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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26284 @ 0.00092551 = 24.3261 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0388898 = 0.1944 BTC [+]
dub: sadly -assets, your fish pie will never be as good as mine
nubbins`: ;(
Mats_cd03: gross
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0388899 = 0.1556 BTC [+]
dub: sounds like someone that has never had dub's fish pie
dub: I could IPO this fukcing pie
dub: if you spent 10k BTC on this pie in 2011 you'd still be feeling good about the deal
dub: if obamacare was this pie, mircea would be signing up for that shit
kakobrekla: here is a little know fact; http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2926533
assbot: TubeChop - The Computer Chronicles - Programming Languages (1990) (00:24)
dub: use computer erryday
Mats_cd03: not a big fan of seafood
Mats_cd03: all the fish in the sea can choke to death on acid as far as im concerned
dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oabRxvjf9k
assbot: Dr. Timothy Leary explains his MIND MIRROR computer program. - YouTube
benkay: what's the name for the bitcoin architecture of cryptocurrencies?
Mats_cd03: supa hot fiyaaaa
dub: sounds a bit like lopher? :)
dub thinks benkay's been using the computer
kakobrekla: lel
benkay: how would one draw a distinction between, say Ethereum, Bitcoin and Monero?
benkay: lexically, that is.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48250 @ 0.00092537 = 44.6491 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0975 = 0.2925 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: this is your chance to coin a phrase
Mats_cd03: dub: dude's cooked out of his mind
dub goes in on some more fish pie
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]
dub: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=625193.0
assbot: DayBitTrader Soft Announcement
dub: prediction: all will end well
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: fish pie productions ?
mircea_popescu: i mean predictions
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00010224 = 0.1022 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.03800006 = 0.304 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 32 @ 0.03789375 = 1.2126 BTC [-] {3}
dub: they say fish is brain food
mircea_popescu: gotta have a brain first :D
[]bot: Bet created: "X.EUR contract monthly renewal canceled in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/867/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0975 = 0.975 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: dub where have you been?
thestringpuller: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.00092061 = 25.0866 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.0189743 = 0.1708 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: !up random_cat
benkay: hey thar
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12001 @ 0.0009198 = 11.0385 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15118 @ 0.00092111 = 13.9253 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00092382 = 17.0445 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: benkay: is weed legal where you live?
benkay: kinda irrelevant...
benkay: i do a lot of illegal things.
benkay: but no. across the river, though...
benkay: !up tokyopotato
tokyopotato: take me to the river...
tokyopotato: dip me in the water... xD
benkay: ;;gettrust tokyopotato
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user tokyopotato: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=tokyopotato | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=tokyopotato | Rated since: never
tokyopotato: We have such an awesome in-depth piece on the Dark Wallet coming out. I can't wait to share it with you guys, we should have it finished over the next couple days @ CoinJoint
benkay: oh quit spamming tokyopotato
tokyopotato: lol
thestringpuller: Dark Wallet?
thestringpuller: Dark Net?
benkay: browserwallet?
benkay: anathema!
tokyopotato: lol
thestringpuller: Bowser Wallet
thestringpuller: you should sell that to Nintendo
tokyopotato: Luigi wallet
tokyopotato: Luigi>Mario
tokyopotato: assbot
tokyopotato: nice
benkay: !t h rent
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00558000 / 0.00561954 / 0.00588990 (18 shares, 0.10115176 BTC), 7D: 0.00558000 / 0.00580697 / 0.00622490 (1203 shares, 6.98578369 BTC), 30D: 0.00532500 / 0.00625411 / 0.00750000 (8256 shares, 51.63390120 BTC)
random_cat: 'sup benkay?
toffoo: niceee ... hot shaved lesbos posing with their mining gear on reddit today: http://i.imgur.com/kKzomyS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZGfwDSo.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FCmTso1.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.0192279 = 0.2884 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.04954094 = 0.1486 BTC [-]
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/btcguild-bans-accounts/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=btcguild-bans-accounts
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/block-data-added/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=block-data-added
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/live-streaming-trade-data-added/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=live-streaming-trade-data-added
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/05/02/building-bitcoin-0-7-2-on-openbsd/
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/mark-karpeles-trendon-shavers/
penguirker: New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/05/02/yo-bitcoin-assets-i-put-contrarianism-in-your-contrarianism/
penguirker: New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/i-wear-what-suits-you/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.4722906 = 8.0289 BTC [-] {4}
fluffypony: penguirker is confused
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.03886392 = 0.3886 BTC [+] {2}
artifexd: toffoo: You want esd? 'Cause that's how you get esd.
Mats_cd03: bcoinnews is trash what is this
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 449.86965777 BTC. Current weight: 49,995.
Mats_cd03: which asset-er is responsible? step your game up
Mats_cd03: pankkake: http://imgur.com/QzjqWFG on Firefox29, wat is goin on in these boxes
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
Mats_cd03: http://untainted.svbtle.com/exploiting-windows-dep-for-stealth-breakpoints
assbot: Exploitation of Windows DEP to Implement Stealth Breakpoints
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47251378 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47251378 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2014/05/vehicle-sales-forecasts-over-16-million.html
assbot: Calculated Risk: Vehicle Sales Forecasts: Over 16 Million SAAR in May
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9063 @ 0.00092224 = 8.3583 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18911 @ 0.000922 = 17.4359 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47252067 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47200636 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4725 = 0.945 BTC [+] {2}
davout: good morning
jurov: hi davout
fluffypony: davout: morning
fluffypony: davout: so now that bitcoin-central is going to cease to exist in its current form, does that mean the bet is a yes?
jurov: afaik it will just continue as pyamium
jurov: pamium
jurov: paymum
jurov: argh
fluffypony: yes - but the bet was specific, no?
jurov: i bet that it will be decided in other way as the iOS one :D
Apocalyptic: as formulated the bet is tied to the domain Bitcoin-central.net
fluffypony: I was under that impression too
punkman: I don't see why a simple name change is a problem
jurov: no it only says about end of operations or low volume
jurov: neither is the case
jurov: and since the domain itself will be redirected to paymium where you can log in with your old creds
jurov: i don't see any reason to close it as No
Apocalyptic: <jurov> and since the domain itself will be redirected to paymium where you can log in with your old creds // you have a point
pankkake: I agree with jurov. redirect + nothing else changes
pankkake: but that's not up to us, is it? :)
jurov: http://bitbet.us/bet/867/x-eur-contract-monthly-renewal-canceled-in-2014/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc but this got my attention
assbot: BitBet - X.EUR contract monthly renewal canceled in 2014 :: 0.44 B (88%) on Yes, 0.06 B (12%) on No | closing in 7 months 4 days | weight: 99`895 (100`000 to 1)
jurov: why would davout do it? AML?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.47210005 = 0.9442 BTC [-] {2}
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 88(Y):12(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.69632357 BTC. Current weight: 99,515.
punkman: jurov, maybe because there is so little volume
jurov: that needs time ( and margin ;) )
davout: :)
punkman: !d m x.eur
punkman: too many bots to remember :/
davout: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00234873 / 0.00234873 / 0.00234873 (714 shares, 1.68 BTC), 7D: 0.00234873 / 0.00261468 / 0.00303014 (5250 shares, 13.73 BTC), 30D: 0.0019005 / 0.00277485 / 0.00328679 (7874 shares, 21.85 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.472 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.472 = 1.888 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: <jurov> and since the domain itself will be redirected to paymium where you can log in with your old creds // you have a point < he does not. someone can hax bcentral, steal the logins, redirect it to some x site using the stolen logins. would fit description.
Apocalyptic: it would kako
Apocalyptic: doesn't contradict the fact he has a point imo
Apocalyptic: the bet clearly states "Bitcoin-central.net will cease exchanging BTC [...]"
Apocalyptic: not Bitcoin-Central as an entity
kakobrekla: "redirect to another url and login with same info" is worth 0.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30277 @ 0.00091915 = 27.8291 BTC [-] {4}
Apocalyptic: the bet should have then read (The Bitcoin-Central trading platform, currently hosted on bitcoin-central.net, will cease exchanging...)
kakobrekla: shoulda woulda coulda
pankkake: :( specifiying bets is hard
Apocalyptic: it is
pankkake: "Satoshi Nakamoto to win Nobel Prize in Economics in 2014" lol
xmj: lol
davout: kakobrekla: bitch please, gpg-signed statement
davout: :D
kakobrekla: ;)
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day" http://bitbet.us/bet/677/ Odds: 88(Y):12(N) by coin, 82(Y):18(N) by weight. Total bet: 128.11816472 BTC. Current weight: 10,792.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0001663 = 0.1663 BTC [+]
pankkake: !up Quanttek
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00091983 = 13.3835 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00450095 = 0.4501 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00091806 = 11.4298 BTC [-] {2}
dexX7: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/huobi/btccny hm lol
assbot: Huobi BTC/CNY Charts - BitcoinWisdom
jurov: "redirect it to some x site using the stolen logins. would fit description." how so?
jurov: 1. they'd need to keep volume till bet closes
jurov: 2. there'd be official announcement from b-c
kakobrekla: nah
kakobrekla: i open bitcoin-central and see some porn site, i login with my bc login and it works
jurov: and how would pr0n site avoid tripping on these two conditions?
kakobrekla: just saying that "go to the url and login and see if it works" is shitty argument
jurov: it does *not* wotk as the bet says
jurov: whereas b-c -> paymium will fullfill the bet conditions
jurov: what if paymium will be fullscreen iframe in bitcoin-central.net ? what now?
kakobrekla: ;;google bongwater what if
gribble: Bongwater - What If? - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKdVLQENSw>; iTunes - Music - Bongwater: <https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/bongwater/id153598278>; Box of Bongwater - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_of_Bongwater>
jurov: heh. but the point stands, it is the equvalent of redirect and it's actually one of unfavorable memories of mine as sysadmin
kakobrekla: <jurov> 1. they'd need to keep volume till bet closes < can you verify the volume is true?
jurov: can you do it now, while it is b-c?
kakobrekla: exactly.
jurov: not many complaints, so it's generally accepted as non-fake
kakobrekla: so at what complaint-rate is it not generally accepted as non-fake?
jurov: maybe davout bribes erryone, what do we know
jurov: i'd say 100kB/day
kakobrekla: plain or rich text?
davout: kakobrekla: bc was a fake all along, having never provably started it can therefore not provably stop operating, and its volume has always been imaginary, therefore it can't drop, therefore bet resolves as 'No'
jurov: well, that's actually for bitbet to set the limit... and if memepics are to be included, too
kakobrekla: thanks for the clarification davout .
jurov: i can vouch they sent me completely imaginary euros to my account
kakobrekla: ;)
jurov: later :)
kakobrekla: cya
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00091683 = 14.6693 BTC [-] {3}
fluffypony: yo dawg, I herd you like bread: http://i.imgur.com/3ik6D37.jpg
BigBitz: lol, fluffypony.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15421 @ 0.00092259 = 14.2273 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: here, my unpopular fellas, http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2928656
assbot: TubeChop - The Computer Chronicles - Slowdown in Silicon Valley #2 (1985) (00:19)
fluffypony needs a whisky and it's only 1:35pm
fluffypony: oh well, beer it is
mircea_popescu: o hei
mircea_popescu: apparently i found the only decent connection in all of ba
fluffypony: ohaaai
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 83 @ 0.00458 = 0.3801 BTC [+] {2}
davout: heil
mircea_popescu: how goes paris davout ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2579 @ 0.00092409 = 2.3832 BTC [+]
davout: rainy
davout: not enough sun, not enough skirts
mircea_popescu: o boy.
mircea_popescu: they don't do skirts here either, they think it's winter and muy muy frio.
mircea_popescu: you should see the chicks huddled up in heavy duty winter wear
mircea_popescu: meanwhile it's... 16. the wind is moreover pleasant. i don't even wear an overcoat.
davout: you're in turkey, right?
mircea_popescu: nah, argentina
davout: k got confused with the istanbul thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.00555054 = 0.1388 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: i know, kinda why i put it there :d
mircea_popescu: !up breadboard
breadboard: thanks mircea_popescu
breadboard: have anyone seen moiety around recently?
mircea_popescu: yw
mircea_popescu: you can give her a call.
pankkake: I like it when it's slightly cold and rainy
davout: kakobrekla should put the phone number in the topic
fluffypony: kakobrekla thinks it's too circle-jerky to do that
davout: fluffypony: lol
mircea_popescu: he srsly should tho.
mircea_popescu: this is absurd, calling a woman on the phone is jerky ? that's the anti-jerky.
moiety: I'm unsure who just called me
mircea_popescu: moiety, maybe breadboard ?
mircea_popescu: pankkake, it's not even rainy. just river-y.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]
davout: "set chan to +m, nobody bats an eye, suggest the phone number be added to the topic : TOO CIRCLE JERKY"
mircea_popescu: +m isn't circlejerky you heretic
mircea_popescu: it just silences people unaculturated to bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: :D
mircea_popescu: moiety, did you ever see this one http://i.imgur.com/LmbZqvV.jpg
BigBitz: it spams the WoT :)
mircea_popescu: lol who ? wut ?
BigBitz: the +m
pankkake: it adds entries like "#bitcoin-assets +m"?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: doesn't have a purpose or an intent or a role. it simply is << ever play the '80s game 'M.U.L.E.' ? << no i haven't. for my shame and to my detriment, it turns out!
mircea_popescu: oh i see.
mircea_popescu: well, i would argue it is not spamming it in that it actually reflects both trust and political intent. which is what the wot does.
pankkake: looking at my ratings, I should probably have more >1
BigBitz: It's more akin to spamming than a reflection of trust, really.
BigBitz: there are lots of +1 Assets +v ratings.
BigBitz: do they /actually/ trust each other or do they just want a +v ? :)
fluffypony: ;;gettrust pankkake
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask pankkake!~anus@inara.p.engu.in. Trust relationship from user fluffypony to user pankkake: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=fluffypony&dest=pankkake | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pankkake | Rated since: Thu Jun 6 12:07:25 2013
mircea_popescu: pankkake, i've noticed there's a hard wall where people who are trustworthy and well known but who don't do anything major are about 1.x on average, even if over 100 raqtings
mircea_popescu: you need to do something to climb
fluffypony: "has OCD and is a clown. do not do business"
fluffypony: lawlz
BigBitz: ;;gettrust pankkake
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask pankkake!~anus@inara.p.engu.in. Trust relationship from user BigBitz to user pankkake: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BigBitz&dest=pankkake | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pankkake | Rated since: Thu Jun 6 12:07:25 2013
pankkake: I meant the ratings I created, not the ones I received
mircea_popescu: BigBitz, well, they trust each other enough to v. you ever read http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ btw ?
assbot: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
pankkake: I don't really have a reason to get good ratings
mircea_popescu: pankkake, well so that you need to tell yourself then :D
pankkake: yes, I talk to myself
pankkake: :)
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins` canada looks scarier and scarier.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: ;;rated pankkake
gribble: You have not yet rated user pankkake
fluffypony: oh noez
davout: ;;rated pankkake
gribble: You have not yet rated user pankkake
davout: pankkake: come have coffee, get a rating
fluffypony: ;;rate pankkake 1 The Trolliest Troll of Trollsville. Keeps people in line on Bitcointalk.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user pankkake has been recorded.
BigBitz: pankkake is on ratings watch :)
pankkake: lol
BigBitz: pankkake +BTN rating :D
pankkake: I'm adding one to most of my sent ratings right now
fluffypony: ;;rated mircea_popescu
gribble: You have not yet rated user mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: ;;rated fluffypony
gribble: You have not yet rated user fluffypony
mircea_popescu: wtf.
fluffypony: ;;rate mircea_popescu 1 dons a dapper suit whilst dishing out devilish advice and Bitcoins
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: i was sure i rated you what is this
pankkake: ;;rate fluffypony 1 who wouldn't trust a pony
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user fluffypony has been recorded.
fluffypony: LOL
mircea_popescu: ;;rate fluffypony 1 I don't know him but his wife sends me selfies.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user fluffypony has been recorded.
fluffypony: hah hah
pankkake: nice
mircea_popescu: talk about spamming the wot. that thing didn't have so much lulz in it since it was formed.
fluffypony: ;;rate assbot 1 the A in assbot stands for AMAZING
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user assbot has been recorded.
BigBitz: lol
davout: have you guys been following the ripple circus?
mircea_popescu: no ?
BigBitz: Jed, lol.
davout: the current drama is quite lulzy
mircea_popescu: is the ripple circus rippling here ?
fluffypony: major dumping of XRP
fluffypony: 9 billion or so
BigBitz: It's lolerific.
mircea_popescu: may we please have a blow by blow of how the blow blows, mr frenchfry!
davout: mc caleb is dumping, jesse powell is resigning and pointing fingers
BigBitz: he claims he will dump 9billion but still don't see is anything.
mircea_popescu: aaaaahahahaha
fluffypony: cue lawyers letters to cease and desist saying anything about anyone or anything
mircea_popescu: AS IF this wasn't fucking predictable as farts at a bean soup convention
fluffypony: XRP value plummets to like 40% of what it was courtesy of the announcement
mircea_popescu: ok so that problem is finally resolved then, thankfully.
davout: "farts at a bean soup convention" <<< hahaha
chetty: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/26/epa-give-grants-fight-cooking-stove-pollution/
assbot: EPA to give grants to fight cooking stove pollution - Washington Times
mircea_popescu: well. "resolved" in the sense doge coin is resolved, buncha derps will be "investing" in it still because hey, they "love to invest when everyone panics" or how did that skinnkavaj line go.
mircea_popescu: chetty, if people only ate govt provided caserolles, how much better it'd be!
fluffypony: Dogecoin down to ~72 satoshis
mircea_popescu: it's overpriced.
fluffypony: now it's freeeeeeee, freeeeee falling
fluffypony: btw mircea_popescu did you read about the OpenRigs customer that is apparently a secret agent or have you not got to that part in the logs yet?
mircea_popescu: im stil lon 23rd, checking out moiety's cookies and wondering who the fuck this xjpg guy is.
chetty: mircea_popescu, I am sure we will soon be at the meal in a pill stage, chewing is probably bad for you
mircea_popescu: btw, wouldn't you be affraid of a woman that keeps making supercute dough things it then BITES THE HEADS OFF ?
mircea_popescu: arsenic and old lace like.
mircea_popescu: chetty, no cause free dentist health care. if you like your teeth you can keep your teeth,
mircea_popescu: but if you didn't have them you wouldn't eat steak which is bad for the environment,
mircea_popescu: so you know.
mircea_popescu: obtw, speaking of steak. i had some fucking INCREDIBLE steaks these past two days. i am fucking humbled, you can not begin to imagine the steaks in this fucking town. omfg.
chetty: no teeth, no biting the heads off :P
pankkake: free healthcare is more about free antidepressants and homeopathy, cheaper and keeps voters happy
mircea_popescu: chetty, btw, take you out for a steak ? we're meeting lospantalones at noonish
mircea_popescu: i gotta show you this place, it is insanity.
mircea_popescu: (and they make a point of writing o nthe door they take dollars at 11.5
mircea_popescu: i wanted to drop 200 bucks o nthem, but apparently it's only for what you eat lol)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.48497323 = 0.9699 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: oh sweet - mircea_popescu tell him I say hi
mircea_popescu: (for the interested public :argentina has a bit of an inflation problem, officially peso is 8.58 to the dollar, most anyone will take 9, generally you get about 11 from specialised exchangers. which are of course illegal, so there's five billion of them screaming in the streets - something the argentines don't do for anything else)
mircea_popescu: fluffypony, o you two know each other ?
fluffypony: only through here
mircea_popescu: ah k
BigBitz: you are in Argentina, mircea_popescu?
mircea_popescu: BigBitz, yep
BigBitz: nice... great food out there.
mircea_popescu: definitely.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`:
mircea_popescu: i came across a test scrap today and realized that i spelled the word "redeem" wrong on every single one <<< aaa-hahahaha. YOU NEED AN EDITOR!!1
BingoBoingo: LibXfont is fucking up everybody it seems http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140526075700
assbot: 5.5 Errata #006: X Font Service Protocol Erratum
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 579.5, Best ask: 582.48, Bid-ask spread: 2.98000, Last trade: 582.5, 24 hour volume: 12566.90246127, 24 hour low: 562.18, 24 hour high: 593.48, 24 hour vwap: 578.001570568
pankkake: I can't spell widthtdtrdraw
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, fonts. always the worst thing in any env.
mircea_popescu: lol accidentally weaponized comic sans dept. ok, gotta love that
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm not sure if they are the worst... Databases suck pretty bad.
mircea_popescu: yes but there you expect it.
mircea_popescu: fucking fonts yo uknow ?
chetty: BingoBoingo, well its beats 3x5 cards
pankkake: unfortunately serving custom web fonts is now all the rage
pankkake: they're even used in replacement of icons
pankkake: so disabling it makes some websites very ugly
mircea_popescu: moiety: I have been on 0 business trips. I used to work in a hospital lol << start saving for argentina next year ? :D
BingoBoingo: chetty: What's wrong with notecards. When I finally severed my last ties to Windows (Endnote X5), I simply migrated the citations database to cards.
mircea_popescu: pankkake, some websites i never use.
pankkake: github does :/ not that I really use it but it's ugly without
chetty: BingoBoingo, nothing wrong with cards, I used em for a very long time, still do for some stuff
mircea_popescu: assbot: Pigeon-feeders in Vienna to be fined 36 as part of city's crackdown on bird population << holy shit they're doing it right. fucking winged rats.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: Vacathon! << that's when you go on a cow tipping spree all over the world.
fluffypony: heh
BingoBoingo: Squab can be delicious, but I dunno if I could make the jump to eating dirty urban pigeons
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.0009174 = 2.5229 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: why don't they call it a PoCathon << ahaha you're one step off getting your own nbc show. "the bowl is round, the mug is round, why not call it roundtine"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, exactly.
fluffypony: heh
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For all I know the urban pigeons are eating used heroin needles, junkies hepatitis diarrhea, and random industrial and medical waste
mircea_popescu: what do you mean "for all we know
mircea_popescu: that's exactly it.
BingoBoingo: I qualify it that way, because I prefer not to document the exact objectionable habits of sky rats.
pankkake: shitting on passerbys?
chetty: pigeons in Turkey do that a lot
BingoBoingo: chetty: How does turkey support pigeons with all of those cats?
mircea_popescu: actually i think it's mostly seagulls in turkey
chetty: I have pics, somewhere - Turkey/me/leather jacket/pideon poop
BingoBoingo: A lot of the seasonal gulls are starting to find their way here up the Mississippi.
mircea_popescu: o yeah one did get her, i reclal this
mircea_popescu: punkman: seems strange << few people actually grok opsec. this is probably because most adults were once children, and most children are forced to renounce their hardline attitudes, such as "won't eat any peas ever no matter what"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00091442 = 25.3752 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: like the PoW is the defining factor << the pow is a defining factor, what you on about ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I'm saying it isn't
mircea_popescu: on the basis of what.
fluffypony: on the basis of the PoW being the least interesting part about it
mircea_popescu: o you meant for that specific shitcoin in partiuclar, the pow braindamage isn' teven the one braindamage you'd start thre discussion with ?
fluffypony: yes - talking about Monero in particular
mircea_popescu: i c. thought you meant in the general.
mircea_popescu: i suppose 80% of online misunderstanding flows from this particular/general mismatch, tbh. not from the supposed coldness of the medium.
fluffypony: yep
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoVxlXAIYAACTe6.jpg
mircea_popescu: "f you're Indian and Muslim you're screwed . UKIP will be in power here, they gonna send you India, but Nazi Modi is in power there."
mircea_popescu: sounds pretty bad
BingoBoingo: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/gqem5a4hvhwfhsycxaps.jpg
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: truer words were ne'er writ
BingoBoingo: Well, at least Idi Amin isn't still removing all of the asians from "Scotland"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol so ukip won the eu electuons ?
BingoBoingo: No idea.
mircea_popescu: seems so.
mircea_popescu: tiny voter turnout.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 500 @ 0.0007812 = 0.3906 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Naureen Nayyar☀ ‏@norabean · now #omg #bitcoin feel free to donate to me :P “@BTC_PRICE: bitstamp: $586
mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu ‏@Mircea_Popescu · now @norabean @BTC_PRICE Start by sucking my cock, NOT by asking for money. Shesh.
mircea_popescu: these people, seriously. "o i am great and wonderful give me stuff". what in the living fuck.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 36 @ 0.00536087 = 0.193 BTC [-] {7}
mircea_popescu: pankkake:I was wondering about blogs of non-asseters actually << if you do that ima stop reading it altogether.
mircea_popescu: people can suggest blogs through adding them to their own feeds or w/e they do when they want to read blogs.
mircea_popescu: but generally, if people want to be part of the future, they will HAVE TO come here, make friends, become one of us.
mircea_popescu: this part is not negotiable, i don't give a shit how special anyone thinks anyone is. each and every last one sec comissioner, president or prime minister, everyone must, no matter what, getr in wot and so on.
mircea_popescu: either the shah of brunei does or he is not in.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: http://pastebin.com/Y518dxjJ << bwahahaha epic.
assbot: Nasty Minutes - Pastebin.com
mircea_popescu: |OgNasty: Any newly generated coins donated to nastyfans we can consider as NASTY MINING. I could identify these and maybe we vote to set policy that NASTY MINING always gets at least 25% of mined coins?"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00091244 = 15.6027 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: pfoah so random comment on trilema brought to fore an article that's like... exceptional. http://trilema.com/2012/de-ce-s-nesuferiti-tehnicienii/ i gotta have this translated. any romanian speakers (preferably not native) looking for a job ?
assbot: De ce-s nesuferiti tehnicienii ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: 12:49:34
mircea_popescu: assbot:
mircea_popescu: 37.6 BTC reward for information that leads to the arrest of the hacker that is trying to hack all my stuff at the moment. details to come! << lol so all the btc roger ver still has left come to 75.2 ?
mircea_popescu: or is he giving the informant a 50%+.1 sort of deal ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently it is the amount the extortionist was seeking
mircea_popescu: oic
mircea_popescu: jurov: asciilifeform: and when will the nonsatanic implementation ship? << for srs!
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: davout i dont know, why you keep making trouble and asking us to solve it?! <<< werd!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, jurov: presently juggling CAD and... getting sewer service to my building again. (beautiful story. water contractor destroyed drain pipe on entire street, claims to have fixed it. fountains of shit from the bath! still!)
mircea_popescu: omfg
mircea_popescu: and you live there ?
asciilifeform: soviet states of a.
mircea_popescu: dude just.... why
mircea_popescu: did i ever tell you the story of my clogged toilet in costa rica btw ?
fluffypony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzk3oViSCI
assbot: Petaminx Tutorial - Full - YouTube
fluffypony: 8 hours of tutorial
mircea_popescu: fluffypony, how many "uuuuuhhhh" seconds ?
fluffypony: I can't get through more than 2 minutes, I don't have 8 hours to waste
fluffypony: lol
mircea_popescu: someone should make a youtube app whereby the person inserts the metallic dongle up their butt
mircea_popescu: and it shocks them
fluffypony: lol
mircea_popescu: can only stream if dongle in place.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do tell
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 96 @ 0.03877812 = 3.7227 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, so one morning i go to bathroom, i flush when done, it won't drain. i call administratora, she calls her.... well not exactly husband.
mircea_popescu: the clearly "had been in prison" tough guy that owned the building.
mircea_popescu: he tries some basic maneuvers of a slightly more elevated hardcoreness
mircea_popescu: pulls out phone starts talking lively into it
mircea_popescu: two dudes in overalls show up half hour later
mircea_popescu: they got some metal wire tools and so forth. they go ait it
mircea_popescu: after a coupla hours the entire bathroom is taken apart, everyone's talking lively in phones
mircea_popescu: a special truck arives, there\'s like nine men in my house, all fighting with the bathroom
mircea_popescu: eventually THERE IS BLOOD EVERYWHERE
mircea_popescu: turns out, an aligator was trying to traverse the sewage got himself stuck.
mircea_popescu: they... pulled it out.
mircea_popescu: by parts.
asciilifeform: lol!
mircea_popescu: by evening my flushing was fine again. and yet somehow it's the centroamericans that have the reputation for laziness and inefficiency
mircea_popescu: i couldn't guess why. i was fucking impressed, i mean of all the problems one could be ready to solve...
chetty: and MP is not exaggerating one bit
mircea_popescu: ^ she was there for the exercise.
asciilifeform: if only we had an alligator here. i could extract it, own the gear.
mircea_popescu: well in cr they never destroyed the pipes, what can ido
asciilifeform: more hilariously, when first discovered the problem, tried to decamp to a hotel. 9 hotels, all booked.
asciilifeform: turns out, it's that day of the year when thousands of motorcyclists converge on the city
mircea_popescu: o.O
asciilifeform: they parade around with dour 'remember the vietnam war!' banners
mircea_popescu: and can afford hotel stays ?!
mircea_popescu: da fuck is with that place.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, suggestion : move to istanbul for the week. free airfare if hyou got the miles, like 100 a night for downtown hotel
asciilifeform: they drive $30k+ machines.
asciilifeform: usa is a very peculiar animal
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.00523 = 0.2615 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: ended up driving self and pet over to my consulting shop, where the toilets never fail.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: there honestly aren't enough hours in a day to document "all the scams" << he may well have a pooint.
asciilifeform: (an industrial district)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, so now you finally get to sleep with your work ?
asciilifeform: went to bed around 4 in the morning. now seems like the story repeats.
mircea_popescu: pankkake:
mircea_popescu: benkay: I was thinking of starting a general shorting fund - sell shares that mimic shares in every way (pay same divs, buyback at vwap after X months). sell the shares at a discount to make them more appealing than real shares << mpex did this early on, but it was a political move to crush the idiots that thought they can make a glbse club. i doubt it'll be financially productive, you'll either fake volume a la btct
mircea_popescu: hl et all or else do half a bitcoin's trade out of 500 idjits.
mircea_popescu: benkay:HeySteve: nonsense. << it's not nonsense in any way. naked shorts are the instrument of evil. women should be always naked, shorts always covered. the us is doing it exaclty backwards.
mircea_popescu: benkay: afaik there's no way to evaluate the float on mpex. you just gotta trust mircea_popescu. << no, this is why the dividend payments work the way they do. mpex will a) not let you pay fewer shares than there are and b) issue you a signed receipt which includes that number.
mircea_popescu: so you get mpex-audited float every time yoyu pay a dividend.
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6YtVnl-AQE
assbot: dig - YouTube
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: password is used in two places unfortunately two very important places << that was a pretty shitty password.
mircea_popescu: pls to read up on dicelists.
asciilifeform: (pool from destroyed pipe visible on bottom of trench)
asciilifeform: they also have this weird custom, where a trench of an active pipe project is filled in with asphalt every time, even if work is not done - because driving is sacred. must be drivable over.
mircea_popescu: artifexd: I was thinking about Ubuntu but apparently they suck for reasons that are unclear to me. <<< dependency hell and a bad case of code rot.
asciilifeform: the result is pounded flat using a gigantic machine that sends shock waves everywhere
mircea_popescu: but w/e, you can probably use it.
asciilifeform: windows rattle, anything not bolted down shakes loose, etc.
asciilifeform: as for the paraders - from the lack of habitable building, went to see the fscking parade. and this is what it looked like:
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h97SPKc2nY
assbot: parade - YouTube
mircea_popescu: looks pretty romanian asciilifeform
artifexd: mircea_popescu: I decided on arch linux although I'm still evaluating desktop environments/window managers.
artifexd: I plan on moving all my server ops to coreos so the centos thing won't be an issue.
mircea_popescu: gotta try around a little. as is typical of open source, diff things work for diff jobs.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't run a server on ubuntu, but if making a system for an ex windows person prolly still best choiuce,
mircea_popescu: benkay: the people with the money to implement dumb crypto things are never going to select professional services people for execution who say things like "what you are trying to build is not possible to build". << pretty much exactly.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the soviet tale didn't end there. i come back, trench is filled, sewer - same state. call bureaucrats, they promise to test. wake up, there's a note, claiming that 'tested, works, if still having problem, your problem.' i pick up phone, turns out the fellow testing had no idea there was pipe work at all. it was done by contractors, see, and the city 'had no idea.'
mircea_popescu: which is why the rape of the people with fiat by bitcoin is so fucking essential.
mircea_popescu: capital doesn't belong with the idiots currently holding it. they don't know what to do with it, other than pay people to falsely claim they do know what to do with i.t
mircea_popescu: lol i c. so what did htey test, the secretaries' lower piping ?
chetty: prolly to see if the trench was filled
asciilifeform: most likely, nothing. just read a flow sensor somewhere.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, so are you sueing your landlord ?
mircea_popescu: princessnell: not exactly keep living, but maximize probability of the highest possible degree of genetic transmission. but you get my drift. << iget your drift, i just don't perceive any substance to it. can you prove your purpose is more to convey your own genetic material than to convey the genetic material of the e coli you're very comfortably keeping at a pleasant temperature deep inside, and strive to keep well
mircea_popescu: fed and so forth ?
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: i would've thought he was the exact opposite << this, incidentally, is how you know you've buddha'd. various people reading your stuff come to exactly opposite conclusions on fundamental topics such as "what is the purpose of meaning"
mircea_popescu: ima go out and celebrate this great achievement.
mircea_popescu: and you two as well as anyone interested is invited to a full debate of this matter, to take place statring 8pm today, my time. which is roughly in nine hours. then maybe we can get to the bottom of it
mircea_popescu: and if not it, a nice round bottom anyway.
fluffypony: ah at 1am I am definitely going to be drunkish or asleep
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: landlord lives in CA. he's nothing to do with this crap.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony, apparently diogenes kyon was perpetualloy both, is still remembered.
asciilifeform: (fellow used to live in the house, unable to sell, ended up renting it out, quite possibly at a loss)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you are renting from him correct ?
mircea_popescu: that means he has everything to do with it.
mircea_popescu: ah
asciilifeform: might sue the city, though, if this carries on.
mircea_popescu: one wonders why unable to sell
mircea_popescu: anyway, the trick with suing is to make up your mind quick and let the papers fly the next day.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: almost certainly same reason as the various folks i know in this position - term of art, i think, is 'underwater'
mircea_popescu: "It has just been announced now that UTA, the union of bus drivers, will convoke a full strike for ALL buses(colectivos y micros , which means city and long distance buses) for this Wednesday, 28 May starting at 0000 in ALL OF ARGENTINA!."
chetty: your tax money, hard at work
mircea_popescu: rich bitcoiners using cabs not affected. HOPEFULLY
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-05-2014#687492 << bwahahah ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
asciilifeform: speaking of vehicles, there were... moto-tricycles in the parade. wtf is the point ?!
asciilifeform: of such a machine
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ask an engineer, what do i know :D
asciilifeform: as i understand, all the down-sides of a normal auto and motorcycle in one package.
asciilifeform: takes up a full lane, yet still the same crunchy death if you wreck it
asciilifeform: resembles a tractor more than anything else
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't own or drive one
mircea_popescu: but perhaps... it's cheaper than a car and doesn't need your foot on the ground like a bike ?
mircea_popescu: so "win-win"
asciilifeform: looked it up, they seem to cost about the same as a nice toyota
asciilifeform: so, my suspicion, folks who want the 'l33t' of motorbike, but without the study.
mircea_popescu: o look at that, amazon being a little bitch.
mircea_popescu: gravy train coming to an end, in a decade nobody will even remember who bezos was.
mircea_popescu: ok and with that im caught up with the 23rd. omfg you people talk A LOT
mircea_popescu: anyway. hasta luego.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mototricycles are notorious for rolling and crushing the driver/rider
jurov: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 302731 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 1684 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 7 hours, 57 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11225085364.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.35832
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 49 @ 0.0387799 = 1.9002 BTC [-]
pankkake: %diff
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 155992.46 in 337 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -65.74
pankkake: I wonder if I'll ever squeeze in a block
pankkake: or what I could get by selling those usb erupters
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems to me like the pill against this is to drive an ordinary auto, rather than a peculiar tractor where you still get ejected into oncoming traffic at the slightest bump...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right. The three wheeled cycle rollover problem is why you don't see new manufacter 3 wheeled atvs anymore.
punkman: the four-wheeled ATVs got rollover problems too
punkman: tourist idiots like to rent them around here, then they end up in a ditch with broken legs
BingoBoingo: punkman: Correct. As bad as the four wheeled problem is, three wheeled...
asciilifeform: example of machine:
asciilifeform: http://images01.olx-st.com/ui/4/03/27/1267281213_77009627_1-Pictures-of---2001-Custom-Built-Trike-Motorcycle.jpg
davout: asciilifeform: gross
pankkake: fact: more wheels is better
davout: http://www.motomove.fr/assets/images/canam/canam_Spyder%20RS.jpg
punkman: http://www.nerdwax.com/
assbot: nerdwax - the original glasses wax
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: nubbins` canada looks scarier and scarier. <<how so??
bitcoinpete: and g'morning
Mats_cd03: theres a product for everything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.471 BTC [-]
punkman: https://www.theivdoctor.com/
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu:these people, seriously. "o i am great and wonderful give me stuff". what in the living fuck. << es el socialismo
bitcoinpete: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/05/19/modern-forms-of-slavery-generate-150-billion-a-year-in-profits-for-exploiters/
assbot: Modern Forms of Slavery Generate $150 Billion a Year in Profits for Exploiters - Real Time Economics - WSJ
asciilifeform: bitcoinpete: 'modern forms of slavery' << if not for wsj, one could almost expect the piece to be about the u.s. economy at large
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 5 @ 0.038 = 0.19 BTC {2}
pankkake: but that wouldn't have been only 150B
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 56 @ 0.038 = 2.128 BTC {4}
pankkake: More than half — 55% — are women and girls.
pankkake: apparently barely over half is worth mentionning
bitcoinpete: pankkake: egalité!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 10 @ 0.038 = 0.38 BTC
bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: eh not sure the us system is quite that dark a shade of gray
bitcoinpete: i mean, you live there and i live in the hottest economy on the continent, so feel free to correct me
bitcoinpete: but if it's relative, which it is, then the usa sucks a boatload but is still freer than plenty o' places
asciilifeform: bitcoinpete: all depends on whether one demands that somebody wears chains, receives whippings, to be considered slave.
bitcoinpete: the welfare state provideth so that the womenz and childrenz don't have to wear visible chainz
bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: surely not
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.470005 = 0.94 BTC [-]
pankkake: !up aabtc
bitcoinpete: slavery can be all sorts of invisible
aabtc: pankkake: cheers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.0192 = 0.384 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: I feel like the "working poor" is getting more common thanks to the taxfare state
bitcoinpete: the modern definition of freedom, that of economic security and material well being, is a very specific form of slavery
pankkake: you can hardly afford to save, and most of your earnings go to crappy government programs supposed to help you
bitcoinpete: pankkake: sure, as the state will provide
pankkake: it's a trap
bitcoinpete: don't give to the homeless directly. there's gov programs to help them
bitcoinpete: pankkake: precisement
pankkake: sadly it's mostly a belief those things exist
bitcoinpete: sorry, what things? programs?
pankkake: yes. it's not going back to the people who need it
pankkake: but the taxpayer/voter thinks it does
davout: in france, i feel
davout: the easiest is to give time
bitcoinpete: ya, time isn't in the bezzle. yet
pankkake: bitcoinpete: …yet https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_civique
assbot: Service civique Wikipdia
bitcoinpete: "L'objectif du service civique, et plus largement des volontariats, est de permettre à des jeunes (en particulier mais pas seulement) de s'investir à plein temps dans un projet d’intérêt général" << omfgbbq better have "permission"
pankkake: this was hinted a few times as a replacement of conscription
pankkake: and conscription is undoubtely slavery
bitcoinpete: no debate there
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: well in cr they never destroyed the pipes, what can ido << and those pipes are quite the delicate roses. no flushing tp iirc
pankkake: I buy TP where the cardboard thing can be flushed too, it changed my life
artifexd: lol
pankkake: and once again george was wrong, toilet paper changes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 24 @ 0.038 = 0.912 BTC
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/470948155450613760
assbot: In France, you need permission to volunteer. And slavery doesn't exist in "modern society?" https://t.co/mii2npha5L
pankkake: that's a bit of an exaggeration
bitcoinpete: pankkake: never heard of this sorcerous tp roll you speak of
bitcoinpete: well… ya
bitcoinpete: lol there in lies the fun
pankkake: it's made by Lotus
pankkake: http://www.aquatube.eu/
assbot: Aqua Tube | Flush&Go
bitcoinpete: it even has an app!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 150 @ 0.038 = 5.7 BTC
jurov: https://angel.co/dunne-capital
assbot: Dunne Capital | AngelList
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0191999 = 0.1152 BTC [-]
jurov: UKs first exchange with access to the banking system... but..we're actually doing casino first?
jurov: huh hah
fluffypony: jurov it gets better - didn't you see the forum post with their PHP exchange alpha / demo / whatever leaking info?
fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583262.msg6895054#msg6895054
assbot: [CounterParty/Colored Coins] IPO announcement. Mimex - UK bitcoin exchange
jurov: i came to satan worship so far
fluffypony: lol
jurov: "Available here https://bitcoinbourse.eu/ ticker DUN" oooohh how did i miss this?
assbot: BitcoinBourse.eu - decentralised market place to buy and sell Bitcoin person to person! Welcome to the future of Bitcoin trading!
pankkake: apparently even bitcoin bourse is more conventient than colored coins
fluffypony: no no
fluffypony: they did coloured coins too
fluffypony: or mastercoin or something
fluffypony: I lose track
fluffypony: it's a 3PO
jurov: on bbs there are 3000 shares offered at 0.008
jurov: and no other bids/asks ofc
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: and you two as well as anyone interested is invited to a full debate of this matter, to take place starting 8pm today << buddha, i'll be there. that is, here.
bitcoinpete: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/23/chart-christianity-middle-east_n_5378582.html?&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000055
assbot: How Christianity Is Disappearing In The Middle East In One Chart
jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583262.msg6781115#msg6781115 fluffypony what you're up to?
assbot: [CounterParty/Colored Coins] IPO announcement. Mimex - UK bitcoin exchange
fluffypony: jurov: I favoured the lesser fool in that instance
fluffypony: btc-banker was being idiotic
decimation: asciilifeform: If you are in PG county, that's pretty much the most corrupt county in the most corrupt state of the US
decimation: although Baltimore city is probably worse
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00458201 = 0.197 BTC [-]
decimation: re: motor-trikes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogrwZv8N7TA
assbot: Putin's rockin' & rollin' on a Harley Trike - YouTube
decimation: at least Putin is able to put motorcycle thugs to useful work in Ukraine
decimation: apparently in the US they can only clog traffic in the capital city
decimation: True story: once I was walking along a street in Washington, DC during some dumbass WTO protest or something
decimation: I stopped to watch at Farragut Square park, which is full of bums. The bums all gathered on the street to watch the procession. First, came 50 or so so policemen riding on Harleys. Next, a sad mob of a few hundred youths protesting the "prision state"
decimation: several of them climing over various obstacles, attempting to scale traffic lights, overturn trash cans, etc..
decimation: After the last of the mob wondered past, one of the nearby bums shook his head and mumbled "only in America" and shuffled back to his campsite
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00457308 = 0.4116 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.14396835 BTC to 8`915 shares, 24049 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03070001 = 0.1228 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.04954094 = 0.1982 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0381101 = 0.1906 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 5 @ 0.038 = 0.19 BTC
benkay: <mircea_popescu> obtw, speaking of steak. i had some fucking INCREDIBLE steaks these past two days. i am fucking humbled, you can not begin to imagine the steaks in this fucking town. omfg. << told you.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 5 @ 0.038 = 0.19 BTC
benkay: <BingoBoingo> mircea_popescu: I'm not sure if they are the worst... Databases suck pretty bad. // let me tell you about this magical closed source database i own...
benkay: hey wait, weren't the legendary symbolics environments of yore closed source as well?
asciilifeform: benkay: nope.
asciilifeform: benkay: it was a sort of product now mostly extinct - pay, get complete source (naturally for in-house use only)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what town?
benkay: but how did they protect against piracy?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 40 @ 0.03810377 = 1.5242 BTC [-] {4}
benkay: http://is.gd/afolif
asciilifeform: benkay: what kind of piracy, when 90+% of it would only run on that particular arch.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 35 @ 0.038 = 1.33 BTC
benkay: oh for an arch that did s-exps in hardware
asciilifeform: benkay: as for the remainder: since this type of distribution was customary, any unsanctioned cribbing of code would become apparent when you bought the suspected product and examined its sources.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 11 @ 0.038 = 0.418 BTC {2}
benkay: HeySteve2: you're connected to channels before your hostmask gets applied fyi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0975 = 0.4875 BTC [+]
benkay: <mircea_popescu> benkay: afaik there's no way to evaluate the float on mpex. you just gotta trust mircea_popescu. << no, this is why the dividend payments work the way they do. mpex will a) not let you pay fewer shares than there are and b) issue you a signed receipt which includes that number. << contract also spells it out.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> benkay:HeySteve: nonsense. << it's not nonsense in any way. naked shorts are the instrument of evil. women should be always naked, shorts always covered. the us is doing it exaclty backwards. << you'll note i came around eventually.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> so you get mpex-audited float every time yoyu pay a dividend. << wait but as in the case of mpif, a malicious broker could issue more shares and not pay to that float, as mpex doesn't enforce that divs be paid to the whole float which you say is a feature but my tiny brain still percieves as a bug
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 14 @ 0.038 = 0.532 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 6 @ 0.038 = 0.228 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0975 = 0.2925 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 540 @ 0.00222884 = 1.2036 BTC [-] {24}
benkay: now this: https://www.theivdoctor.com/make-an-appointment/view/Detox
benkay: ;;later tell BingoBoingo https://www.theivdoctor.com/make-an-appointment/view/Detox
gribble: The operation succeeded.
benkay: http://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chxr=0,0,37889&chm=h,000000,0,0.31,1&chxt=y&chbh=a&chs=450x220&cht=bvs&chco=4D89F9&chds=0,37889&chd=t:10372,9279,14650,15462,10146,9344,9662,12580,13607,17737,12812,16740,17611,29146,15490,18496,18373,20967,15589,20740,10490,9119,6705,7736,4046,6323,6933,8297,6362,9305,9973,11029,10468,6838,3301,1019,3183,6510,6133,11544,14766,17248,15970,14836,18496,10667,9139,14869,16325,14353,15007,9315,13960,13258,12440,9318,
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 120 @ 0.038 = 4.56 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0381001 = 0.381 BTC [-]
jurov: benkay how issue? you mean, outside mpex?
benkay: no, on mpex.
benkay: didn't mpif have a float of n at t=0 and then shortly thereafter had a float of n + m?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00084337 = 9.9518 BTC [-]
jurov: well, and?
jurov: mp wrote "mpex will not let you pay fewer shares than there are"
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26ge5v/im_finally_out_of_the_red/chr0qpe lol reddit is all over it
assbot: dooglus comments on I'm finally out of the red
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11266 @ 0.00084146 = 9.4799 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.46079225 = 1.8432 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.10598491 = 0.5299 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: oh my mistake
thestringpuller: jurov: wow reddit is angry at dooglus "Dooglus, as the owner of Just Dice, you should not have said anything to them whatsoever, due to conflict of interest. You may have cost yourself a lot of respect from the community."
kakobrekla: psi laju, karavani prolaze
fluffypony: dooglus: for what it's worth, I think they're utterly moronic, they're reacting as if they didn't read the second part of your comment
thestringpuller: damn they started a whole new thread? http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26j2fn/distraught_redditor_debates_whether_to_gamble/
assbot: Distraught Redditor debates whether to gamble their life savings. Owner of Just-Dice shows up and chimes in: "If you think a 49.5% chance of having 100 BTC is better than a 100% chance of having 50 BTC, then betting it all on a double-or-nothing at Just-Dice is the way to go." Decides to bet; loses. : Bitcoin
punkman: "First ever penis tattoo for BTC!" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=625220.0
assbot: Klyemax Studios Official (Cock) Tattoo
thestringpuller: ;;gettrust dooglus
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user dooglus: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=dooglus | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=dooglus | Rated since: Thu Apr 5 06:34:26 2012
pankkake: I haven't seen any casino owner try to dissuade gamblers as much as dooglus
pankkake: eh "For me, the pain of losing is so much stronger than the joy of winning that I mostly don't play."
fluffypony: and then still get shat on for it
pankkake: but you gotta be upset at someone else than yourself
fluffypony: he should've promised "guaranteed rewards" like most of the IPOs
thestringpuller: ^- ugh...
thestringpuller: pankkake: dooglus is also not a criminal like most casino owners in Vegas...
pankkake: " You may have cost yourself a lot of respect from the community."
pankkake: walls of text ensue
fluffypony: the way I read his post was: "if you feel like pissing your money into the toilet, please use my toilet. Personally, I don't think pissing money into a toilet is a good idea. I don't piss money into the toilet much."
thestringpuller: It's funny how /r/bitcoin thinks "they are the community"
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> turns out, an aligator was trying to traverse the sewage got himself stuck. << woah!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00010504 = 0.3151 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1001 @ 0.00082661 = 0.8274 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0192 = 0.1152 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03099927 = 0.62 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.0192 = 0.2688 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.000105 = 0.315 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00082661 = 2.8931 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: the guy that lost 50btc on jd: <pippin> At least I have a reason to try at school now lol, any delusions of being rich just went out the window.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0054 = 0.135 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00455405 = 0.1139 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 5 @ 0.038 = 0.19 BTC
punkman: !up poutine
poutine: Hi I saw this tx on mainnet: https://blockchain.info/tx/2bb7e8720356f79a9005488a529ab12d6f516879b2357224204cb5f2b780fd02
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 2bb7e8720356f79a9005488a529ab12d6f516879b2357224204cb5f2b780fd02
poutine: with a shout out to this channel
punkman: that a mastercoin thing?
poutine: nah it's a bitcoin nonstandard tx that someone put an ascii message in
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1576 @ 0.00211023 = 3.3257 BTC [-] {9}
poutine: if you click "advanced" at the bottom, and then take the script output: echo "2153484f55544f555420544f2023424954434f494e2d415353455453202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020" |xxd -p -r
poutine: you get: "!SHOUTOUT TO #BITCOIN-ASSETS "
pankkake: lol indeed. how did you find that one?
punkman: nice
fluffypony: nice
fluffypony: such el8
punkman: poutine, what else have you seen in your travels
poutine: pankkake, I make custom txes, and was going through some strange transactions and saw it
poutine: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/57225697/0 <- I made this redeemable multi choice puzzle transaction w/ embedded message yesterday
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 15c2b9bc3b93e0c0a037c5fa8402d0e34e13d3bb0ce7fca65888e5d24e597dcc
poutine: was seeing if there were any loose transactions on the blockchain I could claim with a little bit of brainpower
punkman: ;;gettrust poutine
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user punkman to user poutine: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=punkman&dest=poutine | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=poutine | Rated since: never
punkman: poutine, how do you answer the puzzle?
poutine: punkman, Well I redeemed that one, if you click the spent output: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/57230279 and then run the input script through xxd -p -r, you get
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 95de640457b7bcfc4608d84f84542efc40cc7ee7761dd6c7102bc0b36f0d9d51
poutine: echo "6561746174757264796f75736869746d6f6e6b6579" |xxd -p -r
poutine: eataturdyoushitmonkey
poutine: There were 3 valid scripts that would have redeemed that tx
poutine: http://webbtc.com/scripts/unknown <- is a good place for finding weird transactions, and where I found the one someone from here made
assbot: Bitcoin BlockBrowser - unknown Scripts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.0381981 = 0.2292 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: poutine: how would one write a custom transaction?
punkman: thestringpuller: well now you can ask poutine to write it :P
thestringpuller: who needs email when you have the blockchain...
mircea_popescu: oh the blinkenlichtens
mircea_popescu: <bitcoinpete> mircea_popescu: nubbins` canada looks scarier and scarier. <<how so?? << icebergs and shit
punkman: mircea_popescu: maybe you should put some cryptograms in the blockchain
poutine: thestringpuller, I use bitcoinjs-lib
poutine: I followed the instructions for a regular transaction, but instead of the normal pay to pubkey/scripthash, I just put in my own script
mircea_popescu: ;;rated lospantalones
gribble: You have not yet rated user lospantalones
mircea_popescu: punkman, lol maybe later.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate lospantalones 1 bought me lunch.
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
mircea_popescu: hm.
fluffypony: los_pantalones, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: ;;rate los_pantalones 1 bought me lunch.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user los_pantalones has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: o hey tyvm!
fluffypony: np
mircea_popescu: pankkake: and conscription is undoubtely slavery << all education is slavery.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete that's in like, palenque in mexico, arenal in cr etc. tourist traps with shitty pipes. otherwise not a concern.
mircea_popescu: jurov: UKs first exchange with access to the banking system... but..we're actually doing casino first? << is this that dunne guy that was here recently ?
mircea_popescu: benkay, yea i noted you came around :p
chetty: ;;rate los_pantalones 1 real person bought me lunch.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user los_pantalones has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: i didn't get the mpif example.
jurov: mircea don't remember
mircea_popescu: ;;seen wdunne
gribble: I have not seen wdunne.
mircea_popescu: something like that it was iirc
mircea_popescu: benkay: didn't mpif have a float of n at t=0 and then shortly thereafter had a float of n + m? << 1mn, then as that sold out 2mn
punkman: ;;seen mrwdunne
gribble: mrwdunne was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 3 days, 1 hour, 38 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <mrwdunne> US doesn't have a very good track record when it comes to human rights and terrorism. Their judgement was probably the correct one
mircea_popescu: aye
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/0TRfa2l.png
mircea_popescu: omfg check out the complex excel sheeting for 5btc or w.e it is
mircea_popescu: lol poor dooglus is getting an earful on reddit
mircea_popescu: kinda funny how self important those fuckwits are jeez.
mircea_popescu: poutine, pretty cool tx lol
punkman: !up poutine
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 169 @ 0.0007812 = 0.132 BTC [+] {2}
poutine: It is possible to play a game on the blockchain where there's a limited amount of moves. Chess would be too complicated, checkers might not be
mircea_popescu: "viscous personal attacks" dub ?! quick, call the interwebs poleese.
thestringpuller: poutine: what about settlers of catan? ;)
mircea_popescu: mike_c was sort-of working on something ismilar.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen mike_c
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 20 hours, 20 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <mike_c> more like "humans" freak out when they don't understand something. when people ask me about why the market moved I give them the time-tested answer: God.
chetty: MASSIVE Colorado mud slide is 4 miles long ,2 miles wide & 250 feet deep.....
thestringpuller: meanwhile on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/26hzgo/21_f_corrupted_my_26_m_boyfriend/
assbot: [21 F], corrupted my [26 M] boyfriend : relationships
davout: meanwhile, dotcoin is getting buttraepd
poutine: thestringpuller, Well you have a 201 opcode limit, 1000 stack size limit, and a 10000 byte tx limit, I need 8 opcodes per comparison, so as long as there's 24 possible moves or less it can be played on the blockchain
mircea_popescu: punkman: MP goes away, the logs dry up, for shame << i dunno dood, I've been working to catch up for three days. in between picking up hawt brazilian chicks in the street and shoveling steaks
poutine: I can make a tx where there's 24 potential scriptSigs that will redeem it
mircea_popescu: poutine, why not just embed a hash digest ?
poutine: mircea_popescu, Hmm I'm not sure I understand, the way I'd see it is if it were chess, all possible moves would be an acceptable redemption for the tx, like pawn to e4 would be a redemption, Qxe5, etc. That way the game could be followed just by following the blockchain for the tx
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 339 @ 0.00430964 = 1.461 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: ok now I don't know if I follow
poutine: Ok well I can do tic tac toe on the blockchain, let me write it up
poutine: (it's going to result in unspendable outputs because... tic tac toe though)
mircea_popescu: yeah i see. thing is... why'd you want to play it this way rather than the normal way ?
punkman: poutine, your puzzle redeeming transaction could be rewritten by a miner right?
poutine: yes punkman
poutine: mircea_popescu, Oh entirely for fun
poutine: also it would prevent double turns, forgeries, etc by virtue of the protocol
mircea_popescu: but it could be rewritten by any miner.
poutine: yes, a miner could cheat, but a miner would have a significant cost to cheat
poutine: we're talking probably thousands of dollars
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0309999 = 0.186 BTC [+]
poutine: tens of thousands eh
mircea_popescu: that aside, forgetries are still eminently possible
poutine: Ok I should not make the claim that an unsigned transaction cannot be forged
poutine: I should say it'd be cost prohibitive at this point
mircea_popescu: see the thing is, your system may actually SAVe the miners thousands of dollars.
mircea_popescu: because they load it in the mempool and chainmine for all its permutations
mircea_popescu: might actually give them a hash boost.
punkman: poutine, what's the cost? seems like you only have to come up with something that identifies rewritable transactions and broadcasts them with his own address
poutine: punkman, the cost is that you'd have to solo mine to forge the tx right now, or participate in a mining pool that would automate the forgery
poutine: Writing the forgery code is easy, being able to mine the block to test it out is not
jurov: no mrwdunne is the proslimbs invesor: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/now-is-time-tomorrow-is-glory-ipo-people.307662/#post-6198349
assbot: Now is Time, tomorrow IS glory = IPO people | Bitcointa.lk
punkman: you can just throw the rewritten transaction out there and hope someone mines it, no?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: re: bitstamp: if the story is true, they've fucked their public goat. << the story is both true and not really new.
poutine: punkman, nah you'd need to know the secret to be able to do the move
mircea_popescu: they were lolled at for asking for miner gear purchase receipts from people who indicated the btc source os "mining" for months nao
poutine: also nobody really mines nonstandard txes on btc mainnet with one exception
punkman: poutine, but you share the secret when you try to redeem
mircea_popescu: that exception being "anyone who feels like it"
poutine: mircea_popescu, the one exception is eligius right now
kakobrekla: check out this schmuk https://bitcointa.lk/threads/review-of-the-current-state-of-bitcoin-securities-market.314520/
assbot: Review of the current state of Bitcoin securities market | Bitcointa.lk
kakobrekla: his wall of text http://blog.coinomat.com/bitcoin-stocks-here-to-stay-2/
assbot: Bitcoin stocks: here to stay | Coinomat.com blog
kakobrekla: and no mention of #b-a
mircea_popescu: pankkake, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-05-2014#687935 omg wtf ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
pankkake: my fault, should not happen again
mircea_popescu: o look kako on .lk. me hearts
pankkake: well no that case was jborkl's fault. he added tracking to the URLs
pankkake: but I strip them now
kakobrekla: coincidence.
poutine: punkman, Ok so if I was making the move e4, and my player secret was foo, and an acceptable redemption scriptSig is hash256('fooe4'). When I submit my redemption, you're saying someone else would see it in the mempool, and submit it to a different mempool with the redemption going to a different address?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 141 @ 0.00235853 = 0.3326 BTC [-] {3}
poutine: The miner situation I think is obvious, a miner could definitely redirect the output with little effort, and nobody to punish him for it, but wouldn't the above situation simply be covered by the timestamping server, and currently by the fact there's only one mining pool that accepts these transactions, and they do not allow double spends in their memory pool?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla, left him a comment, curious if he publishes it.
kakobrekla: gj
thestringpuller: poutine: re earlier: 24 possible moves total? or 24 possible moves within a single turn?
asciilifeform: meanwhile! end of sewer saga: city excavated street, disassembled pipe, found tree roots behind the property line - which had become clogged with backed up crud (for the 30 hours or so the city's pipe was broken.) now they will fight with landlord's insurance co. ☟︎
poutine: 24 moves within a single turn thestringpuller
asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/gjPW0By
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: poutine, what timestamping server ?
pankkake: https://www.opsmate.com/titus/
assbot: titus - Totally Isolated TLS Unwrapping Server
mircea_popescu: and stop relying on incidentals. if there's any value to fucking you over, the nonstandard txs will be accepted by everyone.
poutine: disregard timestamping server comment
mircea_popescu: the fact that there's no one doing it now simply reflects the fact nobody is currently giving a shit. not something ytou can rely on as you change the incentive structure
thestringpuller: "Considering the points above I believe that Bitcoin stocks are here to stay. The key to success here would be the issuers screening and preemptive measures against fraudulent players. Serious and responsible project can be successful here, and most probably relatively unperturbed by regulators. Centralized exchanges should have a crucial role, since decentralized ones cannot probably achieve high level of protec
thestringpuller: lol
poutine: mircea_popescu, yeah I would agree with you
pankkake: I usually stop reading at "here to stay"
poutine: in any event, it is fun to play with custom transactions, I'm surprised there's only been 1661 of them according to webbtc.com
thestringpuller: reminds me of btcmsg project that got scrapped
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid: dignork: I find it hard to conceive of a business that can't think of expansion . << efficiency of capial deployment is the issue. read buffett\s letters to investors, he covers it in detail
mircea_popescu: poutine, afaik webbtc sees most but not exactly all
poutine: It'd be quite easy to dump data into btc. I'm sure it'd piss off a lot of people though (namely everyone with the blockchain), but you could embed wikileaks into the blockchain through redeemable transactions
kakobrekla: poutine what exactly defines a 'custom' tx?
poutine: kakobrekla, not pay to public key, pay to script hash
poutine: !tx.isStandard()
poutine: OP_RETURN <short amount of data> might be standard now
mircea_popescu: this is like 2012 srsly.
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid:
mircea_popescu: 6:11:48 PM CheckDavid But btc on their books are less valuable to shareholders due to the risk of.losing them and other factors.
mircea_popescu: this is not actually correct. btc on mpex books are more valuable than btc held by users, (and are traded as such)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0975 = 1.2675 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: on the grounds of everyone having managed to lost more wallets in the intervening two years than bitcoin
mircea_popescu: than mpex*
mircea_popescu: in other words, giving "yourself" 100% trust arbitrarily is not well borne by experience.
pankkake: !up poutine
mircea_popescu: 24th done holy shit this is hard work.
Duffer1: what are you up to MP?
mircea_popescu: jus catching up on the logs
Duffer1: oh
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/review-of-the-current-state-of-bitcoin-securities-market.314520/#post-6640456 << ahaha this is so sweet.
assbot: Review of the current state of Bitcoin securities market | Bitcointa.lk
mircea_popescu: so noob hears about bitcoin in 2014, his opinionator goes into overdrive, he writes it all down
mircea_popescu: then goes on bitcointalk to talk about it.
mircea_popescu: \because his wild eyed naivite this is how it works, noobs have something to contribute to the conversation in spite of their complete ignorance of history and where the conversation currently is,
mircea_popescu: and then bitcointalk is the place to do that. i suppose this guy goes around in a toga because nobody told him the roman empire fell i nthe meanwhile.
Duffer1: even odds his losses will approach 90% by this time next year
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0385 = 0.385 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: Duffer1: even odds his losses will approach 90% by this time next year << usually the case for all n00bs
mircea_popescu: 90% odds his losses will be 50% by next year, and yet he'll be misreporting them (to himself) and misbooking them correspondingly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 216 @ 0.038 = 8.208 BTC
thestringpuller: ^- like usagi
mircea_popescu: well of him we publicly know
mircea_popescu: prolly thousands of noobs with unpublished delusitarian books
mircea_popescu: .d
mircea_popescu: ;;diff
gribble: 1.0455720138484837E10
BingoBoingo: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/his-most-eminent-highness-grand-caesar-imperator-goat.318417/page-12#post-6636159
assbot: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat | Page 12 | Bitcointa.lk
mircea_popescu: benkay:
mircea_popescu: >>> AES encryption is applied to the wallet. Passphrase is specified via environment variable PICOCOIN_PASSPHRASE. << god help us.
mircea_popescu: the people who think they have something to say in bitcoin, and the ways their brains work.
thestringpuller: A passphrase stored as an env variable? Like...whaaa?
pankkake: at least it's not command line, lol
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03: can't bring myself to do another router or ip camera << you post these anywhere ?
mircea_popescu: pankkake, what, like bitcoind you mean ?
pankkake: I mean specifiying the passphrase on the command line. gets in process list, in shell history, etc.
mircea_popescu: in ha;f the logs
thestringpuller: you could do echo $PICOCOIN_PASSPHRASE and it's on the cmd line...
mircea_popescu: pankkake, but srsly, bitcoind takes the wallet passphrase as command line
thestringpuller: ^- yes it does
thestringpuller: but if you put a space before the command it doesn't store it in bash history (like that actually helps)
pankkake: well, at least there's the RPC way to do it safely
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure it still ends up in the logs
pankkake: but it probably should not exist, yes
mircea_popescu: pankkake, not really much sagfer, no.
mircea_popescu: it could be made to be safe, of course, but then again so can this (dedicated system)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: oh wow yea you can recover it if you're logging...
mircea_popescu: not if.
mircea_popescu: all oses log. including windowze. out of the box
mircea_popescu: cause you fucking have to
thestringpuller: like in dmsg?
thestringpuller: dmesg*
mircea_popescu: just run it once then sudo grep the system for the pw
mircea_popescu: (don't have to use the right one either)
thestringpuller: daaaaamn
thestringpuller: bitcoind suucks.
thestringpuller: ^- not news tho
Naphex: export HISTFILE=/dev/null
Naphex: :P
mircea_popescu: benkay: if i have to run bitcoind anyways why the fuck not just run bitcoind and take a dep on the whole fuckoff blockchain? << quite.
mircea_popescu: o hai Naphex
Naphex: hey hey
pankkake: by default linux does not filter the ps list, so you don't even need to be the same user
Naphex: been having a very nasty cold since friday, i'm mostly zombie mode
mircea_popescu: pankkake, even if you try to protect it, there';s too many ways logs leak.
pankkake: and then you can catch the bad sysadmins who run mysqldump in crons with password options
mircea_popescu: even csf has holes in it due to the way logs are handled by kernel
pankkake: got your password!
thestringpuller: smh
mircea_popescu: Naphex, im in argentina, it's nice here.
Naphex: how are you fitting in?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: Electrum server isn't SPV. it's SPV-like <<< ahahaha this has just summarized the mental capacity of bitcoin coder ppls. yes, exactly. the code isn't working, it's working-like.
mircea_popescu: Naphex, tis splendid. basically, ba is ny of the 70s.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: is ba your final destination?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 26 @ 0.038 = 0.988 BTC
mircea_popescu: possibly.
mircea_popescu: i don't intend to be buried here if that\s what you mean
mircea_popescu: but yeah, i'll stay a little.
mircea_popescu: benkay: is that stupid? << no.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony, ahahaha, agent mazzotta's office has all the opsec of a chicken coop
fluffypony: :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 103 @ 0.038 = 3.914 BTC
fluffypony: I told the support staff to just close the ticket
fluffypony: but for a while I was tempted to reply:
fluffypony: "Tell Agent Mazzotta the lizard has entered the fibreglass cage of resourcefulness. Do not miss a word. Also tell him that the following message is CICADA 3301-F encoded: OSDJFSH02382oaSDFaweasdFAWr3q23eaq#RWQAE"
mircea_popescu: This is the brand and trademark page for RUNWAY BEAUTY which was created on August 20th, 2007 by Runway Beauty, an CORPORATION. The trademark owner is located at 8637 E. Berridge ln. in Scottsdale, ARIZONA. Runway Beauty can be contacted at 480-361-5012, odci@cox.net
mircea_popescu: is this like...a beautician ?
mircea_popescu: miranda delta prime the runway beauty ?
fluffypony: indeed - I believe he even has a nail technicians license or something
fluffypony: it's the ultimate cover!
mircea_popescu: ill tell you what happened, and you won't like to hear it.
mircea_popescu: a guy by the name mazzotta who happens to be a federal agent contracted for his own garage to have some rig shit delivered. he was gone one day, and his WIFE who is about as clueful as the average blondy
mircea_popescu: (your blondy excluded) decided it'd be a great idea to leak info, so she did.
mircea_popescu: now you have an unduly exposed customer that shall be unhappy to hear about it, if he ever does.
asciilifeform: where is it written that these folks can't enjoy chumpatronics at home while off the clock
mircea_popescu: ^
fluffypony: ok wait, so by day he's a beauty magazine editor
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: he just fucks one.
mircea_popescu: like we all do.
fluffypony: by night he's a CIA agent cum Freemasoner
fluffypony: and on weekends he mines altcoins on his GPU rigs
mircea_popescu: they had an info thing about bitcoin that was widely disseminated
mircea_popescu: which is how most agents heard of bitcoin, and why they think its cool.
punkman: fluffypony, probably should have censored your pastebin
mircea_popescu: the ones that can still think at least.
fluffypony: punkman: why?
fluffypony: I don't live in the USA
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00010231 = 0.1023 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: and even if I did
fluffypony: it's a cox.net email
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: office has all the opsec of a chicken coop << funnily, i live a few km from a masterfully camouflaged, unregistered chicken coop.
mircea_popescu: well cause the poor customer is innocent here.
fluffypony: if it was from @cia.gov it would be different
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, o, they're illegal there ?
punkman: fluffypony: you shouldn't be leaking customer names on principle
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they're usually forbidden in 'residential' zone.
decimation: asciilifeform, I have friends in PG county who had nearly the same thing happen to them - tree roots in the sewer line. It was in one of the "Levittown" areas built out in the 60's
asciilifeform: decimation: exactly this
fluffypony: punkman: if it was a scammer, I'd put his info up on the interwebs without hesitation. This guy is borderline, so he gets borderline dox.
decimation: you can learn much about American "progress" by touring the old suburbs of Washington
mircea_popescu: fluffypony, how is he a scammer at all ?
decimation: homes in the Levittown are small with big lots. New homes are huge with small lots
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: he tried to chargeback after it shipped
fluffypony: only because of his stupidity and unfamiliarity with the PayPal process did it lapse and close
mircea_popescu: oh
benkay: <mircea_popescu> fluffypony: Electrum server isn't SPV. it's SPV-like <<< ahahaha this has just summarized the mental capacity of bitcoin coder ppls. yes, exactly. the code isn't working, it's working-like. // i wept
fluffypony: if he was just innocent and everything was all hunkery-dorkery I would chuckle at the Sekrit Ajint thing and move on
fluffypony: but coupled with the PayPal thing it was just laughable
mircea_popescu: i see where you're comin' from
fluffypony: he's ALSO the guy that told us he was in charge of the 8th largest magazine in the world
mircea_popescu: so you found the next trendon.
fluffypony: when we tried to reach out to him to resolve the PP dispute
fluffypony: "I run the 8th largest magazine in the world"
fluffypony: straight out of the proverbial horse's mouth
fluffypony: and just FYI
fluffypony: it's this guy
fluffypony: https://www.facebook.com/RunwayChief
fluffypony: such sekrit ajint. much CIA. wow.
mircea_popescu: aok
mircea_popescu: meanwhile among the retarded, https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/471014639275626496
assbot: Ahaha funniest shit I saw all week. Hey noobster, /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash IS ALL ABOUT PRIVILEGE. /aantonop @30somethingST Examine your privilege
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00010231 = 0.1023 BTC [-]
fluffypony: what is 30somethingST?
mircea_popescu: no idea.
decimation: mircea_popescu: re: residence location: The quality of humanity surrounding your residence is far more important than the quality of the streets and infrastructure
mircea_popescu: the latter is directly measurable
decimation: well, the latter is a direct consequence of the former as well
mircea_popescu: "The fact that Bitcoin’s followers deeply oppose this sort of aggressive government action explains why their aspirations to building a universal currency aren’t working."
mircea_popescu: arrogant 20something fuckwit....
mircea_popescu: anyway, i invited her over, curious what comes of this.
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626175.0
assbot: [ANN]open business economics (taking crypto to a new level)IPO
mircea_popescu: holy shit i nearly caugfht up on logs omfg i feel so accomplished now
mircea_popescu: !up justusranvier
mircea_popescu: did you get banned off the power rangers lists yet ?
mircea_popescu: jurov: paymum << noit a bad name :D
mircea_popescu: pankkake: :( specifiying bets is hard << you telling me.
mircea_popescu: and i nthe bc.net case, isn't davout actually invested on the no side ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: just saying that "go to the url and login and see if it works" is shitty argument << well ok, but would the pron site allow you to withdraw your bc balances too ?!
kakobrekla: depends, yes on this one <mircea_popescu> http://i.imgur.com/0TRfa2l.png
kakobrekla: brb
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: plain or rich text? << ahaha a new standard is born
mircea_popescu: 100kb/day of rich text!
decimation: bitcoin will stand or fail on its own merits - it doesn't matter if "followers oppose actions"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25850 @ 0.00082392 = 21.2983 BTC [-]
benkay: mircea_popescu: do you plan to incorporate anything in b.a.?
BingoBoingo: benkay: I imagine he's incorporating more steak into his mouth.
mircea_popescu: benkay, yep. hiring a lawyer tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: decimation, word.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, you should see these steaks. new york never had such steak in the past decade.
mircea_popescu: !up phtest
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: My impression of Argentina is that it in reality is what people imagine the better aspects of Texas to be.
benkay: mircea_popescu: i'm interested to hear about what the challenges are down there
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, you're not even very far off.
benkay: <BingoBoingo> mircea_popescu: My impression of Argentina is that it in reality is what people imagine the better aspects of Texas to be. // it's true!
mircea_popescu: benkay, there are no challenges other than being poor.
benkay: myeah that old thing
decimation: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16500874 "The proportions of trans 18:1 and n-6 FA were higher (P<0.001) for both grain-fed beef groups than grass-fed beef. Data from the present study show that grain feeding decreases functional lipid components (long chain n-3 FA and CLA) in Australian beef regardless of meat cuts, while increasing total trans 18:1 and saturated FA levels."
assbot: Effect of feeding systems on omega-3 fa... [Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI
decimation: grass fed cows are healthy; produce healthy meat
asciilifeform: world's smallest cat (oncifelis guigna) is said to live in argentina.
mircea_popescu: anyway, im definitely staying, everyone start saving for next year's conference. i got the hotel, it's a pleasure. you're all getting apartments even! and superb restaurants and everything.
mircea_popescu: 3rd conf will be best conf yet.
BingoBoingo: It's like these derps never heard of BitBet http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoins-predict-future/
assbot: Can Bitcoin Help Predict the Future?
mircea_popescu: !up bitstein
phtest: Hi. Thanks MP for giving me voice. Just lurking for now :)
mircea_popescu: phtest, enjoy. who're you again ?
phtest: Nobody ...
mircea_popescu: aok
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0045734 = 0.1555 BTC [+]
pankkake: decimation: why the sudden paleo propaganda? :)
mircea_popescu: punkman: tourist idiots like to rent them around here, then they end up in a ditch with broken legs << word.
BingoBoingo: http://www.fda.gov/ForIndustry/DataStandards/StructuredProductLabeling/ucm162541.htm
assbot: Flavor
BingoBoingo: The list of FDA approved drug flavorings
decimation: Hey I'm not saying that you have to eat paleo. But all things being equal, it's probably better to eat a cow who ate grass instead of one who was fed grain in a cage
decimation: for more obvious health news: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/05/140521180012.htm walking is healthy, even for old fat derps with heart disease
assbot: Peripheral artery disease: Home-based walking program eases clogged leg arteries -- ScienceDaily
pankkake: I eat paleo, I just wondered why the link from 2006 apparently
decimation: I suspect that Argentinian beef is more likely to be raised free-range than on a feedlot, but I could be wrong
pankkake: I now walk 1 hour a day, used to be 0, spent half my day in bed for months
pankkake: my feet hurt
mircea_popescu: i walked 18 of the past 48 hours.
decimation: I find good shoes and socks are a requirement for pain free walking
mircea_popescu: slept like 10.
pankkake: nice
mircea_popescu: everything hurts. do you know what i do ? i fucking ignore them.
BingoBoingo: Much derp: Facebook, social, moving the decimal point http://www.coindesk.com/facebook-integrated-wallet-makes-sending-bitcoin-easy-messaging/
assbot: Facebook-Integrated Wallet Makes Sending Bitcoin as Easy as Messaging
pankkake: at that point in my life, pain is just some random information :/ I'm bene gesserit level
mircea_popescu: lol wd.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: walked 18 of the past 48 hours << lol, same!
mircea_popescu: it keeps a body younmg
decimation: Mircea you should move back to new zealand, healthy food, relatively unpopulated
decimation: true there's horrible earthquakes, but the people rebuild pretty quickly apparently
pankkake: does it have kangaroos?
decimation: no, but it does have flightless birds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 5 @ 0.038 = 0.19 BTC
fluffypony: decimation: it also has the All Blacks
fluffypony: which I think is reason enough not to move there
mircea_popescu: i never was in nz tho ?
fluffypony: maybe he misunderstood the Christchurch, NZ comment
mircea_popescu: yeah. nz was an option i didn't take
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0001663 = 0.1663 BTC [+]
fluffypony: yeah, and once you move to South Africa you won't want to leave
fluffypony: now if only BitBet allowed longer bets
fluffypony: "MP to move to South Africa before May 26th, 2024"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00082392 = 2.1834 BTC [-]
decimation: I thought you had scouted Christchurch before settling in Romania, or perhaps it was only by spreadsheet
jurov: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-16/where-worlds-unsold-cars-go-die
assbot: Where the World's Unsold Cars Go To Die | Zero Hedge
jurov: !up cads
jurov: !up turbo_ac100
turbo_ac100: jurov: are you upping the lazy?#
jurov: just procrastinating
BingoBoingo: jurov: http://jalopnik.com/that-zero-hedge-article-on-unsold-cars-is-bullshit-1578124255
assbot: That Zero Hedge Article On Unsold Cars Is Bullshit
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2014#681363 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
turbo_ac100: I'm debugging sound in fuckin manjaro. It's a disgrace... So 2000 :/
BingoBoingo: Well I've done test installs of OpenBSD on my machines. Only unsupported hardware is the wifi card in the laptop I'm on now.
turbo_ac100: A new notebook I recon?
BingoBoingo: turbo_ac100: No, a X120e, 2011 model Lenovo
BingoBoingo: Even the GPU works
BingoBoingo: The fucking AMD GPU works, but not the onboard realtek RTL8188CE
BingoBoingo: Apparently the USB version of this chipset works spectacularly. Just not the mini-pcie card.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0975 = 0.2925 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell decimation it was by advance party. like i do these things/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: lenovo is the sux
BingoBoingo: The build is durable. It is really all I ask for in a portable machine.
mircea_popescu: durable it is yea. not great for compatibility issues, tho.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on twitter, https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/471034471358414848
assbot: Ahaha funniest shit I saw all week. Hey noobster, /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash IS ALL ABOUT PRIVILEGE. /aantonop @30somethingST Examine your privilege
mircea_popescu: and im out for the partying now. bbs.
BingoBoingo: This is the first portable where when the battery life became unbearably short I actually ponied up for a new OEM battery.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00082018 = 8.1198 BTC [-]
Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: nope. i should start a blog
Mats_cd03: BingoBoingo: theres just something about the design thats timeless
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: One of my favorite parts when lugging it around campus was it's theft deterrent design.
Mats_cd03: even the clit, which is aggravating even when the stars are aligned
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: realtek is an infamous turdmeister
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Yeah. In 2011 I was ignorant and didn't know to look.
asciilifeform: not that you can easily obtain a laptop without it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00458512 = 0.2293 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: I think I might get a usb dongle.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: usb lan is hell on the cpu
pankkake: it's what I did with my thinkpad… got a realtek usb that worked much better than the realtek pci-e on linux
BingoBoingo: Everything's hell on the CPU
pankkake: http://www.alfa.com.tw/products_show.php?pc=34&ps=92 that thing. it's hungry in every way
assbot: 500 Internal Server Error
asciilifeform: pankkake: aha, famous 'wardriving' classic
asciilifeform: seems like everyone i know owns one
pankkake: yeah. it works really well. also bought a big-ass antenna
fluffypony: I have two, but yeah, not very battery friendly
fluffypony: but back-in-the-days it was *the* promiscuous wifi dongle to have
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 19698 @ 0.00009939 = 1.9578 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/05/26/1922207/organic-cat-litter-may-have-caused-nuclear-waste-accident
assbot: Organic Cat Litter May Have Caused Nuclear Waste Accident - Slashdot
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00082047 = 1.6409 BTC [+]
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/05/26/isnt-it-beautiful/
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: reminds me of a time when i stowed some stuff in plastic garbage bags, then discovered they were... biodegradable. turned to astonishing quantity of dust. when vacuuming old flat, found fragments - years after the fact. ☟︎
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.0045869 = 0.4128 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Ah, when I was living in Missouri I learned that scorpions apparently love settling in cardboard.
benkay: what's the browser, BingoBoingo ?
BingoBoingo: benkay: Lynx
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.46070011 = 9.214 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: I always test my websites under lynx
BingoBoingo: I consider it target #1 for web design
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00082047 = 0.8205 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1040 @ 0.00418236 = 4.3497 BTC [-] {28}
fluffypony: links, plx.
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: penguirker should have you covered
fluffypony: I meant Links the browser
pankkake: what about w3m!
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: I dunno what you are running. Just install it and behold the glory.
fluffypony: http://links.twibright.com
assbot: Twibright Labs: Links
dub: links just adds porn to lynx
fluffypony: dub: ed zachery
asciilifeform: i get up for half hour and now 'lynx' is news!
asciilifeform: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 1500 @ 0.00021726 = 0.3259 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.48965382 = 9.3034 BTC [+] {8}
benkay: everything old is new again
benkay: hipsters
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0385 = 0.385 BTC [-]
benkay: lynx
benkay: common lisp
benkay: forth
benkay: emacs
benkay: gpg
kakobrekla: even funckin irc is old.
asciilifeform: wonder if everybody who grew up in '90s thought, as i did, 'i didn't sign up to be a classicist damnit'
asciilifeform: in vernor vinge's 'fire upon the deep' sf universe, there is a profession of 'software archaeologist'
Duffer1: one of my favorite books
Duffer1: deepness in the sky was a bit better imo
benkay: some days software archaeology is all i do
benkay: cost for maintenance of legacy systems starts at 2x the greenfield rate with another factor proportionate to the number of lines of code, another proportionate to number of servers involved, and a third proportionate to how deep the clients pockets are.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 67 @ 0.00236 = 0.1581 BTC [+] {2}
bitcoinpete: ahoy
bitcoinpete: davout: meanwhile, dotcoin is getting buttraepd << schweetest news today
pankkake: where?
davout: well, he's in "scheduled maintenance"
davout: but somehow has forgotten to schedule an "end of maintenance" :D
davout: imma read some bitcoin news in the meantime
benkay: "oops sorry hacked"
benkay: i can't believe you people read bitcoin news instead of wsj or something
benkay: and the forums etc
bitcoinpete: benkay: lol
bitcoinpete: ya, wsj blogs are even free
bitcoinpete: http://www.mises.org/daily/6759/Inside-Venices-Secession-Movement
assbot: Inside Venices Secession Movement - Paolo Bernardini - Mises Daily
bitcoinpete: from that coinomat tard: "Bitcoin community can be considered a community of accredited investors after all"
bitcoinpete: this line of thinking has caused untold butthurt
bitcoinpete: and will continue to until such time as some humble pie is gobbled
bitcoinpete: also left coinomat a comment, pending...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26450 @ 0.00081899 = 21.6623 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082047 = 3.2819 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]
bloctoc: looking for eve online war logs to see if there is any relevance to mpoe price.
Mats_cd03: BingoBoingo: I was at leonard wood for a few years...theres a good reason the state is a homophone for misery. Endless days of 90-105F in the summer at 95% humidity...couldn't be worse than hell
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17730 @ 0.00082047 = 14.5469 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: Tornados though, those are cool. Saw a few touch down and wreck rows of homes...i made a special effort to see it, nevar forget
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49728362 = 0.9946 BTC [+] {2}
Mats_cd03: but seriously that humidity. sucks the moisture out of your body in minutes. i normally consumed a quart of water each hour the sun was up when doin field exercises... still pissed bright yellow
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: There are enjoyable places in Missouri like Columbia, but yes the weather sucks through the whole state.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00410053 = 0.164 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Incapable of being hot and dry.
bitcoinpete: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/good-news/mourning-goat-reunited-best-friend-ends-hunger-strike-163550205.html
assbot: Depressed goat is reunited with best friend, ends hunger strike | Good News - Yahoo News Canada
bitcoinpete: 5th most popular article on ynews...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49799957 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: http://deadspin.com/5984350/the-coming-war-a-military-doctors-field-guide-to-masturbating-in-afghanistan/1581636015/+deadspineditors
assbot: A Combat Doctor's Field Guide To Masturbating In Afghanistan
bitcoinpete: lol @ darkcoin
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/zedomax/status/471058660307656704
assbot: /hashtag/darkcoin?src=hash frozen on both cryptsy & mintpal, once fork issue is fixed price should rally again so don't worry and HOLD.
bitcoinpete: down 22% today
bitcoinpete: 21.32%...
Apocalyptic: the loltron at its best
BingoBoingo: http://valleywag.gawker.com/rap-genius-cofounder-resigns-over-comments-on-elliot-ro-1581741873/+gabriellebluestone
assbot: Rap Genius Cofounder Resigns Over Comments On Elliot Rodger Manifesto
mircea_popescu: hola
Apocalyptic: hey mircea
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu moved to jupiter, not .ar!
mircea_popescu: que pasa
asciilifeform: already slept, woke, slept...
mircea_popescu: lol. the interwebs are just dubious, tis not jupiter tho
mircea_popescu: jupiterrible.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0975 = 0.975 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <Mats_cd03> even the clit, which is aggravating even when the stars are aligned << wait what ? the C.L.I.T. ?
asciilifeform: the thinkpad one i assume
mircea_popescu: ;;google "we are the masters of the clit. i made that shit work"
gribble: Jay and Silent Bob - Clit Commander - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N8Ta0v7dSM>; The Clit Commander - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4-ChcL6Pzo>; clit master - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAFurpRpVH0>
mircea_popescu: <bloctoc> looking for eve online war logs to see if there is any relevance to mpoe price. << now that's diggin' deep.
asciilifeform: http://io9.com/these-radio-frequency-blocking-clothes-will-keep-you-of-1579481611
assbot: These Radio Frequency-Blocking Clothes Will Keep You Off The Grid
asciilifeform: ^ linked from the 'masturbate in afghanistan' site
asciilifeform: i immediately recognized the cloth
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, "The Ebay/Paypal breech" you mean braach ?
asciilifeform: it's silver-impregnated silk, etc. there is, afaik, only one manufacturer
asciilifeform: i've bought from them. (comfy eeg electrode pads to sleep in)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You do your own sleep studies?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: did.
bloctoc: mircea_popescu I'm not looking for statistical significance or anything, just wanted to see if a biggish price drop happened after a big battle was lost.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00081623 = 5.2647 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: bloctoc: 1BTC never really gamed that way.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.000815 = 1.1818 BTC [-]
bloctoc: are they wussies?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, they lend plex out i hear
bloctoc: don't answer that wussies thing. I vow to stop trolling
bloctoc: but it sounds like 1BTC doesn't affect the price of mpoe?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'd have to get the client installed again, might be a while
mircea_popescu: bloctoc, likely not
BingoBoingo: I have to say shares of 1BTC were one of my better investing decisions.
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 155 @ 0.00250926 = 0.3889 BTC [+]