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asciilifeform: floating point gizmo
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, did anyone ever actually bake a pdf2www viewer gizmo ? ( i wanted to link to e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-16#1715210 and other oldstuff, at various points, but am loathe to link direct turd, really oughta be a thing which eats link to pdf and shits a http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html - style item ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: and notably, by some accounts the 'distribute the mass' gizmo did not actually work very well, hence why the thing was eventually scrapped. ( and not because 'usa asked eltsin nicely', as was the popular legend at the time )
asciilifeform: ^ the gizmo on the right, was a hydraulic thing to push any electric wires above the tracks, out of the way. whole thing was pretty clever.
mircea_popescu: if you don't know how to get to toilet, you have problems gizmos won't fix ; and if going anywhere else why the fuck are you by yourself.
mircea_popescu: i suppose i could sell random ro trilema page gizmo.
ben_vulpes: https://gizmodo.com/meet-the-woman-who-leads-nightwatch-google-s-internal-1825227132 << haw haw, google 'cmu alum' attempts to get homomorphic encryption into production, discovers upon review by people who actually write instead of wank^H^Hx theoretic that it'd take more horsepower than google has worldwide
asciilifeform: laplinker: last i saw they were still available with 'gizmo1'
mircea_popescu: !!unrate gizmolearner
mats: i have two gizmo1 kits also
asciilifeform only knows 1 other x64 board with schems: ‘gizmo’
asciilifeform: the low-wattage amd champ, incidentally, is the g-series ( as in 'pcengines', 'gizmo', and other sageprobetronic boards ) -- whole box pulls 10-20w
kanzure: http://gizmodo.com/why-bringing-back-a-wooly-mammoth-is-no-longer-science-1797099747
mircea_popescu: now im gonna have to read gizmodo ?
ben_vulpes: tee so the thought police cracked down on the dood behind the (entirely wackily formatted) http://gizmodo.com/exclusive-heres-the-full-10-page-anti-diversity-screed-1797564320 : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo
asciilifeform: the value of apu1, or gizmo, etc is not 'cheap node box'
asciilifeform: ( there are 3 known boards with these, at least considering only ones that you can actually BUY : apu1; gizmo1; and gizmo2 . afaik . )
trinque has the gizmo and sage sitting here too
asciilifeform: and presoldered sage header. (doesn't come with a sage box, however, unlike 'gizmo1')
asciilifeform: 'gizmo2' is a slightly moar 'human' box, it has hdmi port even
mircea_popescu: gizmolearner yes. you can maintain coversation continuity even if your connection fails. so no need to apologize.
Framedragger: gizmolearner: http://btcbase.org/log ; http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema ; http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/today ; pasting anchor hrefs from the first and the last will make bots sitting in channel quote those lines
mircea_popescu: gizmolearner you know how to use the logs ?
asciilifeform: gizmolearner: keep in mind that the article that brought you here, would not exist if not but for the 'politics'.
mircea_popescu: gizmolearner honestly i don't think anyone is. politics is like cleanning, nobody builds himself a lab for the joy of having to clean it up periodically.
ben_vulpes: gizmolearner: "the most serene republic (of bitcoin)"
mircea_popescu: gizmolearner well, that's what the republic is for. literally, tmsr = the republic of the leftover.
mircea_popescu: gizmolearner no. just because most women are unfuckable doesn't mean all are. or ever will be.
mircea_popescu: gizmolearner i actually believe that point was cca 2005.
mircea_popescu: gizmolearner you need to be thinking on a machine costing a quarter an hour to arrive at the conclusion a machine could outthink some guy making money.
mircea_popescu: gizmolearner "used to do security software" as in, anonymously ?
mircea_popescu: !!key gizmolearner
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 14:31 gizmolearner: I thought it was just a null password? https://www.embedi.com/files/white-papers/Silent-Bob-is-Silent.pdf
mircea_popescu: gizmolearner did you ever say what you did for a living or anything ?
asciilifeform: exactly not like. 'test socket' is what folx used to call a 'zif', gizmo for use in factory to test ~chips~ on conveyor, rated for many insertion cycles and easy to open/close
asciilifeform: needs dedicated gizmo, to work.
asciilifeform: gizmolearner: you do it with induced pci write cycles. see 'flashrom' (i have the beginnings of a 'flashrom' back-end to sage, but not finished yet sadly)
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated gizmolearner 1 << start-up something something, dunno.
mircea_popescu: !!rate gizmolearner 1 start-up something something, dunno.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 15:06 gizmolearner: x86 should reset to 0xfffffff0
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 13:12 gizmolearner: Soldering debug I can do. Having PCB manufactured is a bit beyond me
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 13:04 asciilifeform: gizmolearner: theoretically you can attach probe to any (but the latest, crippled) amd cpu using a 'socket interposer' that sandwiches under the chip. but as to where to get it -- no one seems to know.
mircea_popescu: gizmolearner it starts at whatever you have in that register neh ?
gizmolearner: ƒAny idea why reset on Gizmo explorer doesn't starts at EIP=0xfffffc10 instead of 0xfffffff0?
Framedragger: gizmolearner: now you can `/msg deedbot !!up gizmolearner`
deedbot: Framedragger rated gizmolearner 1 << apu etc. tinkerer / new blood
Framedragger: !!rate gizmolearner 1 apu etc. tinkerer / new blood
deedbot: B147983D4E7087710B0DC9D0BA56F6ACA4219D40 registered as gizmolearner.
Framedragger: gizmolearner: just fyi, you could register your gpg key with deedbot (http://deedbot.org/help.html), would make things easier
deedbot: gizmolearner voiced for 30 minutes.
Framedragger: !!up gizmolearner
gizmolearner: https://www.gizmosphere.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/4531_Gizmo2_ProBRIEF_FNL.Element14.pdf says Gizmo2 is only 1GB?
gizmolearner: The Gizmo Explorer only has 1GB. Ideally I would like something with ~8-16GB (or DIMM slots)
asciilifeform: gizmolearner: if you don't feel like soldering the debug jack : biggest readily available board is probably gizmo2
deedbot: gizmolearner voiced for 30 minutes.
Framedragger: !!up gizmolearner
asciilifeform: gizmolearner: theoretically you can attach probe to any (but the latest, crippled) amd cpu using a 'socket interposer' that sandwiches under the chip. but as to where to get it -- no one seems to know. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 07:00 gizmolearner: I noticed in the probe faq that new APUs aren't supported. Any thoughts on what the best board (memory capacity I guess) that will work with the probe?
deedbot: gizmolearner voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!up gizmolearner
fromloper: The Gizmo Explorer that came with the probe. In theory it supports AMDs VMM extensions
asciilifeform: even had the electroshocker gizmo, when i rode the train ( helped! )
mircea_popescu: ideally the way this goes, you call the agency, girl shows up, you spend ten minutes going through legal red tape / reading paperwork boilerplate / filling consent forms whatever. then you pump her a little, there's various gizmos and gadgets measuring things, then you play a little board game on the basis of the measurements for say 20 minutes or so.
asciilifeform: ^ www-based gizmo
mircea_popescu: “The president is the original classification authority so he has enormous discretion about when and under what circumstances to do that,” Zach Goldman, the executive director of NYU’s Center on Law and Security, told Gizmodo. “If he decides he wants to read classified documents in the open, I don’t know what the intelligence community can do about that.”
asciilifeform: trinque: it's in yer gizmo2, lel. just gotta write the driver!111
asciilifeform: http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/12/flight-cancelled-after-moron-names-wi-fi-network-galaxy-note-7 << in unrelated lulz.
mircea_popescu: you'd think they had wind back in 50`000`000 bc back when ants were a hot new gizmo.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's been 2.0'd meanwhile : http://www.gizmosphere.org/
asciilifeform: and 'gizmo-board'
mircea_popescu: cuz "gizmo1" and bs.
a111: 350 results for "\"gizmo\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22gizmo%22
mircea_popescu: !#s "gizmo"
a111: 0 results for "gizmoboard", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=gizmoboard
asciilifeform: !#s gizmoboard
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: At one point Gawker made everyone get one. At one point Gizmodo chick got a hold of cazalla and myself about GAW scam
asciilifeform: soooo somebody linked this turd, https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/575 , and i read the paper to try an' see how the fuck a gizmo that requires you to send bitcoin to folx you don't know can be 'trust-free'. took exactly 30 seconds to read to the point where it relies on 'timelocked' transactions.
shinohai: I was on the fence about it anyway, spent my gizmo budget on a lappy to run African linux for testing eulora repos instead.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-23 02:00 trinque: thortron: http://www.semiconductorstore.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=48524 << linked from the gizmo 1's website
shinohai: WHo all has these Gizmos right now ... mod6 ?
adlai: in other news, i have sitting next to me a yet-unboxed Gizmo Explorer 1, which compromises the rest of the night's "work" (after qntring the diff adjustment)
kmalkki: I mean the gizmo add-on board has FT232H on it, just use 2nd ttl-uart2usb
kmalkki: btw.. gizmo1 explorer board can provide serial console and coreboot
kmalkki: btw, sometimes I was able to get gizmo1 into state where smartprobe was unable to write SPI
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how does one get an x86-64 proggy to run on a bare cpu like the gizmo?
asciilifeform: but most of the 'gizmos' died.
ben_vulpes: 1:1 with gizmos? or you found an supplier of the probe alone
ben_vulpes: gizmo wouldn't respond to keypad inputs until i released it in gdb
ben_vulpes: 1) power gizmo 2) count to 30 3) plug sage into gizmo 4) gdb ?
adlai has been following along, question can be rephrased as "is gizmo appropriate as My First Debugger a la https://www.amazon.com/Plan-Toys-My-First-Camera/dp/B00BJKW8U0 except 'for children aged 18 years and up'"
a111: Logged on 2016-10-02 06:11 adlai: asciilifeform: how much value is there in getting the Gizmo Explorer as a first educational toy in this field, given that I currently have no idea what to do with it other than pilling and whatever else you suggest?
adlai: asciilifeform: how much value is there in getting the Gizmo Explorer as a first educational toy in this field, given that I currently have no idea what to do with it other than pilling and whatever else you suggest? ☟︎
trinque: but then the gizmo is not halted, right? it's asking me to press any key "to exit keypad test"
trinque: asciilifeform: so far always receiving E64 when I load gdbinit.txt, gizmo is booted to the point where it asked me to press a key on the keypad
asciilifeform: and no, gizmo first, then sage.
trinque: any particular order to boot the devices? I figured sage, then gizmo
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-26: [19:55:52] <asciilifeform> trinque et al : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/g2.jpg << 'gizmo2' board booting up the random crummy linux thing that comes with it.
asciilifeform: trinque et al : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/g2.jpg << 'gizmo2' board booting up the random crummy linux thing that comes with it.
trinque: asciilifeform: that gizmo 1 kit *does* have the sage
trinque: description only says "connector" but http://www.gizmosphere.org/products/gizmo-explorer-kit/ says it has the sage itself