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mircea_popescu: takes me all of half an hour to organize a 10%
chargeback pile, which is the immediate end, for isntance.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: it is actually nice to consider that all that paypal moneys i received for bitcoin in -otc were not
chargeback'd. it's a nice feeling. but i suppose that's chiefly because 1) i hadn't done that many transactions, and 2) amounts were low...
phf: asciilifeform: banks don't have to close the account, and if your account has been linked to visa, they have to keep it mandatory open for the duration of something like 10 years from your last transaction, which is how long visa network can claim a
chargeback BingoBoingo: * mircea_popescu recalls the lulzier years in 2011-2012 back when roger ver was actually pretending to be like, a business man, and stuff. << NEver forget $50 Blockchain.info
chargeback because Ver's sticky hands were in all the things then
adlai: they let me withdraw fiat to a bank account,
chargeback happened, i tried topping up the account with cc because aforementioned bank account was unavailable... and once the last cc charge went through, they locked the account
cazalla: who eats the
chargeback? apple?
austeritysucks: unfortunately credit cards all have
chargeback, and until people can acquire bitcoins with creditcards at point of sale to remove the buyer from the "confusion" of the payment mechanism
kakobrekla: myea its worse than it thought this. a well, lucky for them btc has no
chargeback!
mircea_popescu: <guevara246> the rationale being applied to
chargeback and fraud < yes.
guevara246: the rationale being applied to
chargeback and fraud
mike_c: call bitcoin and initiate a
chargeback.
kakobrekla: zillabtc that doesnt work cause
chargeback policies.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: he tried to
chargeback after it shipped
mircea_popescu: just the fact that nobody can
chargeback you and pp can't hold your wallet at ransom and that;s enough for anyone sane.
joecool: ie. if i walk into a store with a stolen magstripe you don't know i have, i can purchase goods and even if there's a
chargeback, it only claws back from the store those goods were bought at
deadweasel: nubbins`: after you
chargeback, cancel the card and link them to your posts.
jcpham: woohoo
chargeback!. talk with your monies
nubbins`: i'm giving them one more chance before i issue a
chargeback mircea_popescu: punkman " Visa and MasterCard levy fines against acquiring banks that retain merchants with high
chargeback frequency. "
punkman: the
chargeback fines are paid to whoever is processing the merchant's transactions
benkay: "what ever will we do with our
chargeback fraud department?"
jurov: "Butterfly Labs can now ship this merchandise with confidence that there will be no reversibility or
chargeback of the payment, which is a significant risk when accepting credit cards online or PayPal,” said Gallippi.
jimmy2k: yeah friday of last week was the
chargeback of the money from the first transaction
ozbot: 22000 USD SCAM because of Phishing and Bank Transfer
Chargeback [\]: why would he paypal
chargeback if he was accepting your money?
jcpham: but then he did a paypal
chargeback punkman: yes the merchant gets a fine for each
chargeback ezdiy: punkman: sure the
chargeback dont get through, the fraud rate is like 0.1-3% tops
mircea_popescu: there is no system in this world with 20%
chargeback rates. either you have a working system and chargebacks are a fraction of a percent
ezdiy: we shall assume same
chargeback rates
punkman: you can't have 20%
chargeback rate, they shut you down
ezdiy: mircea_popescu:
chargeback rates
Namworld: they apparently won a
chargeback... apparently...
pigeons: and not a lot of difference if you lose money in a hack or in a
chargeback jcpham: basic got
chargeback'd
pigeons: so basic isn't doing striaght up refunds, you have to
chargeback?
jcpham: never said the word bitcoin on
chargeback dispute for btcfpga.com
Bugpowder: With regard to BTC refunds, I have sent all refund requests to Tom for processing. I have also processed all credit card refund requests at this time. I can't guarantee that the funds were there to back these refunds - I have no way to know this, and Tom never confirmed having done the bank transfer. At this point, if you are thinking of sending me a refund request, I recommend you do a
chargeback instead.
MrTiggr: no
chargeback and not really very tracable