ben_vulpes: this implies they'll run their own rsk central bank thinger?
ben_vulpes: getting 51% signatures for each trade? or...?
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long till we cycle back to that brunette fucktard, what's her name.
mircea_popescu: nono, some beauty contest reject that then failed to find her cocksucker career, went into congressional aide pretense.
mircea_popescu: prophiria brick or audacia stove or somesuch usian style greek-given name / scullery item family name.
mod6: alright, mircea_popescu & asciilifeform ; full offline eatblock test is running again
mod6: this time with ProcessBlock took (time val) ms; db write wait (time val) ms; db read wait (time val) ms
mod6: 24K+ blocks and counting...
mod6: nmon is running again as well.
mod6: lemme see what I can do. it's an offline box lol...
mod6: grab this quick, because I probably won't leave it up there long.
ben_vulpes: "The Bindmans LLP law firm, acting on behalf of (green party, house of lords rep) Jones, contacted six of those listed to verify their passwords...In response, five of the six gave passwords that matched those given in the letter and the sixth was nearly a match."
ben_vulpes: where if i read correctly, chrome udp's passwords to such services as gmail in such a way as to 'encrypt' them but still reveal their length
ben_vulpes: nsf grantee produced a odd little video of a chrome browser running under programmatic control solving captchas and 'brute forcing' passwords
ben_vulpes: odd because in what world is that a "proof of concept", unless there's some bass ackwards msft-trained IT snotrag 'ethics' line that somehow justifies the pretense to proof of a video a twelve-year old could have faked
Framedragger: asciilifeform: just fyi i am unable to download /sadmods. i am using curl with no retry. no biggie, and i know you have more important things to do :)
☟︎ Framedragger: is there a more convenient way of organising and/or sending pgpgrams to irc folx? i have
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iCXI2/?raw=true which is ~fine. (it'll complain about unsigned key if target is such, and gpg will ask y/n there. add `--trust-model always` to gpg command if you don't like this and like to live dangerously)
☟︎ Framedragger: (then, just do `ep frame` to encrypt to my key e.g., type msg as per gpg, get paste url)
Framedragger: i could add www endpoint to scriba which would take in encrypt pgpgrams, and scriba would PM them to target. to avoid abuse etc., messages would need to be signed, tho. not sure how useful. (i'd maybe use this. could pgpgram while not connected to irc. maybe overthinking this before impending gossipd)
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 12:43 Framedragger: i could add www endpoint to scriba which would take in encrypt pgpgrams, and scriba would PM them to target. to avoid abuse etc., messages would need to be signed, tho. not sure how useful. (i'd maybe use this. could pgpgram while not connected to irc. maybe overthinking this before impending gossipd)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 12:39 Framedragger: is there a more convenient way of organising and/or sending pgpgrams to irc folx? i have
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iCXI2/?raw=true which is ~fine. (it'll complain about unsigned key if target is such, and gpg will ask y/n there. add `--trust-model always` to gpg command if you don't like this and like to live dangerously)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 10:47 Framedragger: asciilifeform: just fyi i am unable to download /sadmods. i am using curl with no retry. no biggie, and i know you have more important things to do :)
Framedragger: 1. it's why i asked, re. convenience, 2. yeah it's a terrible idea, hm, and 3. there was no intention to do any encrypting/signing on the server - god forbid
Framedragger: (current convenience simply allows for "type message, give recipient, get back url to send to", and any additional stuff is ben_vulpes' et al. 'programm0rs like to masturbate with complexity')
mircea_popescu: i guess latest trilema should be right up their... alley.
mircea_popescu: dude, not going to their shitty "conferences" is the best way to a) get some work done and b) eat well.
mircea_popescu: group of dorks complains about the rest of the dorks doing the guy a fucking favour.
mircea_popescu: looks like a fine substitute for doing any work yet another workday
Framedragger: > find interesting post; follow to interesting person's twitter; get suggestion whom to follow, on the surface it looks good (e.g. "also a hardware engineer", etc.)
Framedragger: > hm, this other person rants about something-politics, can't even be arsed to read. no content
Framedragger: used to shy away from generalising based this, i have to admit. but it's such an accurate signal (what are the chances that trans-crypto-engineer-sjw will be posting stuff related to the crpyto-engineer part?), it's mindboggling
mircea_popescu: Framedragger you know who was the original transgender engineer (and of course the smegma stains don't mention her, because why would they!) ?
Framedragger: imma just start googling soon :) vlsi as in opengl, i assume. (i dunno)
Framedragger: one lynn conway.. this name was mentioned here wasn't it..
a111: Logged on 2014-02-21 23:57 asciilifeform: conway became the personal nemesis of the author
Framedragger: she's been quite productive tho, neh? can't deny that?
Framedragger: i'm not familiar with how good/bad/evil vlsi is.
Framedragger: from initial skim of her bio, after gender change, too
Framedragger: aha rightright. that's about as much as i know, tho
mircea_popescu: now im gonna have to read that crap. why do i get involved in these things!
mod6: eatblock is upto 235K+ blocks.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: from skimming her bio, she went into activism after tech career retirement, which followed ~quite a bit after~ the change. inferring cause-effect there is imho stretching it ~very~ much. but then, i haven't met her, etc.
mircea_popescu: lol this shit. "The book especially defames trans women who are attracted to men, calling them "homosexual transsexuals" as if they were men themselves." ... which... they aren't, because... reasons ?
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i disagree. in their mind, it is completely consistent to do activism as they are 'suppressed', etc.; so i don't see how that would necessarily follow
mircea_popescu: ftr, prostitution is in point of fact the single most common occupation of transsexuals of any description, as well as of "sex activists" of whatever flavour.
Framedragger: anyway, the point is, she did lots of technical work after gender change.
mircea_popescu: this is like observing that not-particularily-bright kid who evidently likes cars is probably a driver.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: that's true, it's "rough around the edges" is an understatement for now. and in general, a ~very~ problematic position to be in. there is that...
mircea_popescu: but yes, Framedragger has it, the topic was whether engineer, not whether "good" or "bad" or whatever.
Framedragger: i don't know, i just see an engineer who did engineer work and contributions before and after gender transition; and a person who got caught into politics/issues of genderstuff after involving self in genderstuff. "meh" is my reaction.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not true, no. can tell in almost all cases.
Framedragger: (the latter may signify that genderstuff is poison, sure.)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i have to agree re. 'movement' tho, yeah..
Framedragger: yeah, i can see that. compartments of the kind are always leaky. and it's natural to then distrust in general, etc. however, if you wanted to use this as an example why no tech career happened after, you'd be begging the question.
mircea_popescu: the problem with this is that it won't allow you to see engineer-politicians, which is ALSO not compartimentalizable : it will force you to beedog, ie, not become as good as expression and telling women's original haircolor as you could, on the basis of your genetics say, actually be.
mircea_popescu: you know, they don't actually require fishermen to cut off their legs because boat anyway.
mod6: third collection of ~1Gb of entropy is complete from my first fg. running ent & dh now...
mircea_popescu: good thing mod6 is doing all this work so we can sit around reading inept reviews of even worse "research" in "psycology"
mircea_popescu: incidentally, alf is correct on one point : there is a painful spot in the history of psychology (the pseudoscience). let us delve :
☟︎ mircea_popescu: 2. 1 notwithstanding, in the early phase of the post-industrialization lower-upper class (a faux construction consisting of lower class material enjoying upper class easements, pretensions and expectations) struggling with the question of what the fuck to do with themselves, "studying" "psychology" became a thing.
mircea_popescu: it did not actually have the wings to fly, which is why the social group in question eventually settled on "charity" as briefly mentioned yest. the whys and wherefores are worthy of a volume, and quite well fleshed out, but we won't bother here.
mircea_popescu: 3. abandoned in its only possible role (all pseudoscience can do is supply crystal balls for court magicians) by the dominating class (female culture is the larger part of lower-upper middle class culture for very fundamental reasons - they're genetically insufficient) it found a 2nd life among the smaller half.
mircea_popescu: 4. freud, jung and the rest of the "men going their own way" of the 1800s are exactly this - exponents of the minority bourgeois party trying to fashion a crystal ball "just as good" as the prevailing female construct (religion-blabla-etc) out of you know. this.
mircea_popescu: 5. this resulted in a very strongly ~prescriptive~ pseudoscience, the fantasy of all "therapists" etc being that you go to them to acquire permission to be who you are. a sort of, if you will, slavery for infantile inept "masters", cheaply made and mass distributed.
mircea_popescu: 6. the reabsorbtion of this unseemly polyp in the general discourse of lower-upper class was a necessary evolution, and hadn't it punctured through the whole "how dare you say man-women are whores!" it'd have punctured somewhere else. lightning strikles on the basis of charge not on the basis of dielectric failure. heck, it'll create the latter to serve the former.
mircea_popescu: it's unfortunate that a schmuck who actually had the unmitigated audacity to tell people he is a "chair of blabla" was also so fucking clueless as to not know the foregoing, and truly expected he'll be playing with his dickie in the sand unfettered cca 2004. but then again -- this is the just desserts for sinking one's time and productive life in the idiotic line of chasing nonsense.,
☟︎ mircea_popescu: sure. because guess what -- all transsexuals are whores, and this includes bailey.
mircea_popescu: now : it is not directly evident to me how one engineer riding chariots in battle and raping the women of a different tribe of chariot-riding idiots is in any sense disqualifying.
mircea_popescu: but, let the record reflect that i've myself done all that ; and will. i find it in no sense contradictory or mutually exclusive with understanding or the thought process generally.
mircea_popescu: right. which is exactly a restatement of the above comment re bailey.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 15:46 mircea_popescu: it's unfortunate that a schmuck who actually had the unmitigated audacity to tell people he is a "chair of blabla" was also so fucking clueless as to not know the foregoing, and truly expected he'll be playing with his dickie in the sand unfettered cca 2004. but then again -- this is the just desserts for sinking one's time and productive life in the idiotic line of chasing nonsense.,
mircea_popescu: let us bring the matter to a trilema article. you've read the definition of the romanian expression "pai nu?" ?
mircea_popescu: so then. am i thereby discredited, slavegirl will say "oh, i only want pencildick masters ?"
mircea_popescu: suppose we're at cinema and crack whore walks by. if i fuck her, discredited ? suppose crack whore's son/father/husband walks by and i crack him one, for some reason or no reason at all. discredited ?
mircea_popescu: this discreditation theory is what well-meaning old jewish women teach entirely useless jewish boys, for the purpose of having jewish girls running around naked.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the superior can not be discredited from engaging the inferior on his own terms ; because THE ONLY POINT of superiority is that the superior gets to choose whether to superior or inferior, whereas the inferior gets no such choice, but must inferior.
mircea_popescu: a world where "the superior with the superior and the inferior with the inferior" is the ideal female world of flat hierarchy.
mircea_popescu: no. i will fuck five dollar crack whores every time i feel like it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you're serious you'll have no more or less reason than you had before. of course you'll doubt, what is this.
mircea_popescu: well yes, this much we had half hour ago. the whys dun seem to be working out too well though.
mircea_popescu: yes, but you also are mixing in a personal "kgb == gender activism in the us", which...
mircea_popescu: yes, i'm aware there's a something awful that twenty years ago used to be a sort of cat-v for socialist tards etcetera. yes i'm aware the "climate science" pseudoscientards had some mailing list they coordinated their nonsense on etc.
mircea_popescu: and if tomorrow i get in an argument with some idiot and shoot him, will you be all "dude, you shouldn't shoot people" ?
mircea_popescu: oh. i didn't mean i personally shoot him. i just mean you know, he gets shot.
mircea_popescu: i can see all sorts of differences. which one do you say is controlling here ?
mircea_popescu: this is a valid point -- except note that lynn's excuised by it.
mircea_popescu: at the time -- this was no empire. it's more or less the transgender stonewall inn moment
mircea_popescu: or whatever they called that low rent ny pub where faggots for the first time fought back against the pigs.
mircea_popescu: 2004, you recall, wash bush, and a very power hungry and not yet paintsuited abomination running up and down the country trying to create some sort of "future democrat alliance"
mircea_popescu: so the 1k or so transgender freaks got a seat at the table, mostly for religious reasons
mircea_popescu: (the "our democracy" religious-science needed some weird.)(
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suppose this is then the root of difference.
mircea_popescu: moreover here's a different spot of trouble -- suppose a-friend-who-is-not-me has the remarkable bad fortune of beign crowned/acclaimed god-emperor of everything. did thereby his previous a-ok "long hand" now become a very unok "empire" and consequently he's supposed to do what ? leave them behind and move over to washington to be trumped ? or how's the logic here work.
mircea_popescu: oh, we're assuming you'd be privy to that ? "how he runs it" is a box open to your inspection ?
mircea_popescu: can't reference variables not declared in your scope, alfie!
a111: Logged on 2017-04-18 20:26 asciilifeform: yes | dd of=out bs=1024k count=10
mircea_popescu: this is what the psychology crowd wants to sell, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: of course there's alternative. what the fuck do you suppose a classical education is for ?
mircea_popescu: no, but it gives you enough sense to not write your minesweeper applet in such a way as to import netbase.
mircea_popescu: and don't open the pandora's box of "imagine" lest you fall under a hail of arrows wrt irl "alternatives" in compouting.
mircea_popescu: only reason asciilifeform finds squirrels cleverness suprising is because he himself is shockingly sheltered.
mircea_popescu: but perhaps now you earn some respect for my bottled mouse!
mircea_popescu: in the sense computer "is deterministic machine", so is human brain. "oh OF COURSE he'll get out of rain, what!"
mircea_popescu: point of fact, they prolly made it for longer than humans will.
mircea_popescu: (this is not necessarily speaking of catastrophe -- humans are much more likely to progressively mutilate themselves into unrecognizability than to just extinct)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 16:14 asciilifeform: to an extent
mircea_popescu: ie, in tl;dr terms : shooting for an inexistent crime the only politician who provably did not engage in it this century.
mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing you should do anything. i am pointing out a mechanism you describe is a) part dreamdust and b) not workyirl.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: in related news, Last night I saw a baby bunny hopping through the yard adorably darting in and out of cover. This morning I find bits of baby bunny fur scattered in a narrow open area between structures. Cat 1 Breeders 0
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I haven't seen cat since last year. Crediting kill to cat based on there being parts not eaten.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Because cats are spree killers whose thrill hunger exceeds their food hunger
BingoBoingo: Anyways perhaps the alf vermin problem is filthy neighbors rather than lazy cats?
BingoBoingo: they just produce too much food for the breeding vermin and cats simply lack time, or scale of vermin problem is bad for cat morale?
BingoBoingo: Perhaps you haven't landscaped in enough ambushes and other tactical features for cats to enjoy.
Framedragger: mod6: just fyi, your `dd if=/dev/ttyUSB0 of=fg1.fg3.bin` doesn't look to include that padding flag?
mod6: Framedragger: alf's discovery of the padding flag wasn't found until after i had started this collection.
mod6: I'm doing that test next.
mod6: will collect like: `dd iflag=fullblock if=/dev/ttyUSB0 of=fg1.fg4.bin`
mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, 8.000000's everytime from ent.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> not landscaped, but place came with a bunch << Catnip is a perenial herb, gets respectable size...
mod6: ok, collecting another ~1Gb, this time using iflag=fullblock
mod6: will report back in ~1 day
Framedragger will move ass time permitting and collect his 1gb, too
jurov: can fuckgoat be overclocked?
mircea_popescu: that'd be the ultimate rng pump. "We have this array of matter -- think memory stick. at every given tick, each either decays or doesn't. tick here has no physical meaning, it can be shorter than measurable irrespective of measuring mechanism"
mircea_popescu: nah, just make ram stick with lyso instead of doped si, then read it normally.
mircea_popescu: anti-ecc ram. "we guarantee no bits can be read as they were stored!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, run it at 70 C or so, i expect electron cloud will just eat it up, no crystal lattice deffects induced
mircea_popescu: i guess this is why sci-fi is pulp rather than literature.
jhvh1: Scintillating conversation!
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm really enjoying the notes from scintillator quest
phf: fwiw, it's socially acceptable to cook cicadas in maryland, every 9 or whatever years that they come out
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes crickets are supposedly delicacy, yoiu can get them chocolate covered or with nuts.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 19:45 asciilifeform: but go and buy a brick of it.
ben_vulpes: here i was thinking that rooting around in the dirt for grubs was for teh poors
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, it rained so densely here antennas couldn't see each other half mile away.
ben_vulpes: "trees", but to answer the first question i suppose a resounding "no"
mircea_popescu: "trees" in the sense that at the root of certain oak trees.
ben_vulpes: at least there's a trained pig involved, that sounds like some sort of capital investment.
ben_vulpes: also truffles are hard to find, aren't crickets farmed? or was that cockroaches
ben_vulpes: this concludes the #trilema daily episode of ben_vulpes is wrong about everything
a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 20:01 mircea_popescu: sold by the 100k ballots.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-15 20:17 Rassah: asciilifeform: Atmel SAM4L series running the software, with random number being generated only from SRAM, in combinaton with other things we're considering, like a salt you can add in a TXT file
a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 17:48 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at one point we had a thread with d00d who sold 'sram as rng' iirc.
mircea_popescu: all in all, the whole conway/bailey pile of shenanigans is a fine de-facto blueprint of "activism" of the ilk every idle nobody and her star-sister's trying to engage in.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as per link, "RAGE ON THE RIGHT A rage is growing on the right. Before it is done, untold numbers of men and women may have to die, casualties in America's ongoing culture wars. By Mark Potok, Editor, SPLC Intelligence Report".
mircea_popescu: i was just observing that intel dug out stuff in your linkpile making my earlier position that less tenable.
danielpbarron: i just watched Brazil the other night, maybe the reference is not as obvious as i thought
mircea_popescu: a lust fo powa will do strange things to habitually powerless people.
ben_vulpes: great scenery though. walls all the same color the landlord left 'em in.
ben_vulpes: a few black, a few a dark green, kiddo's room is blue
ben_vulpes: off-white above eye-level, colors below
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does not twiddle living space aesthetics?
ben_vulpes: nobody said anything about now much exposed
ben_vulpes: part of a balanced interior decoration diet.
mircea_popescu: anyway, random chav or w/e you call the plebs where you live. what's notable ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-18 04:36 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: 0 word re where it was for ~2wks << "BitBet Mod 17-04-17 at 14:49 Dear BitBet users, Our apologies for the extended downtime. We underwent a ddos attack, motivated by a rather base extortion attempt (the 4th or 5th this year, but this one was unusually large). We have taken steps with our ISP to buy additional ddos protection capacity and are back to normal operations. All funds under our
Framedragger: oh, thanks. not been a diligent reader of logs for last coupla days.
ben_vulpes: in other news, portland fashioning itself as a testbed for robocar experiments
ben_vulpes: by which i mean a testbed for hooligans with GPUs, bad attitudes, and a cursory interest in adversarial image generation.
mod6: do some magic, make every destination river
mod6: AWS: Account has been closed.
ben_vulpes: might be fun to distribute large fabric squares to bike scum that say something like "THIS PATCH HACKS ROBOCARS" with a nonsense illustration below