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BingoBoingo: mod6: Well
pizarro got billed for the dentist. The doctor is out of my pocket. Part of the idea is getting these things off of
Pizarro's line and into my own.
☟︎ BingoBoingo:
Pizarro wants to get BingoBoingo an apartment.
BingoBoingo: mod6: The core components I am looking for are 1) A lump sum now or in the near future so that when
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814853 comes I am not caught horribly undercapitalized. 2) an increase in the daily per diem to an amount that includes breathing room 3) Something sort of future award contingent on staying here. And apartment was not figured into that because it is unclear if
Pizarro wants to get an apartment or if
☝︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: hostingdiscussion.com at least has a user-enumerable db, but i don't know if an automated approach would get
pizarro blacklisted, or even if we care, right? can make another account and pick up where left off.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, why do you suspect
pizarro can pay something like that ? << The idea is that there is a path for
pizarro to get revenue. If
pizarro can´t afford something closer to that than the current arrangement, I suspect they can't afford to keep someone in Uruguay.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, why do you suspect
pizarro can pay something like that ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure, but to approach them on behalf of
Pizarro,
Pizarro's gotta have something for me to ask of them.
BingoBoingo: If you are looking for a temporary liquidity source though, have you considered pete_dushenski? He might be interested in the opportunity to buy BTC from
Pizarro.
BingoBoingo: put some of my idle time into compiling reports on
Pizarro's options for accomplishing certain goals (getting a UY corp, etc) I can do that. I need clarity of instructions.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 06:25 mircea_popescu: mod6, anyway, to answer some angle of the question asked, rather than "the question read between the lines" --
pizarro wirh 8 something btc in cash whatever it is does not specifically require more cash to confront a 1.x expenditure and some months of .5 each overhead or w/e it is. the fact that you two are committed to further putting money in as need may be is utterly sufficient, as far as i can discern. ymmv, but you asked.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 05:56 mircea_popescu: now currently you're engaging in a boatload of pussyfooting around the fact that
pizarro doesn't need more capital as it is ; and the only conceivable function more capital could possibly serve as things stand is to give you some other excuse to not get sales going.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 05:51 ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, BingoBoingo asked for documentation on the UY1 shared hosting setup, and automation for same so i put this together:
http://pizarroisp.net/newaccounts.txt asciilifeform mod6 pls to eyeball
mircea_popescu: mod6, anyway, to answer some angle of the question asked, rather than "the question read between the lines" --
pizarro wirh 8 something btc in cash whatever it is does not specifically require more cash to confront a 1.x expenditure and some months of .5 each overhead or w/e it is. the fact that you two are committed to further putting money in as need may be is utterly sufficient, as far as i can discern. ymmv, but you asked.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: now currently you're engaging in a boatload of pussyfooting around the fact that
pizarro doesn't need more capital as it is ; and the only conceivable function more capital could possibly serve as things stand is to give you some other excuse to not get sales going.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 16:35 mircea_popescu: so agree that you'll each add another 5btc as circumstances merit ; then
pizarro has all the backing it needs and a clear path to success. and if the circumstances "merit" in the sense that it needs rescuing rather than it's expanding, you can fire the management and get someone else or w/e.
mircea_popescu: and yes,
pizarro can issue bonds in general. who buys them depends on who
pizarro wants to sell them to.
mod6: This is something that would be figured out at some later date (the conversion rate). However, can
Pizarro issue bonds just to me? Or does there need to be a tranche of them offered otherwise?
mircea_popescu: so agree that you'll each add another 5btc as circumstances merit ; then
pizarro has all the backing it needs and a clear path to success. and if the circumstances "merit" in the sense that it needs rescuing rather than it's expanding, you can fire the management and get someone else or w/e.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the fact that
pizarro is actually well supported is the principal part, for its commercial credit. otherwise, it can't well spend even the 10 it has so far, 1.5 or so go to the rockchips, then it's all "get sales going".
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6, you see holes in ye logic ? << Sounds good. I think that s.nsa building the chassis then we do it as stated is fine. (unless I misunderstand).
Pizarro will pay for these in cash. I agree too on staying away from the equity buys as well.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, an' ftr, if your concern is that you're underweight
pizarro, you can just as well do a second round. see if mod6 wants to either a) give it more btc or else b) move into a minority position.
pizarro would certainly benefit from a larger piggy giving it more solidity etc, so you can do another 10-20 round either by yourself if mod6 is agreeable or else match together or any which old way. this isn't an u
mircea_popescu: or else universe 2, whereby chassis for
pizarro is produced by you as free agent. in this world we have to now explain what nsa actually is, which becomes a rather difficult task, and
pizarro will have to sell its bonds on market, to whatever discount.
mircea_popescu: practically the situation here is this : we can either live in universe 1, whereby chassis for
pizarro is produced by you for nsa, and sold by nsa to
pizarro. in this world nsa stays what it always was, as above, and
pizarro can (at practically your option, as i can go either way) pay with undiscounted bonds for cash-equivalent mateirals ;
mircea_popescu: well how much
pizarro has in the way of cash isn't changed by ooooh i see the problem, you hafta recirculate this is it ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but what's the significant problem with nsa selling
pizarro custom built chassisen ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 05:03 mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform is nsa fabricating chassisen for
pizarro ? or is asciilifeform of his own independent self ?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-16 02:22 lobbes: but yeah, I'm almost always interested if
pizarro needs some lulazon materials ordered
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform is nsa fabricating chassisen for
pizarro ? or is asciilifeform of his own independent self ?
☟︎ ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: for the love of all that is holy i hope you mean "
pizarro bought all teh extant fg" and not "all the fg that will ever be already are"
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-16 02:22 lobbes: but yeah, I'm almost always interested if
pizarro needs some lulazon materials ordered
trinque is willing to buy btc via
pizarro again, as he has already.
lobbes: but yeah, I'm almost always interested if
pizarro needs some lulazon materials ordered
lobbes: mircea_popescu, well, optimally I'd be buying a little btc every certain frequency. Just converted some fiat a month or so ago though buying for
pizarro mircea_popescu: you think amazon doesn't have exactly the same problems as
pizarro ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, might be an idea to put the fellow on the
pizarro warrants list, considering impact.
mircea_popescu: mod6, one way of looking at it is, "
pizarro finds l1's in exile". you know ? "<h1>
Pizarro</h1><h3>Welcome Home.</h3>"
mod6: I'm just trying to figure out if
Pizarro has enough cash to get 48 of these down there.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how this works, but
pizarro seems to be getting ever less for ever more money.
mircea_popescu: the problem as far as i discern it is, "not only there's no conversation going, but the mutism threatens to entrench itself as a 'way to be', and it's not sustainable". when's the last time
pizarro talked to anyone ? gotta talk to people, somehow, somewhere. silence is a first approximation of death.
mod6: I believe this is probably a good way to get
Pizarro into better financial shape, but it's hard for me to imagine how this works.
mod6: And I guess, it is not up to me how Mr. Vulpes wants to track these things for
Pizarro, however, if I'm asked to make decisions, I EXPECT that these things are clear, in plain language.
ben_vulpes: i'm going to do it in postgres; should be a lot easier to get php to do both the mysql for the
pizarro mpwp and the postgres for deedbot than to port deedbot to mysql
ben_vulpes: mk, makin some progress on the
pizarro accounting/assettracking db
mod6: not even seems like, did report errors. see #
pizarro.
mod6: (all the details are in #
pizarro)
ben_vulpes: i crunched some numbers, and i think it's going to cost around 3 btc to put the production rockchip plant together and get it down south, all based on 4 2U's with 24 rockchippen each, transpo of ~2.5kusd and per-chassis fab costs of ~800usd. i think with the outrageous success of the rockchip pilot plant
pizarro's in a *great* spot to refinance per mircea_popescu's suggestion, to provide for the production
mod6: asciilifeform: I did bring back tb0t here. I think I just forgot to restart it after some planned downtime on my host. Anyway, if we wanted to use it for
Pizarro, I'm open to that but it may need some alterations.
ben_vulpes: user decrypts, leaks, their problem. set a session key, broadcast data unencrypted, leak is
pizarro's fault
ben_vulpes: but, and many details not designed at this rate since you press me, something along the lines of
pizarro/$fp/ renders an encrypted account status including support tickets
ben_vulpes: i've been thinking about a
pizarro wot identity, yes
BingoBoingo: !Q later tell pete_dushenski I forgot to ask... Did you want to rack a time standard of some sort with
Pizarro? A lot are already 19in 1U rackmount. Can plug it into a rockchip.
mod6: Who wants to rent the last Rockchip available rockchip @
Pizarro? Let us know! First come, first serve.
BingoBoingo: But yeah, in the
Pizarro rack would be insanity. For miners in Uruguay to work it would be necessary to take the dam at Salto and mine with the power that would have gone to the Argentine side.
lobbes: Tickerbot will also live there, once it is built. But it is great. I was up and running in no time! I dare anyone to find individualized customer on the level of
Pizarro. Try it yourself and you will see immediately what I mean. They offer month-to-month if you just want to try, with discounts for quarterly payments once you feel comfortable << see? sales pitch
mircea_popescu: nevertheless,
pizarro absolutely needs a star salesman.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, honestly i'd start planning for the next trip. understand the simple fact of the matter : if you manage to get
pizarro 300 rockchips racked, you've produced at least a coupla bitcoin's value for it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it would not be inconceivable either
pizarro or nsa buys some real estate in that town, i guess.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 18:04 BingoBoingo:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809228 << Water heater, all of the furnishings, several kinds of deposits. From there a flat incurs utility bills and "gastos communes" monthly. Then there is the matter of whether it is
Pizarro's apartment of Bingo's apartment. I am also a bit apprehensive about personally signing yet another 24 month contract totaling in the 5 figure USD range while so much of
Pizarro is still being done on a month
mod6: And by all means, use whatever language in #trilema; I'm referring to when discussing
pizarro proposals with me in particular. Too many mental gymnastics otherwise.
BingoBoingo:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809228 << Water heater, all of the furnishings, several kinds of deposits. From there a flat incurs utility bills and "gastos communes" monthly. Then there is the matter of whether it is
Pizarro's apartment of Bingo's apartment. I am also a bit apprehensive about personally signing yet another 24 month contract totaling in the 5 figure USD range while so much of
Pizarro is still being done on a month
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:47 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: i dun object;
pizarro needs a better foundation than a writhing pile of chinches. i'd like to get a flat down there; this can consolidate the housing and desk expenses and provide i expect much needed moral uplift.
ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: i dun object;
pizarro needs a better foundation than a writhing pile of chinches. i'd like to get a flat down there; this can consolidate the housing and desk expenses and provide i expect much needed moral uplift.
☟︎ mod6: And aside from that, I'm not opposed outright to this, but before we start handing out more money, I'd like to see where
Pizarro stands as far as how much further we need to go to break-even, etc.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: it is greatly appreciated. And there's still a lot of adult business/figuring out exactly what
pizarro is going on, which is why I have been letting it slide. But being several months into this venture the silence on this issue from the rest of the board is a sore spot, I have no idea if it is a thing they are even considering.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-24 15:20 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, incidentally, do you see it as a mid term you use
pizarro as your springboard to move in uy, releasing BingoBoingo into my hand for further adventures ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, consider though -- we actually have unmatched synergy here too. if you turn usg moolah here and then lose it to pay for eg
pizarro rack, you got an engine!
mircea_popescu: tell you what : do trinque's thing ; then do the ssh/ssl thing ; then we can talk about you running this thing exactly like
pizarro is run, why the hell not.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 23:07 asciilifeform has been racking brain to think of 'how to make
pizarro hot in heathendom', so far no earthshaking breakthrough