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pete_dushenski: " SW in particular has a number of strong benefits but also alters fundamental code that underpins billions of dollars in value. For this reason we have sympathy with the proposal that it be implemented in Litecoin first. After a period of 6 to 12 months SW could then be applied to Bitcoin, incorporating any lessons learned." << why not experiment with eth ? dao ? c-ripple even ? digging up ltc corpse is
trilema-webchat: my client #17 says : "i am the real dao attacker"
deedbot: [Qntra] DAO Is Empty Again - http://qntra.net/2016/07/dao-is-empty-again/
shinohai: http://archive.is/mYLLJ <<< "You may have noticed that the DAO is empty again."
a111: Logged on 2016-07-10 00:29 asciilifeform: 'Why the DAO robber could very well return the ETH on July 14th' << pass the lsd.
asciilifeform: 'Why the DAO robber could very well return the ETH on July 14th' << pass the lsd. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: incidentally, here's an ~actual~ bit of post-bitcoin governance being tried out etc. with institutions and mechanisms and whatnot. of course, the usual fucktards, the nullities that spent a million words discussing "the dao" and "futublabla" and so on will never EVER mention it.
PumpBTC: dao has like 95% of it issuance with 5 people
shinohai: The DAO 2.0 - Flaming tire in a shitpit, now with corn!
shinohai: fuckin dao up 19.22%
phf: asciilifeform: lobste.rs uses iching symbols for some unknown internal reasons which i don't have inclination of investigating. somewhere on par with calling a currency "etherium" and a corporation "dao". way to corner those timeless symbols gaiz
mircea_popescu: i mean zen-dao, whatevers
asciilifeform: 'One thing a lot of pro-fork people don't realize is that they're basically encouraging a very damaging form of speculation on the value of ETH. Because a hard fork promises to return ETH at a rate of < 100 DAO per ETH, it encourages people to buy up large amounts of DAO tokens at their current rates (> 100 DAO per ETH), and then actively advocate for the fork to happen. Last time I checked, this guarantees them a profit of > 30% (in
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the terms of http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/#comment-117957 it is "more like car".
mircea_popescu: goes so neatly with "the dao".
shinohai: What's with this eth/dao surge in price, did butterin float more usd into the mess?
thestringpuller: so isn't it a bit odd that Slock.It is refusing to release the security audit of The DAO? It really looks as if this is straight up MtGox 2.0. Pretty sure someone inside slock.it hacked the DAO and got a huge payoff.
shinohai: https://github.com/ethcore/parity/pull/1483/files The dao is still down -12.19 %. Here's a provisional hard fork to make it all better.
shinohai: Ethereum: -11.73 % The DAO: -17.88 %
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4q9ewf/ethereums_dao_wars_soft_fork_is_a_potential_dos/d4r8060 << sauce for given quote
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://urbit.org/blog/dao << riot of lulz
mircea_popescu: in other somewhat lulz, https://etherchain.org/statistics/dao
mircea_popescu: segwit is EXACTLY "dao for bitcoin".
mircea_popescu: you been watching the dao thing ?
mircea_popescu: which is what it aims to be, a sort of "let's dao bitcoin"
asciilifeform: (for anyone not tuned in, 'white hat attacker' was the me-too draining of the remaining dao by buterin et al)
Framedragger: from reddit, "The DAO hacker gives an interview" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O5fdMFKEC0 (works for me as i don't understand spanish)
asciilifeform: 'I’ve heard reports that the first part of Vitalik’s fork proposal has already happened: miners have frozen the funds taken from the DAO with a soft-fork, which means that miners are blacklisting any transaction that moves those funds, as well as refusing to mine on top of blocks containing transactions moving those funds. That’s not very hard to do as - like Bitcoin - Ethereum mining is sufficiently centralized that it only ta
shinohai: https://petertodd.org/2016/ethereum-dao-bailout-vote <<< "Democracy is the only way people!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: linked for the gold nugget: 'It also suggested the creation of a register for smart autonomous robots, which would link each one to funds established to cover its legal liabilities.' << dao!11111111
a111: Logged on 2016-06-22 12:55 thestringpuller: the original dao is drained. but the attacker split into the whitehat child dao, so he can now start attacking
mircea_popescu: gernika how'd a retraction work, you know ? think of the dao!
shinohai: Someone likes pouring money into the dao, back up 30.15 %
thestringpuller: the original dao is drained. but the attacker split into the whitehat child dao, so he can now start attacking ☟︎
thestringpuller: they have like 30 different "attack contracts" ready to deploy against the dao (again allegedly)
thestringpuller: well the attacker went in and started attacking the "safe child dao"
thestringpuller: the white hats drained the original dao and "proclaimed it safe"
thestringpuller: okay so dao is getting attacked again
mircea_popescu: it's not the dao that's fucked. on the battlefield of the future, which is right here, the usg.vc idiots got raped and their bowels strung out to dry on fences, and now the hot core of usgism, mit & cornell and all are fighting for dear life
Bugpowder: I have to admit, I don’t know wtf is going on with Ether, I stopped paying attention to it January 26, 2014 (last email on topic). So I just blindly concur with Emin when he says DAO is fucked.
mircea_popescu: in absolutely-not-worth-anyone-s-time non-lulz & butthurt, https://pdaian.com/blog/chasing-the-dao-attackers-wake/#comment-25 <-> https://archive.is/y519j#selection-1795.0-1807.26
thestringpuller: so they hacked the DAO again and are "coming for the attacker".
thestringpuller: LULZ: https://pdaian.com/blog/chasing-the-dao-attackers-wake/#comment-17
thestringpuller: so its a race to freeze the dao or buterin and slock.it are at war with someone smarter than them
mircea_popescu: https://pdaian.com/blog/chasing-the-dao-attackers-wake/#comment-16 << lol, 16th comment. so guy made his blog because he hopes to rescue the shitcoin
mircea_popescu: in other superlulz, Emin Gün Sirer : "If the ETH community bails out the DAO (and I believe they should), we need to put in place a social wall around Slockit to avoid a repeat."
tfoxbrewster: yes. the Ethereum guys are suggesting that the claim you took the ether - http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/#selection-27.210-27.224 - is untrue.
thestringpuller: when is the dao attacker gonna cause more drama. today has been boooring.
mircea_popescu: https://pdaian.com/blog/chasing-the-dao-attackers-wake/ << the guy has correctly identified ~a~ 2nd vulnerability there.
mircea_popescu: http://infocoin.net/2016/06/20/autor-del-ataque-del-dao-declara-que-sus-acciones-son-legales/
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4p0314/did_bruno_mars_know_about_the_dao_hack_years/
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 16:00 Framedragger: here's more of him on dao and sleeping with students http://techgenix.com/mathematics-ethereum-hack/
Framedragger: here's more of him on dao and sleeping with students http://techgenix.com/mathematics-ethereum-hack/ ☟︎
shinohai: https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/744914837126316032 <<< john mcaffe makes dao declaration
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/#comment-117655
shinohai: mit hates him! Learn how to rape the dao with this ONE SIMPLE TRICK!
shinohai: ETH: -8.26 % DAO: -13.45 %
mircea_popescu: while on that topic, perhaps mention worthy, http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/#comment-117654
thestringpuller: Okay, so CCO Stephan Tual is waking him off and tries to "do work", by creating slock.it. Slock it is a company who's flagship vaporware is the Slock connected to an "Ethereum Computer". The Slock is a lock based on a smart contract, that unlocks a door when someone pays enough Ether via a hub like AirBNB. So called making "rentals" automated. They release the DAO and pump that to crowdfund their computer. The DAO gets hacked and they
Framedragger: the additional ethereum from the child dao splits is teh leaked gravitational energy, something something
Framedragger: DAO is like some kind of flawed library of babel, collapsing in on itself in fractals
Framedragger: have to admit, kind of honestly exciting to watch DAO unravel this way
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo thanks, will make up for shitposting with something good when I can tune in something besides dao/ether noise.
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/#comment-117650
pete_dushenski: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4ot3z8/dao_is_under_attack_again/ << already covered ? from 8 hrs ago.
mircea_popescu: btw, why did the ethereum people misspell "dead on arrival" as "dao" anyway. too much ritalin ?
thestringpuller: he even had a dao proposal
asciilifeform: also wtf, buterin hired some imbecile to write the dao thing?!
asciilifeform: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/exclusive-full-interview-transcript-alleged-dao-attacker << moar lulz
mircea_popescu: in other somewhat-lolz, https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4op7eb/mircea_popescu_to_the_dao_and_the_ethereum/d4eg61b
thestringpuller: enforce the soft fork, and let the dao holder suffer.
mircea_popescu: and in further lulz installments, http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/#comment-117593
shinohai: ETH: -32.80 % DAO: -49.42 %
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4oovpi/to_the_dao_and_the_ethereum_community/ << in other lulz.
deedbot: [Trilema] To the DAO and the Ethereum community : Fuck you. - http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/
mircea_popescu: for BingoBoingo's own lulz collection : http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/
shinohai: "Practically, this should mark the end of The DAO. The SlockIt folks should work hard to dismantle the fund and return the coins back to the investors in as orderly a fashion as possible.'
mircea_popescu: doing the martyred saint etherea of the dao!
shinohai: dao -34.34 % <<< another 10% since this morning
thestringpuller: anyone making a killing on shorting eth/dao today?
thestringpuller: LOL: 1/2 "Thief" now probably coordinating an effort to oppose the hardfork that would see the DAO token holders getting their ETH back
shinohai: I woke up this morning and died laughing when i saw dao "b/c"
shinohai: totally looks fine here, cuz we said so https://blog.slock.it/deja-vu-dao-smart-contracts-audit-results-d26bc088e32e
asciilifeform: https://blog.slock.it/no-dao-funds-at-risk-following-the-ethereum-smart-contract-recursive-call-bug-discovery-29f482d348b#.mida5o6vz << 5 days ago
thestringpuller: "Dao will only be able to withdrawal after hard fork"
thestringpuller: so they are going to now wind down teh dao?
asciilifeform: 'So there is a recursive payout 'problem'? No there isn't. It was all in the specification. When the DAO was fund raising, it was explicit that the only thing that mattered was the DAO's contract code. Nothing else should be taken as being reliable. Well, the contract code is still operating exactly as it was specified. A 'hacker' is merely using the code in ways that were there to see, should anyone have looked. How can they be stea
asciilifeform: lul, the eth thing is finally burning down, https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4oif2x/dao_attack_exchanges_please_pause_eth_and_dao and buterin nailed the exists shut
shinohai: "Vitalik tries to switch ethereum to PoV (proof-of-vitalik) in an attempt to save a sinking DAO"
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-17#1483865 <<< I do believe this accurately portrays the state of ethereum and the dao this morning. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: pity it has no dao.
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDao/comments/4k6kbm/dao_20_as_the_first_proposal_to_get_funding/ Let's build version 2.0 of a buggy moneypit! :D
terminal2: Migrating a DAO off of ethereum would not be an easy thing to do in most cases
assbot: Mega Bit-Billions (my original DAO idea) | Blockchain for the Billions ... ( http://bit.ly/14QMoOj )
nubbins`: http://rywalk.wordpress.com/2014/11/20/mega-bit-billions-my-original-dao-idea/
mircea_popescu: "master, how to learn dao ?" "read a coupla lines on it" "which ones ?" "yes"
BingoBoingo: work and will be a godsend to the 3rd world. For instance, a person with a reliable DAO (or smart
ThickAsThieves: who suggested DAO system on Ethereum
BingoBoingo: Preston has so much derp http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/04/22/the-ballad-of-doug-the-dao-part-1-time-to-stop-thinking-like-an-engineer/
herbijudlestoids: whats the use case for the DAO?