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a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 17:23 asciilifeform: on other hand, a person who agrees that you is you after being shown some usg paper, is agent of usg.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> on other hand, a person who agrees that you is you after being shown some usg paper, is agent of usg. << This works so long as you shuffle brown paper bags and no one knows about the bags without having more investment in future bags than the present bag
asciilifeform: if doing business with those, can do it right here in usgistan, no need for airplane, bedbugs, neh
asciilifeform: on other hand, a person who agrees that you is you after being shown some usg paper, is agent of usg. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at one point this was actual usg propaganda slogan ( during greatdepression )
mircea_popescu: 0 value in building "secure" isp on alt-flavour of usgtronic pressed shitboard.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1770015 << somewhat worrisome, BingoBoingo ~might~ have stepped on the 'who is principal man of this corp? oh hey, it's a usg slave, nao we, quisling orcs, gotta report him' mine ☝︎
mircea_popescu: to reiterate -- whole point of the entire exercise is to publicly, paifully BREAK the usg system, and to humiliate the united states government in the process.
mircea_popescu: funny how they never seem to remember who is "the government" whenever ~they~ go around messing with it. how about bad guys === usg don't go around using mnuchin as a hand puppet to finance their bad deeds ?
ben_vulpes: usg.hobbyking
asciilifeform: address all complaints to usg dept of state , who sends the model airplane kits to the orcs.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 18:48 mircea_popescu: consequently taking something uttered by usg asset as words rather than "o look what kitten did with its own faeces!" is a little weird.
mircea_popescu: it was god awful, that dumb bitch is like "threatening vagrants" and going about that huge farm house as if mommy-usg is there to protect "her freedom of choice"
asciilifeform: qc i suspect will be to current-day usg as immortality pill was to chinese emperor qin shihuangdi
mircea_popescu: consequently taking something uttered by usg asset as words rather than "o look what kitten did with its own faeces!" is a little weird. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: myeah. quite, the best approximation of "what's the usg all about ?" well... it sells to idiots the notion they're successful scammers.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 17:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767519 <<< o look, when the saudis "bought" that piece of shit it ... wasn't "corruption" and the saudi state very much does not need to take measure to eliminate the "corruption" of giving usg money. it's only when non-usg gets dough that the idiot neets need to stand up and herpderp on social media about "corruption" amirite ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-10#1768306 << it was a kind of tor, i.e. usg-engineered transparent 'tool for opposition' . d00d presumably was showing symptoms of blowing the idiocy up, got nailgunned. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Anyways latest rumor taking the alt-alt by storm is USG's obvious preparation for fake alien invasion.
mircea_popescu: "usg made the us army into what it is today" "you mean a useless piece of shit, janissary corps 2.0 ?" "yeah!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's a good thing the usg "coallition" totally won the isis war.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767519 <<< o look, when the saudis "bought" that piece of shit it ... wasn't "corruption" and the saudi state very much does not need to take measure to eliminate the "corruption" of giving usg money. it's only when non-usg gets dough that the idiot neets need to stand up and herpderp on social media about "corruption" amirite ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-08#1767269 << i would say you're exactly correct. "shooting at usg men is always the right move ; if you do it you'll win ; do not think of this". ☝︎
mircea_popescu: oh, obviously : there's no possiblity of name conflicts, either. the fact that my key defines "usg" as x and trump's key defines "usg" as y allows us both to live our respective delusions happily.
mircea_popescu: the british don't really want to talk about the great potato famine ; and the usg likes to pretend the irish that ran off to new york didn't go through the exact same wringer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is entirely no difference between usg pantsuit cca 2015 and germany nazi cca 1933.
asciilifeform: then item went to shit, for general usgification 1990s reasons
asciilifeform: gatt started out presiding over a usg laboratory where spacecraft ran lisps, worked properly, etc.
mircea_popescu: substitute whatever, prb, usg.legalsystem, what have you.
asciilifeform: ( spoiler : best part is re how evidence remains seekrit, plus the usual claptran in re how e.g. usg not obligated to do anything in return for the confession )
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, what else is there ? usg wrote its fanfic itself too.
mircea_popescu: well, basically without that you end up with the femstate, as the next stop on the stupid tree. "can expropriate anything for public interest but cunt" results in the bizarro alt-world in usgstan.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-25 18:07 mircea_popescu: so, to get on the same page here, the general strategy is, 1. construct undisruptable comms ; 2. disrupt usg&friends comms ; 3. disrupt usg&friends physical presence.
mircea_popescu: ie, romans were ~trying~ to build the exact system roosevelt built! but lacking in comms and banking, they didn't manage. usg -- did manage, what comes now down the road is...
mircea_popescu: ReadErr the funniest bit, to me, is that this lets-call-it-challenge to empire comes from the exact area fallout predicted, "drugs and slavetrade" (to not say i predicted, mexican cartels finally strong enough to take usg apart). the reason this is funny is because the collapsing roman empire was challenged over -- "the right to counterfit"!
mircea_popescu: in this competition, inept foreigners (as in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-02#1745682 ) credit a certain item, which happens to be the fed trade account ; usg controls that -- the stated of * does not. that is the whole and complete story -- whatever usg says state, corporation, individual does. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-03 16:03 asciilifeform: in other lulz, intel ceo sells 100% of the stock his contract permitted him to sell ( and even filed the mandatory usg report to hitler, hence how it came out )
danielpbarron: ReadErr, i don't know that we want to "overthrow" the usg. more like, do our own thing in opposition to them, and eventually hang the bureaucrats
BingoBoingo: Perhaps there are exceptions, but... No reason to let USG get free intel
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (recall that case of usg "trained" special op dead in mortar "accident" ?) << There was one of those from the home town. 1 week till his USMC contract expired, mortar exploded in Arizona desert during training exercise
mircea_popescu: (recall that case of usg "trained" special op dead in mortar "accident" ?)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no dood, the usg can turn it off! unlike you know, interwebs.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, intel ceo sells 100% of the stock his contract permitted him to sell ( and even filed the mandatory usg report to hitler, hence how it came out ) ☟︎☟︎
danielpbarron: the log is hosted in at least 3 places, but decentralized is a sort of USG buzzword bullshit
asciilifeform: and massive gravy for e.g. usg hardware suppliers
mircea_popescu: it goes directly to the ugly truth at the bottom of the alt-usg (referenced above as 'cryptographic komyoonity' but rms's goons too [recently i've been seeing pompous "explanations" as to how linux is not a thing, it's just gnu os that matters btw]) : pure socialism.
mircea_popescu: the "society" as a usg captive item, that thing ? the ghetto jewry of 2017, about to make pretty ash piles by 2040 ?
mircea_popescu: god knows nobody has YET written a piece for the usg faux news outlets that survived braindamaging at time of packaging (and some truly eminent examples documented by various parties)
mircea_popescu: it's what we expect to see, isn't it ? usg is specifically the empire of "there's a difference between what is and what you want to see, and we live out of selling that"
asciilifeform: if it's a usg.op, it's to prop up the rest of the forbes liquishit with this eminently respectable piece.
mircea_popescu waves at the moscow usg residentura.
mircea_popescu: "the computing centers, tired of routine, seized the novelty" holy crap. moscow station last functional usg item, defo.
mircea_popescu: putting the usd and euro "values" as if they existed or mattered up top is one thing. but this, thbis is liek moar skill and ability than seen from usg in 20 years.
asciilifeform: sumbody oughta set up a parallel usg out of crackheads in bmore
BingoBoingo: Eh, give it 10 years and everything Republican will be inconel while the last USG trinkets come in Chinese potmetal
asciilifeform: the usg polizei prioritize the voice pirates, because they compete directly with the usg 'music' monopoly
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758839 << asciilifeform did a bit of survey of the sw spectrum ( where he lives , but also elsewhere, via helpful public toilet ip-streamed receivers. ) plenty of digital ???? in'ere. incl. in places where none 'ought', Officially, to be. but 1) could just as easily be usg 2) it's all, definitionally, carriered signal, or asciilifeform would never have learned of it ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hanbot no but see, THIS is what a classical education fucking is. not retarded fry making hobbit jokes because hey, the history according to fry started when he first got a bit of usg.corp fried chicken.
BingoBoingo: The current president issued a compasionate pardon allowing former president to die in a hospital rather than prison. The pantsuit fake news is alleging riots. Possibility of USG.blue color shennanigans.
l0de: at the point where shortwave communications pose an existential threat to usg
mircea_popescu: in point of fact the usg is today much less powerful or capable than ye olde ck-kpss.
mircea_popescu: the point doesn't JUST go re nukes per se ; this whole "usg could do THE BIG THING" is entirely pantsuit wank.,
l0de: If shortwave was the problem, the USG could render the entire thing unusable with relatively trivial effort
mircea_popescu: so, to get on the same page here, the general strategy is, 1. construct undisruptable comms ; 2. disrupt usg&friends comms ; 3. disrupt usg&friends physical presence. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you (or anybody) has a contact for this gregory pery tard (i dun imagine totallynotrobots@protonmail.com actually works ?), maybe point out to him that http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758148 and it's really ridoinculous to be wasting his weeks to freely support the usg pile of evil ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: the 3 or 4 people on the planet who can actually SELL 0days , knowing they'll be paid 1) know who they are 2) wouldn't even cough and spit for a mere 500 , esp if paid in taxolade 3) don't deal with 'uber' et al, or any 'responsible-disclosure'-pushing usg.tentacle , not for promises of three kingdoms and five princesses
mircea_popescu: well, in typical manner of usgtronic cargocultism, they pretend to themselves as a captive audience that they've embraced&extended successfully.
asciilifeform: otherwise you will have no end of folx begging for 'just one' exception , and in the end devolve to socially-engineerable usgism
mircea_popescu: let me guess, your not following usg.bitcoin "official" trunk makes charlie munger's wishful thinking that harder to "come true" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform worst comes to worst, suddenly conde nast or w/e usg.microsoft in the space suddenly decides it always wanted to spend some paper millions.
mircea_popescu: weevlos suppose i pay you 12`795 in cash to a) ditch the "domain name" and use IP permanently ; replace whatever ads you have with trilema links and never EVER link anything from the usg empire again.
mircea_popescu: but in the usg sadlands... well... http://trilema.com/2011/are-you-a-muslim/#selection-115.0-115.526
asciilifeform: iirc the coinola stolen by usg from btce et al, was scheduled for waterfall , so possibly it, nao.
mircea_popescu: if it weren't for usg spending billions of imaginary dollars for "electric cars"...
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 02:55 asciilifeform: hey bureaucrat sees ~everythign~ as usg org chart, climbable, naturally has steps! itmust!!
mircea_popescu: that's the problem -- once the fountain of conceptual usg drunk from, weaning is VERY hard.
danielpbarron: idk, l0de picked my brain on how we're taking down the USG and i guess he didn't like my answer, but i told him i'd send him some bitcoin with the bot if he gets his key regged. he said he's never heard of GPG..
asciilifeform: rather than waiting for 10,000km of usg.cisco and usg.fiber relays to churn.
mircea_popescu: women as in usg."women" and capitalism as in usg."capitalism" and "law" and so on forever.
mircea_popescu: how can non-usg node correctly identify C' as retcon ?
mircea_popescu: this'd be a special alternate because we're very unhappy with the fact that a) "everonye" (=usg) uses m-r and b) evidently lies about the strength assumptions.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 02:55 asciilifeform: hey bureaucrat sees ~everythign~ as usg org chart, climbable, naturally has steps! itmust!!
asciilifeform: hey bureaucrat sees ~everythign~ as usg org chart, climbable, naturally has steps! itmust!! ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ilkka kokkarinen ( http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ilkka.txt ! ) , censored and defrocked-for-failing-to-usgkowtow comp sci professor , described this at some point
asciilifeform: re 'unknown', i suspect that the stink of the landfill of usgism it lay buried in, is not entirely irrelevant
asciilifeform: in other noose, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1913&cpage=1#comment-18418 << congrats to PeterL, the first (self-proclaimed, but there ain't gonna be any other kind, i dun run a usg-style school, 'diploma' is a matter of yer own conscience) ffa ch1 graduate .
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-15#1752041 <<< bwahahaha. still, of course, no mention of "trilema > 9000x whole usg disinfo establishment". ☝︎
asciilifeform: in contrast with, e.g., a boeck : who is 'technically' flavoured ( i.e. mouthpiece for dropping vulns usg wants 'burned' )
asciilifeform: shill for keybase, red-, black-, and possibly other 'coloured' -phones, and several other varieties of usgolade which escape my memory
asciilifeform: the 1 likely item is that 1) exists 2) poor quasiliterate orc under usg magnifying glass from before the 'crime' was conceived , as in the new york deathray (tm)(r) plot.
asciilifeform: lulzy how no mention of why usg was able to decrypt the privs
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally, in re milk thread ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728908 and elsewhere ) -- i found out that there is apparently nao an Official loophole -- while it lasts -- in usgistan : raw milk sold 'for cats' , for piles of money , wink, nudge, posh clientelle fills up thermoses ☝︎
mircea_popescu: only way is to have a large population that can eat it, somehow. though iirc usg was pretty shitty about preventing hunter sales.
mircea_popescu: sparked off accidentally with actual gold, then supported pre and post ww2 by the choice of film industry to move away from the mob rackets (and they succeeded, when the mob caught on and tried to invade the movie folk got the usg to tear it a new hole) and finally post 1960 by the ic folk.
asciilifeform: fwiw ( and supposing the item is true as written ) i dun get why usg would say no to an idjit willing to pay $mil to move to usgistan
asciilifeform: re subj of link, seems like uniquely poor idea from opsec pov , for some reason usg likes to search arse ~first~ , sometimes even they leave the rest of the 'patient' alone. as with the famous fella pictured in old thread, who ate a pistol inside a police station, while already booked, on camera
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 23:35 mircea_popescu: so to get back to mr crisan quoted above : the reason he isn't sitting atop a computer/car/hairblower/starbucks coffee cup is that he doesn't yet understand HOW such item would forward / is requisite for his notion of "a republic" == usgstan. because that is ABSOLUTELY ALL he is interested in, and will give no half a spare cycle to any other consideration, period and fuck you.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 16:11 asciilifeform: meanwhile, https://archive.is/uL4b5 << usg burns yet another of $infinity ssl decrypt methods, to push 'Disable RSA encryption!'
asciilifeform: one could easily fill a thick book with these. ( in 1970s someone ~did~, but usg unhappened it and composed 'anarchist cookbook' full of items optimized to kill user )
mircea_popescu: but i am convinced that strictly, very and absolutely strictly the only reason why mr adrian crisan is spending his afternoon writing up that and then xeroxing it in preference of say "editing wikipedia" or "working for google" as a "moderator" is that he does not perceive how the later would deliver him more usg empire per unit effort than the former.