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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right. ( keep in mind, currently asciilifeform knows very little re subj, aside from diana_coman's mpi works )
asciilifeform: lol diana_coman neato
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-26#1829660 << you could just add the manifest in a patch, like diana_coman did for eucrypt. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 20:19 diana_coman set up The Incredible Machine dos-version even for said child and he's totally hooked
lobbes: makes sense. I was going to say, diana_coman must have shiva-arms extending from brain
mircea_popescu: so did diana_coman 's eucrypt.
KimuSan^: diana_coman: it's called baby steps.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: normally it takes longer, but asciilifeform's dosimeter already maxed out. this one's all yours.
asciilifeform: mod6, mircea_popescu : it was my understanding that mircea_popescu & diana_coman wanted a test bed, and will eventually swap back to orig s.mg box; so not clear if the spare needs a full adult raid
mod6: And what we're proposing is this: 1) the bitcoin foundation will give S.MG its SAMSUNG 1tb ssd - we can get that drive into the hot-spare-environment and get it racked in the next i.e. 48 hours. This will allow diana_coman to boot up and do whatever testing/gymnstaics she needs. meanwhile 2) Pizarro will make 1st order of 5 1tb ssds from shitazon and have those shipped asap. They should arrive by about mid
asciilifeform: trinque: luckily asciilifeform already baked kernel config for the type of machine diana_coman has ( tho it potentially can be further trimmed )
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:28 diana_coman: trinque, if I understand it correctly, I could have a cuntoo right now and move later on to v-tree but a. there is some work to be done to configure it properly for the exact pizarro hardware b. it's unclear whether I'll be able to emerge (i.e. build musltronically) all the stuff I need ; correct?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 14:35 trinque: diana_coman: I have updated the script you last tried, such that it again works. What I have not completed is the v-tree which is to replace imperial portage.
trinque: diana_coman: I have updated the script you last tried, such that it again works. What I have not completed is the v-tree which is to replace imperial portage. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: depending on how far cuntoo is from flight-readiness ( trinque , any idea ? ) this may be worth doing in your case
asciilifeform: diana_coman: hence why i said 'rotor buildroot env'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you were making simply a musltronic version of euloratron, it could be done rotor-style (buildroot env) . but sounds like you want cuntoo straight away.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 08:34 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827895 <- my (possibly naive) idea was to try first on conventional gentoo by recompiling with musltronic gcc what I need; asciilifeform perhaps knows upfront: would it work to (re-)emerge libs such as zlib and libmysqlclient using the musltronic-gcc?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 20:33 ben_vulpes: diana_coman: why does it need to be wholly separate machine? i think something might have flown over my head
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 20:38 asciilifeform: earlier diana_coman requested conventional gentoo. what'll it be ?
asciilifeform: earlier diana_coman requested conventional gentoo. what'll it be ? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: why does it need to be wholly separate machine? i think something might have flown over my head ☟︎☟︎
mod6: diana_coman: If not ASAP, that helps, any available guidence on your time horizon for this to be racked & working is helpful.
mod6: <+diana_coman> asciilifeform, BingoBoingo it is NOT asap, no; take your time, no hurry << barring a straight out emergency, I can't get away at the moment. About a month ago, I was trying to plan a trip around end of July; but now, that's locked out.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mircea_popescu if you need this box asap, it is possible to pull the hot spare from primary and make a single-disked staging box out of the spare.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to correct the above disk spec if necessary
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> diana_coman: plox to gpggram BingoBoingo re necessary qty of FGs, the raid geometry to use ( 5? 10? ) , necessary # of nic connections, he will bring up the box. << The server needs drives to set up a raid
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you don't need cuntoo to build musl executables, ave1's gnat does this on an ~arbitrary linux. ( via similar method as the 2015 'rotor' item )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: can, with certain known exceptions ( emacs, mainly , per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-19#1827118 thrd ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: re linkers, musl lib can only be linked with other musl libs, but prolly diana_coman already knew this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman which linking issues ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: will you be installing cuntoo ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to gpggram BingoBoingo re necessary qty of FGs, the raid geometry to use ( 5? 10? ) , necessary # of nic connections, he will bring up the box.
mircea_popescu: in other news, diana_coman reports that we've actually managed moving the actual server on a .gpr process ; there's some remaining problems with linking bits, but seem perhaps resolvable.
asciilifeform: currently we have mod6 , danielpbarron , trinque , BingoBoingo , diana_coman , esthlos .
asciilifeform: errything from uruguay, argentina, weirdos, to diana_coman's taxed FUCKGOATS , etc
a111: Logged on 2018-06-15 13:10 diana_coman: phf, please add the last 2 patches of eucrypt: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/05/03/eucrypt-chapter-13-smg-rng/ and http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/06/15/eucrypt-manifest-file/
asciilifeform: ... jurov ? diana_coman ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, you selling wm ? any q really.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: neato
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of ave1 from 2 to 3 << made the very useful scripts to compile gnat for various architectures as well as other useful ada & ada+c bits; does a lot and talks a little, always on point though; writes at ave1.org
a111: Logged on 2018-06-03 18:51 diana_coman: will do tomorrow and report back
asciilifeform: diana_coman: very spiffy; i have added your tests to the FG www links.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: all you gotta do is build, then put the tarball on your rc box, extract, and add to .bashrc e.g. PATH="/home/stas/gnat/aarch64-linux-musl-native/bin/:$PATH"; export PATH and you're up & running.
asciilifeform: diana_coman : musltronic gnat on arm64 confirmed to work !
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, yeah
mircea_popescu: hanbot, diana_coman plox look into adding one.
deedbot: diana_coman rated shinohai 1 at 2016/09/03 22:20:37 << Held many euloran noob hands.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-30 12:10 diana_coman: esthlos, "is expected to read and understood before use" -> to read and understand the code?
asciilifeform: iirc diana_coman is waiting for the amd64 one.
trinque: asciilifeform: yes, shitgnomes in both the gentoo and musl-overlay portage trees continued their brownian motion and diana_coman for example couldn't build, one day
mircea_popescu: you were there for the threads, neh, diana_coman working with ave1 to get it going ?
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Answered http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/28/learning-portage-together-building-php-5-6-on-arm64-rockchip-gentoo/#comment-115101
lobbes: Oh hey. Ty BingoBoingo for that php5.6-on-gentoo-rockchip guide. I will try it out (paging diana_coman)
lobbes: diana_coman: I've been on a quest for the last few days trying to get a LAMP running on my rockchip. I was getting barfs on emerging php-5.6 but managed to at least get php 7.2.4 installed
spyked: mircea_popescu, I'm not sure what you mean. lemme explain: the rss bot depends on ircbot and other pieces (some imported from heathenlands, some written by scratch from yours truly). from my reading so far, (e.g. diana_coman's use of MPI in Eucrypt) I dun see this as a strictly solved problem. I could a. make a new genesis consisting of ircbot + rss bot + all dependencies, or b. genesis rss bot alone (and mention ircbot + all others as
deedbot: Mocky rated diana_coman 1 << helped me get started in eulora, has written a lot of helpful blog posts
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 22:41 diana_coman: douchebag, from here it really looks like your end goal is really "that the world finally finds my hobby extremely useful and terribly important to the point that it ALSO becomes very meaningful"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1817082 >> no, actually. most women want to http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#selection-133.57-133.334 ; which is the point of diana_coman 's http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816974 comment (not that she's a woman ; but it's not clear to her whether your worldview is womanly in this sense). note importantly that the objection is ~re the source of meaning~, which is a cult ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, in either case the determination is tather premature. what's the rush. if he's a boy he has time by definition.
douchebag: diana_coman: I'd imagine that only companies who actually care about their security would purchase my services
douchebag: diana_coman: I'd like to offer commercial penetration testing services
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'd like to determine if 'short because boy' or 'short because dwarf'
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 16:55 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815927 << i'll take a look, i had further comments about diana_coman's original spec and the responses, but does this new spec replaces the other one entirely?
phf: diana_coman: ty
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815927 << i'll take a look, i had further comments about diana_coman's original spec and the responses, but does this new spec replaces the other one entirely? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: hey, i got good news for you : a) BingoBoingo escaped to uruguay on the strength of pizarro ; and diana_coman started her s.mg career as an effectual player.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:52 mod6: diana_coman: i simply mean, mircea_popescu rented the thing for the guy. 'tis all.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 20:19 mod6: Don't be like me, set your system time, first thing, diana_coman.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> diana_coman: i simply mean, mircea_popescu rented the thing for the guy. 'tis all. << MP rented the thing because the guy can't
mod6: diana_coman: i simply mean, mircea_popescu rented the thing for the guy. 'tis all. ☟︎
lobbes: diana_coman: ah okay. gotcha
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 21:28 asciilifeform: diana_coman: steps to replicate: 0) on a machine WITH A WORKING GNAT (e.g. adacore's , and it must be in your path already ) 1 ) download the tarball from http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-with-partial-and-parallel-build-support 2) unpack tarball ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15.tgz , go to the dir 3) mkdir bin << this is where the built binariola will live 4) ./build-ada.sh /home/foo/temp/ada/ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15/bin
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there are 2 known gnat codebase 'forks' , 'fsf'/gnu and adacore
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i.e. with fsf's gnat ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 09:00 diana_coman: well, I'd rather cross compile too if it works because then I can use the rockchip as launchpad for everything else, why not
asciilifeform: now what i do not know is what diana_coman et al would think of this, iirc s.mg includes a substantial ball of cpp
ave1: asciilifeform, hmm I had it disabled but it is seems to have crept back in. (this is also why is currently failes for diana_coman).
ave1: diana_coman, I will try myself too, but need to do some disk shuffling first (I do not have enough room available). Could you send me the config.log in build/build-bootstrap/binutils-2.25.1/build1?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 21:50 diana_coman: and fwiw I tried running from there also ./aarch64-musl-linux-cpp -> same result
ave1: diana_coman, Sure no problem, I'll put it on the site and send a link. Which one did you try?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 19:51 diana_coman: ave1, if I want to test your gnat-building script what steps should I follow so that I have at the end of it maximum info re what works/doesn't and in what context exactly?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: unless you found and fixed ave1's mistake, you will have same eggogy arm64 gnat as i do
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 21:55 diana_coman: aha, why I chose the other one; but I can try the native one anyway too, sure
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect mistake : cuz i see http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gi3gH/?raw=true
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what does readelf -h aarch64-musl-linux-gcc give you ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, it builds an arm AND a x86 item. using the right one ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 1 suggested test, will be to build the thing on itself , on arm
asciilifeform: if diana_coman 's arm64 test pans out, this item will be included in the standard rockchip kit from that point on.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: want the tarball ? ( i have not tested it )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: recall, gnat is a (mostly) ada proggy.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, whole thing is bootstrapping gnatbox.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: classic symptom of botched 6->5->4 gymnastics
asciilifeform: diana_coman: steps to replicate: 0) on a machine WITH A WORKING GNAT (e.g. adacore's , and it must be in your path already ) 1 ) download the tarball from http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-with-partial-and-parallel-build-support 2) unpack tarball ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15.tgz , go to the dir 3) mkdir bin << this is where the built binariola will live 4) ./build-ada.sh /home/foo/temp/ada/ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15/bin ☟︎
asciilifeform: aaaaaaaand ave1 diana_coman mircea_popescu it built compiler ( ' Native compiler prefix built by musl-cross aarch64-linux-musl-native ' )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: fwiw mine's still going...
a111: Logged on 2018-03-14 03:13 trinque: diana_coman: regarding your cuntoo build problem, net-tools upstream has apparently broken build on default gcc-4.9.4. If I pass -std=gnu99, the definer of IFNAMSIZ is included and the thing builds.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-14#1787780 << might even be *more* package breakage now than when diana_coman tried. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, for a while 35 was actually the default exponent in the circus circle.