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mod6: lobbes: you still wanna buy & ship some SSDs for pizarro for BTC? chat us up in #pizarro about the details.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 a) why not just sell it to pizarro and b) it's really no rush, end of the month's fine. << thanks for the time horizon. we'll plan on getting the hot-spare racked and going for sure by end of June.
mircea_popescu: mod6 a) why not just sell it to pizarro and b) it's really no rush, end of the month's fine. ☟︎
mod6: -july. 3) Upon receipt of the first drive shipment, we can add those additional drives to the hot-spare-evironment - as needed. They'll be earmarked for S.MG. 4) Pizarro will then actually place another order of 5 drives to be shipped just to have on hand.
mod6: And what we're proposing is this: 1) the bitcoin foundation will give S.MG its SAMSUNG 1tb ssd - we can get that drive into the hot-spare-environment and get it racked in the next i.e. 48 hours. This will allow diana_coman to boot up and do whatever testing/gymnstaics she needs. meanwhile 2) Pizarro will make 1st order of 5 1tb ssds from shitazon and have those shipped asap. They should arrive by about mid
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:28 diana_coman: trinque, if I understand it correctly, I could have a cuntoo right now and move later on to v-tree but a. there is some work to be done to configure it properly for the exact pizarro hardware b. it's unclear whether I'll be able to emerge (i.e. build musltronically) all the stuff I need ; correct?
diana_coman: trinque, if I understand it correctly, I could have a cuntoo right now and move later on to v-tree but a. there is some work to be done to configure it properly for the exact pizarro hardware b. it's unclear whether I'll be able to emerge (i.e. build musltronically) all the stuff I need ; correct? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 16:46 mircea_popescu: which brings us to : ben_vulpes would pizarro be amenable to bring up the spare sometime so she makes it a full gnat musl thing, test whether we can move everything there, and either move it (so basically, moving servers) or else backing down (so basically i guess either renting both for a while or powerting back down the spare) ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-6-20#383922 << of interest to potentially all pizarro customers ; updated disk cost ( via the method used to deliver BingoBoingo the cable in earlier experiment )
BingoBoingo: http://logs.bvulpes.com/search?q=disks&c=pizarro
mircea_popescu: which brings us to : ben_vulpes would pizarro be amenable to bring up the spare sometime so she makes it a full gnat musl thing, test whether we can move everything there, and either move it (so basically, moving servers) or else backing down (so basically i guess either renting both for a while or powerting back down the spare) ? ☟︎
mod6: im not done catching up on this solid log yet; but if someone wants to make some money, can always start sellin for pizarro!
deedbot: Invoiced ben_vulpes 0.40847278 << "wire to the Pizarro DC sent 2018-06-12" ☟︎
jurov: !!invoice ben_vulpes 0.40847278 "wire to the Pizarro DC sent 2018-06-12"
lobbes: in other news, I've finally resurrected my blog. Now coming live from the blazingly fast pizarro rockchip >> http://blog.lobbesblog.com/
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 21:31 deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.04344809 << 1 rockchip @ pizarro, april 19 2018 -- april 19 2019
mod6: lobbes: http://www.mod6.net/pizarro_banners/pizarro_avatar1.png
lobbes: Hey mod6, not urgent, but could you create a pizarro banner in an avatar ratio? As much as I like the beachdick avatar I made, it doesn't communicate 'ISP' very well. Here's the size it'd need to be >> https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_138230.png
lobbesbot: mod6: Sent 47 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-hosting-rate-sheet/ << plox to make FUCKGOATS text link to subj
asciilifeform: !Q later tell mod6 http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-hosting-rate-sheet/ << plox to make FUCKGOATS text link to subj
mod6: asciilifeform: http://pizarroisp.net/
mod6: http://www.mod6.net/pizarro_banners/pizarro_nosuchlabs_banner1.png
mod6: I have some more that I just threw up on my site; a few to pick from: http://www.mod6.net/pizarro_banners/
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 20:20 mod6: http://www.mod6.net/pizarro_banners/pizarro_banner1.png
mircea_popescu: currently the financial position of pizarro is long cash / short tangibles (90/10 or something like that is the split iirc ?) meaning it will gain when fiat depreciates and lose when it appreciates.
mircea_popescu: yes, if pizarro had 10 btc worth of gear end of q1, then pizarro'd have had 15+ btc worth of gear today.
mircea_popescu: well, consider the situation in the field. the unearned income acct hurt, in that pizarro will have to service in the future in excess of current fiat value ; the capital goods acct helped, in that the servers it owns are worth more in btc than they were when bought.
mircea_popescu: this movement'd have greatly benefited a hardware heavy isp (in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-04#1445680 ) ; it greatly hurts a forward-payments / unearned income isp as pizarro stands ☝︎
asciilifeform: pizarro is afaik the only moving part we've got that at all feels the exch rate
mircea_popescu: lobbes, alternatively, if you find actually interesting banner selling ppl i'll both pay you for the effort and buy their banners to help take some load off zee pizarro. you have almost enough here to start your own "digital media" agency, just need to hire some worthless ditzen now and is all set!
mod6: I want to get more advertising for Pizarro going, and I thought I would just drop this in here so other republicans are aware if they wanna help pitch in on the banner effort.
mod6: http://www.mod6.net/pizarro_banners/pizarro_banner1.png ☟︎
mod6: Hi all, Pizarro is working on some advertising materials - in particular banner ads that can be placed on blogs / sites. We'll be coming up with some sort of amount we can pay for advertisers per month to have this up on their homepages / main pages.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 00:30 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824464 << in perhaps better formulation, the very point of having arbiter is so as to avoid exam taking ; the whole point of having "written contract" (import here pizarro's coc, import here the "opposable instrument" thread with trinque, etc) is to permit exam taking. these are contrary design constraints.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824464 << in perhaps better formulation, the very point of having arbiter is so as to avoid exam taking ; the whole point of having "written contract" (import here pizarro's coc, import here the "opposable instrument" thread with trinque, etc) is to permit exam taking. these are contrary design constraints. ☝︎☟︎
ave1: the libre computer board is in the pizarro rk? it seems to be 80$ for 4G. This is the same price, for the rockpro64.
asciilifeform: ave1: this is a kind of 'plus' version of the pizarro rk, yes
asciilifeform: it is theoretically possible to turn rk3328-roc-cc ( as in pizarro pilot plant ) into a portable of a kind. one can get miniature hdmi lcd, etc. but there is no convenient way to handle power; it expects 5v, and has no provisions for interrogating battery level, one would have to build something , rather gnarly.
asciilifeform: ( rk3399 is a bog-standard rockchip, very similar to the one in pizarro pilot plant, but with 6 cores instead of 4 )
a111: Logged on 2018-06-04 19:36 asciilifeform: a rockchip cluster under snsa banner , for pizarro, also under construction ( currently still in component search phase ) , construction also planned for this mo
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820639 build as s.nsa, sell to pizarro? ☝︎
asciilifeform: a rockchip cluster under snsa banner , for pizarro, also under construction ( currently still in component search phase ) , construction also planned for this mo ☟︎
deedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2018/06/04/pizarro-statement-may-2018/ << PizzaroISP - Pizarro Statement, May 2018
lobbes: On my todo list is prop up an instance of the tmsr logbot on my pizarro rockchip and redo the #eulora logs to be fed from that. I built the #eulora log-o-tron back in 2015, and back then I had just typed 'ls' for the first time in my life, so I wager I can make the whole process much saner this time around.
mod6: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-6-2#366535
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-06-02 00:13 BingoBoingo: The point where L2 Republicans with productive history get blocked from purchasing Pizarro services over a Lordly negrating, and where efforts at resolution suggest the only problem is skin insufficiently resistant for Lordly responsibility... is the sort of situation where I would consider deploying my own power to negrate.
lobbes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-6-2#366691 << Since there seems to be some angst and confusion here on -why- I negrated the mouse in question, let me try to clarify. I had 0 problems (even liked the d00d) before he decided to turn his games of "I am butthurt because I suffered what I see as great injustice, so let me bitch and try to manipulate from the sidelines" (i.e old woman games) onto lobbes. I simply -have no time- for such insanity
lobbes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-5-31#366191 << You know, I was still going to rate you positively on the basis of your service to the republic, but then I thought "why?". You decide that on your way out the door you'll try and casually attack my reputation on the basis of... what exactly? Yeah, I made those comments. But then I sat, thought, came to my senses, left kako to rot, joined #t, built an auction bot, built an archive process, lea
a111: Logged on 2018-05-31 15:48 asciilifeform: in other noose, unmodified pizarro pilotplant rootfs ( as published in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 and to rc customers ) boots ( with, for the time being , heathen kernel ) on cp101pa .
asciilifeform: in other noose, unmodified pizarro pilotplant rootfs ( as published in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 and to rc customers ) boots ( with, for the time being , heathen kernel ) on cp101pa . ☟︎
asciilifeform itches to supply folx with ready-to-eat gnat-on-rockchip, both on pizarro cluster and in the flensed c101pa box
asciilifeform: ( and for some reason they announced it via spamatron ? or whole thing, disinfo? i've neither any idea, nor particularly care... http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-5-26#363971 )
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/28/draft-pizarro-isp-good-neighbor-policy-rewrite/ << Bingo Blog - Draft Pizarro ISP "Good Neighbor Policy" Rewrite
mod6: The Advertised Republican Nodes list [http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html] has been updated to include The Bitcoin Foundation's node @ Pizarro.
ben_vulpes: hey BingoBoingo would you apply the same razor you applied to the landing page copy to the rest of the copy on the pizarro site?
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/24/draft-pizarro-shared-hosting-ad-copy/ << Bingo Blog - Draft Pizarro Shared Hosting Ad Copy
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1817939 << I don't think being too technical is necessarily a bad thing, but my own issue with ben_vulpes' original was that a) too 'cheesy' b) too much 'digging' to unearth the selling points. Conversely, I like how ave1's version is straight and to the point (e.g. bullet points of "why Pizarro" are front and center). Good skeleton imo ☝︎
mod6: ave1: Looks like you maybe took your attempt at the Pizarro landing page down?
mircea_popescu: i would say it is an absolute requirement for pizarro to maintain a localbitcoins account and sink in the required time to build itself a network of known-good users, as these in fact appear to exist, and may constitute humanity candidates / come in useful laterally.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 17:26 mircea_popescu: but anyway, im off to manage some efforts to research the world for pizarro's benefit inter alia, so bbs.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, im off to manage some efforts to research the world for pizarro's benefit inter alia, so bbs. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ah i see whjat you mean now, i thought you meant you hate the idea hitler can see pizarro-set price and ride.
mircea_popescu: though i'm guessing pizarro might actually prefer monthly rather than weekly fixings
mircea_popescu: (and incidentally, a process for price formation was actually proposed, back in the pre-pizarro tmsr isp days : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1738849 ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but definitely feed eg pizarro first.
trinque: asciilifeform: what volume of printolade does pizarro need per month?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to be fair , pizarro dun necessarily need usd-flavour printolade, comceivably other flavours would suffice
asciilifeform: asciilifeform was running a miniature ver of this, for pizarro, could say.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 03:13 mircea_popescu: tell you what : do trinque's thing ; then do the ssh/ssl thing ; then we can talk about you running this thing exactly like pizarro is run, why the hell not.
lobbes: trinque's got a point re: marketing materials. Also, can I get a copy of the service agreement pizarro has with dc (en español is fine)? The primary selling point for the shared hosting is going to be "host whatever you want", but it obviously cannot be "anything" so salesperson needs to know the edges
ben_vulpes: lobbes: for so long as a customer is paying pizarro is the intention
mircea_popescu: hey, i got good news for you : a) BingoBoingo escaped to uruguay on the strength of pizarro ; and diana_coman started her s.mg career as an effectual player.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 19:49 mircea_popescu: ~technically~ pizarro is blocked (rather, protected) from the need to act by, indeed as pointed out, i having rented it in my own name. "for him" or not, pizarro's not held to care. but this was a palliative in place specifically because i expected something in this vein, the fellow is very phenomena-driven, sorta like the brains of frogs only work when there's ligjht bombarding the retinas and thereby powering the rest of th
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:48 lobbes: mod6: re pizarro wot policy: so you're saying positive lordly ratings do not cancel out negative lordly ratings? i.e. rule is simply: "any lordly negrate disualifies?"
mircea_popescu: ~technically~ pizarro is blocked (rather, protected) from the need to act by, indeed as pointed out, i having rented it in my own name. "for him" or not, pizarro's not held to care. but this was a palliative in place specifically because i expected something in this vein, the fellow is very phenomena-driven, sorta like the brains of frogs only work when there's ligjht bombarding the retinas and thereby powering the rest of th ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:01 mod6: mircea_popescu: how should Pizarro handle this, in your opinion, given the last conversation about this?
mod6: let's take the rockchip discussion into #pizarro
mod6: So, what we're saying then is, if someone rents a box for someone else, and that someone else gets neg-rated, then it's up to the renter to figure it out? What if the renter says, "hey fuck what pizarro and its customers think". Does Pizarro not have a say in it's own customer usage then?
mod6: Pizarro shall follow the rule and remove access to that scammer. Simple as that.
diana_coman: mod6, my reading is that pizarro does business with mp here though, not with douchebag
lobbes: mod6: re pizarro wot policy: so you're saying positive lordly ratings do not cancel out negative lordly ratings? i.e. rule is simply: "any lordly negrate disualifies?" ☟︎
trinque: and douchebag, sounds like you have another lord from whom to ask forgiveness; pizarro account is still in peril
lobbes: re wot: I mean, the serenity of leveraging the wot, imho, is that it is a purely individual-to-individual thing by design. In this case, you have Pizarro (P) who has customer relationships with MP and D. D has been negrated by T on the basis of Tx. MP can either decide 1) Tx means enough to request P get rid of D, in which case P now determines if it values MP or D moar, or 2) MP decides Tx does not mean enough to request P get rid of D.
mod6: Was just trying to avoid (perhaps stupidly) some Pizarro gyrations.
douchebag: I already have a webserver running on my pizarro box. I just don't know how I'm supposed to unpack mpwp
mod6: mircea_popescu: how should Pizarro handle this, in your opinion, given the last conversation about this? ☟︎
mod6: This is not a negotiation. Just asking what the deal is. Cause Pizarro is going to end up removing him from the hardware.
deedbot: Invoiced ben_vulpes 0.6076 << http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-5-18#358430
BingoBoingo: !!invoice ben_vulpes 0.6076 http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-5-18#358430
lobbes: This I am not sure of. My gut says a small percentage of each sale, but I've no idea what constitutes a "standard percentage" here. I am also a) inexperienced in sales, and b) motivated on the basis that the tmsr crisis isn't really over until a profitable Pizarro exists, so I'm pretty open on terms >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814925 ☝︎
lobbes: lol, so he does >> http://personajeshistoricos.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Francisco-Pizarro-13.jpg
lobbes: I slapped together the following if you'd like to use: http://lobbesblog.com/static/pizarro_demo_logo1.png, http://lobbesblog.com/static/pizarro_demo2_logo2_w_sword.png >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815212 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes : maybe odd q, but do we have a pizarro logotype ? i'd like something in the vein of http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/snsa.jpg to put below same on phuctor www
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 20:56 BingoBoingo: mod6: Well pizarro got billed for the dentist. The doctor is out of my pocket. Part of the idea is getting these things off of Pizarro's line and into my own.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> yeah, it's fuckin tricky, though. i'm trying to estimate what could reasonably be packed into uy1 from a shared shell and ftp perspective, but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max that box can carry without overbooking it, and if we can get to that point within a year i'll be pleased as punch, as it'll cover a significant fraction of the whole pizarro operation's << Sweet
ben_vulpes: yeah, it's fuckin tricky, though. i'm trying to estimate what could reasonably be packed into uy1 from a shared shell and ftp perspective, but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max that box can carry without overbooking it, and if we can get to that point within a year i'll be pleased as punch, as it'll cover a significant fraction of the whole pizarro operation's
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:23 BingoBoingo: <mod6> And the per-diem money, if we can get it to "reasonable bump" per month, is a done-deal in my opinion. << I am willing to table the future incentive so you can come up with something more favorable to Pizarro than 1 integer BTC.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> And the per-diem money, if we can get it to "reasonable bump" per month, is a done-deal in my opinion. << I am willing to table the future incentive so you can come up with something more favorable to Pizarro than 1 integer BTC.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: elaborate re what's wrong with normal btc ( you can sell it now, or later, or convert to whatever suits you ) << Normal BTC is fine for this, but for pizarro's sake I am denominating this in Dosiedoes
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 20:40 BingoBoingo: mod6: The core components I am looking for are 1) A lump sum now or in the near future so that when http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814853 comes I am not caught horribly undercapitalized. 2) an increase in the daily per diem to an amount that includes breathing room 3) Something sort of future award contingent on staying here. And apartment was not figured into that because it is unclear if Pizarro wants to get an apartment or if