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mircea_popescu: yes, obviously it pays to be the top node, ie, to integrate everyone else's systems. hence all the "empire loses because we integrate it, can't even represent us" etc. nevertheless... this is fine and dandy until it isn't. and yes it'd be great if one had the fucking sense to NOTICE, but notice how eg cat-v.org morons FAILED to notice it's time to quit derping and start worshipping.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc 'suckless' == cat-v
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-21#1898560 << http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22suckless%22 turns out ~little and there's apparently no mention ever on trilema, yet it's firmly classified under cat-v in my head. wtf happened here, did we ever say hi or anything ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: there are other 'old unix' cargo cults in the historic record, also; all are quite similar to cat-v , near as i can tell.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: http://trilema.com/2016/cat-vorg-adnotated/ << summary of mircea_popescu's expedition to cat-v planet.
a111: 52 results for "cat-v", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=cat-v
asciilifeform: !#s cat-v
mircea_popescu: tl;dr : cat-v was a bunch of dorks collected around a chosen kid, trying to do things. chosen kid died and they turned to scar tissue.
oda: jej, so this is a cat-v type crowd?
mircea_popescu: kinda why the whole "do you have money ? no ? then shut the fuck up." works so well socially, personally and in general. because they... don't. and they know how to get it and know they can't get it. hence "cat-v" etc.
mircea_popescu: so basically, this is a sort of republic-like, some people got together trying to do [what their idea of] good is. not nearly as dead as cat-v.org thing for instance.
mircea_popescu: either "momentary lapse into lucidity" by dubious author with VERY clenched teeth, usually decade+ old ; or else cat-v/##crypto/tardstalk/reddit/tedx/etcetera.
mircea_popescu: in other weird news, i've apparently gotten hella-good at handling wanna-be leahs, on the basis of nothing in particular. meditation, i guess, not like i've even interacted with the unfiltered refuse of angloshpere since the cat-v adventure.
mircea_popescu: yes, i'm aware there's a something awful that twenty years ago used to be a sort of cat-v for socialist tards etcetera. yes i'm aware the "climate science" pseudoscientards had some mailing list they coordinated their nonsense on etc.
mircea_popescu: phf advertising cat-v ? o.O
mircea_popescu: at least in intent/intuition i can see the cat-v, wanted to be tmsr, didn't know what it wants or how it goes thesis.
phf: kind of like cat-v, from recent memory, was a fledgling tmsr at one point: mp died, asciilifeform's left elsewhere, maggots still there
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes unsurprisingly. pretty much all of extant "foss" is cat-v.org redone.
mircea_popescu: the lulz @cat-v.org idiots are instructive in this field. what matters to the powerless is an exercise left for onanists.
pete_dushenski: but if mircea_popescu vanishes we know what the future of tmsr looks like! what, you ask ? why, #cat-v ofc.
adlai: mircea_popescu: cheers! now i, too, can tell #cat-v that "there's no way that's the REAL mircea because ..."
PeterL: dos it have to do with the way the color did not end properly at the bottom of the quote from the cat-v chan?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/cat-vorg-adnotated/ << Trilema - cat-v.org. Adnotated.
asciilifeform sifted through a day's worth of 'cat-v' shitpile, found it quite sufficient
phf: asciilifeform: i had cat-v and 9front in some high regard, i was actually surprised there was a channel, with ~people~ in it
pete_dushenski: in any event, kudos to mircea_popescu for the staying power demonstrated in #cat-v! gems were mined, oh how the lulzgems were mined.
mircea_popescu: so basically, the cat-v story is, they had a mp. who died. the end.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: oh ffs, cat-v appears to be ~redditesque pigsty, i have nfi why to bother.
phf: i like the whole 9front, plan9 fork, aesthetic, http://9front.org/img/thinkaboutthefuture.front.png but with plan9 influence they obviously started drinking the go koolaid, http://ninetimes.cat-v.org, lots of go tools, but "NOTE: This page ceased updating in October, 2012". i wonder if that's when they realized that they are drinking from google's corporate spittoon
phf: i like how cat-v hosts their own copies of frequently linked rants, so that in a conversation one can just reference harmful.cat-v.org. like here's linus on c++, http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus
mircea_popescu: in other news, this cat-v thing mostly looks like "an approximation of tmsr pops up every 10 years ; this is the 2005 version"
mircea_popescu: http://harmful.cat-v.org/society/gay_marriage << kinda lulzy.
mircea_popescu: -ChanServ- [#cat-v] Welcome to #cat-v. State your assumptions or prepare to be boarded. << the similarities are striking.
mircea_popescu: $cat-v
mircea_popescu: "Cat-v.org Random Contrarian Insurgent Organization" (from http://cat-v.org/ ) << check those cats out lol.
catvorg_cultist: disclaimer: i'm not actually a part of cat-v.org group.
asciilifeform: http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/utf-8_history << moar lelz
asciilifeform: http://harmful.cat-v.org << in other lulz
asciilifeform: (bash, that is. not cat-v, who are smart folk and oughta be here)
a111: 18 results for "cat-v", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=cat-v
asciilifeform: !#s cat-v
a111: Logged on 2015-02-15 06:59 ben_vulpes: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/I_did_it_for_you_all
a111: Logged on 2015-02-15 06:59 ben_vulpes: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/I_did_it_for_you_all
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: By the cat-v plan9 people
BingoBoingo: werc is cat-v/9base thing
gribble: ZSFA -- Rails Is A Ghetto (2007-12-31) - cat -v harmful stuff - Cat-v.org: <http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ruby/rails/is-a-ghetto>; Where can I find Zed Shaw's original "Rails Is A Ghetto" essay ...: <https://www.quora.com/Where-can-I-find-Zed-Shaws-original-Rails-Is-A-Ghetto-essay>; Zed Shaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zed_Shaw>
BingoBoingo: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/xml/s-exp_vs_XML
BingoBoingo: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/xml/xml_ascent.png
BingoBoingo: trinque: Think I found it http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/csh
trinque: http://werc.cat-v.org/ << actually looks like it does use the rc shell
BingoBoingo: n6: For educational purposes only http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/operating-systems/os-suck
BingoBoingo: http://harmful.cat-v.org/society/sweden
BingoBoingo contemplates migrating to a completely suckless/cat-v desktop. Pros? Any cons?
BingoBoingo: General CMS seems solved http://werc.cat-v.org/ the blogging flavor could use twerk
ben_vulpes: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/I_did_it_for_you_all ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: incidentally, classic: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus
BingoBoingo: Related http://http02.cat-v.org/
BingoBoingo: http://ninetimes.cat-v.org/news/2014/12/11/0/
asciilifeform: required reading: http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/utah2000/utah2000.html