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asciilifeform: trinque: i'll admit that i dun really buy the 'pushing' angle. if anything it's the mcdonaldizers and walmartizers, star topology creators, who create the demand for opiums
asciilifeform: ( observe that for hole punching, the 'server' does not need to be a heavy duty box that sits as 'star topology apex', but can be any of one or more boxes among the nodes themselves , at a particular time, with external ip. )
asciilifeform: ( to nitpick, yes the heathens have a scenario where it still does something, where everybody has 'star topology' 'wot' consisting of the greatinca. but to call this 'meaningful' is a stretch. )
BingoBoingo: 2.7 million in Chiraq proper, and 10 million in metro area. Skyscrapers empty, but ghettos full. Chicago has a full "star" mass transit topology, shrinks precieved size of city.
asciilifeform: my objection is that the star topology does not go away by virtue of being called something else. you have a class of fully-capable nodes, S, that can accept unsolicited pipes; and a much larger class of P ( lessay, peons ), behind NAT, who cannot. ergo stars.
asciilifeform: so the star topology is still there.
asciilifeform: games connect to an un-natted central (star topology) box
asciilifeform: hey, beelzebub burned the great-inca-star-topology into his bios in the womb
asciilifeform: aaha. ye olde star topology, is the goal. all interactions via Great Inca strictly.
mod6: once fully sync'd they both could be masters ; helping avoid star topology.
asciilifeform: ( ideally this won't end up a star topology around this 1 poor box !! )
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 'we' are mitigating against the star topology in all sorts of stupid and entertaining ways
asciilifeform: on read directly from LPC out of band to an attacker, e.g. over Bluetooth... In a nutshell, LPC Guard™ converts the traditional monolithic shared LPC bus topology into a pseudo-star topology, then masks sensitive data transmissions involving a single peripheral from all remaining peripherals on the bus. The bus control device central to this technology is securely connected to the LPC master onboard the CPU or southbridge device, w
a111: 13 results for "star topology", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=star%20topology
asciilifeform: !#s star topology
asciilifeform: it's the only stratagem the inca is capable of: the 'star topology'
asciilifeform: they gotta impose the star topology.
asciilifeform: and eventually devolves to the usual 'star topology'.
asciilifeform: folks who do not fall into one of these clans, end up in the inca's star topology and get raped.
asciilifeform: star topology.
mircea_popescu: (likbez #2 : ant colony, nature's finest example of star topology, is for this reason uniquely bad example for the (correctly defined) "complex system". the boom-bust cycle of rabbits and other small rodents much better examples. complex systems are made of like parts, not worker-queen sorta nonsense.)
asciilifeform: and that the star topology of telecom - is enforced.
asciilifeform: this forces a star topology.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incompatible with 'star topology' !!!
asciilifeform: my understanding is that mircea_popescu sees the difference as a 'balls', 'blood & iron' matter of personal courage. whereas it is slightly gnarlier, pashtun has his family->clan->tribe healthy human thing going, eskimo likewise, usian - has the 'star topology' with the Great Inca at the center and ~nothing else~ but own sorry carcass.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's no such actual thing as flatgraph - only star topology with thinly disguised star.
fluffypony: http://network-communications.blogspot.com/2011/06/network-topology-star-bus-mesh-ring.html <- memories of networking in 1997
fluffypony: 10Base-T coax, star topology?