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mod6: asciilifeform: thanks!
mod6: new ffa compiles
shinohai: https://blog.comae.io/wannacry-decrypting-files-with-wanakiwi-demo-86bafb81112d <<< claims to have "fix" for the Wannacry ransomware.
trinque: publishing a fake fix that wrapped it in yet another layer of ransomware would be top trolling.
shinohai: !!up mav11
deedbot: mav11 voiced for 30 minutes.
phf: rich hickey is a common lisper, i met him at philly ete back when the language was still in flux, and thought that his pedigree is going to be a benefit to the system that he's trying to build. not so. he made similar rationalization to gosling "such and such feature is complicated for the end lusers, so i decided we're not going to support it" re readtables, exception, proper type hierarchy, etc.
mircea_popescu: wtf does this "end user ease" bs come from anyway.
mircea_popescu: how do they have sex, these people ? "this part of the penis she might feel, please ablate" ?
phf: i suspect thinking is "i can trick her into having sex with me, by making myself bland and non-threatening"
mircea_popescu: "we support urethra-only penis ; easier for end user, plus more octopus compatible this way too!"
mircea_popescu: holy shit, you're right aren't you.
mircea_popescu: "if it dun feel like much of a fuck, she might sit put a turn."
asciilifeform: vampire bat cock lol
phf: “P: A programming language for asynchrony, fault-tolerance and uncertainty (microsoft.com)” cc asciilifeform
mod6: !up moli_
mod6: !!up moli_
deedbot: moli_ voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: phf: and tmsr is a thorium molten salt reactor, dun forget.
asciilifeform: and an australian rock band.
asciilifeform: and i fughet what else.
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659495 << i'm using a mouse with 1 button and even that's too many buttons. mouse just needs to point; keyboard can click. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 21:27 ben_vulpes: upteen-zillion configurable buttons, and two scrolly-bits
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D4D6639A2284B17CBCAC69E9DCFF7FA528B73CD98FD8AFA6770053ECD72EC7E9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1032...9853 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '74.45.231.198 (ssh-rsa key from 74.45.231.198 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D4D6639A2284B17CBCAC69E9DCFF7FA528B73CD98FD8AFA6770053ECD72EC7E9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1024...8989 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '74.45.231.198 (ssh-rsa key from 74.45.231.198 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8A41C72E132CA27C714CCBB891B3E0FB2599ADD962AA0B016016A35D597E6DEC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1223...6897 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '112.16.68.44 (ssh-rsa key from 112.16.68.44 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8A41C72E132CA27C714CCBB891B3E0FB2599ADD962AA0B016016A35D597E6DEC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1020...5183 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '112.16.68.44 (ssh-rsa key from 112.16.68.44 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/88FF39F5C93A6DA366B8B6C3C28699D4787489C0F3C0EB0D45AF999D9D6809FC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1020...5183 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '183.249.251.162 (ssh-rsa key from 183.249.251.162 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/88FF39F5C93A6DA366B8B6C3C28699D4787489C0F3C0EB0D45AF999D9D6809FC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1226...2807 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '183.249.251.162 (ssh-rsa key from 183.249.251.162 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D4D6639A2284B17CBCAC69E9DCFF7FA528B73CD98FD8AFA6770053ECD72EC7E9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1032...9853 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '74.45.231.198 (ssh-rsa key from 74.45.231.198 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3D39768DC3697D89650029AA98422A7B114356E890AA3879B03F8A4B277EF854 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1032...9853 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '74.45.229.185 (ssh-rsa key from 74.45.229.185 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3D39768DC3697D89650029AA98422A7B114356E890AA3879B03F8A4B277EF854 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1250...3197 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '74.45.229.185 (ssh-rsa key from 74.45.229.185 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US)
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-07#1516891 >> did this ever get resolved? i'm at the same impasse ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-07 18:22 hanbot: so in V99995 testing, it'd seem the asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig is "invalid", i imagine 'cause of something to do with stan's old key? and deedbot only spits the current, which i have. i don't see the old one on btcalpha either, anyone have an idea fo' me?
asciilifeform: !!key asciilifeform
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/17215D118B7239507FAFED98B98228A001ABFFC7.asc
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: make sure your copy matches ^
asciilifeform: ( modulus expir date was changed, for the last time, in january '17 )
asciilifeform: fwiw the modulus never changed, and isn't going to change, DITCH THE OLD CRUD folx plz!!!
asciilifeform: stop distributing mod+expireddatesig!! it does 0 good !!
asciilifeform: old sigs WILL verify with current keys, mine, phf's, etc
asciilifeform: whoever else used to have expiring keys
danielpbarron: i specifically used that copy from deedbot, as per the instructions on thebitcoin.foundation
danielpbarron: i'm sure i also have an old copy, but this is a totally new machine
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: try manually verifying one of my seals on that box
asciilifeform: post the output plx
asciilifeform: !~later tell danielpbarron iirc someone ( pete_dushenski ? ) recently had same problem, culprit was a corrupted ( passed through a www browser that raped the line endings ) vpatch.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 1976.35, vol: 13751.04547662 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 1963.339, vol: 6946.43921 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 1980.1, vol: 22504.38983902 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1838.447471, vol: 9678.78220000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 1972.985, vol: 6720.92530865 | Volume-weighted last average: 1953.47589047
BingoBoingo: Oh my, we've almost OMG CRASHING into $CURRENTYEAR
shinohai: moli_: If you would like assistance in setting up a znc or weechat instance to help curb the join/part spam, please PM me.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/what-the-fuck-am-i-going-to-do-literally/ << Trilema - What the fuck am I going to do ? Literally.
shinohai: Who knew that mircea_popescu could prevent unwanted pregnancies!
mircea_popescu: ikr!
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/Bh25t >> '...the Education Department is paying its debt collectors up to $1,710 per borrower to collect around $45...'
mircea_popescu: and if it stopped, they'd have to find some other way to bribe the populace.
mircea_popescu: "independent contractors", ie govt paper pushers without health insurance or pensions. if they don't have a job, what do they do ? shoot hillary ?
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-20#1659702 << http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/mFWXY/?raw=true ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-20 04:28 asciilifeform: post the output plx
danielpbarron: ah i see. i downloaded them with lynx which apparently added some lines to the head of the files about where they were downloaded from..
danielpbarron: i used curl and the same file now verifies
mod6: yah
mod6: are you using V99994 now too?
mod6: not that theres any difference, but then you get the advantage of some really important enhancements/fixes.
danielpbarron: i'm doing this one http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html
danielpbarron: and for those curious, here's what lynx adds >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/odgWG/?raw=true
mod6: yup, that's the one, thx.
shinohai: I forgot how long I have been using my own mirror on localhost, but it is exact copy of what is on http://thebitcoin.foundation and presses clean for me.
danielpbarron: yeah it's all good. once i removed those headers from all the patch files it pressed fine
mircea_popescu: and in today's lulz, ancient (march 2012) mp predicting asics and chiding idiots for failing to do anything useful. http://trilema.com/2012/de-unde-vine-valoarea-inovatiei
mircea_popescu: it's a good thing i'm right... now and again. LUCK!!11
shinohai: One of these days I want a trilema header with mircea_popescu gazing into crystal ball .... PREDICTING TEH FUTURE :D
mircea_popescu: (for the record -- first "company" to announce bitcoin mining asic was the ndrangheta scam of sony vleisides ("butterfly labs"), an ex-con dealing while under supervised release in breach ofr the terms of that release which the "tough on crime" usg has never yet prosecuted.)
mircea_popescu: that happened in june 2012, ie, dorks read trilema, figured they could pull off the scam of offering faux variant of item, and went for it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'take money and ship difficultyobsolete, dusty, and thermally raped asics 6 months later' folx were not much better
asciilifeform: idiot lamers thought 'hey, six months of anticipatory drooling', sc4mz0r: 'hey, phreee loan'
mircea_popescu: the point here is that some unworthy criminal organisation daring to pretend to sovereignity has the unmitigated audacity to refuse to prosecute known criminals and then try and talk to me about whatever inept fucking hussles it came up with that quarter.
mircea_popescu: there is a reason mp doesn't think much of usg "law enforcement", and that reason is in the vein of the healthy man not thinking much of the sexual competition by the bellhop of notre dame.
asciilifeform: same thing with pirate et al, no ? there was a time when usg nurtured and protected btc scammers of all types
mircea_popescu: yes.
asciilifeform: 'yi yi zhi yi'
mircea_popescu: and that time ain't going a-fucking-way just because hurr, five years passed and there's a new generation of woke dumbasses.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-20#1659723 << somehow i dun recall my lynx doing this. gotta wonder what the author of your ver was thinking ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-20 15:25 danielpbarron: and for those curious, here's what lynx adds >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/odgWG/?raw=true
asciilifeform: probably some variant of http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-29#901052 . ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-10-29 01:36 asciilifeform: because plain ascii is like naked people
mircea_popescu: (probably a fine time to underscore the http://trilema.com/2012/the-stockexchange-shareholders-on-welfare/#selection-2229.1-46.1459 lulz. guess what -- it's not that THOSE random dorks are no longer here. it's that preet is now a "resident scientist" at NYU and i'm exactly where i was when his career was beginning, also.)
mircea_popescu: and in other maga lulz, http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/12/ex-cia-officer-faces-imminent-extradition-to-italy-hopes-trump-can-help.html
asciilifeform: old noose neh
asciilifeform: afaik nothing came of it
mircea_popescu: !#s sousa
a111: 0 results for "sousa", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=sousa
asciilifeform: jan. 12
mircea_popescu: ah in that sense. well... ongoing matter.
mircea_popescu: anyway, she was taken in custody in february, is currently sirtting in portugal jail afaik.
Framedragger: http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/conceptual-penis-social-contruct-sokal-style-hoax-on-gender-studies/ << via https://twitter.com/gregeganSF (yes turns out he has a twatter account) << via https://twitter.com/jonathan_blow
Framedragger: !$getarchive http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/conceptual-penis-social-contruct-sokal-style-hoax-on-gender-studies/
scriba: Previously archived URL: http://archive.is/NGx3J (this was archived by scriba: no)
mircea_popescu: " The androcentric scientific and meta-scientific evidence that the penis is the male reproductive organ is considered overwhelming and largely uncontroversial."
mircea_popescu: this just aroused my awareness. bbl.
Framedragger: hehe
Framedragger: "The paper was ridiculous by intention, essentially arguing that penises shouldn’t be thought of as male genital organs but as damaging social constructions. We made no attempt to find out what “post-structuralist discursive gender theory” actually means. We assumed that if we were merely clear in our moral implications that maleness is intrinsically bad and that the penis is somehow at the root of it, we could get the paper
Framedragger: "published in a respectable journal."
Framedragger: "paper" itself is good, too
ben_vulpes: good find Framedragger
ben_vulpes: "...and is the conceptual driver behind much of climate change"
Framedragger: "Some references cite the Postmodern Generator"
Framedragger: /me rolls on floor
ben_vulpes: i salute the noise-floor raising achievements so displayed
ben_vulpes: with my penis
Framedragger: "We intended to test the hypothesis that flattery of the academic Left’s moral architecture in general, and of the moral orthodoxy in gender studies in particular, is the overwhelming determiner of publication in an academic journal in the field." noshit.jpg but also applause.jpg
BingoBoingo: OMG, did they just marginalize penises of color?
danielpbarron: i got a bitcoind to compile with the latest instructions and it is confirmed to add new blocks to my pre-existing .bitcoin which is now currently at height 450026
ben_vulpes: neato danielpbarron
ben_vulpes: didja throw wires, or pete_dushenski's regrind of the getpeerinfo backport or any other strange into the tree?
danielpbarron: no
mircea_popescu: Framedragger come to think about it, the logic actually follows. nature is red in tooth and claw. the hysteria of "removing the red from nature's tooth and claw", usually sold by the "our democracy" lunatics as "rule of law" or equivalent, directly runs all the way to "male penis is not reproductive organ but social construct".
mircea_popescu: that's the whole story. if you're not ok with your kid cutting up the puppy you bought it to see what's inside, you're not ok with having a dick. there's no stop on the slope.
mircea_popescu: !!key Alexey_
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/E79D7852E5EA7C8A837EC51447F9785975D5715F.asc
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659543 << omg sexist!1 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 22:26 asciilifeform: didja have the woman write this post, pete_dushenski , or wat
pete_dushenski: i have an eye for fashion, what can i tell ya
pete_dushenski: speaking of fashions, https://twitter.com/xychelsea/status/865250670831702016
pete_dushenski: ^for transtomologists only
pete_dushenski: Framedragger: that paper is g-g-g-g-gold. should win pulitzer. hey if maya angelou can be nominated, these guys deserve it take home whole shebang.
pete_dushenski: s/it/to
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: thx for the latest activism piece! very much enjoyed the call to arms. now, to figure out how to do away with fiat banks entirely...
pete_dushenski: it makes a respectable five-year plan if nothing else.
mircea_popescu: doesn't have to be entirely. has to be substantially.
pete_dushenski: that's definitely more doable.
mircea_popescu: rather. just like you know, taking back alimentary independence is making the girls capable to cook anything if need be, not everything all the time.
mircea_popescu: quite a different story to be eating out cuz want to eat out vs cuz want to eat.
pete_dushenski: big time. i rarely eat out because between the girl at home and the chef girl at the office, restaurants just seem slow, overpriced, and less amenable to my sundry whims and fancies
pete_dushenski first read alimentary independence as alimonial independence, figured that bitcoin was as staunch a defense against prying states/spouses as anything
pete_dushenski: if only greenspun wasn't so old, jewy, and busy with winblozboxen, he could shut up about 'no-fault divorce' and how 'banging school principal in mass. is a better career choice for girls than medicine' and just suggest the only right and proper remedy to that particular poison pill.
pete_dushenski still guiltily checks greenspun's blergh once a week, isn't always disappointed
pete_dushenski: there's something strangely appealing about reading the musings of nearly sentient middle-aged gentleman of the fiat persuasion. they're just a bit too over the hill to be here, but were they fortunate to have been born just a decade or two later, they would've/could've/should've made fine republican specimens.
pete_dushenski: i'd put taleb, greenspun, tyler cowen, russ roberts, and matt levine in this camp.
pete_dushenski: jeez that group is 80% jew by mass and the other 20% is still eastern mediterranean. fuckimbiased!
pete_dushenski: "It was designed as an impregnable deep-freeze to protect the world’s most precious seeds from any global disaster and ensure humanity’s food supply forever. But the Global Seed Vault, buried in a mountain deep inside the Arctic circle, has been breached after global warming produced extraordinary temperatures over the winter, sending meltwater gushing into the entrance tunnel." << no one fails more
pete_dushenski: hilariously than globalist-climatist-preppers
mircea_popescu: somehow oddly it's not "our inept activity ruined a previously fine natural space".
mircea_popescu: they get a free card. certainly NOT their bumbling idiocy digging the thing in the first place sent gushing meltwater. o no. not that.
pete_dushenski: or "no one told us building DOWN into permafrost was a terrible idea so it's not our fault, we couldn't have known"
mircea_popescu: i suppose next stop is angry newspaper articles about how global warming burned a bunch of the lychens in some "artist studio" somewhere. because it totally was not the piled up dry garbage.
pete_dushenski: and "global warming caused lice to infest my body hair"
ben_vulpes: i gotta point out that a lykkin is far more likely to have a mortgage and beer belly by 23 than to shack up with artists who might make awkward social situations what with the dating multiple women and other such unspeakables
mircea_popescu: basically they stumbled on metaphysics. very comfortable, all this.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes such a disjunction was originally predicated re hackers and hipsters. guess what - 20 years healed the rift.
mircea_popescu: there's no reasonable expectation that 2017 "hacker" can add ; there'll be no reasonable expectation that 2040 "artist" can fuck, or locomote.
ben_vulpes: in my experience the hipsters now live 3 to a room and the corporate "senior javascript engineers" have the mortgages
mircea_popescu: they'll live shut in their art. ftw!
mircea_popescu: maybe the problem is just senescent myopia, i fail to distinguish a hipster from a web designer from a "backend engineer" from an etc.
ben_vulpes: no lykkin would ever think themselves a 'hacker' omfg, waste time soldering things together they can buy pre assembled?
mircea_popescu: yes, but would think self "artist". in fact... does.
ben_vulpes: we all know the alexas are relaying everything to the nsa's stats machines, "whatever, man, i just wanna get some more point on my steam collection"
mircea_popescu: and every tiresome hipster thinks himself at least a little hacker. reddit and wikipedia is practically a hax already yes ? LIFEHACKS!
ben_vulpes: eh, "ux expert" more likely to be a bad artist than js anything
ben_vulpes: ugh this thread is just comparing kinds of roaches
mircea_popescu: are you thinking "plastic artist" specifically, or do you include all the dorkage, "performance" etc ?
ben_vulpes: i am self disgust
ben_vulpes: no the kinda guy who played in bands in his early twenties and then got hoovered into $deathcorp because he can string passable sentences together and shit out the odd mockup.
mircea_popescu: the words are, after all, pickup ARTIST.
ben_vulpes: and now paints, buys paintings, designs his remodels himself
asciilifeform: hunger artist
mircea_popescu: yeah, this would be "plastic artist", ie, painter. but there's also the you know, "performance artist", ie, tramp.
mircea_popescu: or however you call in english the hooker/pickpocket combo.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "hunger artist"?
asciilifeform: !~google the hunger artist
jhvh1: asciilifeform: SparkNotes: A Hunger Artist: <http://www.sparknotes.com/short-stories/a-hunger-artist/>; Kafka, A Hunger Artist - Vancouver Island University: <https://records.viu.ca/~Johnstoi/kafka/hungerartist.htm>; A Hunger Artist - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hunger_Artist>
mircea_popescu: how ~do~ you call it anyway ? the "hates men and capitalism" tomboy that'll beg and if desperate fuck for pay ? like that mentally ill nut with the "scum manifesto"
mircea_popescu: valerie solanas.
pete_dushenski: street urchin ?
asciilifeform: they're ~extinct, mircea_popescu , welfarism zapped'em
mircea_popescu: doesn't mean the word also has to go away
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski street urchin is devoid of secondary sexual characteristics.
asciilifeform: aha but filed with dodo.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: dats true. maybe street whore. or street slut.
pete_dushenski: the 'street' is definitely important in conveying the vagabondiness so associated with pickpockets
pete_dushenski: 'female aladdin' could work too
pete_dushenski: fambly friendly!
mircea_popescu: not really looking for new coinage.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: wtf is a lykkin ?
mircea_popescu: fan of the lykkin park band.
pete_dushenski: lol
phf: a furry who's into werewolves?
mircea_popescu: lmao.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: thread http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657436 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 16:34 ben_vulpes: we call these "lykkins"
mircea_popescu: you know, i'm sorry to rain on anyone's parade, but this "skeptic" "post structuralist gender theory" piece is perfectly fine from said perspective. makes fine sense to me. the whole exercise is not so different from "proving" that, eg, newton letters are "pompous" and "improper discourse" because a) he uses a lot of symbols and purpose-made constructs and b) some of the stuff it says is counterintuitive to the layman. with a
mircea_popescu: n added c) it is coherent with the rest of the crap his nutty mathematician friends do, so clearly that's the only reason they say "they can tell the lion by his claw".
ben_vulpes: the part where it passes peer review with wholly fabricated citations is pretty funny though!
ben_vulpes: reviewers ask for more examples, authors literally make more up. "oh okay! much better."
mircea_popescu: there is that.
mircea_popescu: but this sort of bureaucratic scribble is very much not in the vein the matter is taken. nobody's seriously interested in the fact that citations are bullshit -- they're bullshit throughout and this is by and large accepted and deemed acceptable as seen by the whole http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-05#1637747 thing ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 14:25 mircea_popescu: this is usually included by the shorthand string "bibliography"
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's significant linkage between eg "If you’re having trouble understanding what any of that means, there are two important points to consider. First, we don’t understand it either. Nobody does. This problem should have rendered it unpublishable in all peer-reviewed, academic journals." and, picking randomly, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-19#1646034 / J. Michael Bailey lulz. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 15:38 mircea_popescu: incidentally, alf is correct on one point : there is a painful spot in the history of psychology (the pseudoscience). let us delve :
mircea_popescu: his position was ~same : this shit makes no sense to me, shouldn't make any sense to you, and in any case should have no temples (ie, public expenditure).
mircea_popescu: this is fine, except the jews dun care.
mircea_popescu: every religion is similar to every other in the fundamental points that a) it is only accessible to the "initiated", the bar for which is never so low as to not demand the subject WANTING TO get it and b) public expenditure (not necessarily in the shape of coin) is not driven by any sort of efficiency paradigm.
mircea_popescu: now, obviously the protest will be "but mp, your example with newton is scandalous, math is a fucking science". yes, it is. in theory. in practice it is not, as far as every non-practician is concerned math is a religion by definition, and what's worse -- even as far as brilliant practicians are concerned! because what else do you make of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659407 than "i am fine with interacting with math qua ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 20:22 asciilifeform: ( summary : 0**0 != 1 would make expansion of taylor series a bitch )
mircea_popescu: religion for as long as it doesn't actually get in the way of what i'm trying to do right now".
mircea_popescu: then again newton himself was not so very impressed with math ; certainly not impressed enough to favour it above his religious studies.
asciilifeform: b. pascal, even less impressed...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: describe plox what NOT 'interact with math-qua-religion' might look like
mircea_popescu: in fact, the "being impressed with science" thing is rather ~same blather as "being impressed with state", recent gaselnita.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can show by quote. http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Aascii+cryptography
mircea_popescu: "i dun care what you fucking idiots say, show me the proof of this, the logic of that, who counted these beans, wtf are you doing!"
phf: we have periodic threads on scientism also, "i fucking love science", dawkins army, scientific realism, etc.
mircea_popescu: we do.
mircea_popescu: in any case, before getting angry and taking a hatchet to the b) above, consider that the possiblity of loving a woman is strictly dependent on, you've guessed it, public expenditure not following efficiency paradigm.
asciilifeform: which one gets to fuck 'under efficiency paradigm', is one of the main diff b/w the pig and the farmer
deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-volume-2 << CH - Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 2
mircea_popescu: rather.
phf: !#vulpe
phf: !#vulpes
a111: JUST UN FUCKING KINK IT
shinohai: !#vulpes
a111: a BUILDING full of feeble minded liberals
shinohai: ghehehehe