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mircea_popescu: here's the scheme : whatever usg affiliate, be it goldman sachs or herpy q derp that holds any sum of btc will lend it to the usg btc policy bureau in exchange for fiat guarantees.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pretty much every single major sucking of chumps change you will see from about q1 onwards will be and has been a psyops riding on top of a usg-backed institutional lending for shorts
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: usg << one possible explanatory hypothesis for why they bought straight from the vendor instead of mircea_popescu's short
ben_vulpes: yeah, i get it i read it, but whence the source? there was the usms sale which is theoretically trickling into the market, and the ether sale which may or may not be trickling into the market. the former, clearly usg. the latter as well?
ben_vulpes: or btc sent to ether addr is loan to usg?
ben_vulpes: or meta-usg/
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ether is a loan to the usg?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes kinda what the usg needs, more loans of this type.
asciilifeform: he thinks usg << could've, too, if the hearts had bled on schedule. bullet whistled by.
decimation: he thinks usg will stop bitcoin - I don't find that a very credible thesis.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i'd love to read the canaltalkforums where all the "business ceos" go to ipo for their new dig projects and special usg contracts
mircea_popescu: ;;rate etotheipi -10 usg plant. helps nsa in every way he can, lies about it every chance he gets.
ascii_at_beach: 'kindly install this trojan, for the good of the Motherland. sincerely, usg.'
asciilifeform: 'ses' are the people who actually run usg.
decimation: this goes back to Mircea's point - USG "wants" things, but it can't really afford them - it's running on the "fumes" of past memories
asciilifeform: fluffypony: if tonight he checks in hardcoded root pw for usg, will you install new ver.?
asciilifeform can't help but suspect a 'laundry' for stolen/usg-snarfed/etc coin
asciilifeform: SUPER RICH couldn't do what they wanted << they contracted it out. to usg.
decimation: re: drillbit << even usg safes are rated for only 10 minutes forced entry
decimation: http://www.fedsafes.com/X-09_locks.php << asciilifeform note USG uses electric locks... with a dial
asciilifeform: decimation: nitpick. usg-blessed safes are optimized for tamper-evidence, rather than absolute strength
decimation: afaik high-leve usg safes are 2 hours
decimation: another usg foreign policy success
decimation: re: danger to usg agents: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/05/man-in-afghan-army-uniform-shoots-at-foreign-troops-causing-casualties/
ben_vulpes: much self-contradiction. it's the lot of the nearly-enlightened under the USG.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> If USG doesn't consider failure to pay federal taxes a basis to deny a security clearance, one wonders upon what basis the clearance is granted? <<< i don't think you understand how few people still pay their taxes.
decimation: If USG doesn't consider failure to pay federal taxes a basis to deny a security clearance, one wonders upon what basis the clearance is granted?
FoOdies5: what's a USG ?
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: Are you USG in Costana entrapping?
asciilifeform: (scroll down, author revealed... certified usg stooge)
chetty: haha well I kinda just assume usg and eu is doing same stuffs these days
mircea_popescu: usg is spending a lot of money time and resources trying to infiltrate it!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that would then not be a btc atm. it would be a satanic usg attack on btc.
asciilifeform: (usg trials. for some reason, just about all the tear-off tabs on the 'volunteers needed' ad - stayed attached. one can infer that most people want > 1k usd for this.)
asciilifeform: fluffypony: let's also remember that 'general dynamics' is a premier USG brand.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla because when you stop bothering you become part of the meta-usg.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform unless one is a thermodynamics gaylord, it is irrelevant what living costs. you're running a business, not a charity. except in the us, of course, where all the <del>corporations</del> usg sponsored charities foul up the market, and with it, the culture and people's heads.
decimation: I don't think the usg hides this stuff either, it just gets pushed into statistics that no one reads. The usg has a compulsion to account for itself (in its own crazy way)
chetty: usg is a whore
decimation: I'm not sure that usg is capable of keeping the deaths of its employees secret
decimation: if the power of usg wanes to that degree, I think you will see the power return to the localities/states
asciilifeform: if 'meta-nsa' exists in the flesh, it's probably an assemblage of one grey-haired officer and his two dozen or so apprentices, embedded deep within the scar tissue of usg and surviving in spite of, rather than due to, the overall management. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: kinda what makes it better than oppresive regimes a la usg in the first place.
decimation: you can own, you just have to confess to usg you have them
decimation: usg must be scared of something
mircea_popescu: this isn't nearly as cut and dried a matter as the usg likes to pretend (forced mistake, it has no alternative than to so pretend).
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: opressed populace... it'll side with the enemy << who will invade usa? martians? and should they invade, for what purpose other than rounding up inhabitants for biodiesel? one might suppose folks would support usg over biodiesel harvesters?
Luke-Jr: USG?
mircea_popescu: eh spare me the derpage. you and the rest of the usg plants are trying to push forward a certain political aggenda.
mircea_popescu: while the usg is busy drinking chateau lafitte out of the taxpayer's moneyz.
BingoBoingo: I guess that people will have to read other places that he is suspected of being the lead USG plant
dub: much like cnn or fox is usg powered
BingoBoingo: OMG USG Side channel attack on TaT via Ebay-Wife interaction
decimation: if bitcoin goes up another one or two orders of magnitude in dollar value, it will be that much worse for the usg to do anything
decimation: mircea: the usg tends to maximally claim & minimally deliver
mircea_popescu: anyway, one of the comparatively more important btc valuations is, "cost incurred by the usg litigating per btc available to defendant".
decimation: why would usg bother with the minor part of the little brother anyway
mircea_popescu: i get more for .1 a tit for crying out loud. wasn't the usg supposed to be like rich and powerful and whatnot ?
mircea_popescu: a few moar victories like this and teh usg won't need any defeats.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony wouldn';t be the first time the usg ignores the us law.
benkay: hm this nydfs paper looks like a suicide note from the usg
mircea_popescu: that's the funny thing with the usg bureaucracy, the entire "make the laws too complex and then add regulation" thing used to work in their favour cca 1980-1990. but once that starts moving it doesn't stop, and now they're left behind.
BingoBoingo: decimation: USG has been sending rednecks overseas since tripoli
decimation: usg has been sending rednecks overseas for two generations at least
asciilifeform: traditionally, usg prioritizes self-styled 'armed rebel' circles for stoolie insertion and gasenwagen quota filling.
asciilifeform: so now we see that these (likely same, but usg never commissions just one turd of a particular variety) idiots did indeed crap out something like a $1B version of 'ida hexray.'
decimation: I wonder why usg & hmg bother to pay "spies" to ... secretly watch ebay auctions
asciilifeform: 'swamp donkey' << lol! apparently a usg version of 'cryptolocker' ☟︎
decimation: ultimately the usg depends on "likes" in the polling booth, right?
asciilifeform: ^ tldr: massive catalogue of usg... spam tools.
benkay: so does the usg, for that matter.
decimation: some part of the usg has to be able to operate in secrecy effectively to perform this laudering plan right?
decimation: eh, that supposes that the usg is secretly competent, which you just implied was not the case above
decimation: what does the fact that the US auctioned off the DPR horde of btc rather than put it in the fed reveal about usg?
mircea_popescu: "being arrested and dropping ten btc to the usg"
mircea_popescu: if there were no pirate and no silkroad whatshisname, the usg wouldn't be tempted today by the very dangerous heresy that "maybe it can make it on its own"
decimation: it seems to me that if oil is so cheap, it should be burned for power, but I suspect USG has banned that too (to do it cheaply)
asciilifeform: 'what you need to know' - 'nothing.' (usg)
asciilifeform: not to usg
mircea_popescu: mexican standoff. the usg doesn't mind idiot eu bureaucrats fucking themselves over, but otherwise, it won't really shoot first.
asciilifeform: 'The chronic UR reader will be familiar with my own humble periodization of American history, arranged by constitutional singularity: USG 1, the Congressional Republic, 1774-89; USG 2, the Original Deal, 1789-1861; USG 3, the Old Deal, 1861-1933; USG 4, the New Deal, 1933-present.'
gribble: USG: more Russian than the Tsar, more Muslim than Osama: <http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2011/05/usg-more-russian-than-tsar-more-muslim.html>; Unqualified Reservations: September 2010: <http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2010_09_01_archive.html>; AIACC – Call For Papers | Handle's Haus: <http://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/aiacc-call-for- (1 more message)
decimation: but it does reveal many truths about the way USG actually works, rather than the way everyone pretend it works
asciilifeform: if usg employs thinking people, they did not write this.
mircea_popescu: actually, i don't know a single feminist, actual, honest fmeinist in a place of power within the usg. not one.
asciilifeform: what, specifically, can "feminism" do << s/feminism/usg
mircea_popescu: but the actual places where usg enters the system.
mircea_popescu: where did all the guys that used to argue with me about the fakeness of usg published figures go!
decimation: ascii, this is proof of the point you made the other day. If USG finds a website for 'hos intolerable, how much more intolerable would a "private army" be?
bitcoinpete: if usg is refunding deposit by july 7...
ThickAsThieves: it seems the USG should make it all public
xmj: cgcardona: the problem with the US government setting the gold price that at first, having gold priced way over market rates, that created a huge inflow as everyone scrambled to sell gold to the USG at inflated prices
ThickAsThieves: not the USG
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (usg) nsa needs to hire a new script writer << outsourced.
asciilifeform: (usg) nsa needs to hire a new script writer
benkay: only foreign banks, and only maybe, and only if the USG catches you and your dodging of thtupid embargoes is woefully poorly managed
mircea_popescu: o dude look how that usg auction destroyued the price o noes.
benkay: another factor in breaking the USG's power monopoly will be the cheaply made en-masse autonomous thingers capable of bringing down any bird or boat they field
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: USMS should liveblog the auction << sadly, the website to do that wouldcost the usg more than the auction's worth
asciilifeform: (usg likes to lay unmarked fiber for seekrit skvirrel use. what happens? it gets cut. as the recent case of a new branch of wash. dc metro)