mircea_popescu: fortunately it's a whole pile of source that nobody could possibly ever want,
mircea_popescu: i deeply care python 3 won't build without gcc 6 hurr.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so why not have two rows line normal people. started at 1 0 then moved to 0 7842 then ended at 0 4990
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, for eg danielpbarron has that selling eulora boxes thing.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure this guy will actually send you one if you pay him ; as opposed to the other one.
mircea_popescu: but if you're going to have a standard os you're going to have a standard os.
mircea_popescu: well, 1 is better than 0. it's not like there's 2 and i'm proposing one quit.
mircea_popescu: i'd say add it, you know, "or you could buy a preinstalled laptop"
danielpbarron: i bought some reddit ad time for it but nothing ever came of it
mircea_popescu: well... if you feel like documenting it so i'm not the only one explaining how reddit is worth < than the slashdot's coupla mil, lock stock and barrel...
danielpbarron: relatedly, i have a FG listed for auction on ebay at the moment.
danielpbarron: even the buy it now price is a good deal if the price is still 0.0395
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo so why not have two rows line normal people. started at 1 0 then moved to 0 7842 then ended at 0 4990 << NSA and MG had not been notating fiatolade, so I assumed how to handle an open question. Will put together a leperolade line
BingoBoingo: Kinda why I waited to deed it. Gotta publish the statement with the open questions, let powers greater than myself comment.
lobbes: in archive news: through leveraging a bash script comb for urls appearing in teh logs on btcbase (hats off to phf for the impressive historic span), I was able to compile a list of ~142000 links dating back to August 2012.
☟︎ lobbes: That list has been fed into the Archivierungsprozess. Gonna let it chug along and will report results.
jurov: mod6: ben_vulpes: have you decided about forked coins on foundation's address? should i report them, or sell, or they don't exist?
deedbot: sina_ voiced for 30 minutes.
mod6: jurov: I personally haven't considered it. We'll get back to you on that.
mircea_popescu: in other machine-made lulz,
http://archive.is/rdZnl : the title is "the comehack" for some reason, but the header is me walkin' with a newspaper wrapped machete in hand.
shinohai: all your forkcoin belong to shinohai
mircea_popescu: let me take this opportunity to point out to asciilifeform that his first item in the epic ffa write-up was dec 1st. this is dec 4th. wasn't it supposed to be a 1 hour apart publishing or what's going on there ?
mircea_popescu: also lettuce announce there's going to be a nov-dec joint qntra statement.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no problem, as long as clearly communicated.
mircea_popescu: and there's nothing wrong with a weekly rhythm of it either, gives reader chance to follow along.
mircea_popescu: make sure you don't miss days though, people who build up pented excitement get VERY pissy.
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the riyadh bombing : the "scud defense" thing is particularily lulzy because the scud's chief characteristic is how inaccurate it is.
mircea_popescu: "oh, we shot it down". well... considering 99% launches fail to touch target... "safe lie"
mircea_popescu: basically the claim here seems to be that "if they hit anything, they hit the body after warhead separation", which seems a satisfactory description of fact.
mircea_popescu: anyway, flew 1k km, missed target by 1km. perfectly in line with scud capabilities. kinda why it's not much used, either.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the sagittarius of tmsr is mired in teh potomac swamps.
mircea_popescu: i thought one was supposed to loathe details and conspiracy theories, at that.
mircea_popescu: "Immediate family members are therefore personally responsible for substantial payments to the Court should Mr. Manafort not" << lulzy.
mircea_popescu: im guessing this is how it's going from now on, "send your kids over, i'll fuck 'em while you perform"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this facebook thing... used to be a great bureaucrat's toy in the days when the inca was smaller and still struggling to infest medical profession. "supoenad records", some doctors mentally slow enough to imagine they held the only copy.
mircea_popescu: then it was exactly what SOPS likes, a meta-discussion.
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform just ate his bday caek, made by pet from studying ro material re hungarian caeks. it was quite spiffy. << Happy birthday
BingoBoingo: Ty, I just finished the check in for departure tomorrow
mircea_popescu: you see it everywhere, from the supreme court all the way down to obscure daycare
http://www.27bslash6.com/flash.html (" He denied having the drive which means he knew he shouldn't have it here then it was found in his bag so I feel the punishment is suitable." ) sorta thing
BingoBoingo: Nah, departure from STL is 14:30 GMT 5.12.17
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, so check out imperial poverty. manafort dude has "homes" ie real estate picassos worth maybe 11mn and loans outstanding worth 12 ? so he is "rich" because he's in the red 1e6 as opposed to poorer plebs only allowed in the red 1e4 or 1e5 ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-04 17:41 mircea_popescu: im guessing this is how it's going from now on, "send your kids over, i'll fuck 'em while you perform"
mircea_popescu: this is the new us citizen pay class, "How deep in the red may you arbitrarily sign yourself, where may is used in the sense of must" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not the "full faith and credit of the united states", no.
mircea_popescu: american exceptionalism is getting raped pretty good these days.
BingoBoingo ended up upgrading self to "economy plus" during seat selection because windows, TBI accounts not charged for move taken out of BingoBoingo's drive to sightsee
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Since at least 1600's in algophone world if you trace it to debtor's prisons. Per Lafond's research into white slavery concept also present in acquiring prisoners for indenture and other servitudes
BingoBoingo: No importa que, colonial us is a nonsense labelism
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the point i was perhaps understatedly making is that the LEGAL profession is now under attack from the red brigades. they fought the doctors in the court system for 30-40 years (whiole the idiot lawyers looked on, thinking they're special)
mircea_popescu: now, dude married to lawyer and with lawyer daughter, ie, core of the profession, is being "indicted", as if this were even fucking permissible.
mircea_popescu: but i think the message is pretty well out : "mr/mrs/miss manafort can't defend themselves. what are you srtill doing in the reich ?"
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> all asciilifeform can add is that you can tell where in usa there is a courthouse, because for many miles around there is an infestation of 'bail bondsmen', 'bond loans', 'bail', shopfronts. << Locally bail bondsman is far from courthouse. Local DA provides "cheapest" bail bond, and who gets arrested...
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and also places where prisoners are forced to buy (yes) own gps collars << Now, this is everywhere but rent rather than buy
mircea_popescu: made WRONG assumptions about reality and the nature of the world vehehehery much in the vein of "just like the great socialist state "works for you" because you uncritically assign all the good it had no part in creating to it and all the ill it actually created to imaginary racists, misogynists and other terrorists."
mircea_popescu: but they are dissolving. who knew that us real estate is worthless! o noes!
mircea_popescu: who knew that the ~only physically dangerous place to live is the us! o noes!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is your own perferred, familiar nonsense. has 0 relation to reality.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-04#1746199 << because exactly as i say : he assigned universals ("the sun rises in the morning! BECAUSE STALIN!") to the socialist state ; and the very disasters caused by that socialist state to imaginary "everyone else everywhere else". guess what, it WASN'T the terrorists that came busting down the door. it was... the socialists he worked for.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-04 18:00 asciilifeform: then why exactly did he not move, if he had with what.
mircea_popescu: he takes the sentence "i am rich here as i'd be anywhere ; and i can't buy anything for it here unlike anywhere else" and turns it into "i am rich here because usg made me rich ; and i can't buy anything here or anywhere else because non-usg". whether he verbalizes that "non-usg" as "the most serene republic" or "black people" or "islam" or "patriarchy" or what have you, it's still what it is.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 17:45 pete_dushenski: shkreli stuck around nato making billions in pharma industry SO THAT HE COULD MAKE PREVIOUSLY SCAMMED INVESTORS WHOLE
mircea_popescu: the empire assigning universals to itself and its own failures to non-itself.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. we keep having it, esltards be esltards.
mircea_popescu: this is like rhino saying "i'm not sure whether my horn is useful in general or not really". well... if it is cancer, you want it ablated asap.
mircea_popescu: and this is the definition of cancer : growth not universally useful.
mircea_popescu: so here : if usg.rich is NOT everywhere.rich, then all portions of it that actually are not must be cut off. yesterday, not tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: i never heard anyone go "well... if i can keep on going with this tumour maybe it turns out it was actually useful, who knows".
mircea_popescu: tumors get cut out the moment they are identified. for the very reason.
mircea_popescu: hey, most prostate cancers go untreated because they are SO SLOW that by the time they appear, the victim is already marked for death from other causes.
mircea_popescu: "why should we operate this tumor liable to kill this patient in 5 to 10 years when his circulatory system will do him in within 18 months at the most"
a111: Logged on 2017-12-01 23:19 mircea_popescu: guy was a major... well, like bill gates, or khodorovsky, however you call the faux business men produced by governments. except in ro, so he's talking 1e7 rather than 1e10
mircea_popescu: much like asbestos roofing worker works to make roof, ends up with mesothelioma in the process.
mircea_popescu: there's humongous difference between gates, entirely intellectually nil, and buffett, intelligent ox.
mircea_popescu: well, tell him for me that there's nothing wrong with obscenity in principle, perhaps with a link to a choice image from the logs
deedbot: scatha voiced for 30 minutes.
scatha: asciilifeform: thanks, just checking :) hope all is well over there, saw qntra down and a strange chinese message on trilema
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-04#1746081 << i can, by the way, give you (or anyone who wants it really) an ongoing feed of urls, which might be a bit saner, than trying to wget a bunch of html pages, and then attempt to reverse them
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-04 08:43 lobbes: in archive news: through leveraging a bash script comb for urls appearing in teh logs on btcbase (hats off to phf for the impressive historic span), I was able to compile a list of ~142000 links dating back to August 2012.
phf: i have some internal feeds that, for example, return messages in terms of "since=<id>", so by tracking what was the latest message id that you processed, you can have incremental processing
lobbes: phf: Guess I should've inquired beforehand; would've saved myself some work with the historical walk :P
lobbes: As for processing urls 'going forward' I got a bot sitting in chan that snarfs urls as they come and keeps it in a 'to-be-processed' database. Still, having redundant data sources couldn't hurt. I would definitely be interested in url streams
phf: lobbes: yeah, it took me about 5 minutes to produce a list of urls including coding :p
phf: it takes about 12 seconds to walk the log for all the messages containing "
http" and then narrow it down with a somewhat hairy regex that i found somewhere some time ago
a111: Logged on 2016-12-11 16:18 mircea_popescu: in other news, today i learned a chinese! it goes like so : 和我一起，那是你的婊子掴你进监狱，并与所有的民族疯人院
mircea_popescu: worst source of breakage in the entire field,. this youtube crap.
phf: mircea_popescu: i'll investigate a bit the specific mechanics of failure in this case, but there are certain situations where unicode search doesn't necessarily work
phf: this is because word break doesn't understand that 和 and 我 are words and no punctuation is required for breaking it up. there lies dragon territory
a111: Logged on 2017-12-04 19:37 mircea_popescu: totally would love a substitute.
mircea_popescu: the other problem i'm confronting is that i don't now remember what the chinese even meant.
mircea_popescu: so i guess trilema joins thereby the sad legion of hos with tramp stamps.
phf: sure search_it_form_me(table, tokenize(query))
phf: it's fundamentally two different approaches, bvulpes's thing relies on a lot of pre-written code that comes with postgresql, mine, for better or for worse, is custom written. the approach that postgresql uses is much more elaborate than what i'm doing. (for example they have explicit lexing phase both for search and for indexing, that takes care of language specific break up of sentences)
mircea_popescu: aaaah. the bit is a chinese version of that romanian curse the french speaking chick learned phonetically for her role in occident.
phf: i have some idea of how to fix this issue though. for example i can treat characters from certain unicode planes (anything higher than latin-1) as grep
mircea_popescu: i don't really think it's much of an issue altogether, except for the part where it fails to find a line for ascii search.
phf: yeah, i think that's a bug unrelated to moon language
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the principal problem is that no good text formats for video.
phf: it funny if you search for star wars ascii telnet second link is youtube
phf: but it's telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
phf: also it most definitely uses ansi sequences for redraw and character positioning
BingoBoingo: lol, looks like new twist on same old shit
deedbot: gribble voiced for 30 minutes.
davout: asciilifeform: happy birthday!
davout: also in case BingoBoingo hasn't already left for the other hemisphere I wish him safe travel!
deedbot: hangtree voiced for 30 minutes.