assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17044 @ 0.00088057 = 15.0084 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02894975 = 0.1158 BTC [+]
agorecki: .bait
ozbot: http://31.media.tumblr.com/8907ed53f324fd43f9edf6578d73085f/tumblr_mf5to7siOC1qg205no1_1280.jpg
nubbins`: hi
Duffer1: hola
nubbins`: so uh, bitinstant
kakobrekla: instajail
dub: cockmeat sandwich tiem
dub: was just saying elsewherem been a pretty good news week
nubbins`: shremmy looks like a silk road customer too
dub: russia afraid of competition in its own crime and terrorism currency, no more buttcoin foundation..
dub: its al good news
dub: all*
Duffer1: wow so apparently there's new communication from Labcoin
nubbins`: have they adopted a meme animal?
Duffer1: no it was a threat to one of the LCSH members coordinating the complaint
nubbins`: sorry, lcsh?
Duffer1: labcoin shareholders, the body of bagholders helping to gather evidence for an italian criminal complaint
Duffer1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg4781380#msg4781380
ozbot: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
Duffer1: first communication in months is a threat lol
Duffer1: some people are just evil
dub: why not just have him killed
dub: cheaper and more rewarding
Duffer1: i'm not interested in violence
dub: no where near enough revenge killing in the bitcoin scene
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1100 @ 0.00086894 = 0.9558 BTC [+] {10}
Duffer1: besides, having policia postale go after them is free
nubbins`: yeah, get the italian authorities to arrest a guy who owns a bunch of btc
nubbins`: they're notoriously un-corrupt, should work
Duffer1: it will be interesting to see what happens for sure
dub: he'll just throw them a loli bunga bunga party
dub: and all will be forgiven
kakobrekla: alberto must be laughing his ass off shopping new btc scam site
Duffer1: they're probably busy devising their next scam
kakobrekla: labcoin was his fifth or so.
kakobrekla: that we know of
jcpham: oh labcoin turned out to be scam after all?
jcpham: how much did they net?
kakobrekla: jcpham you must be new?
jcpham: i'm 12 where am i
Duffer1: 7000btc probably more, we suspect they traded on their knowledge of update timing
dub: lol
dub: awesome
jurov: aren§t they behind doge?
Duffer1: lol
Duffer1: that wouldn't surprise me
kakobrekla: nope
kakobrekla: doge is way ahead of albertos brainz
Duffer1: kako i've heard of bitdaytrade but what else was he involved in?
dub: bitscalper
kakobrekla: bitcoin rebate
kakobrekla: somescam.io
kakobrekla: what was it again
kakobrekla: kronos
kakobrekla: and umm zipzap or smth?
kakobrekla: zip something else perhaps
Duffer1: wow
kakobrekla: and there are 2 scams of him from before bitcoin time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00088188 = 16.8439 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: one was some anzo or enzo crapware ipad copy
kakobrekla: and the other was "adwords way before its time"
Duffer1: ya zenpad or somethin like that
kakobrekla: so, it was known labcoin was a scam before it was known alberto is involved
dub: bascially he's got the kind of problems only bullets can solve
kakobrekla: even then some people just didnt want to belive.
kakobrekla: some prolly still dont, even though raped by evidence.
dub: don't worry though, they hedged with activemining
kakobrekla: hehe
Duffer1: i forget if the bitfury revelation came before the alberto link
kakobrekla: what revelation
Duffer1: the ipo funds were used to purchase bitfurys
Duffer1: like a week after IPO
Duffer1: that's what they were using to fake the hashrate
kakobrekla: dunno
kakobrekla: avalons mebbe
Duffer1: it was both actually
Duffer1: 3 avalons initially
kakobrekla: man where is garrett, i really want to hear what that shitface has to say
kakobrekla: all my trolls for nothing. :(
dub: has he gone to ground?
kakobrekla: i hope he doesnt pull a bakewell that is no fuckin fun
kakobrekla: oh m y this is good:
kakobrekla: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=420324.0
ozbot: SINOSIGMA-EUROPE.COM shipping problems ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.04908 = 0.5399 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: 6th gen hashing http://oi40.tinypic.com/2lny42w.jpg
kakobrekla: much water cool.
dub: haha
dub: thats beyond straight scamming and into troll-scam territory
kakobrekla: lol
Duffer1: why would they even bother?
kakobrekla: as i figured out earlier, bitcoin is better than lsd, lsd only makes you think you can fly
dub: should string him along some more, water is for the water cooling unit which is shipping separately
kakobrekla: hehe
Bugpowder: "Today I've received a box full of bottle of water."
Bugpowder: hahahhahaah
kakobrekla: someone fwd bitcoin419.com to that retardtalk forum srsly.
nubbins`: 798
nubbins`: aww
kakobrekla: 798?
nubbins`: used to trigger gribble
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21089 @ 0.00088222 = 18.6051 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: no, assbot
nubbins`: or 719
nubbins`: i'm all mixed up ;(
jurov: 796 :)
assbot: 123!
kakobrekla: anyway i was referring to 419 scams
Duffer1: http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jan/27/marlboro-ad-eric-lawson-dies-cigarettes-smoking
ozbot: Marlboro ad man Eric Lawson dies of chronic lung disease | Media | theguardian.com
Duffer1: ^ third marlboro cowboy to die of lung disease
nubbins`: maybe it's the horse
Duffer1: lmao
kakobrekla: its the hat.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4275 = 0.855 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.46805498 = 7.4889 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: maybe it's eating pussy and michael douglas was right allalong
Duffer1: i think more research into the lesbian population is warranted
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00415191 = 0.1619 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ow hey who crashed s.mpoe ;/
mircea_popescu: haters.
mircea_popescu: <TATonaplane> That also presumes bit bet doesn't keep records of bets and wouldnt share any << they're published on the site you know.
mircea_popescu: jurov transnistria isn't meaningfully outside of russia
mircea_popescu: <jcpham> oh labcoin turned out to be scam after all? <<< gotta love this guy, he's on top of the news like a fat woman on a large cake
Duffer1: hehe
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol where's the waterbox pic from ?
Duffer1: poor guy bought no name asic company, they sent him bottled water
mircea_popescu: lmao nm i found it
mircea_popescu: hysterical.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 71 @ 0.006 = 0.426 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00088391 = 12.2863 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: jurov http://www.evz.ro/detalii/stiri/arestat-si-torturat-in-transnistria-pentru-a-si-dona-afacerile-oamenilor-statului-l-au-pu-1074628.html there's a fine example.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i couldnt translate the article, is this one in english about the same thing? http://social.moldova.org/news/vitalie-eriomenco-sentenced-to-12-years-of-illegal-detention-in-transnistria-240915-eng.html
herbijudlestoids: about 2 weeks older
mircea_popescu: pretty much
mircea_popescu: the gist being that they arrested some unfortunate schmuck on trumped up, secret charges and won't relent until he "donates" his fortune to the state
mircea_popescu: you know, like the us does it.
herbijudlestoids: ye
Duffer1: they don't need "donations" asset seizure in the US is one of the most lucrative mechanisms law enforcement has
Duffer1: you can lose your house over minor offenses
Duffer1: ces
mircea_popescu: same principle.
herbijudlestoids: ^
Duffer1: ya they've streamlined extortion, they just go straight to theft
mircea_popescu: obviously the correct way to handle terrorists is not negotiating.
mircea_popescu: which means you know, using bitcoins and not doing plea bargains.
herbijudlestoids: easy to say, but for those with something to lose or only in it for the lulz...not everyone thinks of themselves as a soldier
mircea_popescu: obviously the permanence of evil relies on people being morally weak.
herbijudlestoids: once they know who you are, if they want you they only need to figure out the pressure points, which are largely the same for most
mircea_popescu: not particularly new a concept.
herbijudlestoids: yep
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1200 @ 0.00086911 = 1.0429 BTC [+] {4}
herbijudlestoids: but being morally weak isnt necessarily weakness of character...im just thinking of sabu, because im reading some article about him right now...feds rocked up at his door, he was taking care of neices and didnt want them in foster care
mircea_popescu: just as long as we understand who the terrorists are, and who is the legitimate power.
herbijudlestoids: we do
herbijudlestoids: i think probably people who dont just havent been exposed to any injustices, yet
herbijudlestoids: if youre well fed and beleive yourself to be mostly secure in your life then its easy to turn a blind eye to many things
Duffer1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.0 changed thread title to keep the luls going
Duffer1: do your job assbot!
Duffer1: ozbot even
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: got tethans ?
Duffer1: ha
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.049 = 0.196 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg4774049#msg4774049 davout is epic.
mircea_popescu: ftr, that is EXACTLY correct.
mircea_popescu: back when btc was 10, the qty of stupid floating about was also about 100x lower
Duffer1: ya he beat PR to the punch
dub: im such a noob
mircea_popescu: o hai.
dub: this guy runs into the building im looting
dub: he has a pistol, I an m4 and he doesnt see me
mircea_popescu: this is some game right /
dub: tried to do the nice thing and let him live but no, he kills me
kakobrekla: nope, not a game.
mircea_popescu: aww dub is nao ded ?
kakobrekla: ded cerial
assbot: Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1573141/plain/)
mircea_popescu: !b 9
dub: ded and stuck on teh coast
mircea_popescu: so you were scammed irl ?
Duffer1: dayz?
dub: yeah dayz scammed me out of like 10 hours building that char
dub: nao he dead
Duffer1: lol
Duffer1: i've been watching summit on twitch play dayz mod, so much wtf..
dub: standalone is out on steam
Duffer1: ya i'll wait till they add
Duffer1: anything
dub: it really is a revolutionary game
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4782161#msg4782161
dub: sometimes I'm too afraid to play it
mircea_popescu: cute how doggedly desperate these folks with their random scamcoin are.
Duffer1: dayz looks like it'll be fun eventually
dub: its fun now and scary
Duffer1: maybe on a thirdperson only server ya i'd agree
dub: its the human aspect thats scary
dub: you invest in your char, fear for it
mircea_popescu: do the chinese sell chars yet ?
Duffer1: lol
dub: no
mircea_popescu: anyway. permadeth is always a good idea. i have no clue why the videogame dorkage starting in the 90s eschewed it.
kakobrekla: this dayz thing, huge maps lots of players?
mircea_popescu: naw
Duffer1: huge maps, few players, game is in alpha and buggy as shit, servers are c64s
dub: yeah
Duffer1: but they still managed to sell like 800k copies at $30usd each
dub: huge map up to 40 players
lewicki: cm64's? that's a monumental achievement
dub: persistent between servers
Duffer1: is joke :P
dub: no savegames
lewicki: so was that
mircea_popescu: 24k btc! should have ipo'd.
kakobrekla: well i might give it a go
dub: Duffer1: over 1m copies in first month
Duffer1: ah ya, it's a great idea, looks like it will be fun when they add more stuff
Duffer1: i can see why it sold like it has
jborkl: .diff
mircea_popescu: .d
mircea_popescu: ozbot is dead
mircea_popescu: dub prolly looted it.
mike_c: i know we are beating this thread to death, but davout made me lol hard
mike_c: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg4774049#msg4774049
jborkl: Yeah, just read the schrem story
Duffer1: "вредительство" ?
mircea_popescu: apparently french sense of humour is even drier than english,
Duffer1: "None of this makes you any less of an insufferable boor.... FREE ROSS ULBRICHT" LMAO
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> That also presumes bit bet doesn't keep records of bets and wouldnt share any << they're published on the site you know. >> heh, those were always links to the full tx? I never noticed til now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 2 @ 0.57009175 = 1.1402 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 157 @ 0.00082566 = 0.1296 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ozbot was shrem!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.04899999 = 0.392 BTC [-] {2}
Mats_cd03: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4d3hgsw231r6630fo1_500.jpg
herbijudlestoids: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/scientists-find-ancient-plague-dna-teeth
ozbot: Scientists find ancient plague DNA in teeth
herbijudlestoids: if it goes airborne it can kill in 24h?
herbijudlestoids: never breathing again
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.435 = 1.74 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16053 @ 0.00088385 = 14.1884 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.4078675 = 2.8551 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.405 = 0.81 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 23 @ 0.02799938 = 0.644 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00088354 = 13.6949 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 27 @ 0.00404993 = 0.1093 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02889998 = 0.289 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.425 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.004345 = 0.2173 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.04899895 = 0.245 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 68 @ 0.00404992 = 0.2754 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00088362 = 10.6918 BTC [+]
KRS1: ;;seen Vexual
gribble: Vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 hours, 18 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Vexual> my axe
herbijudlestoids: hullo
Duffer1: http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/27/technology/security/bitcoin-arrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
ozbot: Bitcoin exchange CEO arrested for money laundering - Jan. 27, 2014
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44050 @ 0.00088217 = 38.8596 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00088362 = 20.8534 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.42499999 = 0.85 BTC [-] {2}
Mats_cd03: how do i mitigate credit card fraud
Mats_cd03: lets say i own a shoe store and people with domestic billing information but an overseas shipping address keep ordering products and sometimes triggering chargebacks
Duffer1: accept bitcoins only
Mats_cd03: besides that
Mats_cd03: i already knew that
Mats_cd03: .bait
ozbot: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1020li18O1rp8c9ao1_500.jpg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48600 @ 0.00088382 = 42.9537 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfi8fT9oHkQ
ozbot: giggity giggity, giggity goo - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04810001 = 0.2405 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04810001 = 0.2405 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.00286585 = 0.3038 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00088297 = 15.9376 BTC [-]
dub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Mgsdz2kDI lel
ozbot: Ripple and Bitcoin on NBC TV Show The Blacklist - YouTube
BingoBoingo: dub: I'm kind of disappointed they killed Skinny Pete so soon.
davout: ;;seen mjr_
gribble: mjr_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 hours, 53 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <mjr_> the dirty dollars
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 810 @ 0.00083033 = 0.6726 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.0285 = 0.285 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.028 = 0.196 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02700166 = 0.324 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51450 @ 0.00088416 = 45.49 BTC [+] {4}
KRS1: Hoooo weee
KRS1: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2xaqndNMz1qz7ltxo1_500.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 125 @ 0.02500096 = 3.1251 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00088595 = 21.2628 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 369 @ 0.00274046 = 1.0112 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 87 @ 0.00274004 = 0.2384 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 355 @ 0.00273002 = 0.9692 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 142 @ 0.002702 = 0.3837 BTC [-] {2}
herbijudlestoids: ssshhh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00088748 = 20.5008 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00428439 = 0.12 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42499999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04808333 = 0.2885 BTC [-] {3}
KRS1: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/e2858265501fc27105071ae6a17c86f9/tumblr_mi0su4yhhU1rbgn4zo1_500.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [-]
KRS1: anyone still think big market correction/capitulation is coming soon before the next few months drag out?
Duffer1: that can be an easy thing to know depending on what expected announcements are incoming
Duffer1: if there's expected good news is that news so good it could outway bad news, what bad news could overcome the good?
Duffer1: outweigh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.425 = 0.85 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: sooo, what's new
truffles: the cold
mircea_popescu: http://25.media.tumblr.com/a6503b6c7eaa20dab7a449c9b37be416/tumblr_mjwnxhHILc1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: there, morning birdbath.
truffles: wow
truffles: thats scary
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 950.0, Best ask: 957.788, Bid-ask spread: 7.78800, Last trade: 959.69, 24 hour volume: 13457.69665170, 24 hour low: 912.02001, 24 hour high: 997.25, 24 hour vwap: 948.83378
mircea_popescu: you're not a woman till you've showered on the lawn.
truffles: http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/beautiful-singer-posing-traditional-costume-romanian-f-young-folklore-32741888.jpg do most of the women still wear these`
mircea_popescu: most of the women never wore those. that's like sunday garb, it varies a lot by locale and in general only a rich girl could afford a really elaborate version.
truffles: i think its cool, i see this woman wearing something really long and flowing all the time
truffles: prob should cut it since it drags on floor heh
mircea_popescu: in general women sew their own stuff, starting about 12ish till they got married. if they were really hot they married by 15 or so, in which case they didn't have the time or the skill to do it. if they were poor they'd have actual labour cut into that "leisure" so equally they had no time.
truffles: married at 12 no pedo?
mircea_popescu: no reading comprehension anymore ?
truffles: :D
truffles: ppl make a fuss about that today just saying
mircea_popescu: romanian women still marry ~16 if they feel like it.
mircea_popescu: british chicks too, for that matter.
truffles: terrrible
mircea_popescu: nah. the way the body works, a woman that is going to have children should deliver her first before 18.
truffles: orly
mircea_popescu: yea.
truffles: times have changed
mircea_popescu: use it or lose it. it has nothing to do with "times", biology is biology.
truffles: i think it should be 25 or later
mircea_popescu: times'd be well advised to adapt to it, cause it ain't happening the other way around.
truffles: we r living longer though
mircea_popescu: makes no difference. the body works a certain way, and that way is based on function.
truffles: how about the male
truffles: id say 30
mircea_popescu: the male's pretty immune, biologically. you can father just fine aged 75
truffles: we're looking at it from diff pov btw, im suggesting best age for the times, ur offering optimal biological time
mircea_popescu: well yes. i'm not interested in a discussion of "time", as you're not qualified to carry it.
truffles: haha
truffles: u r?
mircea_popescu: yes.
truffles: how so
mircea_popescu: well, you speak one language, i speak a dozen. you've lived in one country, i've lived in lots. you're part of one culture, which is remarkable exactly for it's very stylisized relation to reality. i'm part of at least half a dozen different cultural spaces.
truffles: ha
mircea_popescu: in short, you're not nearly enough of a whore to discuss mating habits.
truffles: def not a whore
mircea_popescu: so there you go.
truffles: but i can have some experience on the matter even if i spoke only 1 language
mircea_popescu: so you'd think.
truffles: u may not value that opinion but it exists
mircea_popescu: you need dialectics to understand anything, or to form an opinion at all. absent the faculty of comparison, you're not forming an opinion, you're merely parroting an ideology.
truffles: its interesting u speak many langauges
truffles: french?
mircea_popescu: there are much better sources for your particular ideology, such as for instance you know, the people making it.
mircea_popescu: yes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
truffles: i guess i wont be as harsh on u with ur grammar now :D
mircea_popescu: your delusions of gramar are a constant source of amusement, by all means, insist.
truffles: i agree with ur point on comparison somewhat
mircea_popescu: truffles and a rake.
truffles: a logical person can reach near the comparative level necessary for discourse imo
truffles: i wonder about the level of fluency in those other languages
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41000002 BTC [-]
davout: "your delusions of gramar" << :3
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 510 @ 0.00289243 = 1.4751 BTC [+] {6}
truffles: i missed that lol
truffles: i also wonder if just learning a new language makes u an expert in a culture
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1200 @ 0.00008482 = 0.1018 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00289999 = 0.1305 BTC [+] {3}
chetty: no, it doesn't truffles. but its a decent starting point.
punkman: is there a pill that will make me cultured?
truffles: hehe
davout: no, but I have a pill that will make you rich, it'll be 1 BTC sir
mircea_popescu: California's World Famous Cultureburgers.
mircea_popescu: With Experience Soda free for any order of two or more!
mircea_popescu: davout you should ipo that.
davout: you already did
mircea_popescu: o wait
punkman: mircea_popescu: how do you keep all those languages working, imported cunts?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.0043998 = 0.1056 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: just being very whorish.
punkman: I've already unlearned two languages by not using them
truffles: pfff
truffles: im doubtful
mircea_popescu: people don't respect whores enough. the whore has the ability to not believe in anything. this is valuable.
davout: punkman: watch some tv, it does help to refresh
mircea_popescu: as long as your brains thinks there's a correct language to have and extras as modules to it, it keeps forgetting them
mircea_popescu: once your brains no longer has a reference language it will keep all, or at least enough functional constructs to be able to rapidly recover.
davout: true
truffles: proof of claim?
mircea_popescu: you're confused as to what a claim is truffles.
truffles: that highhorse
mircea_popescu: that high horse is a) legitimately high ; b) much higher in fact than your myopia allows you to see.
truffles: im pretty open fyi
mircea_popescu: but at any rate : if you ask some guy how did he find the steak and he says "stringy", you have no space to ask for proof of claim.
mircea_popescu: he didn't make a claim.
truffles: these arent standard things
truffles: i could just start posting things to refute u but that highhorse
mircea_popescu: a very smart judge once said, in response to the gov't claim that "this is a standard deal" that there is no such thing as a "standard" deal.
mircea_popescu: there isn't, nor are there "standard things". stop stereotyping, it's the mental process of the very stupid.
truffles: fine, i shall start refuting u, when im of mood
mircea_popescu: or when you grow up, whichever comes first.
mircea_popescu: aw fuck.
mircea_popescu: "or when you are of age, whichever comes first."
mircea_popescu: assbot pls to delete teh other line from the permanent record :D
truffles: ure of the type that feels theyre never wrong, i will try to shatter that :D
mircea_popescu: mno silly, that's your stereotype you use to internally represent your intellectual superiors.
mircea_popescu: which is why i made the myopia comment afore.
truffles: ok
truffles: touche
davout: ;;popcorn
gribble: Error: "popcorn" is not a valid command.
punkman: .bait
ozbot: http://31.media.tumblr.com/c8a7862e7662173cbb9c7186050bc371/tumblr_mx510oTnQe1qdz7nho1_400.gif
BingoBoingo: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
truffles: surprising ppl r awake
truffles: oh wait bitcoin :D
truffles: ppl = america
chetty: Its a big world with lots of time zones
punkman: ppl != america
truffles: well we'd have to do room poll
punkman: no it's a fact, no people left in murica
BingoBoingo: punkman: There are some, but it is increasingly rare.
punkman: BingoBoingo: sorry, I didn't mean to exclude you
BingoBoingo: punkman: No offense taken. I could go to any number of Walmarts and by the end of the venture feel very inclined to exclude myself from a proper category of people
chetty: and therein is the problem truffles, the viewport is too small
truffles: zing
truffles: ppl who never speak in room dont count
truffles: id wager is higher on the muricans who speak, even if there is a romanian cluster that is silent
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BingoBoingo: truffles: Just because you can't arse yourself to remember or infer the nationalities of conversation participants, doesn't make your assumptions correct.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30307 @ 0.00088744 = 26.8956 BTC [-]
truffles: room poll!
BingoBoingo: truffles: This exactly wrong approach of read less and "room poll!" is what makes you such an easy target
truffles: how do u prove either way without something of the sort
BingoBoingo: truffles: There are chan logs in the topic. A decent number of people have mentioned nationalities since the web log of this channel began
truffles: so u know them all?
BingoBoingo: Also truffles when you just spontaneously throw something out there like "room poll" people might poison your sample.
BingoBoingo: truffles: Not all, but knowing all is a step to far.
truffles: we want scientific polls in here only
davout: BingoBoingo: "poison your sample" << that sounds dirty
BingoBoingo: davout: Only in all of the ways
davout: also for some weird reason, "room poll!" sounds like "pillow fight!"
BingoBoingo: truffles: I dunno that you have the ability to do a "scientific poll"
davout: BingoBoingo: :-D
truffles: we're all part of earth guys, dont worry about it
BingoBoingo: I dunno truffles You never know which early adopter might already have traded their BTC for a Moonbase or perhaps a portion of the ISS
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2014/01/parastoo-sti.htm
asciilifeform: could somebody spare a circus monkey to work at langley?
asciilifeform: they need new talent
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.080005 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: and a new keyboard, where 'capslock' isn't glued down
BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdDRrcAOjA
ozbot: Clerks - Death Star Contractors - YouTube
truffles: tis too bad ure not into timed games Boingo
BingoBoingo: truffles: I will play chess with sane time controls, but the time controls you enjoy offer a game other than chess.
truffles: 5 min or less sure, 10 is reasonable
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/inflation-deflation-economic-regulation/
ozbot: Inflation, deflation, economic regulation. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: i'll call this writing seminal strictly for the benefit of the double entendre.
lippoper: what do you think about the Winklevii cashing out 75% of their BTC?
mircea_popescu: they never mattered, but had previously trouble coming to terms with this fact.
mircea_popescu: good for them that that particular psychological issue they had has somehow found resolution meanwhile.
lippoper: they made a killing if anything
lippoper: They still kept 25%, i bet that was maybe less than half of their net profit?
mircea_popescu: this'd depend on your definition of "a killing" and on the faith you put in the numbers advanced by well known liars.
mircea_popescu: the point here isn't that we believe what they say. the point here is that what they say is less nutty than it was afore.
jurov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp9XLqF-oQw
ozbot: Faithless - Music Matters - YouTube
lippoper: true
lippoper: if they did what they said, then they'd walk away with over 10,000% profit in USD
mircea_popescu: sure.
jurov: what happened to their fund?
lippoper: they claim they sold 75% of it
jurov: o, they sold bitcoins to the fund?
mircea_popescu: jurov you remember, the twinklevii, those people who kept buying btc back when it was 10. lots of it.
mircea_popescu: somehow none of us active at the time heard or felt this, but they did it.
jurov: yes, that's why im asking about the bigger picture
lippoper: wait for it, next thing we know, they are the fabled satoshi - creator of the btc
jurov: so they started the fund, inserted btc, pulled usd out?
lippoper: lol
mircea_popescu: lippoper fortunately satoshi isn't know, or else hed get sued for having stolen some wrestler's ideas
mircea_popescu: or w/e they are i forget. was it wrestlers ?
lippoper: bahaha
jurov: kayakers
jurov: heh
mircea_popescu: a ok.
lippoper: kayakers
lippoper: Professional kayakers
mircea_popescu: sounds like the exact people i'd have my wealth managed by, personally.
lippoper: They're just rowers
lippoper: but from one of the richest families
mircea_popescu: i'm sure about as many people made the same choice as the legions that sold them btc back when i was buying all there was on sale and never ran into them
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.04500011 = 1.125 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: when do we get the mega-fund run by circus acrobats? sumo wrestlers?
mircea_popescu: i;m kind-of dissapoint that nobody has come up with some sort of forum-"financial" product centered around a monkey
mircea_popescu: like you know, the old parrot-fortune-picking thing carnies/gypsies did in the old soviet space
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 247 @ 0.00404992 = 1.0003 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: it could ipo just fine.
jurov: dragon's tale has a monkey game
jurov: but yes, raising funds for implementing the Infinite Monkey Protocol would be worthwhile
jurov: unlike bitcon it already has a RFC spec
jurov: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2795.txt
jurov: mpex.co/?mpsic=S.RFC2795
jurov: :D
asciilifeform: S.MNKY
asciilifeform: 'always mount a scratch monkey'
asciilifeform: http://edp.org/monkey.htm
KRS1: can't believe we're about to see all time high btc market price real soon
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mircea_popescu: there, added.
mircea_popescu: and obviously facebook is a standards-noncompliant, half baked, buggy implementation of half of rfc2795.
mircea_popescu: because that's what the web 2.0 is all about.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00088544 = 13.5472 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 580 @ 0.00085941 = 0.4985 BTC [+] {7}
TomServo: .d
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00088551 = 7.3055 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: In its latest review of social developments, the European Commission has said finding a job increasingly has not pulled people out of economic hardship. It said poverty among people with jobs was a major problem.
mircea_popescu: herp. "30% of kids aren't employed. this perhaps has something to do with the fact that even if they were it wouldn't help them ?!?!?:!"
lippoper: i got a boner from making ~12k doges while it's falling in price, day trading is exciting. .bait
lippoper: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5pmpru3IB1qesi8lo1_1280.jpg
lippoper: nice kim kardashian bait
lippoper: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5rutdUcpV1r0d395o1_1280.jpg
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mircea_popescu: http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-fundamental-flaw-in-crypto-currencies-that-will-soon-make-them-all-worthless-competing-crypto-currencies/
ozbot: The Fundamental Flaw in Crypto Currencies that Will Soon Make them All Worthless – Competing Crypt
mircea_popescu: noobs discover bitcoin, imagine th eworld starts and ends with their trufflebrain, make articles to tell the world.
Jere_Jones: "trufflebrain" lol
lippoper: Mircea, wtf? lol!
lippoper: from the article:
lippoper: "The only thing holding back precious metals right now is the fact that the USA can print money, buy gold in London anonymously, sell it at a loss, print more money to cover the loss, and repeat as required to drive the price down to whatever it wants. This is only possible because Gold is vastly undervalued so it does not take many dollars to be able to engage in this kind of manipulation"
mircea_popescu: lippoper it's just funny, on the interwebs everyone has "opinions"
kakobrekla: thats just your opinion.
twizt: true dat
lippoper: lulz
mircea_popescu: mhm.
kakobrekla: >Edit: The Avalon chips that were purchased using FIMB funds are now sitting in a box, because they arrived so late it was not worth it to assemble them. I did not have the option to refund. Regardless, FIMB holders will be reimbursed.
kakobrekla: lolk, do want to see that.
jurov: they will get chips mailed :D
kakobrekla: selling asic gear best biz ever. take monies, ship when you can, if you cant, use water bottles.
kakobrekla: >I have made some strategic relationships over the weekend and I will be able to make things right with all involved. Not another day will pass with any of my bitcoin affairs being neglected, you can be sure of that.
kakobrekla: lmao, a whole weekend worth of relationship.
kakobrekla: >I too agree that in order for Cognitive to be wildly successful like it once was more people need to come on board on the management front, preferably shareholders, because we all have a vested interest in the company succeeding as opposed to contracted workers.
kakobrekla: "i cant do shit really, just wanna be the ceo, is dat ok?"
mircea_popescu: lol
jurov: ain't no fury like affair scorned
mircea_popescu: is this the 17yo who figures he's a player on the strength of also having a keyboard
mircea_popescu: just like everyone else ?
kakobrekla: reassured with > Second, we need to find members willing to help this recovery process. People for PR, for research (which includes new hardware, new tech, and pricing on existing tech).
kakobrekla: -As always, I love to hear constructive input of all sorts. It is my goal to make Cognitive the highly desirable asset it once was.
kakobrekla: hihi
kakobrekla: ah thank you garr, you didnt let me down
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mircea_popescu: the only way cognitive was a "desirable" asset was when the herpitude of the multitude was still fresh.
mircea_popescu: there's no recanning that can of worms.
kakobrekla: we shall see
mike_c: sure there is. rename it to cognitive V2.0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.08 = 0.72 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: mike_c the only way cognitive can become the whatever, is if it moves to dogecoins and it pretends that's the "world"
mike_c: that would also work.
mircea_popescu: which is actually the service all these failed attempts provide bitcoin : they shed all the idiots off us. thanks god.
mircea_popescu: by the time a bitcoin is over 10k it'll be almost breathable in the "community"
asciilifeform: nah, we'll see all the same idiot scams, with the decimal point moved a few places.
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: that'd be missing a fundamental ingredient in the psychology of the scammer.
mircea_popescu: if he were modest, like your model describes, he'd be an employee.
pankkake: altcoins with low value per unit still seem to have a power of attraction
mircea_popescu: scammers are dreamers.
mircea_popescu: not all dreamers are scammers (tho in general, if poorly managed or self managed, they do tend to realise that potential)
kakobrekla: http://images0.zurnal24.si/slika-_original-1390922536-1002935.jpg
mircea_popescu: however, all scammers are dreamers.
ThickAsThieves: Us is evaluating making a "bit license"
ThickAsThieves: US*
ThickAsThieves: http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs
ThickAsThieves: live feed
ozbot: Department of Financial Services
KRS1: i'm watching.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: make a summary when you get bored.
kakobrekla: what is vinkleloss brotherhood doing there
ThickAsThieves: winkelvii in attendance
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2014/01/nsa-smartphones-analysis.pdf
kakobrekla: first.
ThickAsThieves: they are getting worn in
ThickAsThieves: lol
asciilifeform: all the 'censor blobs' are transparent.
ThickAsThieves: sworn*
asciilifeform: highlight, copy, paste.
kakobrekla: didnt they sell all their btc
kakobrekla: they should be on LTC panel
ThickAsThieves: hehe
mircea_popescu: this is how they could afford the entrance fee :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anything good ?
asciilifeform: nope. the usual crap
ThickAsThieves: Second Market now commenting
asciilifeform: author's name, and a little snippet of code
ThickAsThieves: so far it's a NIT pitch
ThickAsThieves: BIT*
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mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves srsly, a blow by blow of some irrelevant proceeding in some 3rd world pesthole is a bit much.
mircea_popescu: just a summary at the end, perhaps one of the two "we decided we'r too stupid to get mixed up usefully" "we're unaware we're too stupid and will mix ourselves into it"
ThickAsThieves: beggars, choosers oh well
mircea_popescu: hey, my 2 bitcents!
mircea_popescu: one day they'll be a fortune.
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Namecheap/status/428158030015107072 << cannonical exercise in "but i'm too stupid to know just how stupid i am!"
ozbot: Twitter / Namecheap: @Mircea_Popescu LOL, they're ...
kakobrekla: whats the issue anyway
ThickAsThieves: too much CSS
kakobrekla: dat niga just said slovenia in the somalia tone
kakobrekla: fuck you.
ThickAsThieves: lol
Apocalyptic: heh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00289998 = 0.261 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: it's gonna take the full two hours just for opening statements...
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ppl bein raceist.
kakobrekla: yea!
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: rofl :P
Azelphur: I admit I laughed a little at namecheaps new edsign
Azelphur: design*
punkman: so I went to buy some allegedly local truffles, dude tried to pass me chinese bootleg truffles
mircea_popescu: no you don't understand. it's good and i don't have "actionable" whatever. it's just like yahoo which is doing great!
punkman: so disappointed
mircea_popescu: fuckwits on a stick.
mircea_popescu: learn something from me, ye future owners of this world, if you learn anything at all :
mircea_popescu: never, ever, under any circumstances allow random "specialist" fuckwits to speak for your venture.
Apocalyptic: sounds like a good advice
mircea_popescu: in any venue, under any circumstances, ever. if you can't control the communication shut it off.
deadweasel: ^
deadweasel: even accountants!
mircea_popescu: nobody may speak for the thing other than the owner, or the manager.
ThickAsThieves: amen
ThickAsThieves: well
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> nobody may speak for the thing other than the owner, or the manager. // or the pr-girl ?
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ThickAsThieves: i think not always good for manager/owner to be talking
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic if you control her.
Apocalyptic: indeed
punkman: mircea_popescu: contrast with companies having mandatory "social" time during work hours
deadweasel: excellent post, btw, mp.
ThickAsThieves: but your message must maintain it's integrity
ThickAsThieves: somehow
punkman: (for all employees)
ThickAsThieves: its
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's great. let the world adapt it's sensitive ears to the roar of commercial and industrial reality.
mircea_popescu: don't do it the other way lest you perish like the us perished.
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mircea_popescu: o i mean, the us is doing great, just like yahoo, what do i know.
deadweasel: perish*ing*, no? if we are speaking of the apple in the bag and the present moment, we have no perished.
deadweasel: not*
mircea_popescu: yeah. and if we don't ?
deadweasel: but we are rotting from the inside out, indeed.
deadweasel: blight is starting to appear to the average shmo. he is starting to get angry here.
mircea_popescu: you know the thing with present moments... they're but moments, fleetingly present. the car going too fast is still, for a brief moment, on the road.
deadweasel: if he looks any deeper (i realize thsi is a long shot), he may see the rotten core and start the long task of expelling his american demons.
deadweasel: i mean, it's not IMpossible.
mircea_popescu: deadweasel if you wish an optimist angle on it, you could say "well great, finally a chance to become a nation"
deadweasel: pretty much
mircea_popescu: like you know, suppose you lose your job, and that means you'll lose the house
mircea_popescu: which you know... you kinda dread telling to the incredibly hot knockout that somehow accepted to marry you
mircea_popescu: you don't even know how.
mircea_popescu: and she goes... "well great, we'll be abjectly poor and finally have a chance to be a family"
deadweasel: yup, that's classic conditioning though, one of the demons that needs exercising. marriage promotion.
mircea_popescu: yes yes. meanwhile it's convenient symbology
kakobrekla: lol, "so what do you think about regulation of btc?", "needs no change, works as it should, you just busted shrem ya know."
deadweasel: i still sometimes believe fi I get a wife and pop a couple kids out, and manage to keep them fed that I've done my 'part'. it's a farce of course.
deadweasel: but ti's there in the brain.
mircea_popescu: your part of what ? cake ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla that case will be interesting, too, if the kid somehow finds the resources to not sign a plea bargain.
mircea_popescu: it can end up costing the president half his approval rating pretty much.
KRS1: http://tinyurl.com/9cmqf2r
mircea_popescu: (yea, that's like three points, what can i say)
deadweasel: exactly, more conditioning. I'm saying I'm aware of my own conditioning, to a degree, thank god. but my 'part' would be my perceived 'value' to my 'family' 'nation' etc. We have all sorts of beliefs warping our minds.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
deadweasel: to even name them all would be moot, it's just sickness.
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ThickAsThieves: why isnt there a dominant independent AML provider?
mircea_popescu: that's a good q, actually.
mircea_popescu: and why is that provider not a govt agency paid for by the govt out of taxes, as it should be ?
mircea_popescu: o wait, an answer appears. because this way the costs of governance could be imposed upon business directly, bypassing the tax controls of congress.
ThickAsThieves: could not PayPal or Facebook do this?
mircea_popescu: the cleverness of the us politicos is so very refined it's just about on par with the cleverness of the entire check and card system.
nubbins`: deadweasel, popping out kids is essentially pushing a reset switch. if you haven't yet done what you feel you need to do with your life, it's too soon :D
mircea_popescu: not internet worthy, but hey.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves how would facebook do it ?!
ThickAsThieves: how would anyone?
nubbins`: facebook knows more about me than my bank does
nubbins`: just sayin
mircea_popescu: nubbins` only if you don't lie.
nubbins`: to fb or the bank?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well you need a number of that rare beast, the risk assesment officer.
nubbins`: i'm pleading canada's equivalent of the fifth amendment on this one
mircea_popescu: there's about 1% of the needed troop of those available, and that was pre-aml.
mircea_popescu: by now there's no hope.
nubbins`: while simultaneously wondering if canada even has a similar thing
kakobrekla: shutup vinkle, next.
ThickAsThieves: the US does however find the time to allow citizens to pay them to do a background check so they can fly without taking their shoes off
nubbins`: hahaha, this ^
mircea_popescu: yes, because on that score their determinations are unfalsyfiable.
nubbins`: "it's for security, unless you have $50"
mircea_popescu: if x schmuck deals dope can be established factually.
mircea_popescu: if y schmuck is a "threat to security" could not.
ThickAsThieves: because anyone with a bad background would apply
mircea_popescu: even should y blow up a plane, condolezza rice v2.0 will happily swear before congress "nobody could hve foreseen"
ThickAsThieves: another funny abomination of flying is when they announce the different boarding groups
ThickAsThieves: Members of the Platinum, Gold, Ruby, and Mega Preferred may now board!
nubbins`: those with small children or the infirm!
nubbins`: jeez, fake a limp and carry a cane and you'll get on first.
ThickAsThieves: they literally announced about 10 different classes of people
ThickAsThieves: just to board...
nubbins`: bring a friend who fakes tourette's and you'll get on first
nubbins`: etc
ThickAsThieves: ha he's saying auth with Facebook is an answer!
nubbins`: there was a story a while ago about a guy using facebook for his identification to get on a plane
ThickAsThieves: 'compliance at scale'
deadweasel: nubbins`: it's always too soon for me to pop out kids, until it isn't. fortunately I've found my calling and I'm wrecking shop on it, currently.
nubbins`: i'm honestly too selfish for it
ThickAsThieves: there shoulda been a bitbet whether someone says "HSBC" during these sessions
mircea_popescu: indeed.
mircea_popescu: give winklebois a chance to make their 75% back
mircea_popescu: til "Kyriarchy". i like this word. i think i shall use it.
kakobrekla: all these fuckin methapores
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kakobrekla: cant just just say it normally
kakobrekla: just = they
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla how ?
kakobrekla: what how
deadweasel: what is the normal word for kyriachry?
kakobrekla: im commenting the live stream
kakobrekla: OMG
kakobrekla: dont bring 9.11 into this shit now
mircea_popescu: i had no idea there was one.
kakobrekla: DEAD BABIES
kakobrekla: BITCOIN
Apocalyptic: 9.11 again
deadweasel: kakobrekla:, link?
ThickAsThieves: sigh
Apocalyptic: http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs
ozbot: Department of Financial Services
deadweasel: thx Apocalyptic
kakobrekla: http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs
ozbot: Department of Financial Services
mircea_popescu: lol i like how into it kako gets
ThickAsThieves: ha now he's talking about flight pre check!
Apocalyptic: kako's on fire
Apocalyptic: who's the guy speaking atm btw ?
ThickAsThieves: there's a chat in this
ThickAsThieves: ?
mircea_popescu: wat we should do for the future is have bets on which panelist will show himself be dumbest.
punkman: mircea_popescu: that's an awful word
ThickAsThieves: how do you score if your brother does all the talking?
mircea_popescu: punkman "that" ?
punkman: Kyriarchy
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves for the purpose of this bet all people are male and all twins etc are one person.
mircea_popescu: punkman why exactly ? kyriarchy, the natural, normal, good and healthy mode of society, which a bunch of failures are claiming to be "critiquing" and "oposing" because it';s cheaper than fixing the steaming pile of shit they personally are
mircea_popescu: seems like a grand word to me.
jurov: then the dumbmness adds or multiplies?
deadweasel: oh wow, this is good, thanks kakobrekla
jurov: for twins, i mean
deadweasel: good - entertaining at least
mircea_popescu: jurov shit you got me.
punkman: mircea_popescu: it offends my aesthetics in some way, like when americans try to make up greek sounding words
mircea_popescu: it is kinda broken in greek
punkman: it's a homophone of κυρίαρχοι, which means sovereign/overlord
mircea_popescu: which explains why nobody used it up until some illiterate woman decided smashing random "respectable" and "priviledged" bits together will make her drivel more... respectable and priviledged
jurov: The word itself is a neologism coined by Elisabeth Schüssler Fiorenza to describe interconnected, interacting, and self-extending systems of domination and submission, in which a single individual might be oppressed in some relationships and privileged in others.
jurov: sez wikipedia
mircea_popescu: the fact that her drivel is nominally about how bad privilege and the respect it engenders is only adds to the humor.
mircea_popescu: this is roughly matching the luce irigaray levels of idiocy, so. i'm happy.
nubbins`: reminds me of arduino
nubbins`: apparently all the knock-offs, netduino, miniduino, etc sound HORRIBLE in italian
mircea_popescu: they do yea
punkman: they don't sound good in English either
punkman: can't even come up with a fucking name
nubbins`: well once you start making your portmanteaus cross the language barrier, all hope is lost
mircea_popescu: too much shit to name.
nubbins`: the solution is to have fewer things
nubbins`: newspeak had it figured out
mircea_popescu: consider all the people that apparently are in some capacity part of the usg, and somehow (at least in their own mind) decision factors in various capacities.
punkman: random numbers and letters is the solution, obviously
nubbins`: yeah
mircea_popescu: aren't you shocked they manage to allocate names for all these ?
nubbins`: just reference each item by a GUID
mircea_popescu: srsly.
mircea_popescu: "bureaucrat345987643985 ty for your leadership. nao speaking bureaucrat345987643456"
nubbins`: completes the analogy that everyone is just a number
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, essentially a birth certificate is a rudimentary DNS system in this regard
punkman: maybe our kids' names will be valid BTC addresses
mircea_popescu: sort-of
nubbins`: who can remember bureaucrat345987643985? much easier to type john smith
nubbins`: altho far too many name collisions for my liking
mircea_popescu: nubbins` why even bother, mt_rand that shit
nubbins`: haha
mircea_popescu: just address them randomly.
kakobrekla: DR EVIL
kakobrekla: 1 ZILLION DOLLARS
nubbins`: consider that i don't have what i'd consider a common name, but a google search turns up at least half a dozen people with it
mircea_popescu: actually, speaking of propaganda of th edeed : making a point of addressing all bureaucrats as a random name picked from the pool of bureaucrats.
nubbins`: hahahahahahaha
mircea_popescu: they wish to give their humanity away, fine, take it from them then.
nubbins`: actually amazing
nubbins`: "director of fincen dick cheney"
nubbins`: although TBF dicky should just be referred to as "he who cannot be named"
mircea_popescu: who'd know the difference ?
mircea_popescu: prolly not even the wife.
nubbins`: he's essentially a hybrid of the penguin and voldemort
nubbins`: certainly not the man he shot in the face with a gun
mircea_popescu: actually, with obamacare maybe they can get facial reconstructive surgery on the dole.
mircea_popescu: make them all look alike too.
nubbins`: due to a mix-up, they're all given snowden's face
nubbins`: ah, the lels
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha
nubbins`: "turns out i still can't move home"
pankkake: "I suggest we do an auto ban for 3 months for people with 50 ignores or more."
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ThickAsThieves: decentralized bans!
pankkake: colored bans
ThickAsThieves: lol
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: "i suggest we just ban btc off btctalk and anyone who is sane. then we can finally be alt-happy and alt-successful"
ThickAsThieves: which is actually what the forum is getting really good at
mircea_popescu: so mazel tov.
pankkake: interestingly the top ignores have both very sane people and very retarded people
mircea_popescu: i think this is a known property of free systems
nubbins`: hm
nubbins`: auto-ban for 50 ignores
nubbins`: that's just a backhanded way of getting mpoe-pr banned
ThickAsThieves: winkelvii says the core developers will save us from the hoarders if needed
nubbins`: how will they do that?
pankkake: that leaves the forum for the mediocre
nubbins`: also, s/hoarders/savers
nubbins`: funny, that
ThickAsThieves: yknow mpoe-pr may be the last finger hanging onto the cliff for the forum
nubbins`: introduce a system where saving money makes sense, and it gets villified
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's funny tho, they don't have the balls to say so, lest she calls their mommy fat.
ThickAsThieves: i know i have no fight left in me for that place
pankkake: crazy world where saving to plan for the future is bad
pankkake: my generation saves nothing… not that they can
mircea_popescu: and yes. winklevii are lieing to the usg, on the grounds of scammy promises people who make a habit out of lieing about their dev status made.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly how bitcoin rapes fiat, incidentally.
nubbins`: pankkake, i call bullshit on the "not that they can"
pankkake: well, it depends. some have the income to save
pankkake: but really the older generations had lower cost of living and less taxes; it's harder
nubbins`: they were also more prudent with their money, fwiw
mircea_popescu: and with their vote.
nubbins`: well, i mean. speaking in generalities here
mircea_popescu: not like i forced them to vote socialist.
mircea_popescu: let them vote the guy who says "taxes go away, the french state defaults on all its obligations. that's it"
pankkake: well there is certainly a (wrong) belief of the young that they'll always have an income and a place to get stuff
mircea_popescu: then they'll have plenty of money to save.
pankkake: (and by stuff I mean food - at least)
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4795901#msg4795901
ozbot: Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing
gecko_x2: hey mp, i read on hackernews about your kind donation to the BSD project.. just wanted to say cheers, good going :D
nubbins`: well ya know. you default on your obligations and the world still turns
nubbins`: i ask with all seriousness, why would anyone care?
mircea_popescu: gecko_x2 ty.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` moreover, if they get rid of the tax burden that's just frittering away people's resources, france may actually come back from the dead.
Apocalyptic: sounds like Fred Wilson knows his shit
pankkake: well it's like training with weights. the french manage to do stuff despite the burden, what would happen without it?
mircea_popescu: that's an optimisitc, but perhaps correct view.
nubbins`: "...because totally people send you fake passports with your motherfucking face on them as a prank all the time"
nubbins`: this harkens back to our earlier discussion about mail-order drugs and plausible deniability
mircea_popescu: i guess so.
nubbins`: (nobody would mail-order drugs with a picture of their face on the bag)
nubbins`: TBF you'd think nobody would mail-order a dozen fake IDs either
nubbins`: but you'd be wrong if you thought that, apparently
mircea_popescu: well nobody over the age of 15, anyway
nubbins`: "know what'd make this race to the bottom more fun? grease"
nubbins`: aw, heh. i tell pascale about this sweet new coin, she gets all weird and disappears upstairs
nubbins`: she comes downstairs, "i tried to buy that fucking thing but i can't find it on the website"
mircea_popescu: lolk
nubbins`: <- "masters club", can view pre-order items ;(
nubbins`: i just gave her my pw and pretended to give myself amnesia ;(
mircea_popescu: can't just push assets ?
pankkake: what about drone-order drugs?
nubbins`: it's my birthday on thursday, i think she was going for the element of surprise
nubbins`: pankkake, this will srsly be a big thing
ThickAsThieves: he's wondering if anyone is trying to open a bitcoin bank
nubbins`: at least until the cops in any given jurisdiction get up to speed on it
nubbins`: "A kitchen sink, a wet noodle, some nesting birds, a dead tapeworm, that's your NFL picks. " haha
pankkake: I hope so. any decentralized shipping would annoy the hell out of the power that be
nubbins`: ^ 10/10, would publish
pankkake: for drugs or anything else
nubbins`: pankkake, some canadian cities already have bicycle delivery
mircea_popescu: nubbins` time to do the asshole routine ::D
nubbins`: via referral only
mircea_popescu: o, what, 10 derpcoins ? cool honey, here, 10 btc.
nubbins`: HEH
pankkake: via referral?
punkman: pankkake, Nefario wanted to do decentralized shipping
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: joke's on me -- p owns all the btc
mircea_popescu: give her some of her own. asshole level +2
nubbins`: pankkake: you have to be referred by a trusted customer to get bicycle delivery
mircea_popescu: what, like a wot thing ?!
mircea_popescu: IMPOSSIBRU
pankkake: I see. why not
nubbins`: exactly like that
nubbins`: drug dealing is the original WoT
mircea_popescu: why would anyone use it! it's bad! no css!
pankkake: I definitively like invite only systems
mircea_popescu: nah, banking is the original wot.
pankkake: it works wonders with piracy websites :p
nubbins`: banking before drug sales?
mircea_popescu: definitely.
mircea_popescu: drugs only exist as a post-victorian construct, much like "children" in the sense of little angels that don't enjoy the c0k
ThickAsThieves: "This morning, Charlie Shrem, Vice Chairman, submitted his resignation to the Board of Directors of the Bitcoin Foundation, effective immediately."
mircea_popescu: otherwise people did stuff
nubbins`: eh, jesus was likely blazed on hashish when kicking the money-lenders out of the temple
dub: boo
mircea_popescu: nubbins` possibly not, as he was poor
mircea_popescu: the money-lenders however...
nubbins`: alms, dude
mircea_popescu: notyet.
nubbins`: jesus didn't pay for shit
ThickAsThieves: "Bitcoin is freedom. It's very American."
nubbins`: he had +10 ratings across the board
turbo_ac100: lol
nubbins`: except for a few -10s from scammers
nubbins`: notably the romans
mircea_popescu: jesus paid for shit much like black slaves wore chains. it's only the latter day dorks going "this guy used to have it rough give us hashmoney"
dub: "This morning the bitcoin foundation was dissolved as the joke became apparent to its last remaining shills" <- was waiting for this one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00088824 = 18.8307 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: it has remaining shills ?!
dub: ok shill
Apocalyptic: dem shills
nubbins`: i'd like to do a run of shirts mocking the foundation but there's almost no point
mircea_popescu: wait, i said something nice re teh scamdation sometime ?
nubbins`: after a certain point it's just crass to mock
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah, someone'd have to care before they/d buy one.
mircea_popescu: anyway, someone should ask the various twerps "considering" bitcoin regulatory nonsense whether they've ever been on -assets and if not what their excuse is.
ThickAsThieves: well why arent you there?
kakobrekla: mp the answer is "lol omg gtfo."
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves because i actually think what they do is a waste of time.
libbelol: btw, does anyone here know who the guy on the left was? Didnt get his name
kakobrekla: ross ulbricht
ThickAsThieves: mp takes the stand "Bitcoin doesn't give a fuck what you think. [drops mic]"
libbelol: and the brit ?
Apocalyptic: Barry Silbert i think
mircea_popescu: i could see it, yes.
kakobrekla: wasnt it james mccarthy?
mircea_popescu: seems a lot of hassle to fly over just for that
mircea_popescu: (not that i'd fly to the us without a handwritten note from the president saying that any usg personnel coming within five feet on me is to be shot on the spot)
kakobrekla: you would get busted on the border and sent to jail anyway
mircea_popescu: heh.
Apocalyptic: haha mp
Apocalyptic: i totally see obama agreeing to that
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic well, enforced immunity.
mircea_popescu: gotta respect foreign diplomats somehow.
pankkake: so Bitcoin Ambassador is much better than Bitcoin Jesus
mircea_popescu: kahn didn't have the sense to enforce his immunity, but then again he was in fiat, and fiat is dumb.
kakobrekla: the only thing taht comes to mind
kakobrekla: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwC_IaY3BmY
kakobrekla: yeah yeah, but its a classic!
ThickAsThieves: so start the Republik de la Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: ;;google "republic of bitcoin"
gribble: Buy and Sell Bitcoins in Singapore. Trusted and ... - Coin Republic: <http://coinrepublic.com/buy-sell-bitcoins-singapore/>; Buy and sell bitcoins in Czech Republic, with cash and online: <https://localbitcoins.com/country/CZ>; Bitcoin in Asia - Bitcoinvention - Bitcoinvention Asia: <http://www.bitcoinvention.com/bitcoin-in-asia/>
mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if it's not my coinage tbh
ThickAsThieves: High Ambassador Nubbins
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4790260#msg4790260
nubbins`: HEH
ozbot: Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.04899998 = 0.196 BTC [+]
nubbins`: nah i speak my mind too openly to be an ambassador
nubbins`: although maybe that's what the world needs
mircea_popescu: i was gonna say, not necessarily a disqualifying point
ThickAsThieves: as long as your opinion is that of the Republik's
nubbins`: speaking your mind is the grease on the rails of the runaway train to the bottom
nubbins`: can't start over til you hit rock bottom, doesn't mean people are eager to get there
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.04933997 = 0.4934 BTC [+] {4}
ThickAsThieves: get dat COG
mircea_popescu: people fear speaking your mind way too much.
mircea_popescu: what's the big risk, that one day you may live to hear you're an asshole ?
ThickAsThieves: most days
mircea_popescu: won't get too far in life with no asshole...
twizt: damn i hate having such a large emini spoos position on
mircea_popescu: so narrow it
twizt: im only gettin 20% of the upside so fuck it
twizt: still nervous as shit
mooninite: PETA is about to be mining soon. cointerra has begun shipping
mircea_popescu: twizt listen to your motherfucking pit boss for once in your motherfucking degenerate life and NARROW IT
twizt: lol pitboss
mircea_popescu: lol
twizt: dont flatter urself
ThickAsThieves: friedcat changed the name on his email account from some random name to "ASICMINIG"
mircea_popescu: i was jus' tryin to channel. did it work ?
ThickAsThieves: ASIC, my nig!
twizt: god this market just wants to rally
ThickAsThieves: what is "large emini spoos position on"?
twizt: E-MINI S&P 500
ThickAsThieves: word
mircea_popescu: he's exposed on the index, which is always a bad idea if you feel you're overextended.
twizt: i just wanna make 2k today
twizt: but i gotta make 10k to make 2k
ThickAsThieves: i entered TSLA on the recent dip
mircea_popescu: dude what the hell, all the bad habits. forget the round goals ffs.
twizt: i hate this industry so much, but it pay sthe bills
twizt: just need it to crap out
twizt: i got stops on
mircea_popescu: asicminig is pretty cute come to think about it
twizt: i dunno how to trade stocks ThickAsThieves
twizt: too convoluted
ThickAsThieves: i dont do it often
twizt: TSLA prolly not a bad buy imo
ThickAsThieves: mostly I get to know the companies over a long time
twizt: i would short time warner cable
ThickAsThieves: then when things seem to be too good for too long I sell em
twizt: if i had the money to short that fucker
twizt: lol they lose 150k subscribers
twizt: the ticker rallies
mircea_popescu: shorting in a paper market is riskier than going long actually.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.426 = 0.852 BTC [-]
twizt: yo ThickAsThieves i heard ur making a game
mircea_popescu: because your profits you make shorting are still paper.
ThickAsThieves: me, making a game, never been a thing
twizt: really?
ThickAsThieves: really
twizt: duffer1 said u were
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 30 @ 0.04984998 = 1.4955 BTC [+] {4}
twizt: whats that game where people keep destroying 6 figure ships
twizt: need to make something like that for bitcoins rofl
ThickAsThieves: mp is making games tho
ThickAsThieves: or, game
twizt: nice
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ThickAsThieves: meh
twizt: rofl
mike_c: wasn't that coindesk's problem with mpex shorting? that you still end up with bitcoins.
ThickAsThieves: that was forbes, first at least
mircea_popescu: mike_c someone's, anyway. at least pre-futures
ThickAsThieves: he was set out to make it look impossible
ThickAsThieves: reporting obstacles is easier than overcoming them
mike_c: right. light bulb. that is a significant difference between shorting with options vs. x.eur :)
mircea_popescu: yeah, the thing with journos is, often their editor gives them a thing to write. like the wired kid HAD TO say some shit about "nouveau riche" in his piece, because.
mircea_popescu: conceivably forbes wanted to say that you can't short bitcoin as a support for "it's a bubble" or w/e "editorial policy" they had
ThickAsThieves: that reminds of the rap i started writing back when we were starting an IRC band
mircea_popescu: ^
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 18 @ 0.08880542 = 1.5985 BTC [+] {10}
ThickAsThieves: Nouveau riche from the faucets.
ThickAsThieves: Ice cold like my wallet.
ThickAsThieves: More withdrawals than the bank allows.
ThickAsThieves: Got OTC rep, who gon Gox me now?
mircea_popescu: noob writer's mistake, really. but it does make all sorts of marginals usable as journo replacement, so.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00423716 = 0.4237 BTC [-] {8}
ThickAsThieves: "When an Uber driver kills someone, who is responsible?"
mircea_popescu: what's an uber driver ?
ThickAsThieves: .d
ozbot: 2193847870.17428 | Next Diff in 1330 blocks | Estimated Change: 12.3047% in 8d 2h 21m 22s
ThickAsThieves: decentalized taxis!
ThickAsThieves: decentralized*
kakobrekla: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4803203#msg4803203
kakobrekla: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4803203#msg4803203
ozbot: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock]
ThickAsThieves: nice words, kako
kakobrekla: ty.
mircea_popescu: lol you have too much time
ThickAsThieves: http://bitbet.us/bet/740/may-i-suggest-9b-difficulty/
ozbot: BitBet - May I suggest 9B difficulty?
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu thats why nothing gets done
ThickAsThieves: i'm tempted to No
ThickAsThieves: but my brain tells me lessons were meant to be learned
mircea_popescu: which is why brainfucking is so pleasant
mike_c: bitbet proposal: kako is re-banned on bitcointalk by march
kakobrekla: :(
mike_c: i love your posts, just not sure if they are universally admired
ThickAsThieves: but what if kako pays for unbanment
mircea_popescu: ^
kakobrekla: that just calls for an ipo
ThickAsThieves: sell banning insurance
ThickAsThieves: we pay your bail
kakobrekla: that could work
kakobrekla: how much do they want anyway?
mircea_popescu: kakokare : you must pay some btc each month
mircea_popescu: for free unbanning down the road
kakobrekla: not they, thermos
kakobrekla: kakokare lol
mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/c8a7862e7662173cbb9c7186050bc371/tumblr_mx510oTnQe1qdz7nho1_400.gif << leaving this here if anyone needs caption base
ThickAsThieves: it looks like a monster face
mircea_popescu: to me it looks like forum investors being... serviced.
ThickAsThieves: like fleshy preying mantis
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12263 @ 0.00088498 = 10.8525 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.00085891 = 0.2577 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: another big power outage yesterday
nubbins`: i have serious reservations about the future
Apocalyptic: is anyone watching http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs ?
Apocalyptic: the woman is discussing a centralized currency backed by the federal reserve's gold
mircea_popescu: some were but i suspect eventually got bored.
Apocalyptic: panel 2 just started now
ThickAsThieves: someone shut her up already
Apocalyptic: ^
Apocalyptic: imma surf of the bitcoin thingy to promote my shit
Apocalyptic: *on
nubbins`: a gold-backed currency
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00088879 = 29.2412 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: how novel
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: "you guise are like snark bullion already" ~mpoe-pr
nubbins`: in the meantime, i just received an email receipt for that $100/$100 coin
nubbins`: so i guess i've got a birthday gift on the way ;p
nubbins`: gotta say i like this silver-backed coins thing the mint is pushing
mircea_popescu: one day the girl will read these logs and think you're such a smug asshole!!1
nubbins`: even if most of the designs are uninspiring
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, no sense masking the truth
nubbins`: when i was freaking out at our last batch of tenants, one of them said -- no joke -- "you'll be single again soon if your wife ever finds out your true nature"
nubbins`: this was in response to me calling them subhuman knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha
nubbins`: "actually i've been relaying all this to my wife, and she can't breathe for laughing"
mircea_popescu: perhaps teh mouth-breathers have a point. get her into d/s asap.
nubbins`: the mouth breathers had no point
nubbins`: their defense in legal proceedings was essentially "no we didn't"
nubbins`: in response to all the allegations
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/IlTtW1m.jpg
mircea_popescu: ^ nsfw
nubbins`: aww ;(
nubbins`: are those possums
mircea_popescu: those are QUTELS
ThickAsThieves: cutelels
nubbins`: with a name like that, i bet they've got their own ubuntu release
mircea_popescu: cuatls, really. but it needs more cute in the spelling
nubbins`: quirky qutel
nubbins`: cuirky cuatl
mircea_popescu: the 2nd one from the mother could have its own coin
mircea_popescu: flatten dodgecoin
nubbins`: the one with his face hidden by an ass?
nubbins`: a2mcoin
mircea_popescu: a nm. the 1st one. the jumper guy
mircea_popescu: derpjump of 2.5 inches.
nubbins`: taking a cute photograph = block found
nubbins`: reward is based on aesthetics
nubbins`: i wonder when we'll see a celebrity come out with their own alt?
mircea_popescu: coyne west guy neh ?
nubbins`: well yeah but in reverse
nubbins`: like justin bieber launches biebcoin
nubbins`: rather than some no-name stealing his thunder
mircea_popescu: actually, all the hollywood strumpets could band together
mircea_popescu: and make slutcoin.
mircea_popescu: blockchain stores all their secret homeporn for all eternity
ThickAsThieves: wivesofbitcoincoin
nubbins`: "worried about your image being misappropriated by those altcoin nerds? jump the gun, call Custom Alts Inc today!"
nubbins`: just like IMDb and actor photos
nubbins`: "pay us to submit a photo so you don't get stuck with a turd mugshot"
nubbins`: if kanye had done this, he could have picked a cool logo AND a better name
ThickAsThieves: i dunno, good coin names arent easy
nubbins`: doesn't have to be good
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nubbins`: for example, know what paris hilton's perfume is called?
nubbins`: paris hilton.
ThickAsThieves: plus, everyone would call them coinyes anyway
mircea_popescu: i wonder what her turds are called.
nubbins`: well no that's the thing
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves coinyes, the rapecoin ?
nubbins`: if kanye had made his coin first
nubbins`: there never would have been a coinye.
nubbins`: it woulda been some other schmo
ThickAsThieves: what i mean is like if mp made a coin called Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu: kinda surprised there's no obamacoin yet.
ThickAsThieves: we'd just call it mpexcoin
mircea_popescu: "for illegal political campaign contributions"
nubbins`: well yeah sure
ThickAsThieves: one day the YMCA changed its name to The Y
Apocalyptic: "maybe there is a backdoor somewhere in bitcoin"
ThickAsThieves: it's right behind you!
nubbins`: and magic the gathering online exchange changed its name to mtgox
Apocalyptic: lol TAT
ThickAsThieves: somneone please say No and No
nubbins`: did i ever tell you guys that we once made a bespoke children's book for a single dad?
nubbins`: 2 copies, the guy wanted. all original illustrations
nubbins`: was something like $200 per book
ThickAsThieves: notbad
nubbins`: gave one to his kid and the other to mom ;(
nubbins`: the title: "who loves you?"
nubbins`: (hint: not mom!)
ThickAsThieves: Betteridge's law
mircea_popescu: wow srlsy ?
mircea_popescu: why do people more readily spend on art to be assholes than to be pleasant ?
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: well, it never came right out and said, but...
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: you ever pay anyone 1btc to stick a sharpie in their mouth? ;p
mircea_popescu: jajaja
ThickAsThieves: zing!
mircea_popescu: see, that i posit is not my fault, but the resistance of the medium. i tried to give strippers 1 btc for free. they wouldn't take it.
mircea_popescu: once i offered it for shoving things in painful places... takers, suddenly.
mircea_popescu: people are mostly so smart they end up doing it to themselves.
ThickAsThieves: did you offer the strippers same deal?
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mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: AshleyV ping
kakobrekla: we need a bigger sample size
kakobrekla: more buttcoins and more strippers
mircea_popescu: no, real climate science depends on low sample sizes.
kakobrekla: ipcc fucking up my arguments.
dub: its cold today, global warming is bunk
kakobrekla: thats why its not 'global warming' anymore but 'climate change'
kakobrekla: it can go either way and they are right, we are doomed.
dub: sure it is
mircea_popescu: im saving myself for "climate period"
mircea_popescu: then the weather could have pms
kakobrekla: :D
dub: you should have a climate sexchange
Apocalyptic: wow the woman knows about private keys
mircea_popescu: sad fucking state of affairs we've lived to see
mircea_popescu: "oo, the monkey knows what a doorknob is!"
kakobrekla: impressive monkey
kakobrekla: litecoin guy is uncompromisable
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mircea_popescu: he;'s got his fortress of litecoinitude /
kakobrekla: pumping his shit.
Apocalyptic: well mircea, i thought here way more clueless
Apocalyptic: *her
mircea_popescu: i get you, just, generally speaking
mircea_popescu: it's sad it's gotten this low.
dub: whats next.. niggers on irc?
Apocalyptic: ^ already happened
mircea_popescu: i blame pestalozzi, personally. if every nine year old girl was given the choice of losing a finger a week or learning math like a pro we wouldn't have these problems
mircea_popescu: lots of girls with three fingers around, i guess, but hey.
jurov: from the mpex scientology thread: I wonder how the discussion would look like if there were no coinbr referrals.
jurov: hahaha
jurov: come on my shills!
libbelol: i wish mr litecoin ... knew more about how it all works? or even bothered to tell these clowns what they are talking about ?
mircea_popescu: libbelol what's that name come from ?
libbelol: libbe came from "liberator"
mircea_popescu: aha
libbelol: then i just added a lol once on irc, because libbe was taken (after i had been using it on quakenet for like 4 years+)
mircea_popescu: in likelines, before.
kakobrekla: omg litecoinguy shutup
libbelol: WHAT THE FUCK. what. the fuck are they talking about
libbelol: if an exchange holds bitcoins for you, they arent lost?
kakobrekla: if one should go under
libbelol: the coins never dissapear tho
kakobrekla: well, not until i put them in my pocket
libbelol: fair enough, but that would be something else than just the exchange failing
libbelol: that would be you STEALING the coins
kakobrekla: well going under in a broad sense
mircea_popescu: that awkward moment when you realise people trying to teach you EVERYTHING, such as for instance, physics, or how to cook
mircea_popescu: have about as much of a clue as these dudes explaining bitcoin.
kakobrekla: "they like to support alternate currency"
Apocalyptic: omg litecoin guy
libbelol: REALLY
kakobrekla: BITCHSLAP
Apocalyptic: seriously nao
libbelol: he is such a fucking tool
libbelol: hahahahahaha
libbelol: here's going to be eaten
kakobrekla: wait, no, BITSLAP is what ill do.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo mike_c benkay & the rest of the blogging crowd : you gonna trasncribe this ?
mircea_popescu: wiht like notes ? for the lulz ?
mike_c: i wish i could watch. fking internet is broken today.
mircea_popescu: could be a taaki speech moment.
kakobrekla: "so i lauched, and people saw the value, so they started mining it... " and he forgots to add "then they saw doge, and saw value in that and went mining that."
mike_c: can't access edgecast servers.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you don't understand shilling.
kakobrekla: back to the books.
libbelol: really?
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the usg debacle comes exactly less than a day after https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4802685#msg4802685
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Apocalyptic: mike_c, there will be recordings
mike_c: ah, good
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kakobrekla: some good ones http://imgur.com/a/H6vfA
Apocalyptic: he's talking about colour coins now
kakobrekla: hahaha
kakobrekla: ON COLOR TV
Apocalyptic: ^
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kakobrekla: blah
kakobrekla: disappointing talk
Namworld: yes
kakobrekla: "kinda but its like forever" ~litecoinguy
simlay: Was the first panel more interesting? I started ~10 minutes ago.
kakobrekla: it was certainly less stupid
Apocalyptic: it was yeah
Namworld: It's just the state of NY. Who cares about NY?
Namworld: First panel was actually good. At least in comparison.
kakobrekla: i wonder if btc will end up like weed in the us
kakobrekla: illegal in half the states
kakobrekla: give or take.
mooninite: way more than half
mooninite: :( *sniff* *toke*
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kakobrekla: i wouldnt be surprised tbh
kakobrekla: "we cant regulate it, throw a blanket on it and hit it with a shovel"
punkman: message from US: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVrjzOUZJI4
Namworld: The plaid Bitcoin map of the US. Legend: Gray - Illegal | Gold - Legal
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mircea_popescu: lol at the fixed brands.
mircea_popescu: simlay no.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> i wonder if btc will end up like weed in the us << there is no actual way to make bitcoin illegal. think about it.
kakobrekla: well they is no actual way to make a lot of things, yet they still do it
kakobrekla: that is not the point
Namworld: He never said it would work. Just that the states would hit on the head of their citizens found using it.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
kakobrekla: you can make it illegal by making such rules that for example you need to apply for licences and shit, but give you no actual way to get to them
kakobrekla: i have seen this happen before.
mircea_popescu: a licence to what ?
mircea_popescu: you can recreate bitcoin as fucking pet rocks.
mircea_popescu: make pet rocks illegal ?
kakobrekla: for fiat btc biz
mircea_popescu: kinda shockingly narrow usecase.
kakobrekla: yeah well i do not expect 7000 exchanges in the us.
kakobrekla: it will be as you put it shockingly few.
mircea_popescu: giving us citizens more reasons to travel abroad isn't such a bad idea.
kakobrekla: way off point, so imma gonna go. brb
mircea_popescu: that country is still governable strictly because most of the population doesn't know how shitty its life is as compared to poor people in the third world.
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mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/AGlusskiy/status/428263252066201600
ozbot: Twitter / AGlusskiy: @Mircea_Popescu I am sure that ...
mircea_popescu: incoming.
the20year: Havelock is coming along finally, don
mike_c: date set?
the20year: Hopefully trying get one today or tomorrow
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mike_c: i am curious how the havelock crowd will react to what is at least a good fiat investment.
mike_c: good luck.
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Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> https://twitter.com/AGlusskiy/status/428263252066201600 // what's the context ?
the20year: We
the20year: We'll see
mircea_popescu: i dunno, some guy's gonna help me fix bitcoinz ?
kakobrekla: i thought vitalik is onto that
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/744/charlie-shrem-will-plead-guilty-to-money-laundering incidentally.
ozbot: BitBet - Charlie Shrem will plead guilty to money laundering
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla is there some way to see conversations on twitter ?
kakobrekla: dafuq do i know
dub: doubt he'd go guilty on that
dub: one of the others maybe
mircea_popescu: nah, cause the others carry 5 years top
dub: exactly
mircea_popescu: well doh. plead guilty to a 5 year tops first offense you get out in six months.
mircea_popescu: what makes you think that's on the table ? it'd be more embarassing to the da than not making the arrest in hte first place.
dub: presumably he'll find some people to sell out
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: ironically, he could do a lot of damage arguing the case to all hell.
mircea_popescu: in spite of all the success pretense, doubtful he has either the gumption or the resources,
mircea_popescu: but then again that's what life's for, we find out.
mircea_popescu: in either case sooner or later would-be preditors will learn the hard way messing with bitcoin is not unlike trying to lick a porcupine to death.
azi`: hm.. that's so weird.. sending torvalds btc tips http://www.itworld.com/cloud-computing/402112/linus-torvalds-and-other-developers-are-leaving-bitcoins-table
mircea_popescu: that's ridoinculous, torvalds never was "at the table"
mircea_popescu: what bs is this
dub: a whole thousand dollars!
dub: he's leaving buttcoin on the table, not leaving the table of buttcoin
mircea_popescu: itworld needs to hire better monkeys.
dub: granted to an internet journalist its a lot of money
azi`: fyi its even less than 1k
azi`: more like $200
mircea_popescu: ironically, the spurious "tip" service generated less for torvalds than the strippers left on the table in the earlier linkd material
mircea_popescu: clearly very relevant and everything
the20year: I really didn't think a 30pg biz plan/prosectus would be too long with what we're posting on HL
kakobrekla: just use a pic or two, each is worth a thousand words
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FabianB: ;;premium mtgox btce
gribble: Premium of MtGox over BTC-E is currently 20.7417304756 %.
pankkake: torvalds is probably 1) unaware of the website 2) rich enough to not care about $136
pankkake: I'd certainly like a bounty system for open source devs, but I'm not very convinced "tips" can work and reward the right people
pankkake: https://www.gittip.com/ for a fiat version
ozbot: Gittip
pankkake: lol to receiver "I am making the world better by facilitating conversations about diversity, inclusivity and social justice in the hopes of promoting empathy and equality within the tech community."
pankkake: top*
mircea_popescu: pankkake tips are exactly the wrong thing in that they would split the community into two types, the actual devs and the people who make a living pretending to be devs.
mircea_popescu: it's bad enough with fucktards a la maxwell or hearn hanging on to the thing just for the "fame"
mircea_popescu: god forbid they start making a living at it, it'll be the death of os.
pankkake: it's often working that way in the circles I know, tip or not
mircea_popescu: myeah.
pankkake: some excellent devs have no social media presence, almost no existence besides posting enormous git patches on mailing lists ;)
kakobrekla: shrooms.
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ThickAsThieves: the new blockchain.info logo looks lame
ThickAsThieves: it was better before
ThickAsThieves: it was also better in blue
pankkake: they're fixing the css instead of fixing the real bugs :/
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kakobrekla: but css is the real bug
pankkake: sometimes it multiples the btcs by a random number that makes no sense and adds a $, is that css?
kakobrekla: hehe
mircea_popescu: it's c$$
mircea_popescu: i have the world's best roast in the ovben and it is KILLING ME
pankkake: Cϟϟ
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davout: ThickAsThieves: it looks kinda fuzzy/dirty
the20year: Revised the 5 year projection numbers, assuming i get my cut, they look (IMO) fantastic for investors , first year APY of 10.86% , 5th year return of 104.96%
turbo_ac100: mircea_popescu: do people repair in Romania?
davout: or maybe its just my glasses
turbo_ac100: electronics I mean
mircea_popescu: notrly.
mircea_popescu: why ?
ThickAsThieves: davout, it's poor ability to scale and questionable typography are signs they didn't hire a quality pro
ThickAsThieves: its
turbo_ac100: I have a repair business and want to find stuff in eastern europe
ThickAsThieves: i should get into bitcoin business brand mgmt
turbo_ac100: *staff rather
ThickAsThieves: teach these people to scam like adults
ThickAsThieves: (that's a joke)
mircea_popescu: wow it's still a business ?
mircea_popescu: you may find decent elec engineers on the cheap, but i doubt they'd have much practice fixing stuff. tinkering on their own more like it.
turbo_ac100: well, a repair website is. Not complicated stuff, just more or less an ifixit done right
mircea_popescu: interesting.
ThickAsThieves: another possibility for blockchain's logo is their internal pm didn't take the advice of said hired pro
turbo_ac100: ifixit.com tries to go to europe big time but they still pretty much suck
ThickAsThieves: common
mircea_popescu: so what'd i repair ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves they changed it once before, and it went the same way, shittier after.
turbo_ac100: appliances is the proper term I think. Phones, laptops, Xboxes and so on
ThickAsThieves: sounds like they have an engineer in charge of branding
mircea_popescu: i am surprised fixing your own iphone isn't against the tos.
azi`: its in a way crazy that we just throw stuff when something trivial breaks off
mircea_popescu: it is.
Dimsler_: lol
Dimsler_: took shrem away
punkman: azi`: it costs a lot to debug modern electronics, not trivial
turbo_ac100: azi`: that's what I think, too.
Dimsler_: i honestly hate the bitcoin foundation
Dimsler_: collection of retards
mircea_popescu: welcome to the club.
azi`: yeah but it probably costs a lot because the infrastructure for debugging is not built
mircea_popescu: thoi they're more comedic than anything. keeping other retards busy
ThickAsThieves: an iphone is just an expensive integrated circuit
turbo_ac100: punkman: some things are hard to debug the obvious things we do well
Dimsler_: all those clowns do is more damage than good
ThickAsThieves: replace the whole thing!
punkman: though I agree, throwing away a perfectly good TV with a blow capacitor is an incredible waste
azi`: its probably the same way with software if you don't put debugging capability in your code
punkman: *blow
punkman: *blown
Dimsler_: well i jus tdon't like how gavin has that bitcoind sourceforge key
azi`: to change the topic a bit so what's this thing with shrem, was he actually a shady guy?
Dimsler_: not like it matters
ThickAsThieves: yet they still make xmas lights with individually replaceable bulbs
turbo_ac100: for the non obvious things it works like this: sedn the device to some guy knowing his shit, pay a fixed amount that covers a basic fix (~20€) and get it debugged
Dimsler_: anyone watch NYS inquiry today?
Dimsler_: one of the guys totally owned charles lee
punkman: turbo_ac100: does that work with big items?
ThickAsThieves: who owned him?
mircea_popescu: Dimsler_ not like anyone actually uses the new versions anywya.
ThickAsThieves: i started not paying attention
punkman: been waiting 2 months to get the damn dishwasher fixed
Dimsler_: with the highlander quote of btc being the best one
ThickAsThieves: dishwashers are all disposable these days
KRS1: nothing really came of it, at least for now
mircea_popescu: azi` not as far as anyone knew, he seemed the regular 20something reefer.
ThickAsThieves: i got mine "fixed"
ThickAsThieves: waste of money
punkman: mine is expensive and nicew
turbo_ac100: punkman: difficult. It depends: for washing machines you have to have a license to repair it. The pricing is insane
mircea_popescu: washing machines, at least what i've seen, contain a 20 to 50lb piece of concrete
punkman: yah I'm waiting for the official repair guy to get the damn part
mircea_popescu: shipping that shit around is a waste.
turbo_ac100: mircea_popescu: sure, nobody sends those
mircea_popescu: besides, you should be able to fix that yourself
mircea_popescu: it's an engine and three contacts.
turbo_ac100: lol I don't need romanians for that
ThickAsThieves: if i fixed all the things i could fix myself myself, would i still be american?
turbo_ac100: mircea_popescu: plus assloads of planned obsolesence circuitry sadly
davout: i just read that "it's an engine and three contracts" XD
mircea_popescu: turbo_ac100 i meant the impersonal you. whoever's machine breaks
mircea_popescu: davout lol
turbo_ac100: in austria one big NGO has offices all over austria where they replace the µcs for better efficiency and longer life
mircea_popescu: last time mine broke down it was fun, i taught teh girlz electrics.
turbo_ac100: mircea_popescu: sure
punkman: mircea_popescu: do you happen to know what's the most recent Thinkpad without Intel AMT crap?
mircea_popescu: i don't.
mircea_popescu: is the thinkpad like the most beloved laptop design of all time by now ?
punkman: possibly
turbo_ac100: I like the austrian way but prefer a real business obv.
turbo_ac100: what about romanian developers?
mircea_popescu: what about them ?
turbo_ac100: Well, I heard it about Sofia that developers are often times willing to study somewhere in the EU and go back to Bulgaria despite way lower wages. Maybe it's the same in Bucharest?
mircea_popescu: prolly.
mircea_popescu: what do they care, internet.
turbo_ac100: Some people still want to sit in an office for w/ever reason and go local.
mircea_popescu: no, actually, eastern europe has much better hdi than the rest of the world.
mircea_popescu: people like the local food, the local girls, the local atmosphere
mircea_popescu: and they'll be fucked if they'll live in the shithole that is the uk or w/e
mircea_popescu: can't even get decent pickles.
mircea_popescu: the jews and the italians resolved this problem in the 1920s ny by inventing the deli.
KRS1: The day the deli was invented in the 1920s..well, this was a sacred day. Long live the deli.
turbo_ac100: That's why I'd like to have an office there...
mircea_popescu: well so get one, it's not expensive.
turbo_ac100: I'm off getting the necessary funding. start-up life sucks. later
turbo_ac100: :P
mircea_popescu: lol later.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1463 @ 0.000091 = 0.1331 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00088562 = 6.9521 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: openbsd story, mpoe climbs to 1. shrem story, mpoe back to 8x
mircea_popescu: i guess the greatest loser there is me.
ThickAsThieves: hmm Gmail won't let me be in two accounts if I use Opera now
ThickAsThieves: wtf
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ThickAsThieves: i think i figured it out
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kakobrekla: opera went to shit
kakobrekla: im still using it though
asciilifeform: i'd dearly love to hear of a current www browser that hasn't gone to shit.
kakobrekla: is why im still using o.