar
ThickAsThieves: no, you are trying to say pissing shouldnt happen at all
pankkake: thanks, this is also what I found :)
pankkake: I need to find something interesting to write in C
nubbins`: what he's saying is piss in the fucking toilet
mike_c: pankkake: take something slow in one of your python programs and write a C module for it
ThickAsThieves: and what of this grand plan to make a better coingen.io?
jurov: pankkake: rewrite pympex (but dunno if there's portable gpg C library)
nubbins`: PMTs = "a better" way to invest?
pankkake: I doubt the performance issues of pympex are in the Python code ;)
ThickAsThieves: so enabling the more efficient creation of Altcoins is moral, but making one is not
jurov: i had in mind portability issues
pankkake: there are many gpg python libs, which all suck in a different way
jurov: pankkake: yep, even some forks with same name
nubbins`: making a new compiler != creating exploits
pankkake: in the end, for what I wanted to do, I ended up calling gpg directly
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benkay: asciilifeform: would you elaborate on how cranking out altcoins will do *anything* to bitcoin?
mike_c: pankkake: curious what you were trying to do that was not working with the python gpg lib?
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pankkake: it's wasn't really about working, but I didn't want to add a dependency for nothing
pankkake: in the end most of the feature is calling gpgv
mike_c: i think you are vastly overestimating public knowledge of even the existence of altcoins
ThickAsThieves: I think you have limited the possible futures too much
Duffer1: Max Keiser @maxkeiser 17m
Duffer1: #maxcoin mining and buying panic is building... all system look good to go. @maxcoinproject
mike_c: i like that analogy. so TaT threw a cig butt on the ground. who cares?
pankkake: fucking fuck, now it connects, but every block is an orphan to it…
nubbins`: mike_c: yeah, who cares! we can do this forever!
mike_c: yes, we can. the world has not yet crumbled from tossed cig butts.
nubbins`: fuck everything, it's the road's fault for being there
nubbins`: you've got that part right, at least
nubbins`: when can we expect mike_ccoin?
mike_c: never, i own one ATC. hence my position :)
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benkay: but "good money drives out bad", asciilifeform. every local government can print their own fiat, demand taxes in their own shitcoin, and all of the wealth will stay in bitcoin.
nubbins`: "so what if we're helping turn cryptocurrency into a digital liberia"
nubbins`: "fuck the signal, here's some more noise"
mike_c: this is like imagining that the btctalk retardation will hurt bitcoin.
benkay: there is only noise in the universe. moments of signal are rare and unusual and vanish rapidly. thermodynamics at work.
nubbins`: benkay, that's about two steps from "what IS reality?"
mike_c: but he threw his butt in the toilet. it was announced on btctalk.
benkay: not hardly. it's more along the lines of "seeing clearly in the fog is difficult", nubbins`. not "everything is foggy so fuck it".
nubbins`: mike_c, ah, the toilet? that's okay, then
nubbins`: once you flush things down the toilet, they're gone
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ThickAsThieves: Maybe, I make Altcoin, it does pretty good, then something goes bad and people lose a bunch of money. Then I admit you guys were right. The guilt eats my soul til I realize I must now design the best coin ever. I do, and it kills bitcoin, and the world basks in a new dawn of finance. I load up IRC "sup fuckers, good thing I made Altcoin!"
benkay: just because the signal is loud and clear today is not a reason why it should remain that way.
nubbins`: "well, the tanker was leaking oil something fierce, so we towed it outside the environment"
mike_c: ok, i give up. let's debate abortion and gun control instead.
mike_c: they aren't fetuses they are human beings. murderer.
kakobrekla: no, guns kill people, not people. not a murderer
pankkake: to make a "successful" altcoin nowadays you need more than releasing it
Duffer1: when i argue against something, i take the time later to try to argue for it, i can't think of any arguments for altcoin atm (but that could very likely be user error) hehe
ThickAsThieves: asciilifeform, you are likely right, but it is already shaping up to be an interesting excercise
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nubbins`: "can we trust this ThickAsThieves fellow?" "of course you can trust me, neobee, AM, etc" "but what about the perpetual mining turd and the altcoin thing?" "no no no, those were just a lel"
nubbins`: ^ this is the other side of it
kakobrekla: someone has to be on the other side of the sell asciilifeform
jborkl: so what did I miss about GOX? just read a article that bitcoin withdraws are not working now? (not that I use them anymore)
nubbins`: you asked me if mp was running a scam by making a better coingen. i ask you if there's a mirceacoin
nubbins`: wait, the same bob who sucks dicks?
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ThickAsThieves: i do wish mircea was here, because even if i'm outright in the wrong, he'd at least be able to make that clear. i'm having real trouble with these arguments.
ThickAsThieves: First, I didn't really realize what would happen, and I really did not intend to harm. However, I do regret it.
nubbins`: ^ picture yourself saying this about ATC 6 months from now
benkay: how are you going to do that?
ThickAsThieves: if it dies it will be due to my attention span more likely
jborkl: What are you doing anywy Tat, I missed that part
nubbins`: jborkl, helping scammers fleece rubes
nubbins`: or inventing the future of crypto
ozbot: The Real Altcoin (ATC) - Never mine another altcoin again.
mike_c: btw, i disagree that an honestly run buisness that ends in failure is tarnishing to a reputation.
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mike_c: he's not pumping & dumping!
nubbins`: mike_c: you disagree that displaying a shocking lack of foresight is tarnishing to a reputation?
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benkay: what is this shocking lack of foresight?
mike_c: a shocking lack of foresight? super harsh. a lot of entrepeneurs fail
nubbins`: [16:07:54] <ThickAsThieves> First, I didn't really realize what would happen, and I really did not intend to harm. However, I do regret it.
nubbins`: maybe you could whip up a regretcoin, premine a bunch, and send them to the rubes who got fleeced
nubbins`: benkay: it wasn't a failure for TAT
benkay: that's part and parcel of the story, asciilifeform. he didn't pay for the source.
nubbins`: mike_c was the one who mentioned failute
ThickAsThieves: i regret that some people really did not understand what they were buying, despite utter transparency
nubbins`: do you regret that you really did not understand what you were selling?
benkay: nubbins`: it's a perpetual mining bond. pay btc now for a thing that becomes rapidly more useless.
ThickAsThieves: if it werent for the dramatic mining diff changes that came like 1 week after release
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12020001 BTC [-]
nubbins`: you knew you were selling overpriced turds?
mike_c: do you hate JD too? people have lost more on that then they will ever lose on atc.
nubbins`: [16:07:54] <ThickAsThieves> First, I didn't really realize what would happen
nubbins`: [16:14:38] <ThickAsThieves> i knew what i was selling
mike_c: and people don't "understand" volatility or EV
ThickAsThieves: am i a criminal for profiting off jurov when he did the opposite?
benkay: yes well this is the world in which we live, asciilifeform. people can't grep source and depend on web apps to make altcoins from them.
nubbins`: i'm not saying you're a criminal, i'm saying you're hurting other people as well as yourself
nubbins`: oh, you hurt yourself, even if you don't realize it yet
nubbins`: "i didn't put the razor in the apple, i just gave it to the kid"
mike_c: now that they are making a mistake out of security ignorance instead of financial ignorance it's better :)
nubbins`: we're going to run out of soap if this hand-washing continues
mike_c: we're already out of soap boxes.
nubbins`: luckily everyone's already standing on one
ThickAsThieves: consider also that tatvm enabled me to do every release after it
nubbins`: consider that pirate's scam enabled him to buy a bunch of blow
nubbins`: consider that tatvm has tainted everything you've done since
nubbins`: go dig up some dirt on me, i'll wait here
nubbins`: good to know if you take something away from it
TomServo: Well fascinating conversation, either way.
mike_c: roosevelt had something to say about this
nubbins`: mike_c: did he say "if your friends have to issue public warnings not to invest in things you create, you're probably a legit businessman with a future"?
TomServo: Something I think asciilifeform touched on, judging the merits of all cryptocurrencies... isn't hashrate pretty much the end-all-be-all?
mike_c: i don't think that was it
nubbins`: mike_c: i'm terrible with quotes
mike_c: i have had friends start buisnesses that i would not invest in. that didn't make them scum.
TomServo: asciilifeform: Ah yes, with that being equal though?
mike_c: why do i keep misspelling business?
TomServo: I thought it was pretty interesting to see the LTC DOGE hashrate intersect, and then re-intersect and what those implications might be.
mike_c: yeah, tat is rolling in blow from atc.
kakobrekla: TomServo the implication is, people can get fooled more than once
nubbins`: good a time for a break as any
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1282 BTC [+]
pankkake: I give up on making a source for Altcoin… I don't understand why it orphans the blocks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 252 @ 0.00307 = 0.7736 BTC [+]
pankkake: the only thing I didn't chaneg is txNew.vin[0].scriptSig and I have no idea what it is, if it matters, and how to find its value
pankkake: OK maybe I can get it in the first transaction, which seems isn't me… weird
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06999 = 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40250 @ 0.00086847 = 34.9559 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00084288 = 0.1686 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24350 @ 0.00086705 = 21.1127 BTC [-]
pankkake: lol getrawtranscation doesn't work for the firt tx it seems
pankkake: meh, anyway I don't know what to do with it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.0008429 = 0.1686 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 240 @ 0.0008429 = 0.2023 BTC [+]
Duffer1: just reopening trading or are you going for another round of financing?
the20year: another round of funding via havelock
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19950 @ 0.00086705 = 17.2976 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00302808 = 0.109 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.0008684 = 11.68 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: man fuck a gym. just keep free weights at your house and fuckin' use 'em.
nubbins`: benkay: i use the gym for the bikes in winter :)
TomServo: asciilifeform: I somehow mis-read seigniorage as sovereign, so derp on my part. But I see your point.
benkay: nubbins`: are you a cardio guy?
chipug: there's a parody keiser coin now?!
nubbins`: too treacherous outside to ride in the winter tho, even with studded tires
ozbot: Fat Sand Fat Cruiser
nubbins`: i see a bike around town sometimes with wheels like that
ozbot: Skinny Puppy Wants Compensation For Music Used in US Interrogations - Slashdot
nubbins`: ^ one of canada's greatest musical exports
nubbins`: five bucks says they used BRAP vols. 3/4
nubbins`: wow, ALL the comments so far are about the "new look" of /.
benkay: dudes does anyone know where the initial peers are stored in the litecoin codebase?
TomServo: chipug: Oh, hadn't seen that. I thought you meant Max's actual coin.
chipug: TomServo: no i think this just popped up today in response to maxcoin
chipug: max keiser's twitter page gives me a headache
chipug: ThickAsThieves: ..... you suuuure??
Duffer1: even odds it's someone from this chan
chipug: please put nipple tassles on him also!!
ThickAsThieves: [16:07] <BlueMatt> anyway, the coin is gonna rebuild with a slightly different genesis block
ThickAsThieves: [16:07] <BlueMatt> the original download can be found at coingen.io/...../761afffd_orig.zip instead of 761afffd.zip
ThickAsThieves: [16:07] <BlueMatt> well, all you have to do is figure out the genesis block change
ThickAsThieves: [16:07] <BlueMatt> but, I dont have a way to readily do that
ThickAsThieves: [16:08] <ThickAsThieves> but the person that dumped the genblock can?
ThickAsThieves: in case you still have any fight left in you pankakke ^
pankkake: well, that won't really help me, as I only tried the genesis block change and other magic values, no renaming etc. before I was sure it worked
ThickAsThieves: maybe it was something bad about the source you worked from?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.12820001 = 0.5128 BTC [+]
chipug: asciilifeform: what was that?
Namworld: It looks like Bitfinex just fixed the glitch and are back in business and everyone is happy or something.
Namworld: And that nothing was stolen =/
Namworld: Okay... I was expecting them to have long gone under.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 303 @ 0.00300357 = 0.9101 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 623 @ 0.00309335 = 1.9272 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 376 @ 0.0031 = 1.1656 BTC [+] {2}
dexX7: there were coins stolen?
Apocalyptic: Namworld, they gonna slowly recover the stolen part with the fees and delay payouts if necessary imo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00086788 = 9.9806 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00312134 = 6.2427 BTC [+] {5}
nubbins`: making dinner, recipe calls for a lightly beaten egg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 351 @ 0.00312699 = 1.0976 BTC [+]
nubbins`: so i announce "i like my women the way i like my eggs!!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00312699 = 0.1126 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.04999991 = 1.1 BTC [-] {2}
dub: poached, scrambled and scotch?
TomServo: There's a Laphroaig in my near future.
nubbins`: the trick with these "the way i like my women" jokes is to fool people into assuming the wrong thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.04070104 = 0.6105 BTC [-] {5}
nubbins`: i like my coffee the way i like my women!
nubbins`: "nope. strong, black, and slightly bitter"
ozbot: BBC News - Shares in Twitter plummet after user growth slows
dub: its coz I stopped using twitter
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 349 @ 0.00172845 = 0.6032 BTC [-]
Rick_: any one can reach mircea?
Duffer1: anything we might be able to help you with?
Rick_: i withdrawed some btc
Rick_: but i cant reach him now
Duffer1: do you know how to send a PM?
Duffer1: <---double click his name, type stuff in the new window, he'll probably get back to you when he's around
dub: you could try emailing
Rick_: i used query,but he seems not there
Rick_: I emailed him yesterday,no reply yet
dub: withdrawals are not automatic in case you were wondering, usually processed daily iirc
Rick_: he is not here for last hours?
dub: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 49 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> but anyway. got shit to do so, later.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14095 @ 0.00086853 = 12.2419 BTC [+]
Rick_: okay,thank you everyonw
KRS-One: those are the kind of girls that when you see them wake up in the morning without the hair and makeup they look like hell
pankkake: actually it seems you were right, using the source from bluematt seems to WORK!!
pankkake: some of the magic changed values I guessed were already changed, including the one I couldn't figure out
dub: Please be advised that BTC on MtGox are not fractional.
dub: we just don't have enough to cash erryone out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00086853 = 5.9929 BTC [+]
benkay: in case your curious what kind of work i do, client number one just cut over and emerged from embargo
benkay: we dragged the frontend kicking and screaming into 2014, dragged an ancient django application from 1.2 to 1.4, delivered myriad performance improvements totalling in excess of 10x across the whole stack, and implemented distributed work queues to decrease the risk of large data processing jobs
mike_c: why 1.4 instead of 1.6?
benkay: the next development iteration is going to focus on putting a 'buy' button next to each plant, redesigning the remaining pages that look like they're from 2006, taking people's money when they do click buy and turning into a plant on their doorstep, using the 56+ nurseries the site owner already has relationships with for distributed development
KRS-One: fuck plants, they are boring.
benkay: distributed fulfillment
mike_c: boring is good. no scooping poop.
Duffer1: infinite scroll would be nice
benkay: 1.4 was necessary for some particular features, i forget what precisely. chose to not go all the way to 1.6 to mitigate risk.
benkay: oh yeah, did i mention the stack automation and rearchitecture?
Duffer1: it's a great looking sight though, i love the homepage
benkay: there was enough risk in this project that 1.6 made me uncomfortable and i stopped the upgrade at the release that bought us the features we needed.
truffles: they should have a subcategory "exotic plants"
benkay: thanks! the owner did the wires and we implemented it.
benkay: anyways, we have availability for other projects.
mike_c: i upgraded to 1.6 recently without many bumps. but i think i went from 1.4, so less risk
ThickAsThieves: benkay, have you ever done anything in online education software
mike_c: bitcointalk is unusable. if only they had thousands of btc to improve the site with.
benkay: i've played with plenty.
benkay: is there something specific to the online education software domain that's not applicable to general webappery?
benkay: what are you curious about?
ozbot: Solanum muricatum | Pepino Dulce | Pear Melon | Sweet Cucumber| plant lust
benkay: phpbrekla's your man for that
dub: I heard tux might be in the market
benkay: company line on php is "we're only interested in the project if the client is prepared to make a large investment in moving away from php"
benkay: that said we can always manage a project and assemble a team for the right price.
benkay: there is a php fee tho :(
ThickAsThieves: the investment, in my eyes, would be in a team that can be counted on and is proficient
pankkake: I used to be in a php shop, but we did pass twice on a project that was simply… impossible to comprehend
ThickAsThieves: they are finally installing the new version of the software onto a live server this week
benkay: first thing we typically do is set up infrastructure, CI and low-friction deploys.
ThickAsThieves: and I had bigger plans for it, so it needs ongoing work
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11844 @ 0.00086853 = 10.2869 BTC [+]
benkay: There is a clear need for governments to be able to hold internet users accountable for their actions if they are engaged in performing or supporting illegal activities.
benkay: there is a clear need for networks that route around governments.
dub: cracknet at it again
benkay: anyways, thanks for enduring my pitch, -assets.
ozbot: April Jones: Matthew Woods jailed over explicit Facebook comments | UK news | The Guardian
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
ThickAsThieves: benkay i was considering a business path of: 1. Implement and use it with this school, work out bugs, add anything obviously needed 2. Approach several clients in other training fields (Hazardous Goods Shipping for example) and offer hosted solutions, making the software cater to more industries 3. Convert to SaaS DIY Training Lesson Builder
ThickAsThieves: it's been a while since i looked into possible competition though
benkay: sounds like a great model
benkay: eh i wouldn't worry about competition. instead, focus on landing clients, making them happy and taking their money.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0031191 = 0.3119 BTC [+] {2}
dub: wake up the philosoraptor
truffles: " we have contacted or been contacted by law enforcement agencies and provided our co-operation" but why :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 49 @ 0.0031 = 0.1519 BTC [-]
truffles: didnt know these networks would invovle law into matters with users
Duffer1: TaT it's from Jurov's link above
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10465 @ 0.00087194 = 9.1249 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 132 @ 0.00084299 = 0.1113 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00086976 = 7.6539 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 130 @ 0.00084299 = 0.1096 BTC [+]
pankkake: [2014-02-07 00:11:21] Network difficulty changed to 62.7k (449.0Gh/s)
pankkake: I guess I should still be able to find blocks solo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00301007 = 0.1084 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 289 @ 0.00300075 = 0.8672 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0030003 = 3.0003 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00311964 = 0.1248 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00086813 = 12.067 BTC [-]
dub: need to make another build box
dub: can't play with the other kids
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18150 @ 0.00086782 = 15.7509 BTC [-] {2}