assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1255344 @ 0.00076434 = 959.5096 BTC [-] {96}
assbot: Logged on 28-10-2014 23:54:38; petahash: link?
kakobrekla: >We're sorry for the confusion, it does appear that this was an inbound attack and we've removed the block on your server. I've also given you a $10 credit as an apology for the inconvenience.
assbot: Qntra.net | Bitcoin News, Views & Commentary
assbot: Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform artifexd kakobrekla srsly can't see it still ?!
gribble: log.bitcoin-assets.com is up
mircea_popescu: so does the internets work or doesn't it ?! i'm confused.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the weird thing is i saw the log syncing throughout.
kakobrekla: anyway i refused to dance bananas and got paid 10 bux
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22461 @ 0.00079407 = 17.8356 BTC [+]
mod6: <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1255344 @ 0.00076434 = 959.5096 BTC [-] {96} << ???
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18359 @ 0.00079101 = 14.5222 BTC [-] {2}
Pierre_Rochard: preaching to the choir cazalla, I’d just like to see the damage to their nick if they ever registered in wot
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> duh. so assbot can see it. < assbot is looking directly in db, not parsing site
cazalla: Pierre_Rochard, they won't ever register and yet someone like kyle torpey is now preaching bitcoin + pgp but isn't even in the wot to begin with
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ktorp has been recorded.
assbot: Twitch is trying to change its image by banning sexy streamers
cazalla: well i guess i take that back lol
Pierre_Rochard: that said, focusing on those on the fence about registering may be a better approach than chastising those who are very reluctant (as they would get a negative rating right off the bat)
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded.
xiando: mircea_popescu: I have never heard that tale before so I do not know, so sorry. Interesting tale, though.
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 469547.73 Est. Next Diff: 337540.40 in 923 blocks (#48384) Est. % Change: -28.11
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 487.45 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s
atcbot: [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 55 Ask: 150 Last Price: 46 30d-Vol: 2.99M 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 1 30d-VWAP: 61
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla> <mircea_popescu> duh. so assbot can see it. < assbot is looking directly in db, not parsing site << when spitting out page titles ?!
mircea_popescu: <Pierre_Rochard> that said, focusing on those on the fence about registering may be a better approach than chastising those who are very reluctant (as they would get a negative rating right off the bat) << i doubt anyone'd care enough to neg them, unless they did stupid shit
Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: you would not neg andreas, if he negged you for ‘trolling’ ?
BingoBoingo: <Pierre_Rochard> mircea_popescu: you would not neg andreas, if he negged you for ‘trolling’ ? << Andreas has other sins
mircea_popescu: for one thing, he can't even rate before he gets rated, so it's moot
Pierre_Rochard: BingoBoingo: exactly. Joining WoT would bring the skeletons out. Best for him to try to discredit it from afar
mircea_popescu: seems a bizarre approach anyway, join wot, start negrating people. how far is that gonna go lol,
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, why would anyone imagine negratings from nobody do anything
xiando: I am just guessing here, but if I rate mircea_popescu 10 bought what SEC doesn't like from him ten times and SEC sends out nastly letters like they did the last few days
xiando: then I could negrate mircea_popescu and hope he gets upset and negrates me?
xiando: mircea_popescu: would negrating be a way to get good ratings with evidence away?
bounce: what are you on about?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, best i can discern some major routing thing blew at some point somewhere, lost some traffic.
mircea_popescu: xiando this somehow doesn't make sense. what do you mean "evidence away"?
xiando: seems a bizarre approach anyway, join wot, start negrating people. <- just guessing why someone would do that but I may be way off
xiando: but if it is a freshly created wot account then I am probably way wrong
mircea_popescu: xiando it's like, new kid in school, starts telling all the girls they're ugly,
bounce: such a person would get a bunch of negrates and drop below the threshold for giving ratings.
bounce wonders if unrating is affected by that
nubbins`: punkman i grabbed the file via curl instead of copypasta, all checks out
nubbins`: had to slightly modify regex for grabbing raw deed
mircea_popescu: Greetings. Sir or Madam. I am Mrs Aminatu Mariam, from South Sudan. I want to invest in your country Azibaijan and settle down there with my
mircea_popescu: family. I want to know more about your country if possible. << anyone looking for a south sudanese chick ?
BingoBoingo: Fuck, why does my neigborhood choose World Series time to become RF noisy.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Watching the game on broadcast TV.
bounce: because watching sports is your neighbourhood's preferred way to waste time and it obviously needs wireless to (re)transmit the signals
BingoBoingo: Noise somewhere around is fucking up the reception.
bounce: so? think wifi for streaming or even video repeaters using the same ISM band
assbot: Bitcoin Options Are Back At IG Markets | Qntra.net
jurov: only gpg signed message checking
jurov: yes. if you're in wot, you don't even need to register
jurov: only for receiving
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 08da464bf2037d36f7e4ac68f5fa9bc1dfc9c4cc707d446caaf5b51dcd6b87e4
bounce: in that case, might be, oh, "gigabit" powerline things. the faster they go, the higher up in the spectrum their noise goes
jurov: "Invalid signature." grrr
BingoBoingo: bounce: Whatever it is if it doesn't stop by the 6th I might have to find it.
jurov: indeed the signature does not verify
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30853 @ 0.00079397 = 24.4964 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: i think i'm in a hurricane over here. rain is more like a solid curtain than anything.
jurov: it won't verify even with \n only
jurov: it's the same as in the tarball?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3475 @ 0.00079407 = 2.7594 BTC [+]
nubbins`: also if anyone is curious, the following links may be of some use as a quick and dirty deed verification system:
assbot: [Bash] deed.sh - Pastebin.com
assbot: [JavaScript] processdeed.js - Pastebin.com
nubbins`: ^ node.js and a couple libs required
rithm: i'm working on my own personal webtorrent thingy right now
jurov: aab1f8ea8c7f131ff69dfa3b9437ba35531018be760132dd6373f41a591f6382 bitcoin-bitcoin-v0.5.3-0-gd05c03a.tar.gz << asciilifeform this line got split in the email
nubbins`: rithm i only started playing with node last week
jurov: yes passes (with 2 spaces inbetween)
jurov: CORRECT SOURCE AND RESUBNIT
jurov: another discard.. in your outbox the line is not split?
mircea_popescu: don't hate it just because it uses STANDARD CLRLBLABLA^H^H^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@
assbot: Joker.org | .torrent -> streamable video
rithm: i assume it's overloaded by now
nubbins`: ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR
rithm: maybe it still works shrug
jurov: in kmail there's option "wordwrap at column:", guess it can be set in most editors
jurov: try leaving the body empty and put the mesg as first attachemnt
bounce: well, no, there wasn't. forget the cr and the thing'd just sit there and beep. forget the lf and you'd eventually cut the paper.
BingoBoingo: So rf environment here calmed its bitch down
mircea_popescu: bounce so you are saying we're stuck computing on annimated typewriters because reasons ?
jurov: nope, it did base64 encode it and put it as second attachment after empty text/plain part
bounce: we more or less are, yes. except that those paper-driven things actually did stuff with the control codes and could produce accents in just 7 bits
jurov: guess it has to loop over all parts.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00078993 = 21.3281 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: one needs email client that allows to disable linewrap and richtext
mircea_popescu: ... and thisis how jurov ended up rewriting the lighbulb.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28850 @ 0.0007899 = 22.7886 BTC [-]
jurov: when i bruteforce scan all mime parts this one would pass
bounce: 7bit ascii, line lengths within 80 cols or so. otherwise you end up with encodings and wraps and whatnots.
jurov: it knows how to decode base64 that's not a problem
mircea_popescu: so then, emails can only be sent to list as base64'd signed matter.
bounce: properly decode the mime encoding crapola? quoted-printable and all that.
jurov: just i thought i don't need to scan all the (nested!) mime parts
bounce: haha. of course you have to do that.
jurov: srs, i now wonder what the dude that made the patch and supposedly maintains it, what he uses it for?
decimation: asciilifeform: must maintain compatibility to 1974!
bounce: you thought you could get off easy? not so fast. this is mime.
jurov: it did not support mime before at all
bounce: that it is. but moreover email isn't bitwise consistent, which any cryptographic hash function requires
mircea_popescu: and all this bulcrap so some idiot somewhere can send... what was it even ? html emails ?
decimation: as I pointed out last night, 7-bit ascii has perfectly good SOM/EOM chars
jurov: stan can't you just paste it to mailx for now?
bounce: mime aspires to be clothing worthy of an emperor.
decimation: so really it's not even ascii, it's tard-ascii which is a much less useful subset of ascii
nubbins`: ^ i want my coffee to cost 3470
bounce: oh sod off. what's with the spamming of that stupid picture?
nubbins`: bounce you have inline images turned on? :0
decimation: " A Wouff Hong is a fictional tool used to "punish" Amateur Radio operators, who demonstrate poor operating practices."
decimation: fun fact: usg banned ham radio during WWII
decimation: sure, so if we have another war are they gonna ban the internet?
decimation: asciilifeform: reminds me of the first Stierlitz episode where he receives the enciphered message on shortwave
assbot: Numbers stations home page
assbot: Verizon-bankrolled news site bans stories on US spying and net neutrality | Ars Technica
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "because user can't modify hardware as easily" ?
decimation: well obviously joe sixpack is going to design and reduce his own vhdl
mircea_popescu: the current problem of teh nsa is that future roi on baby exploits is dubious at best.
decimation: what I find amusing watching snowden is that he clearly sees that unelected bureaucrats have 'stolen' power. Yet, he thinks that 'democracy' will actually reign sovereign!
decimation: like, the constitution wasn't powerful enough to constrain bureaucrats, so maybe a constitutional remedy will fix it?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform doesn't he show up to conferences and shit ?
assbot: Lawrence Lessig interviews Edward Snowden | Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics
decimation: it's obvious he will be used as a figurehead that will represent yet another cause that deserves a usg teat
jurov: asciilifeform: retry
BingoBoingo: Reason #8 to follow sports, Provides context for evaluating other pursuits one follows for the sport of it.
BingoBoingo searches for conspiracies positing Matheny responsible for killing Taveras
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00078988 = 20.5369 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: "Message signed by key which does not match message sender address" ohmy
assbot: Newly Facebook-owned WhatsApp lost roughly $200M in 2 years | Ars Technica
decimation: BingoBoingo: how could it possibly 'gain money?
decimation: like, they start $19 bn in the hole and the have an app?
jurov: btw.. what if someone takes your chicken.asc and uses it to spam the list?
jurov: we'll come to that later
assbot: Feds have identified, searched suspected second intelligence leaker | Ars Technica
decimation: eh, it seems to me that usg has capitulated to reality
decimation: the reality that they can't keep secrets, that is
BingoBoingo: Shhhh.... Poor form to say that when I'm pricing barges
decimation: oh, I can totally see them capitulate if it means they get a nanoslice of power in exchange
assbot: 30x36x3 sectional barge year unknown 3 sections 10x36x3 $40,000 for all 3 sections. | Barges and Work Boats for Sale
jurov: better set up the line wrap
assbot: MIT Bitcoin Project Goes Live | Qntra.net
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00079429 = 14.8532 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: subscriptions now work.. and the above problems are prolly better to sleep on
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> decimation: Merit Washing? << actually 200mn is a gross understatement.
jurov: just wrap the text before signing?
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform can't picture these folks 'capitulating to reality' even after they're hogtied in the drowning barges. <<< this because they understand how "the world" works.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well Whatsapp is a premium value loser for USG because of the large non-USian user population. Maybe ISIS has an account there.
decimation: I'm trying to get an openbsd vm running for 'adult' platform
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i have nfi why the libtards keep going with the "x many people nobody gives a shit about have no access to clean water"
mircea_popescu: it'd go a lot further if it read "three out of four black adults ate on average a pound of shit in 2013"
assbot: How to end Gamergate: A divide-and-conquer plan.
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decimation: in london in the 19th century, most paupers drank straight from the thames
decimation: generally they would let the turds settle to the bottom of a bucket before drinking
nubbins`: the OFFICIAL class action lawsuit
nubbins`: offer expires nov 1, send info today
nubbins`: What information do I need to provide to file a claim?
mircea_popescu: so i'm watching "nudist colon y of the dead". there should be an award for this level of forced humor
nubbins`: etc etc, "Other information that you feel is relevant"
decimation: actually 'clean water' in india is quite dangerous, owing to the deposits of arsenic in the water
mircea_popescu: decimation india actually has much less of a problem than shitafrica.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, because shit is mostly dead red cells
mircea_popescu: (shit cleans arsenic out of water throuigh roughly the same chemistry arsenic poisons live humans)
jurov: red cells go to kidneys
mircea_popescu: jurov nah, some hemoglobin clears through kidneys, but most goes to the colon
decimation: yeah, filtering water through lots of carbon is generally a good idea
mircea_popescu: and incidentally, i live in the world's capital for arsenic poisoning
sxejno: so mircea, arsenic aside, but still on the topic of toxins, have you heard any more from the US SEC or whatever other agencies?
mircea_popescu: no, but in an amusing development every noob in the space has started pretending they got one too.
sxejno: none here, since early 2011
BingoBoingo: I still only have that one front door visit from the feds
sxejno: in the land of the free
sxejno: haha, I could tell you, but you could find out if you know that much.
TheNewDeal: land of the free - is that sub-saharan africa?
sxejno: If you haven't found out in a few minutes I'll tell you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25099 @ 0.00078987 = 19.8249 BTC [-]
assbot: Gawker is toxic to brands who partner with them | adland.tv
assbot: Around 100,000 Hungarians rally for democracy as internet tax hits nerve| Reuters
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm just amazed that in the battle ov Redditors vs. Shitty Journos, both sides are losing so profoundly
assbot: Peter Thiel is totally gay, people
BingoBoingo: Just Amazing to see cast iron implements call each other out on their composition
jurov: not composition, color
sxejno: so did you figure out my languages, mircea?
jurov: "you pot iron!" "you zamak!"
gribble: (google translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.
jurov: αράπης (google said)
mircea_popescu: that means arab. it's how you say "slave" in romanian, incidentally.
mircea_popescu: because all romanians knew of slaves was through the arabic slaves of the medieval turks.
mircea_popescu: guy learned russian phonetically, it sounds totally like ai.
undata: "Like the immigrant Jews who created Hollywood a century ago, a gay investor has no way to fit into the old establishment." << pffffffff
undata: shit, I was scrolled up. That was from the Thiel article
undata: ah, not as scrolled as I thought.
undata: on a restaurant nearby someone spraypainted "gay is race"
mircea_popescu: undata wait, you disagree from experience about the gay fitting, or you're shocked and surprised that thiel may actually take your peculiar payment ?
undata: apparently trying to make the same idiotic point
undata: mircea_popescu: I disgree that it's worth mentioning
undata: mircea_popescu: the writer is trying to cast himself as part of some team which Thiel brings some kind of social progress honor to
undata: the two people have nothing of note in common
nara_narayana: in matters such as this, i couldn't care less where you stick your penis
mircea_popescu: kinda the job of internet nobodies, innit ? "i saw x thing on google trends now i'm going to write about it in a vain but strongly held hope that mayhap the association may benefit me"
mircea_popescu: Lycerion, ce din genuni rasari cu-o-ntreaga lume, nu cere semne si minuni care n-au chip si nume.
assbot: I Can Tolerate Anything Except The Outgroup | Slate Star Codex
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4003 @ 0.00078924 = 3.1593 BTC [-]
assbot: Katusha - Ottoman Military Band and Red Army Choir - YouTube
assbot: Scene from "Casablanca" movie - YouTube
TheNewDeal: thestringpuller : oh isn't that speeshal
assbot: BOOK REVIEW: The Star Diaries by Stanislaw Lem (1971) | Republibot
decimation: asciilifeform: interesting - it seems doctor who ripped this guy off
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how anyone even uses any of the sites in the gawker empire of crap. and incidentally tech crunch or mashable are exacly the same shit : exactly 0 comments, no content, just a bunch of pointless, flashy page elements.
mircea_popescu: i would be very surprised if the "top 10" blogs actually get any reads at all.
mircea_popescu: i mean watsapp lost money ? heh. all these derps only survive exactly on the myspace ticket : old people like ted turner have nfi what's what online,
decimation: if morality is only that which arouses sympathies - an each man has his own unique sentiment - how is moral discussion possible, given no constant set of assumptions to build upon?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: and so they keep pouring money in. << 55 employees and purchased for 19 billion?
decimation: they are very important people you see
mircea_popescu: decimation what constant set of assumption do we have in common ?
thestringpuller: if there were text book example for "The Case of Too Much Money" this would be in that chapter.
mircea_popescu: or for that matter, what constant set of assumptions do physicists have in common ? if discussion relied on constant assumptions, science'd be in principle impossible.
decimation: no, I mean empricism is in principle impossible, not science
assbot: Smuggling Snowden Secrets | Hacker News
mats_cd03: top comment conflates gpg with pgp, ten odd comments in a useless discussion about key exchange and comms over the same channel, five comments by a bunch of fucking dummies talking about key signing parties, and a few pumping keybase
decimation: that which can be synthesized without reference to sensory experience
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00078752 = 10.9859 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00078861 = 15.5356 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00079104 = 18.5103 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16675 @ 0.00079255 = 13.2158 BTC [+]
assbot: Uploading private keys puts users at risk Issue #160 keybase/keybase-issues GitHub
ben_vulpes: " I'd like my secret key on multiple machines, and I don't know how to move it around easily."
ben_vulpes: "Although I agree that it's totally insecure, no matter how you sugar coat it--I really don't think it's a feature that should be removed."
mircea_popescu: he probably doesn't think windows is a feature that should be removed either.
ben_vulpes: if i spin up two bitcoinds and use cli arg '-connect' to point them at each other, can they mine?
bounce: "insecurity is a feature we should not remove"
ben_vulpes: (also i'm assuming that you're not trolling me and saying "yes they'll mine in the sense of hashing loltworotlzlzlzl")
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm more inclined to hack the checkpoints out.
ben_vulpes: but this could be retarded - i don't actually know.
ben_vulpes suspects checkpoints are the dumb thing here
mircea_popescu: and yes, they will mine, on their own chain, obviously.
ben_vulpes: look at that! regtest mode implemented in configuration. no chainparams.cpp necessary.
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.10200000 / 0.10303907 / 0.10909900 (46 shares, 4.73979700 BTC), 7D: 0.09000000 / 0.1126693 / 0.15000000 (1984 shares, 223.53589961 BTC), 30D: 0.09000000 / 0.11913696 / 0.19210002 (5682 shares, 676.93620858 BTC)
decimation: these usg regulatory letters are hilarious
mircea_popescu is nonplussed with the retards squirming around the edges of bitcoin failing to point out that "hey sec, mp's cock isn't going to suck itself, get busy"
decimation: I was reading the fincen letter to bitpay
decimation: as if fincen is ever going to say "sure you can do whatever you want without asking us again"
assbot: How Google Plans to Steal More of Your Traffic
mircea_popescu: this is to me an interesting thing, because it's an exact reprise of the craftsman vs entrepreneur arguments that raged in the early modern period, resulting in the ip laws in the first place.
mircea_popescu: you see, back cca 1800, a guy who figured out how to fix a loom would do anything BUT explain it to anyone
mircea_popescu: because that knowledge meant a livelihood, whereas education meant competition.
mircea_popescu: today, people go "do not put xml schemas on your recipes, because that's only going to help large data crunchers profit - not you"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14870 @ 0.00079506 = 11.8225 BTC [+]
bounce: that makes patent warchests more than a little ironic
bounce: they're the tool of big corporates and patent trolls, exactly the opposite of protecting the small craftsman
mircea_popescu: ah ah. myeah. the problem with "fixes" is that they always degenerate.
mircea_popescu: that's why problems should be approached radically or not at all.
bounce: like radicals don't degenerate
mircea_popescu: what i mean here : anything which is ulterior ontologically to the problem is a fix. anything that is anterior ontologically to the problem and is incompatible with the problem's existence is a radical aproach.
mircea_popescu: so, if a river bothers you, building a dam is a fix. making water a physical impossibility is a (very) radical approach.
mircea_popescu: the fix degenerates (water can say break the dam and flood you, which is worse an outcome). the radical approach can't degenerate, because it has not where to.
decimation: for instance, beheading the king and declaring The People sovereign
bounce: look at any state that rose out of "revolution" only never shed it
mircea_popescu: decimation that's a fix. it fails to make kings impossible, so it degenerates, to a shittier kingdom
mircea_popescu: (necessarily shittier because well, it won't say its name)
decimation: good point. I guess the radical approach would be to murder all humans
mircea_popescu: anyway, this observation is not particularly useful in politics, but it is useful in technology.
decimation: yeah it's impossible to unhuman humanity, but it's quite possible to unintel computers
undata: mircea_popescu: I've said before in regards to software architecture that inherent is better than explicit (in response to the python thing). Yours is much better said.
undata: the python thing being implicit vs explicit
decimation: does that include all of your previous patches?
decimation: asciilifeform: starting to use bsd after linux for decades makes me feel like I'm in a funhouse
ben_vulpes: gentlemen, please check patches i've published as well
ben_vulpes: it's late and i'm banging my head against the opaque mess that is the amazon key-value store.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00079255 = 2.9324 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the patches just now published, specifically.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: couldn't hurt to check...
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sapper must know his limits.
ben_vulpes: the amazon key-value store jurov backed therealbitcoin.org with
ben_vulpes: all i want is to surface these text files to the internet :(
ben_vulpes: and all i have is borrowed borrowed borrowed leased and micro-sharded hardware on which to put it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30190 @ 0.00079531 = 24.0104 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: you end up in dependency hell very quickly
decimation: should be pretty similar to bsd, assuming user supplies paths to all dependencies
ben_vulpes: punkman: would it be terribly onerous to get deedbot to certify that multiple documents signed by different people are in fact the same document and that all of the signatures verify?
ben_vulpes: mod6 and i have burnt approximately an hour total trying to pretzel gpg into the correct contortions, and it's not working for us.
decimation: I"m running into some kind of build error on openbsd
ben_vulpes: implementing the mailing list hack you suggested throws a digest error.
ben_vulpes: if each party runs gpg --output out.sig --sign --armor thing-to-sign.txt, you can run gpg --decrypt out.sig on the blob
ben_vulpes: (you being punkbot or anyone verifying contracts)
ben_vulpes: that will *both* check the signature *and* show you the signed blob.
mod6: each party will want to name ``out.sig'' something different obv.
ben_vulpes: the cleartext of multiple versions of the same contract can be compared to each other
mod6: so in this case, ben.sig & mod6.sig, each yields a PGP armored message, that's just a signed file that can be verified.
ben_vulpes: and the parties should all deedify independently.
ben_vulpes: lol now that i spell it out parties should deedify seperately.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23282 @ 0.00079502 = 18.5097 BTC [-]
assbot: BitBeat: Bitcoin 2.0 Companies Respond to SEC Rumor: We’re Clean - MoneyBeat - WSJ
undata: altcoin, this reveals the real reason: avoiding the fucking government, not economics.
undata: that was apparently too long a line, meant to be one.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15539 @ 0.0007966 = 12.3784 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Last trade for AM1 on HAVELOCK was at 0.1242 BTC [-]
assbot: Last trade for HMF on HAVELOCK was at 0.00200157 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HMF] 1D: 0.00200700 / 0.00203369 / 0.00248999 (51 shares, 0.10371821 BTC), 7D: 0.00200602 / 0.00208495 / 0.00255630 (63 shares, 0.13135161 BTC), 30D: 0.00200001 / 0.00248113 / 0.00299768 (596 shares, 1.47875423 BTC)
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> punkman: would it be terribly onerous to get deedbot to certify that multiple documents signed by different people are in fact the same document and that all of the signatures verify? <<< this is not conceptually possible tho.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00079502 = 1.5105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00079348 = 21.1066 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Cyphertite | Flexible Data Plans
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00079693 = 4.5823 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16247 @ 0.00079327 = 12.8883 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00079195 = 16.8685 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00079567 = 10.6222 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20121 @ 0.00079581 = 16.0125 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4181 @ 0.0007941 = 3.3201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26456 @ 0.00079336 = 20.9891 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18841 @ 0.00079595 = 14.9965 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00079633 = 5.415 BTC [+]
assbot: What is the common thread connecting bitcoin WoT fixation, MRAs, PUAs and trolling? It’s quite peculiar how those cluster.
thickasthieves: lol my irc client isnt even caching how far back i am now that i scrolled down
thickasthieves: fwiw, i'm sensing a major disturbance in the force, re SEC letters, coinfire DMCA takedowm, COindesk waiving their hands saying 'these are not the sec letters yer lookin for'
thickasthieves: wtf is this bullshit with, we sending you a letter, but now that youve read it you dont have freedom of speech?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00079057 = 23.4009 BTC [-] {2}
RagnarDanneskjol: thickasthieves still buried - yea, I missed few days and dont think I'm ever gonna get through it -esp with any given link prompting hours+ sidetrack journey.. might have to declare lawg bk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00079444 = 5.6405 BTC [+]
mod6: was mp the only one to sign s.qntr?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00078955 = 10.8563 BTC [-]
mod6: html links point to wrong/non-existant files.
jurov: mod6 you mean the Signed links?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00079214 = 9.268 BTC [+]
assbot: OneRNG - Hardware Random Number Generator
mod6: <+jurov> mod6 you mean the Signed links? << yeah
mod6: looks like the keyid's are correct, just not linked to the correct file
mod6: was just checking these things too see what was done recently. for instance, with s.bbet the IPO was clear signed by one party, and then that clearsigned doc was then clearsigned again by a second party.
nubbins`: my s.mg ssw was signed in this fashion as well
nubbins`: as are my casascius custody chains, although that's more my decision than anyone else's 8)
mod6: i only see one sig for s.mg, which makes sense.
assbot: 15th blown, other statements. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mod6: ya, ben_vulpes & I need to try to figure it out too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00078955 = 19.8967 BTC [-]
nubbins`: didja see the links i posted yest?
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2014 01:16:56; nubbins`: also if anyone is curious, the following links may be of some use as a quick and dirty deed verification system:
nubbins`: not set up for multi-deed bundles yet, but should be a trivial change
bounce: dirty deeds, done dirt cheap
nubbins`: need your dirty deeds verified? roll into #b-a
nubbins`: say, i'm thinking about doing another run of posters, this time pgp-themed. any interest?
mod6: <+bounce> dirty deeds, done dirt cheap << +1
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assbot: Nathan Cirillo-inspired racism 'experiment' ends with punch to face - Latest Hamilton news - CBC Hamilton
assbot: Logged on 28-10-2014 12:47:11; asciilifeform: undata: onerng.info << best lulz! this calls for a mini-review.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i did, they answered (both guys), seemed reasonable enough, gave them a link to here.
mod6: lol, the ole right hook to the nose
assbot: On Tue, October 28, 2014 6:00 pm, Paul Campbell wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10 - Pastebin.com
thickasthieves: coinfire.cf went back online via bitcoinvps, now they are ddos'd
johntraveller: @mircea_popescu thanks, I just came across your blog via your comment on xenosystems
johntraveller: @micrea_popescu hello. yes, lots of good stuff. good to have my opinions of ethereum/altcoins/etc seconded
mircea_popescu: incidentally, is this "traveller" thing some sort of reference, because i keep seeying it.
mircea_popescu: i have in fact not followed either for any interval at all. these other guys do, maybe decimation is the local authority on yarvin. asciilifeform used to have a battleship or w/e it was called in his leaky snowglobe.
assbot: Stage n: Bitcoin exists. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: and im not even sure what nrx is. this chick that follows these things pointed it out here, but i don't think it's been followed up.
johntraveller: imo moldbug’s most interesting writing is on the history of progressivism, and how it evolved from puritanism
TomServo: ;;later tell nubbins` any interest? << I'm interested. Will it be another sight unseen deal?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you familiar with the theory of constant improvement ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, something like this : two brothers, same age, both wish to get married. this takes money. brother #1 goes into an apprenticeship, money's not good, but it slowly adds up, one year later he's saved enough.
assbot: oss-security - ftp(1) can be made execute arbitrary commands by malicious webserver
mircea_popescu: borther #2 doesn't think anything of this working for no good money bs, takes a loan, goes on a trading trip, a year later he's back, pays off his loan, has enough leftover to marry.
mircea_popescu: both strategies work, in practice. either proceed correctly or proceed gradually.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18544 @ 0.00078955 = 14.6414 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: diametric different i take it from any of the other 50 or so similar issues over the years ?
mircea_popescu: open fucking source. a billion eyes, yo. then next you know, everything is a piece of shit.
diametric: mircea_popescu: its comically bad. basically they reused the popen feature when using -o with a pipe, when omitting the -o option and instead deriving it from the url..
mircea_popescu: yeah, yeah. how's this different from the politicians ? they're also "fixing it"
mircea_popescu: diametric the original, gentlemanly internet is a fucking curse to the current internet.
assbot: CVS log for src/usr.bin/ftp/fetch.c
mircea_popescu: understand, us college is unlikely to mention that, too busy talking about irigaray and the rest of the worthless fuckwits
mircea_popescu: "because it privileges the speed of light over other speeds that are much more important to us"
mircea_popescu: also famous for being the only idiot ~lacan~ threw out for being an idiot.
mircea_popescu: lacan, you understand me ? the original "i cnat raed here's some words because words"
mircea_popescu: the idea that if you allow i dunno, the gardening club to be stupid the stupidity will sit there contained is beyond naive.
mircea_popescu: within a decade you get mathgardening clamoring for grants.
undata: "They also take issue with the assertion that fluid mechanics is unfairly neglected because it deals with "feminine" fluids in contrast to "masculine" rigid mechanics." << there are such feminists here in Portland
undata: ...WHO says men don't produce fluids?
assbot: Moment de intimitate-n baie pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: the whys and wherefores taking a leak on your girl is nice.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25563 @ 0.00078994 = 20.1932 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18701 @ 0.00078815 = 14.7392 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remember the people who think whitening does something ?
punkman: mircea_popescu: will be up shortly
punkman: added transaction broadcast retrying, and also bot will stop bundling if previous bundle tx remains unconfirmed
punkman: it won't make a new bundle, will leave deeds pending
punkman: well gotta confirm previous tx to spent again
punkman: because only one tx in address
mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean, better to queue the made txn than this i think
mircea_popescu: consider the following situation : bundle 1 gets made, added, gets 1 confirm. bundle 2 gets created, gets added just as the blockchain reogrs.
punkman: it has a queue, can just set max_unconfirmed
mircea_popescu: k so then it can just proceed with the bundles normally, irrespective of what happened to previous bundle.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17101 @ 0.00079421 = 13.5818 BTC [+] {2}
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: thanks, though I’m planning on lurking for a while until I’ve read more
assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6635 @ 0.00079444 = 5.2711 BTC [+]
assbot: Bitcoin Address Tags - Blockchain.info
johntraveller: and sit in my $200/mo apartment in china, slowly converting my british fiat into btc and planning business ideas that work once the fed’s printing presses stop spinnng
mircea_popescu: johntraveller in that case you'd better get in the wot asap.
assbot: Open Letter to Bitcoin Businesses: Why I'm closing my accounts - General - Bitcoin Foundation
mircea_popescu: "Let’s take a moment and chat. No secrets or techniques this time, I just want to take a post and discuss my own personal strategies for consistently dominating almost every niche I enter. Instead of creating an objective and methodologies I’m just going to casually write and talk some details, because of course my strategies require quite a bit of work and aren’t for everyone."
mircea_popescu: security ? "of course". not for everyone ? "of course". for everyone ? "of course!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46300 @ 0.00078741 = 36.4571 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00078626 = 20.3641 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 340.48, Best ask: 340.63, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 340.63, 24 hour volume: 11877.38045173, 24 hour low: 337.74, 24 hour high: 359.5, 24 hour vwap: 348.749963197
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.0007858 = 16.8947 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Some dangerous idea - serialized delusions
jurov: upon seeing the result.. well, i quite stepped into something
gribble: BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 hours, 36 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> Yeah
gribble: Error: "elementofone" is not a valid command.
gribble: elementofone was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 seconds ago: <elementofone> ;; elementofone
gribble: meowmix was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 1 day, 16 hours, 58 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <meowmix> !b 50
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: had an article I wrote last night. BingoBoingo said he'd be in "the office" in the morning. I guess I can just send to their inbox.
undata: elementofone: loud idiot from mass; who'd have expected that...
kakobrekla: i just had the best meat plate i had in years!
TomServo: Tried do.. but I bliped it seems.
kakobrekla: it seems it disregards '!' when searching
assbot: How to leak sensitive data from an isolated computer (air-gap) to a near by mobile phone - AirHopper | Cyber Security Labs @ Ben Gurion University
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ...conceptually possible << do clearsigned copies of the contract from both parties per S.WOL suffice?
ben_vulpes: this not being able to sign the same actual document thing is downright irksome.
ben_vulpes: i'd really like punkbot to take in the raw doc and .sig files. but...whatever.
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
thestringpuller: linked but malformed! my bad. i'm trying to get better at this words thing.
punkman: ben_vulpes: did you try the gpg multisig hack?
assbot: Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures - Bitcoin
ben_vulpes: punkman: we did and it blew up on digests.
assbot: Some dangerous idea - serialized delusions
jurov: lol... we miss that damn thing
ben_vulpes: forgive my mis/poor-understanding of the gpgmail thing, but...
ben_vulpes: is a clearsigned body not adequate because risk of crlf's?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7798 @ 0.00078725 = 6.139 BTC [+]
jurov: the body is only comment. patch itself will be always in attachment
jurov: with another attachemnt the signature
ben_vulpes: so what's wrong with a needle through which interested parties must pass their messages?
ben_vulpes: those who wish to write messages to the mailing list must ensure that their messages arrive mutilated.
jurov: if you register, you'll get bounces
rithm: there's actually some new appify thing that takes source code and make pretty .pdfs from it
jurov: or it will be held for moderation, dunn how it's configured atm
jurov: rithm, thx i remembereed lxr
jurov: it generates crosslinked html from c sources have used it to hack
ben_vulpes: so register, send messages until bounces stop
ben_vulpes: jurov: i don't get bounces for failed signatures.
ben_vulpes: my mail client doesn't seem to have a problem sending plaintext emails.
jurov: ben_vulpes: i don't see you in memberlist
mircea_popescu: cuz php is the tool for that job and ppl are too good for php ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00078761 = 15.8703 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: jurov: the unsigned email did not arrive, so i must presume your filter is doing *something*
jurov: yes i did get notification for the first one
jurov: you thought NSA ate it?
[]bot: Bet placed: 20 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 21(Y):79(N) by weight. Total bet: 54.81502285 BTC. Current weight: 14,770.
mircea_popescu: www.usapglobal.org/webalizer/low-concord-11s.html << the spammers thank the usap for all the free hosting/google rank
mircea_popescu: and why have a fucking email anywhere on the site ? not like you need to be warned when you got buttraped, because super-speshul and errything.
mircea_popescu: o wait, "in principle it could work for any language syntax" ?
mircea_popescu:
https://www.r3.org.uk/ "R3, The Association of Business Recovery Professionals is the leading organisation for insolvency, restructuring and turnaround specialists in the UK." but meanwhile www.r3.org.uk/styles/list.cfm?id=221 nike blazar
assbot: R3: Association of Business Recovery Professionals
mircea_popescu: this is the thing with bitcoin. never before have been smart people motivated to consider a wide swath of issues
mircea_popescu: from money and what poor idiots may get all the way to concordance mechanisms.
jurov: lxr is a steaming turd?
mircea_popescu: it's all been a "let the wife handle it" sort of whatever, while graham went on with "his real work" up until now.
jurov: cus it's bunch of cgi scripts.
jurov: that does not mean papache
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2014 06:37:37; asciilifeform: soviet scientist declares, 'we've invented a shit-to-food converter.' 'does it work?' 'sorta. spreading on bread: worlks!!11! eating - not quite yet.'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00078989 = 8.7678 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform granted. still... a step forward, soviet! :D
assbot: lobbes +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
lobbes: ty, I have fallen from assbot's favor :/
assbot: Drupal Core - Highly Critical - Public Service announcement - PSA-2014-003 | Drupal.org
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6737 @ 0.00079009 = 5.3228 BTC [+]
punkman: drupal's even worse than wordpress
diametric: at a previous job i had a decades worth of data involving compromised websites, and wordpress by far lead the pack in vulnerable and shitty cms
punkman: well dunno about security, but once upon a time I tried to work with it and it made 0 sense
bounce: ah. vulnerability revealed!
assbot: Tomorrow Is Another Day
joecool: diametric: DNN would win most compromised in my experience, wordpress usually got compromised through crappy plugins (of which there are MANY to choose from)
diametric: joecool: quite possibly, the data i had was real world scenarios, so actual real world wordpress installations.
diametric: which apparently includes a lot of shitty plugins.
mircea_popescu: ah. from what i see a lot of sites get owned through some sort of image plugin
joecool: a lot a of theme designers used it
mircea_popescu: www.wagonsformemories.com/images/links-of-london-cheap-charms.html << example.
joecool: even the creator of timthumb doesn't suggest it anymore
joecool: after they fixed the issues
mircea_popescu: www.snackbox-express.li/css/THAVASA-1.html << also see a lot of shit dumped in /css/ , which is problably indicative of wp or django
mircea_popescu: di-via.ru/images/tmp/1399976090_well20142.html >> moar /images/
diametric: "Removing a compromised website’s backdoors is difficult because it is not possible to be certain all backdoors have been found." lols.
joecool: most certainly timthumb, that script allowed you to upload any file trivially
mircea_popescu: diametric i don't think anyone tries to clean servers. reinstall is the only pill.
diametric: but almost never happens in practice
joecool: wordpress can be secured fairly well, not too many do it though (involves ripping out wp-admin from frontend and a mess of other things)
mircea_popescu: well that's because people build from the ground up with security in mind so never get owned.
joecool: mircea_popescu: did you have any compromises when it was?
assbot: The Storm That Was Fel pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: www.active-tools.com/Sitemanager/mulberry.asp?id=55 << also lulzy. wtf is "sitemanager"
assbot: The Coinbase Blog — Introducing Multisig Vault - You Can Now Control Your Own Private Keys On Coinbase
assbot: Some dangerous idea - serialized delusions
mircea_popescu: www.negotiatinggenuinely.com/holding/admin/gucci_online_433.html << guy wrote a book. herp.
mircea_popescu: jurov it's either a dangerous idea or some dangerous ideas you know.
jurov: kakobrekla how does it relate to some derpwallet?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, no, "how to negotiate". pretty sure he's a clueless twit rather than the actual spammer
kakobrekla: somebody is DOING something, and somebody else is DOING something else
kakobrekla: well not all the possible shit, just shit others are doing.
mircea_popescu: can i do the somebody doing something while doing the somebody else doing the something else ?
kakobrekla: until you get to homeopathic levels of scam
mircea_popescu: oakley took over a domain that seems like it was registered by some restaurant in italy, because well... spam.
mircea_popescu: apparently it's dangerous to actually run an open spamserver on your domain name. i wonder how they did it tho.
assbot: Oakley, Inc. v. DOES 1-100 et al. Case No. 12-cv-9864 | Greer, Burns & Crain, Ltd.
assbot: Ristorante L' Etoile, Lido Di Camaiore - Recensioni, Numero di Telefono & Foto - TripAdvisor
mike_c: <+kakobrekla> is there no last flea? << it's turtles all the way down.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21163 @ 0.00078725 = 16.6606 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00078782 = 11.8961 BTC [+]
assbot: RockMiner and ASICMINER Form Mining Cartel to Launch AMHash1 | Qntra.net
assbot: CurrentC Breeched | Qntra.net
joecool: the payment system industry is a fucking mess in the US
joecool: though i did think "Pay With ISIS" was funny
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23420 @ 0.00078797 = 18.4543 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: GNU wget Vulnerability | Qntra.net
BingoBoingo: I kind of liked the pedestrian/industrial combo word
joecool: ugh i hate how gnupg2 depends on pinentry -_-
assbot: Fed Ends Bond Buys, Sticks to 0% Rate for ‘Considerable Time’ - WSJ - WSJ
assbot: Blackmailers threaten Czechs with Ebola outbreak - Yahoo News
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00078725 = 6.6129 BTC [-]
assbot: What is the common thread connecting bitcoin WoT fixation, MRAs, PUAs and trolling? It’s quite peculiar how those cluster.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol:thickasthieves still buried - yea, I missed few days and dont think I'm ever gonna get through it -esp with any given link prompting hours+ sidetrack journey <<< you know, after a decade or two it gets better.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00078974 = 8.1343 BTC [+]
assbot: Wisconsin police send armoured vehicle to collect fine from 75-year-old | US news | theguardian.com
assbot: S.QNTR last @0.00000000
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00079128 = 19.9007 BTC [+] {3}
mod6: mircea_popescu: cool, np :]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4498 @ 0.00079293 = 3.5666 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00079583 = 24.432 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves incidentally, it occurs to me derpopo strangely omitted "technological expertise", "discoursive domination" and "intellectual superiority" in his list.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00079633 = 8.8393 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: then again i guess the blind man easily forgets to list vision.
xanthyos: Megacosm: join the wot, sell honey to these people for btc, no storefront, no overhead, no income tax
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what, in a day ? that's pretty reasonable.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00079638 = 4.5394 BTC [+] {2}
Apocalyptic: the first 100k blocks go like a brease yeah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23273 @ 0.00079691 = 18.5465 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13886 @ 0.00079849 = 11.0878 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: gotta love peeps that list "enquiries@" contact emails
thickasthieves: “I’ve been involved in about five standoff situations where, as soon as the MARV showed up, the person gives up,” Bean told the Journal Sentinel.
thickasthieves: yes i will dig into the turdatron and I'm happy about the foundation
TomServo: MARV also saves money! it's a win-win really.
ben_vulpes: hush you all stop talking about donating
thickasthieves: really i just wanna have ya'll in my pocket so when usg turns me i have value
nubbins`: i got turned like 5 months ago
nubbins`: all i gotta do is ask the occasional probing question and generally fuck with the S/N ratio
TomServo: mircea_popescu: the wisconsin article, it's what the call the armored vehicle
thickasthieves: speaking of which, why is reddit so excited that a longtime SEC chairman is advising bitpay or whomeevr?
nubbins`: misconsin armored retard vehicle
mircea_popescu: monkey is excited anytime nobody's beating it to shit.
nubbins`: i'll be excited when daphna a. waxman starts advising someone
nubbins`: <TomServo> any interest? << I'm interested. Will it be another sight unseen deal? <<< probably same as last time, sight-unseen for preorder discount
nubbins`: seemed to work ok last time, nobody complained "hey this poster is a piece of shit" etc
nubbins`: no, i mean the people who bought it unseen didn't complain that it sucked
mircea_popescu: nubbins` is going to end up immortalised in history like a bug in amber : that one guy that was going to print a book when all hell broke loose.
nubbins`: prolly be a few books about this place before it's all over
mircea_popescu: dioceseofsthelena.com/?mke=Sale-Michael-Kors-Handbags.html << apparently helena is still a total posh slut.
BingoBoingo: nubbins` is going to have to get a web press before the end of time
BingoBoingo: Ah, so the plan is to outsource the luser versions of the books?
nubbins`: nope, book will be 100% produced by me
nubbins`: i don't anticipate a huge demand right off the bat, so it'll be best to handle it myself
nubbins`: outsourcing comes with high minimums
thickasthieves: give it a eteched holographic cover and all of reddit will buy one too
BingoBoingo: Sure, but in a decade and a half when people want a textbook for courses...
mircea_popescu: but this guy in particular lol. that's like pedosmile**pedosmile
nubbins`: BingoBoingo at that point, addison wesley'll be churning them out by the millions, $150ea
nubbins`: ostensibly they'd do their own version
nubbins`: it's not like i've got a monopoly on transcribing code
mircea_popescu: what, it's on the interwebs, anyone can come publish it and sell the book ?
mircea_popescu: here's a thought : the sword cuts both ways. the same asinine legal idiocy that can be used to hinder bitcoin exchanges can be used by sovereign bitcoin companies to fuck everyone non-immune in the ass.
mircea_popescu: not like aw is going to move out of the us just so they can derp with bitcoin manual.
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> what, it's on the interwebs, anyone can come publish it and sell the book ? <<< "Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software..."
assbot: Copyright (c) 2009-2012 Bitcoin Developers Permission is hereby granted, free - Pastebin.com
mircea_popescu: right ? i mean amir also put some sort of disclaimer on whatever random code he "released"
mircea_popescu: sword cuts both ways. law abiding types will be fighing injunctions for twenty years before they can as much as print a fucking page off this log.
nubbins`: well, tell alf to cut COPYING from the book, i guess
mircea_popescu: or in other words, no, bitcoin isn't "open for everyone". bitcoin is open for everyone IN BITCOIN,
mircea_popescu: but that does not mean random fiat corp can come by and get rich exploiting it.
bounce: what? it's public, apparenly publicised with the consent of the authors. no judge is going to protect these logs, no matter how much you spend on lawyers.
mircea_popescu: and the fact that a woman is naked does not give you license to rape her.
mircea_popescu: even should you imagine the place she's naked at is public.
bounce: oh shush. you and your right to rape, eh.
bounce: those copyright notices, though. do they have written consent from satoshi?
nubbins`: bounce iirc the original versions had satoshi's name
undata: "his property was just sitting there, unguarded by razor wire!"
nubbins`: anyone with a 0.1 bundle able to confirm?
mircea_popescu: "satoshi's name" ? what, and we've been looking for a name all these years because nobody read the code ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00080566 = 14.7436 BTC [+]
nubbins`: Copyright (c) 2009 Satoshi Nakamoto in COPYING
bounce: he's not available to contest it and then you get into who has standing? (favourite usg tactic too. yes yes that's highly illegal, but nobody with standing to contest it.)
mircea_popescu: all the actual merits discussion aside, experience shows that a judge will protect literally anything, just gotta find the right judge.
mircea_popescu: bounce you make a claim, they make a claim. it goes to trial. sometime.
bounce: if you have the money and time to keep on litigating
undata: on the bitcoin side I'd rather these things were handled by reputation destruction
undata: than having some judge involved
mircea_popescu: maybe the public splaying of assholes like addison wesley is worth a dime off my pocet.
jurov: asciilifeform: mailman will display gpg clearsigned attachment inline if you rename it to .txt (and i don't ned to diddle code then)
undata: I've always liked exile as a form of punishment.
jurov: nubbins`: who? me?
nubbins`: you're saying replace the existing license with a new one, and then sue people who violate the new license? o.O
undata: presumably there will be new code with the rewrite
nubbins`: undata, sure, but the old code is still covered by its original license
mircea_popescu: im saying, it's extremely unlikely any of the dead trees publishers will come compete with you, because their legal dept won't let them.
mircea_popescu: and if their legal dept drops the ball, all the better, carnage.
undata: nubbins`: hm, what if all the old code is replaced?
mircea_popescu: because i like circumlocution, it's instructive to the audience.
nubbins`: undata then there's no problem. just ask the GNU team
cazalla: mircea_popescu: and the fact that a woman is naked does not give you license to rape her. <<< sounds like teach men not to rape, don't tell women what to wear, andreas would be proud
undata: mircea_popescu: I'm interested in your thoughts on the reputation destruction / exile angle.
mircea_popescu: you and i might not give a shit, but all these fiat dorks have no choice and no option.
undata: vs traditional law enforcement
cazalla: i would guess most rapists would prefer the woman dressed to begin with anyway
mircea_popescu: cazalla yes. most rapists aren't interested in women that enjoy fucking in public.
cazalla: christmas is no fun if your present is not wrapped
undata: mircea_popescu: in the future, should BTC engulf the old thing, I could see that being a requirement
undata: and I could see being left outside being a pretty terrible disincentive
undata: say X steals your content, you're well known/liked/etc
undata: there's a backlash and he receives negative ratings from many
undata: the guy is marked for life
mircea_popescu: my content is like my sluts : more expensive to steal than to rent.
assbot: Logged on 17-10-2014 23:29:04; mircea_popescu: you know the story about how they kidnapped that chick, sent a ransom note,
undata: mircea_popescu: one could imagine further that a system of contracts among those operating the most important parts of the economy might prevent them from dealing with the "marked"
mircea_popescu: this is one of the least understood parts, how all this will work.
assbot: Fever The Ghost - SOURCE (official music video) - YouTube
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ben_vulpes: felix colgrave would be a neat choice for btc comix
kakobrekla: ben_vulpes cant reproduce, do you know whats the problem or fix ?
undata: ben_vulpes: like, woah.
assbot: jborkl_ +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
jborkl_: I am finally done with the website. I have fixed all my known errors, except the grammer :/ Those will never be fixed
kakobrekla: now you can start working for qntra ><
jborkl_: it would be easy now. I know what to do
jborkl_: I even got it down to one w3tc error. I have to leave one just for the hell of it
undata: jborkl_: what website?
jborkl_: getting into google news is the last part, but I have done everything needed so it should be smooth
jborkl_: Mircea, how is Argentina treating you?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00081054 = 15.9676 BTC [+] {2}
jborkl_: excellent, picking up the language pretty easy?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14036 @ 0.00080404 = 11.2855 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: seen his stuff before.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ah in that sense. what i mean is, there's plenty of talent out there. whether the talent is in the wot or not about 1000x as much as a factor as how good stuff they got in their portofolio
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ah, i see. well, i enjoy his animations but my taste may not align with anyone else's.
mircea_popescu: this is the time when mediocre artists get to become stars, simply for moving faster than the average "talented" idiot.
assbot: The Elephant's Garden - YouTube
assbot: Lumea nu-i de-ajuns pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: much more talented, but... who cares. so he killed himself because picasso was way ahead.
ben_vulpes: for some reason i think asciilifeform would like the above linked video too
ttnews_: any guess as to how low bitcoin will go?
ben_vulpes: assets is now on a hallutropic interlude ttnews_
adlai: ttnews_: bitcoin clearly doesn't have a single price yet, so on which market are you wondering?
undata: ben_vulpes: you may enjoy the game Machinarium
undata: "Amanita Design" created it
ttnews_: I'm a newb made a big mistake and longed at 348. I read a website claiming it could go to 320 or as low as 280. I don't wanna panic but then again i get the feeling like i should cut my losses then short it since the stock market did crappy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00081021 = 12.0721 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ttnews_ noobs have no business playing speculator with their consumer savings.
mircea_popescu: reduce your holdings to something comensurate with your means and go read up on bitcoin.
ttnews_: is there any way i can salvage the dmg caused so far. I lose everything at $321 but I'm thinking it could bounce back and rise? fml...
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones he probably bought who knows what overleveraged nonsense
mircea_popescu: ask your wife/gf/so to give you 100 lashes to the bare buttocks while at it.
mircea_popescu: you know the one where two traditional parents find some pretty heavy bdsm porny magazines in junior's room ?
mircea_popescu: cue to them sitting pensively around the kitchen table. after a while, wife : "i think we shouldn't punish him..."
los_pantalones: ttnews_ why would you trade something that drifts 5% overnight
los_pantalones: also, you understand this selloff is specifically targeted to squeeze ppl like you out of the market?
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones i guess you misses that one time when it went 400% in two hours.
ttnews_: yes - short squeeze.. i'm learning the terms. another term i'm very knowledgable on: murphy's law
los_pantalones: mircea, don't kill him, please, enough carnage for one night
undata: "I've never shot a gun before. I got this AR15; now my feet are gone. Guys, what do I do?"
undata: los_pantalones: just one
undata: even on /r/bitcoin there have been numerous, NUMEROUS horror stories about this.
undata: the solution is to never gamble again.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00081021 = 1.7014 BTC [+]
ttnews_: i got the charts right just panicked like a newb - if I were a little more patient I'd be doing great now...
ben_vulpes: what is this, torture hour in -assets?
ben_vulpes: roast the poor squeezed longs in the forum as an example.
Apocalyptic: "if I were a little more patient I'd be doing great now..." // the noob fallacy, as it there was a way to perfectly time the bottom
undata: ben_vulpes: is that an invitation?
ben_vulpes: undata: it's the forum, you can speak, you don't need any permission from me.
undata: ben_vulpes: you said "goodbye pants"
ben_vulpes: my position on trading's an open secret.
assbot: 48h Open House Buenos Aires
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 336.34, Best ask: 336.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.64000, Last trade: 336.34, 24 hour volume: 12803.75420714, 24 hour low: 336.01, 24 hour high: 357.45, 24 hour vwap: 345.185687843
nubbins`: kakobrekla: add a <br/> after <div class="calcInputLine">...</div>
nubbins`: just before the first <span class="calcResult">
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00080299 = 17.8264 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: bitstein I hung out with you're buddy Pierre_Rochard last week. Cool dude.
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bitstein: thestringpuller: I heard good things.
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Pierre_Rochard: ;;rate thestringpuller 2 “lives in atl, didn’t scam me”
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thestringpuller: ;;rate Pierre_Rochard 2 met in real life. can confirm is real person.
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bounce: a bezzler? like fiat money is supposedly "real" money?
bounce grapples with the concept
long-day: exactly - it's not which why I don't see how most can't see that it's great that bitcoin is giving the fiat $ competition
Pierre_Rochard: ben_vulpes: the opposite of gribble, not a bot. Generous on thestringpuller’s part, I’m probably somewhere in between a bot and a real person
long-day: this is ttnews by the way-- i'm a journalist and my wish is to learn this and to promote it on my news network/podcast/websites/facebook pages. I know this is the future and I've got quite a large reach so I know I can do a lot of good. I'm obviously desperate coming on here. And I take it trading margin on bitfinix is not suggested by you guys... and I didn't put all my eggs in one basket but I do learn from my mistakes and
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17314 @ 0.00080149 = 13.877 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: well by that token we're all "real people"
ben_vulpes: 'cept mebbe long-lost right here as he ain't got a key to speak of.
long-day: I'm embarassed as it is which is why I'm anonymous right now.
ben_vulpes: probably the best thing you could do is enter at this low point and then demonstrate the abilit to learn, long-day.
bounce: what's with the desperation?
mircea_popescu: yeah ben_vulpes has it. there's excellent reason why i ask girls to camwhumiliate themselves. best starting point is utter shame.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00079669 = 5.4175 BTC [-]
long-day: some of the fb pages I manage are "end the fed" and "jesse ventura 2016" about a dozen more. My gf's reach is crazy (about 16-26 million people a week). Idk why I'm desperate.. maybe because my dad failed at the stock market and and I don't like him very much...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is why they got a problem. shat all over their entry point.
long-day: because I wanna buy my mom a new roof for her house and take care of her.
ben_vulpes: that burning feeling of imitating thy fathers failures.
BingoBoingo: long-day: The last serious market, MPEx, pulled out of BTC Options after the Putocolypse.
mircea_popescu: James George Janos (born July 15, 1951), better known by his stage name, Jesse Ventura, is an American politician, actor, author, naval veteran, and former professional wrestler who served as the 38th Governor of Minnesota from 1999 to 2003.
mircea_popescu: o.O. the endless variety of us peoples, or how did that quote go.
bounce: the website is at peopleofwalmart.com
long-day: alright, I will be googling most of what you said word by word so I better understand what you mean. I appreciate it.
bounce: promises, promises. good thing the logs are patient. and usually there, too.
BingoBoingo: There's also a log of the logs if the logs go down
mircea_popescu: long-day how do you figure a facebook page has any reach, and how do you quantify it to 20mn people a week ?
bounce: it's the network effect, see?
long-day: my pages don't have that huge of a reach but my gf is cofounder of some big organizations and is admin on about 30 pages, half of which have about half a million subscribers each
long-day: my pages only have 50-70k people subscribed on each.
assbot: coruus/cooperpair · GitHub
mircea_popescu: course, facebook subscribers != people, and facebook subscribers != weekly.
punkman: also PSA: don't use keyids in contracts, go for fingerprint
assbot: cooperpair/gpg.conf at master · coruus/cooperpair · GitHub
mircea_popescu: the problem is you russian folk can't say the woman had tea without specifying if she was sitting down and how hot was it!
long-day: well... 20 million people reached a week just means 20 million people total scroll past her posts on her feeds - doesn't necessarily mean they all click on her posts :-/ but if the blog/video is good enough and she posts it, it will go viral
BingoBoingo: Shame I'll never see any of them since I ended Facebook.
ben_vulpes: long-day: doesn't mean either that any of those posts make it into the feed.
ben_vulpes: the feed is a facebook curated thing - not something anyone outside of their revenue extraction machine has any say in.
long-day: in our field (activism) viral is considered 100k people on a youtube video I suppose? If we were posting stuff about kittens it would get 2 million people.
mircea_popescu: long-day 100k youtube views cost like 20 bux or so iirc.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> long-day 100k youtube views cost like 20 bux or so iirc. << Basically this is the thing that pays for decent streaming tv
BingoBoingo: No, they actually seem to do the later. Insert video to be viewed before video people want to view.
long-day: actually there are ways to cheat the algorithims. every time you like your own post or a comment that someone made on your post or if you reply to a comment, it refreshes and shows up on all the subscribers feeds again (if they are on FB at that moment in time). She's made an ebook on how to get your posts seen and is gonna sell it in the next month (she's great at that crap)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand how the world [of the morlocks] works.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 336.03, vol: 13187.80136019 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 332.193, vol: 6104.66616 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 335.37, vol: 25358.92116491 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 336.135832, vol: 78274.23490000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 335.06565, vol: 8.87321215 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 341.226, vol: 65.37761087 | Volume-weighted last average: 335.773532844
BingoBoingo: Oh, BTC not crashing as much as retail gasoline.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's a fun tidbit : idiot with synflood actually used a bunch of websites to do it. so after some scriptage i'm emailing the owners to fix their bs. i had to throtle it because .. too many replies.
mircea_popescu: i could start a web security business just out of the fallout of that one failed ddos.
mircea_popescu: and this of course would be round 2, because wordpress before that, you recall.
bounce: like this guy in -otc, set up a cheap shop full of "coders" in pakistan, had them churn out cookie-cutter "apps" with other people's content, dump on the app store, make five bucks each, sell a million before people catch on his 35k apps on the store are all crap. -- he's a real s/w house, yo.
long-day: all you do is post to the fanpage, wait 30 min, then like the post, wait 30 more min, like a comment (if someone has commented), 30 min later reply to their comment etc... paying 20 dollars for 100k youtube views is impossible. one of my youtube channels is partnered so it gets twice the adsense payout,. they pay 3-5 dollars per thousand views. 100k views on a video would make me about 400 dollars and 3 times that from the b
bounce: so, we gots us a real publisher on our hands, yo.
mircea_popescu: bounce this sadly passes for "business" and "entrepreneurship" in a world populated by imbeciles running on fumes of "fairness" and "social justice"
bounce: nah, got kicked out. 'cuz what hot new shop fresh on the scene can possibly produce thousands of quality apps?
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2014 06:23:40; asciilifeform: channelling herr naggum: 'It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an inspiration to future authors.'
mircea_popescu: mocking you can account for endless hours of amusement
bounce: oh and too many complaints triggered it. but anyway.
jurov: long-day: you know there's a search for bitbet affiliate manager?
jurov: yes coinbr does it too (there's nothing intereesting for chumps, tho)
jurov: oh and coinroll too on individual basis
jurov: since yesterday or so ;)
mircea_popescu: lol. so there you go long-day, you can make a fortune affing for bitcoin sites.
long-day: I know basically nothing when it comes to this. I've been awake for more than 36 hours straight trying to learn though. And many hours over the last week on top of that. When it comes video editing, marketing, writing blogs, networking and getting access to good interviews I know my stuff... Bitcoin I know very little though. I want to know though. A year ago at Porcfest is when I learned about it. I've interviewed nearly ev
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00079637 = 9.3175 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: you know how everywhere in the civilised world (so therefore, not in the US, excepot for vegas) shops employ young'uns to sit outside and invite people in ?
bounce: ;;translate german english affe
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no lol, he's interviewed nearly everyone who pretends to be involved with btc without actually being involved :D it's how this usually works.
long-day: The activist community LOVES bitcoin bigtime... the two leading female promoters of bitcoin i'm friends with, but they don't know anything about trading.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I was going off of the porcfest name drop
long-day: it's too small a world to start naming names. I'm certain there are people reading this who are friends with them
bounce: so get'em both in here and have'em introduce themselves
jurov: "you mentioned my name on bitcoin-assets! how dare you!!!!11"
long-day: well... all the stuff I told you guys are trade secrets and the fact that I'm doing horribly with the trading so far is just embarassing
mircea_popescu: "it's too small a world to start naming names" << this made exactly zero chance.
bounce: so your trade secrets are horrible. what're you, a walking shop of horrors?
mircea_popescu: as a rule of thumb, if you keep doing this vague bs you'll end up on everyone's shitlist.
mircea_popescu: i imagine you don't really want that, so, be specific, go into detail, that's how people evaluate you.
long-day: I kinda look like a dumbass right now, I'm aware of that and would rather contain it.
bounce: there's a easy fix for that. hit the sack.
assbot: “Jian Ghomeshi is my friend, and Jian Ghomeshi beats women” - Salon.com
mats_cd03: did it ever come out how ulbricht got owned re: ID forgeries?
BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: To my knowledge it seems the entire ID forgery business is pretty much a USG monopoly
mircea_popescu: mostly run as a cheap way to find people who think they should be prosecuted.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` can i has summary ? salon not rly worth a click
nubbins`: very popular canadian media personality beat the shit outta a bunch of women, his friend who happens to be a world-renowned composer wrote a frank essay on the subject, essay is now apparently a media item in itself
bounce: I see mostly repeats about how three anonymous women got hit. nothing about context, intensity, duration, whatever. couldabeen a slap. so, I see mostly words that paint broad strokes at maximum contrast, with no grounding.
mats_cd03: i am always confused when i read these things
mats_cd03: people need to be specific. sexual assault, or sexual battery?!
jurov: lol what's that? fake orgasms?
bounce: this "nobody believes women!!1!" when the more important bit is that they're remaining anonymous (beyond the poor reader, to whom, exactly?). this annoys me.
bounce: then there's this ``Katie McDonough is Salon's politics writer, focusing on gender, sexuality and reproductive justice.'' -- busily dressing up the thing with seemingly relevant and respectably looking numbers that really aren't meaningful to the problems in the piece.
bounce: "thou shalt not reproduce!" -- if only
mircea_popescu: "he's our junior high math teacher, focusing on c++ strings implementation"
mircea_popescu: katie mcdonough is salon's timewasting chatterbox. they need someone to actually do politics writing.
bounce: like socialist class warfare, only across gender lines
mircea_popescu: across gender lines and against the wall of "nobody gives a shit"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4861 @ 0.00079829 = 3.8805 BTC [+]
bounce: about as productive. seeing how labour ends up importing pathetic chumps from elsewhere to keep access to a large pool of repressed lowlifes to represent.
mircea_popescu: wait i thought it was the evil fatcat capitalists that keep importing cheap spooks to keep the local spooks down
bounce: that's the yoosah. in yurp it was labour gov'ts doing the importing, in the 70s and such.
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> consensual or just off da street ? <<< my understanding is that (some of) the women consented to a bit of kink, but then guy starts punching in head/mouth, choking to point of unconsciousness, etc
nubbins`: another was a co-worker who got her ass grabbed and "i wanna hate-fuck you" whispered in ear during a meeting
nubbins`: but as for the sexual encounters, seems like they signed up for consensual kink but messy gomeshi took this as carte blanche
nubbins`: now he's suing the cbc for $50m (lel), hired a PR firm, etc etc
nubbins`: more like "disguising outright abuse / sociopathic behaviour as BDSM/kink" than "losing it" i guess
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the fucktard "justice" warriors realise that their constant if innefectual nipping at the heels means that anyone involved who can afford it will in fact spend the money and clobber everyone in range.
mircea_popescu: pretty much the direct equivalent of the "tough on rape" laws that simply made sure every rape victim will ALSO be a homicide victim
nubbins`: well the lel is that he was in a union, he can't sue the cbc for $50m
nubbins`: it'll get pushed to a union grievance
nubbins`: but it *does* allow him to file a bunch of paperwork and get his version of events on the public record
mircea_popescu: not all management gets this "union only" sort of coverage.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i guess, yeah. not clear what was there.
assbot: Jian Ghomeshi: CBC releases memo citing ‘claim of impropriety’ | Toronto Star
nubbins`: ^ the star has been hitting it outta the park as far as canadian investigative journo goes these past couple years
nubbins`: you may recall they broke the rob ford crack tape story
ben_vulpes: <long-day> The activist community LOVES bitcoin bigtime... the two leading female promoters of bitcoin i'm friends with, but they don't know anything about trading. << and what does trading have to do with bitcoin?
ben_vulpes: otherwise the phenom's just to clearly retarded to be even slightly amusing
ben_vulpes goes back to encrypting keys that google insists be shared
Pvt_Key: if you feel a stupid you did not make that stupid.
ben_vulpes: <Pvt_Key> if you feel a stupid you did not make that stupid. << who is pranking me now
assbot: Live at the Ship | Danielle Bailey
mircea_popescu: dude, i walk away for a minute, everyone;'s on a roll lol