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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20375 @ 0.00079458 = 16.1896 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12075 @ 0.00079417 = 9.5896 BTC [-]
HeySteve: ;;tell thick_as_thieves ThickAsThieves: something like turn namecoin in a wot <- was working on exactly this
BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1
BingoBoingo: !up fordlincoln
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6869 @ 0.000789 = 5.4196 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: lulzy butthurt http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/idiocracy-is-a-cruel-movie-and-you-should-be-ashamed-fo-1553344189
assbot: Idiocracy Is a Cruel Movie And You Should Be Ashamed For Liking It
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 5000 @ 0.00072021 = 3.6011 BTC [-] {7}
DreadKnight: erm Idiocracy is one of my fav movies
DreadKnight: !up TheRelic
DreadKnight: the current ghetto I'm living in is real proof of that movie, making it funny because it's real
DreadKnight: families of 5 living in a single small room and having huge debts
BingoBoingo: Yeah, Idiocracy being cruel doens't necessarily mean it is untrue
mthreat: %tslb
atcbot: 11 minutes and 42 seconds
DreadKnight: thanks for article share, will read it soon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32225 @ 0.00078805 = 25.3949 BTC [-] {2}
thick_as_thieves: <+HeySteve> ;;tell thick_as_thieves ThickAsThieves: something like turn namecoin in a wot <- was working on exactly this /// how's it going?
thick_as_thieves: mike_c i love the analysis
thick_as_thieves: I hadnt seen enky's latest post yet, but i too am having some concerns about current demand
thick_as_thieves: however, the USMS should have news about the SR auction in a week or two, which could spark something
mircea_popescu: ;;tell genericpersona that's not your call to make. now stop dicking around while you still have a dick to dick around with.
thick_as_thieves: who is genericpersona?
thick_as_thieves: someon ei hav eignored?
thick_as_thieves: must be vancleef or sumth
mircea_popescu: some -otc derp i imagine.
thick_as_thieves: o
mircea_popescu: people from tennessee imagining beijing is a suburb of chattanooga.
HeySteve: thick_as_thieves, we got pretty far. forked NMC and had a blockchain running you could use to add and retrieve public keys and other details like name, email, business, etc.
HeySteve: my dev in thailand has dropped off the radar lately tho
HeySteve: I had the idea but know next to nothing about code so he was doing the heavy lifting there
mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall the discussion from back thewn
thick_as_thieves: programmers, can't work with em, can't work without em
HeySteve: (perhaps it's more accurate to say I re-had the idea, seeing as nanotube was looking at decentralising the WoT ages ago)
DreadKnight: thick_as_thieves, you said it :\
DreadKnight: most coders have a god complex
mircea_popescu: most coders are god, stop hating :D
BingoBoingo: Huh, I can't seem to see a genericpersona derping in the lawgs
HeySteve: yep. I'll send him another message, ask him to come here and talk about it
thick_as_thieves: or dog complex
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the kitchen, http://38.media.tumblr.com/065d75d3ad7f8fe2bcbddad3084cd7d7/tumblr_mjlzqbsNO01rt1p0go1_500.jpg
BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=716569.msg7950314;boardseen#new
assbot: Justice for Paige Striker - raped at 14!
dub: tribal neck tattoos, edgy
mircea_popescu: dub they don't really pay for extras in these shoots.
mircea_popescu: basically just pick up w/e the cats are dragging in the street.
mircea_popescu: Long story short - I hired Shawn and Pixeldust Marketing late in 2013 to redesign our web site https://www.pinnaclecredit.com/ (note: his design was junk and we did not use it) Shawn started a relationship with our 14 year old daughter Paige behind our back. We found out Jan 2014 she had gotten pregnant by Shawn and had an abortion! Shawn is in his 30s!
mircea_popescu: ok that's just good dirt.
mircea_popescu: who is this dood.
BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=112569
assbot: Login
mircea_popescu: "We charged him with sexual assault but our daughter would not cooperate and he was not convicted." << this doth not sound much like rape.
BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112569
assbot: View the profile of evershawn
asciilifeform: pixeldust << synthetic dope that drives user mad while giving him extraordinary strength? (or was that another 'dust' ?)
BingoBoingo: Pixie dust, PCP
asciilifeform: ahaha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28250 @ 0.00078568 = 22.1955 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: pcp is more of a cop/courthouse legend from the 80s
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=710658.msg8079399#msg8079399
assbot: Scammer - Martin Lawrence - St. Albert - Alberta, Canada
mircea_popescu: not a hippy or someone that backs down. well...
asciilifeform: legend, afaik, is based on the 'feature' of it being anaesthetic without any soporific effect - so user could indeed use 'great strength' at the cost of tearing muscles.
asciilifeform hasn't tried, can't confirm
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spoondoolies-tech-updates-power-drawhash-rate/
BingoBoingo: PCP is a dissociative anesthetic similar to ketamine, but with less effect on the ability to move skeletal muscles
asciilifeform was once offered ~1k usd by employer to take ketamine, somehow never got around to it ☟︎
asciilifeform: (usg trials. for some reason, just about all the tear-off tabs on the 'volunteers needed' ad - stayed attached. one can infer that most people want > 1k usd for this.)
asciilifeform: recently saw the very same ad on uni. campus. apparently they're still testing.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> PCP is a dissociative anesthetic similar to ketamine, but with less effect on the ability to move skeletal muscles << exactly so.
mircea_popescu: you don't hear reports about keto hipsters throwing fire trucks at airplanes.
mircea_popescu: or w/e bs.
BingoBoingo: Because deep in the k-hole you can't fire signals to move around. That deep in PCP that body runs blind
asciilifeform: in the actual police documents, the plausible data - suspect requiring a few more doughnut eaters than usual to subdue
BingoBoingo: Basically in the PCP hole, body can't report pain/sensory data to the brain and brain can't impose coherent order upon the body.
HeySteve: just downloaded DAZ studio and experimenting
HeySteve: couldn't get the pose as extreme as in the "kitchen" pic but it's fairly close: http://i.imgur.com/cn01ZnT.jpg
HeySteve: fun program!
BingoBoingo: mike_c: How is forum lyfe?
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> gentlemen, wtf with the underscores ? // my handle's been outdated by reality for a long time now.
mike_c: quiet. i wasn't sure what to expect, but so far it has been indifference. i didn't post at a great time, late at night. thinking about getting some people to bump it. not sure what to do yet.
asciilifeform assumed ben_vulpes is actually named 'ben fox' when first saw
mircea_popescu: mike_c's fate, to linger between indifference and insanity.
mike_c: i looked at the price for advertising and was shocked. 1 slot (which is 1/8 of impressions) for 1 week is going for ~3 btc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a point of great wonder, the man not only had the means to find a girl actually named fox after her father, but sense enough to switch names.
penguirker: New blog post: http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/07/29/how-and-why-to-build-an-unbanked-bitcoin-atm/
mircea_popescu: mike_c yes, for as long as it lasts milking the scampit is lucrative.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: lit. "son of the fox" - albeit pidgin hebrew
ben_vulpes: (/aramaic)
mike_c: big buyer was cex.io
mike_c: which needs constant chump fuel
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 274 @ 0.0035819 = 0.9814 BTC [-] {12}
ben_vulpes: <mike_c> i looked at the price for advertising and was shocked. 1 slot (which is 1/8 of impressions) for 1 week is going for ~3 btc << >?!
mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/2b8e16a7eb6146a88171856b7b971dbd/tumblr_mniti61WFw1qlne6uo1_500.jpg << 70s fashions.
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.5, Best ask: 583.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.49000, Last trade: 583.5, 24 hour volume: 3794.65763213, 24 hour low: 578.0, 24 hour high: 591.95, 24 hour vwap: 582.780620021
ben_vulpes: ah that's not so bad
mike_c: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700152.msg8078134#msg8078134
assbot: Advertise on this forum - Round 127
mircea_popescu: mike_c yeah, cex.io is spending a lot on advertising. google too.
mike_c: bitmain bought half the slots this week
ben_vulpes: how many impressions?
ben_vulpes: "impressions"
ben_vulpes vomits
mircea_popescu: tbh i'd rather advertise on 4chan.
mike_c: 377877 per slot
mircea_popescu: mike_c per week ?!
ben_vulpes: i suppose people don't care if things are quantifiable, only if they put their stuff in front of the right audience
mike_c: ;;calc [ticker --last] * 3 / 378
gribble: 4.61785714286
mike_c: 4.60 cpm. high, but not outrageous i guess
mike_c: https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats
mircea_popescu: you have got to be kidding me, 400k impressions a day is ludicrous. trilema does more than the tardstalk ?!
mike_c: that is 1 slot (1/8 of total)
asciilifeform: 'impression' ~= page load ?
mircea_popescu: but for the whole week ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty much.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> you have got to be kidding me, 400k impressions a day is ludicrous. trilema does more than the tardstalk ?! << tardstalk has prolly already bored all the spooks
mike_c: oh, sry. that was only for logged-in users
mike_c: 1,526,113 per day for the whole site if my fogged-brain is doing this right
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ;;tell genericpersona that's not your call to make. now stop dicking around while you still have a dick to dick around with. // a dick with which to around?
mircea_popescu: that's saner.
asciilifeform: ~4/min. is approx. what i see on my site. which is quite obscure.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes a dick with which to dick.
mike_c: ;;calc [ticker --last] * 3 / 1526
gribble: 1.14802096986
mike_c: that is a more reasonable cpm
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your site's not that obscure, for one. 4k is not much on the other.
asciilifeform: it was ~1/min before it started to live in the #b-a log.
mircea_popescu: mike_c about a degree of magnitude too much, but hey.
asciilifeform: (i also see quite a few 'trilema' headers)
mike_c: well, you figure 0.1% ctr? so you pay $1 per click
mike_c: probably worth it for bitmain
mircea_popescu: mike_c like for neobee.
mike_c: bitmain isn't scammer afaik. that's antminer, right? they deliver.
mircea_popescu: it's not worth it for any of them, just, they don';t have the option not to do it. if they don't do it they don;t exist. so gotta do it.
BingoBoingo: Well isn't bitmain the people actually delivering asics now?
mircea_popescu: mike_c well one doesn't have to be a scammer for the roi to not be there.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: i believe that is the point for buyers like 'indacoin', whatever the hell that is
mike_c: idk.. you also get the eyeballs. the 'see-throughs'.
mircea_popescu: http://theumlaut.com/2014/07/29/a-gentle-introduction-to-neoreaction-for-libertarians/ << so check it out, teh princess manges to go through an entire mile long post about right wing anarchy throwing out ~1k links, never mentions trilema.
assbot: A Gentle Introduction to Neoreaction (for Libertarians) | The mlaut
mircea_popescu: fuck me, i thought myself the alpha and omega of right wing anarchy. i guess i don't get out enough.
mike_c: thick_as_thieves:mike_c i love the analysis << thx :) it was fun.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually 99%+ of the material, afaik, these folks would find agreeable, is... in russian. (they're, unsurprisingly, quite unaware.)
mircea_popescu: (quite unsurprisingly. it is the curse of the us-ian, this particular stupidity, to have to reinvent everything, make it shoddier and flimsier and strut proudly. but hey, at least some stones in a hat taught him ancient aramaic)
asciilifeform: people who can't read - will reinvent. no surprised here.
mircea_popescu: "in the end, success is 1% reading and 99% getting your name out there!"
mike_c: wait, what percentage is work?
mircea_popescu: what is work ?
asciilifeform: success... name out there << is this quote from 'spam like a pro in 21 days' ?
mike_c: holy link-fest. let me add that along with excessive footnotes to my list of ways to make your post unreadable.
mircea_popescu: quite is from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSjLiQxEZlM if it wasn't obvious.
assbot: You can do Anything! - YouTube
asciilifeform is seeing this marvel for the first time
mircea_popescu: you also should get out more ?
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: mike_c i dun think it was intended to be read, i think it was intended to get me to read all this crud.
mircea_popescu: i fucking can't to, it feels like all the idiot kids that i flunked in philosophy class ran off and made blogs.
DreadKnight: asciilifeform, welcome around
DreadKnight: oh sorry, scratch that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37700 @ 0.00078568 = 29.6201 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: unwelcome around!
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform saw title 'you can do anything', expected a film where idiots try to fly jets, dive submarines, like in a certain ancient story by sheckley
mircea_popescu: welcome asquare!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, see, historically idiocy was falsifiable, but since it met this retarded civilisation of safety...
mircea_popescu: it just can't find its onw level anymore.
mike_c: i haven't seen much snl. that video is great
asciilifeform: http://www.baenebooks.com/chapters/9781625791412/9781625791412___2.htm
assbot: - <b>THE PRIZE OF PERIL</b>
mircea_popescu: mike_c the rest of snl is not there yet. sort-of how the aliens with a telephone are half sesame street.
asciilifeform: oops wrong link
asciilifeform: actually nope. right one.
BingoBoingo: !up the20year
mircea_popescu: jurov: there may be one global, but there will always be plenty of local ones, often with contradicting information << now this i see.
BingoBoingo: !up the20year1
the20year1: There?
the20year1: Alright, i can't ever remember which one i'm logged into, i've got like 4 IRC nicks now
the20year1: sweeet
the20year1: Seeems that hookers n blow comment has finally come up on the forums, i feel like such a celeb
mircea_popescu: jurov: good. would be 0.5BTC okay for both? i'll then add "sponsored by CoinBr" stuff << cool beanz
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: parallel construction; snore. << indeed. that idiot had no business no way and no means doing so many columbia flights.
mircea_popescu: he's someone's something, which also neatly explains why they put one of the few dea agents with a functioning brain on the case, and spent so much time and effort on it.
mircea_popescu: now whose what... meh, i dun gas.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier my idea at least is that an atm is the most fucktarded idea one could come up with.
mircea_popescu: specifically : an atm requires a fortress. we have not yet built the fortress. when we do, you will know we have, because i will kidnap a number of "world leaders" wives and daughters to be publicly raped there as to make the fucking point that in fact it IS a fortress. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, an atm is addressed to and aims to serve the public. bitcoin does not.
mircea_popescu: so for these considerations, it makes about as much sense to talk of bitcoin atms as it makes sense to talk of using wet matches to shoot down Mars.
the20year1: bitcoin doesn't serve the public?
mircea_popescu: the20year1 only incidentally. but principally , bitcoin serves the elite.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00078547 = 23.0143 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: (no, not THAT one, this one, but what the hell's the difference)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Yeah, Idiocracy being cruel doens't necessarily mean it is untrue <<< kinda meh slapsticky nonsense imo, but hey.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well more nonsense when you aren't in the thick of ground zero
mircea_popescu: granted, i know not of what i speak.
the20year1: if bitcoin only serves the elite, then why pass out flyers?
justusranvier: The Bitcoin ATMs I describe serve the Bitcoin traders. Frees them up from having to meet at the same time to perform their trades.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.27 = 2.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00078948 = 12.2369 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/494327061163438080
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/29/actual-internet-etiquette-trackbacks-and-spam/
BingoBoingo: A lesson in Internet Etiquette #blogging http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/29/actual-internet-etiquette-trackbacks-and-spam/ … cc: @HashReport
assbot: Actual Internet Etiquette: Trackbacks and Spam | Bingo Blog
BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/07/why-one-new-jersey-school-district-killed-its-student-laptop-program/
assbot: Why one New Jersey school district killed its student laptop program | Ars Technica
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2959999 = 0.888 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up TheNewDeal
TheNewDeal: why thank you sir
BingoBoingo: You are welcome
TheNewDeal: hows your evening treating you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2959999 = 0.592 BTC [+]
TheNewDeal: or if it's that time
BingoBoingo: Not too bad.
TheNewDeal: any decent limericks surfaced lately ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12196 @ 0.00078477 = 9.5711 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: an atm requires a fortress... << to house the mechanism itself? or, its owner?
TheNewDeal: to not be robbed
asciilifeform: is the presumption that the 'saecular authorities' will not prosecute the theft of a btc atm ?
asciilifeform: or, that they will perpetrate said theft ?
asciilifeform: (in which case, what kind of fortress could possibly suffice)
BingoBoingo: Mega lolz: "Adwords Robot USA/UK favorited your Tweet"
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Should have at least named the blog MooseCocks Re: http://contravex.com/2014/07/29/the-transition/
assbot: The Transition. | Contravex: A blog by Peter Dushenski
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 283 @ 0.00267057 = 0.7558 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9617 @ 0.00078428 = 7.5424 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: !up TheNewDeal
TheNewDeal: gracias
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/29/the-problem-with-breaking-news/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00078312 = 2.8975 BTC [-]
TheNewDeal: a blog post on blag posts
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I know. Not Revolutionary though, because MP already does it.
BingoBoingo: Actually that's two blog posts about blog posts tonight.
TheNewDeal: niiice
BingoBoingo: http://crazyrxman.blogspot.com/2014/07/unfortunate-pet-name.html
assbot: Crazy RxMan: Unfortunate Pet Name
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 232 @ 0.00262143 = 0.6082 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 127 @ 0.00419994 = 0.5334 BTC [+] {3}
[]bot: Bet created: "Honkie peg to be broken" http://bitbet.us/bet/1009/
dub: wat
BingoBoingo: "
BingoBoingo: The Hong Kong dollar was pegged at 7.80 HKD per USD in 1983. Recently it has been trading at 7.75 HKD per USD, the strongest the HKMA permits it to float in the band around the peg.
BingoBoingo: This bet resolves as Yes if the HKD trades at 7.65 HKD per USD or stronger at any time before February 2015.
BingoBoingo: "
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00078312 = 4.1897 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00078312 = 16.9937 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 203 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 78k High: 211 Low: 203 VWAP: 207
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 90 @ 0.29961654 = 26.9655 BTC [+] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.31317137 = 13.4664 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.3313133 = 9.9394 BTC [+] {9}
BingoBoingo: !up KRS-One
KRS-One: whats up dude
KRS-One: ;;seen vexual
gribble: vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 14 hours, 52 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <Vexual> ;;lasers
BingoBoingo: Not too much
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29453 @ 0.00078258 = 23.0493 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 307 @ 0.00289276 = 0.8881 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 38 @ 0.3 = 11.4 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00078461 = 18.4383 BTC [+] {2}
KRS-One: Where are u from
BingoBoingo: !up KRS-One
KRS-One: sup man where u from
BingoBoingo: Oh, no where in particular
KRS-One: ya same here..
KRS-One: just thought it was funny how bitcoin is worldwide yet the btc channels go dead when the US sleeps.
KRS-One: Are there any other btc IRC networks that you know of
BingoBoingo: That's a very good question
kakobrekla: europeans read, americans write.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7909 @ 0.00078208 = 6.1855 BTC [-]
KRS-One: They must have a lot to learn.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier the problem is what do you do to preven tit from being attacked ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: an atm requires a fortress... << to house the mechanism itself? or, its owner? << yes.
mircea_popescu: in any event it's a fortressy thing to do. "here is money for the taking. take it only like so, or else you die" ☟︎
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/22179HD.txt )
BingoBoingo: !b 2 ✂︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34968 @ 0.00078422 = 27.4226 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (in which case, what kind of fortress could possibly suffice) << hence the rape comment.
mircea_popescu: the only way to do this is long after we've defeated everyone.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31 = 0.62 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 599 @ 0.00262561 = 1.5727 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 321 @ 0.00419999 = 1.3482 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/2101614620ddddd2978e7e6ce64dc1d4/tumblr_mmuc4eEsgJ1qlne6uo1_500.jpg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00078581 = 8.7225 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up GodHatesFigs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.300075 = 1.2003 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31499889 = 0.63 BTC [+]
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, nice :D
mircea_popescu: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8072545
assbot: Ethereum is truly innovative; the first genuine stab at a post-Bitcoin blockchai... | Hacker News
mircea_popescu: check out vessenes being a complete and utter fucktard
mircea_popescu: YET AGAIN
mircea_popescu: http://contravex.com/2014/07/27/inheritance-and-individuation/ i like jay. who's jay ?
assbot: Inheritance and Individuation | Contravex: A blog by Peter Dushenski
DreadKnight: well, don't know about etherum, but I wish bitcoin was non-ASIC-able
DreadKnight: though that means mining of new coins would had stagnated at some point hmm
mircea_popescu: why ?
DreadKnight: so probably super bad idea
punkman: no ASICS = easier to attack
mircea_popescu: that's silly. asics are a major building block in our power. the only reason we're still fighting today is that we had asics in time.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 669 @ 0.0026351 = 1.7629 BTC [+]
DreadKnight: thought some people got into btc early and mined with cpu and gpu, now that's not useful; some of those people got rich and can easily afford lots of asics now to continue mining and make some more money, but they invested in some hardware which was not very usable for anything else and quite a risk, so it kinda forced bitcoin to be a non burstable bubble because of the hardware
DreadKnight: s/thought/though
DreadKnight: so ASIC not really bad if you think about it
DreadKnight: btc had plenty of time to be spread around nicely with already existing hardware
DreadKnight: I was considering ASICs as a "the rich get richer" sort of thing, but considering their utility/cost/risks, it's all good
mircea_popescu: you're focusing on the wrong things.
DreadKnight: yeah
mircea_popescu: the point is not for some random fuckwits to "have a chance".
mircea_popescu: the point is for bitcoin to be as powerful as possible.
mircea_popescu: because, again, bitcoin is not here for the people, bitcoin is here for the elite.
DreadKnight: I understood from your previous argument
mircea_popescu: k
mircea_popescu: !up guest8645
DreadKnight: average joe won't know about bitcoin unless the elite implements it in businesses and requires it
mircea_popescu: pretty much.
DreadKnight: not know, better say "use"
DreadKnight: because bitcoin was on the tv news quite a few times around here at least
DreadKnight: "don't invest in btc, it's a bubble!" and after a while it showed a lot of stupid monkeys all like "I don't know how it works, but I sold x and y and invested it all into bitcoins" lol
mircea_popescu: !s from:naphex tv
assbot: 6 results for 'from:naphex tv' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Anaphex+tv
cazalla: it's for the "other 6 billion" you greedy fucks!
DreadKnight: :D
DreadKnight: it will get there thanks to the elite
mircea_popescu: maybe the point was to make bitcoin so that every person has one.
mircea_popescu: putting the excess population by satoshi prophecy at about 6bn
DreadKnight: yes, but screw that, people can trade bucks rather
DreadKnight: it's not like I actually mined dollars in the first place to begin with xD
cazalla: DreadKnight, from what i've read, most that cpu -> gpu -> bfl mined ended up with nothing
DreadKnight: as expected, mtgox ftw xD
cazalla: well, that too but they were warned
cazalla: fortunately the right people have a good amount of coins, can you imagine the likes of andreas with thousands
DreadKnight: it's never ever wise to keep all money in the same spot ffs
mircea_popescu: a warning's as good as a wink to a blind bat ☟︎
DreadKnight: wise words
mircea_popescu: especially should the bat belabour under the delusion it;'s batman.
DreadKnight: :D
mircea_popescu: but anyway, night comes to ass ull. later.
DreadKnight: rest well
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33080 @ 0.00078656 = 26.0194 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8620 @ 0.00078656 = 6.7801 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/29/a-third-of-consumers-had-debts-in-collections-last-year/
assbot: A third of consumers with credit files had debts in collections last year - The Washington Post
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00078551 = 5.4593 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00078551 = 1.6888 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up pleego
BingoBoingo: !up pogakuofie
BingoBoingo: !up manamex
BingoBoingo: !up Ginux
pogakuofie: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 578.69, Best ask: 580.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.74000, Last trade: 578.65, 24 hour volume: 3899.39029056, 24 hour low: 578.0, 24 hour high: 587.78, 24 hour vwap: 581.991343838
BingoBoingo: %t
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00078275 = 15.9681 BTC [-]
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 66k High: 210 Low: 203 VWAP: 206
pogakuofie: what is that : bingobingo
pogakuofie: ?
BingoBoingo: What? What am I?
BingoBoingo: OR the thing I summoned which is a ticker for Altcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00078275 = 1.2133 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00078619 = 24.2933 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 313148 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1347 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 13 hours, 54 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19398377285.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.53288
moiety: hey bingobingo :P
BingoBoingo: Hey moiety
BingoBoingo: I see you got caught in the netsplit
moiety: yep D; i usually manage to escape it too
moiety: OH i have my pi back up! i'll look at the thing kako gave me to set up a bouncer
BingoBoingo: Ah, It's been a while since one's caught me.
BingoBoingo: Cool!
moiety: whats been happening with you?
moiety: see the derp-api died fully finally
BingoBoingo: Well, I'm watching atc still, stament comes in a few days.
BingoBoingo: I'd like to get this one out on the first.
BingoBoingo: Ah Doge api?
BingoBoingo: Were you using that moiety?
moiety: nope
moiety: our own dogecoind
moiety: but lots of folk have lost in transactions
moiety: in other places
BingoBoingo: Ah
moiety: am i wrong in thinnking this is another nail in the coffin though?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 852 @ 0.0012223 = 1.0414 BTC [-] {9}
BingoBoingo: It prolly is. Dogers like outsourcing work and everything node.js
moiety: they still seem blissfully unaware. still on their way to the moon they think
BingoBoingo: Prolly What's doge price lately?
moiety: lol its bad i had to look that up XD $0.2048/1k
BingoBoingo: How much is that in real things?
moiety: negative lol
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell ThickasTheives http://therealaltcoin.org/ seems down
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Ah
moiety: 0.0003500 btc/ 1k doge
moiety: i feel bad that when people join and ask me about doge i have to tell them i dont use it >.>
BingoBoingo: Wow, at least Honesty?
moiety: well yeah im not gonna lie about it
moiety: cus it just leads tomore questions i cant answer
BingoBoingo: Sure. And I mean it enforces the thing where everything on that service really is worthless game tokens.
moiety: they arent worthless if the users use them
moiety: i do miss how it was though
BingoBoingo: Ah In the old days
moiety: yep, but you know me.. resourceful. we'll just see what happens
BingoBoingo: ;;later mike_c I'm keeping at least a pretense of life in your thread
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "mike_c" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
BingoBoingo: ;;later laser mike_c I'm keeping at least a pretense of life in your thread
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "laser" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mike_c I'm keeping at least a pretense of life in your thread
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00078619 = 8.1371 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: moiety: I mean you did save the sex weeks flat
moiety: wasn't sure i was going to either. it really shouldnt be so hard to keep a roof over one's head
moiety: ah summer showers - was outside for literally 60 seconds and im soaked
BingoBoingo: Well, consider how many places it takes 15+ people to afford a roof.
moiety: someone suggested a lodger to me but i'm really not keen. i keep too weird hours
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14456 @ 0.00077885 = 11.2591 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Yeah
cazalla: it's not the hours but the space that becomes a problem with sharing
BingoBoingo: cazalla: This is -assets, the hours become a problem too
BingoBoingo: http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-bitcoin-defrauding-20140729-story.html
assbot: Bitcoin trading website accused of defrauding thousands of customers - LA Times
BingoBoingo: ^ coinabul
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17445 @ 0.00077885 = 13.587 BTC [-]
dub: you would think that the media would know to just omit the 'based in wyoming' thing
BingoBoingo: Yeah, I mean that address has how many stories about being a place to rent a mailslot to incorporate from?
moiety: cazalla: thats another thing, this flat is huge but the spare room is actually really quite small. its the only small room. i couldn't cram someone in there and charge them for it. also i have cats that would piss someone off i thnk. they like laying on clean clothes
moiety likes to wander freely - not a good thing to do with starngers inthe house
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1985 @ 0.00260753 = 5.1759 BTC [-] {9}
BingoBoingo: Eh, maybe you could rent a box or something, The tenent tell you when they need out and until them you just lock them in?
cazalla: moiety, i lived with 2 other guys in a 2 bedroom unit when i was much younger, we turned the loungeroom into another bedroom as it had a door, was worth it at the time to save on rent but the cooking, cleaning is a pita when others don't rate it as highly as i do on list of things to do
dub: solution: live with other ocd folk
cazalla: beggars can't be choosers
moiety: lmao BingoBoingo
moiety: i know cazalla, but i'll try everything else i can first
BingoBoingo: Seriously the tenant present a schedule of when they need out well in advance, and otherwise they go in the box.
BingoBoingo: Some aspies would probably got for that
moiety: aspies?
cazalla: there's been a few shipping container ghettos here in australia
moiety: omg i saw the most amazing shipping container house
cazalla: it's usually full of international students and illegals though
BingoBoingo: moiety: You know the shut ins
moiety: o ofc lol
moiety: i got told damp would be an issue cazalla
moiety: just look at these! o.O http://network.details.com/post/shipping-container-homes-simple-is-the-new-awesome they don't look so cheap
assbot: You'll Never Guess What These Amazing Homes Are Made Out Of by Urbasm | Details Network
cazalla: fire too, a lot went up in flames here a few months ago
moiety: :o
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Those things look like Tornado food
moiety: jesus christ doge people are over sensitive drama queens
BingoBoingo: OMG What happened now?
BingoBoingo: I'll never believe it!
cazalla: BingoBoingo, the one thing Australia lacks!
moiety: topic : domestic abusers being tagged response: ermagherd ive been abused i cant possibly read this!
moiety: well fuck off then no need to tell everyone
moiety: ive given them the shipping containers to calm them down
BingoBoingo: lol
moiety: wait... is australia not very windy cazalla?
cazalla: moiety, we have cyclones
moiety: oh fuck that, my search for the least windy place to live continues
cazalla: it's really only the top end that gets hit by them
BingoBoingo: moiety: Have they exhausted your manul supply already?
moiety: they arent worthy of the manuls
moiety: very few appreciate them
cazalla: moiety, although i've been around tasman island and the wind was that bad, figured the boat would overturn for sure
moiety: fuck that must have been petrifying cazalla
cazalla: missus started crying, it was her idea too as she wanted to see the seals etc
cazalla: i had to keep it together for her sake but i was terrified, tour operator ended up turning back as he was concerned as well
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.29420001 = 2.942 BTC [-] {4}
moiety: now thats when you really panic... when a boatman or pilot starts to worry
cazalla: we were meant to go the day prior but it was cancelled due to bad weather, should've been a headsup for what was to come heh
cazalla: beautiful area though, can't wait to move to tassie
moiety: when do you move?
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5bUmx-hk-c
assbot: The Lovin' Spoonful - Summer In The City (1966) - YouTube
punkman: 32 C again, this is not conducive to work
moiety: BingoBoingo: I have new one! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIXw-3H48yU#t=24
assbot: Pallas cat - Otocolobus manul - YouTube
cazalla: moiety, no set date but i want to within 18-24 months, we have a short list of places but i'll need to sell my unit, bubs is teething atm so makes it difficult for me to leave missus here on her own and find a place
moiety: punkman, it was 25C in my room at midnight last night, i'm dying without a/c
moiety: cazalla: understandable. at least you have time to search too and no deadline though
BingoBoingo: moiety: They are so much better moving!!!
moiety: ik! the WTF face is even better in a video too
moiety: so fluffy
punkman: I'd go to manul beach
moiety: don't give me ideas punkman!
BingoBoingo: moiety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44n0v6JSeQY
assbot: The Unfluffly Truth about Pallas' Cats at Prospect Park Zoo - YouTube
BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soBYeKyUIPU
assbot: Pallas Cat Kittens - 12 weeks old pt1 - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00078299 = 28.1876 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21577 @ 0.00078653 = 16.971 BTC [+] {2}
moiety: that woman has THE best job ever
BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvEu0wlbwFc
assbot: WHF Pallas Cats - Wei Shand & Tula - YouTube
moiety: thi kittens! :'D
moiety: the*
BingoBoingo: So much fur
moiety: i believe losing an arm in order to touch one would be a fair swap
BingoBoingo: Prolly true
moiety: the way they move around is hilarious
BingoBoingo: Alternately dangerous.
moiety: if i were to write to a zoo do you think they would let me stuff one that died naturally?
BingoBoingo: And frustrating when their face is partially obscured because you know they are making great faces
moiety: ^^
BingoBoingo: moiety: That is an interesting question? How would your other cats handle their favorite being immobile?
moiety: i could see them sitting on it actually
moiety: mine are ridiculously stupid
BingoBoingo: I dunno, maybe they would smell that doing so would be unwise...
moiety: "o a nice raised up rug/bed, thanks!" i reckon would be the response or "this one wont talk to me!"
fluffypony: http://geekologie.com/2014/07/thats-too-long-woman-has-sex-toy-removed.php
assbot: That's Too Long: Woman Has Sex Toy Removed From Vagina After Ten Years | Geekologie
fluffypony: moiety: do you know her?
moiety: WTF
fluffypony: :-P
moiety: LOL fluffypony!!!! I do not XD
moiety: god i wish i worked at ARI at this time
moiety: how could she not know?!
moiety: must be like a bucket
punkman: this little guy showed up yesterday: http://i.imgur.com/C9HUjtl.jpg
BingoBoingo: punkman: I think asciilifeform set a standard that cats in this channel need either serious fluff or confirmed kills...
punkman: he killed a cockroach, does that count?
BingoBoingo: Eh, prolly
punkman: also made the older kitty jealous and she left
moiety: aww he's so cute... did your other one come back yet?
moiety: elvis ate a butterfly yesterday
punkman: cute :P
punkman: this one has stuck around for a couple weeks: http://i.imgur.com/R3JQWvt.jpg
thick_as_thieves: <+BingoBoingo> ;;later tell ThickasTheives http://therealaltcoin.org/ seems down /// up for me, but that's one more sign namecheap hosting sux
assbot: The Real Altcoin (ATC) – Never Mine Another Altcoin Again
punkman: I guess word is out that I got free food
moiety: omg he is adorable, i just imploded
moiety: i need to figure out how to combine cats and btc, life would be complete
punkman: 1. shave qr code on kitty 2. ??? 3. Profit!!?
BingoBoingo: http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/0/1/2/299012_v1.jpg
BingoBoingo: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 527816.92 in 638 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -23.19
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 313158 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1337 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 17 hours, 43 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19294145477.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.97657
cazalla: i'll never understand how someone can pick a cat over a dog
punkman: I'd rather have a goat
punkman: cazalla: how many rabbits do you have now?
cazalla: punkman, 8 kittens ready to eat in about 2 weeks besides the 2 does 1 buck for breeding
cazalla: could produce more but i like to give the does a month break once she weans them, the commercial ones are typically rebreed same day as they give birth
punkman: I always do rabbit in stew/sauce, wanna try chicken-fried next time
cazalla: i crumb and then panfry the hind/fore legs, toss the rest in a slow cooker, started using the kidneys + liver for pate recently
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18023 @ 0.00078662 = 14.1773 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: http://www.epmonthly.com/departments/columns/in-my-opinion/the-life-cycle-of-a-parasitic-specialist/#comment-2805
assbot: The Life Cycle of a Parasitic Specialist
thick_as_thieves: moiety: this is lil rosie when she was littler. she's full grown at about 6lbs now. http://i.imgur.com/asL9ccZ.jpg
thick_as_thieves: the sock suit was to stop her from picking at her bellybutton
moiety: aww she's so cute thick_as_thieves! beautiful colouring
moiety: bellybutton? did she have surgery?
thick_as_thieves: she was born
thick_as_thieves: :)
moiety: ive had them at 5 weeks and bellies were fine
moiety: how old is she there
thick_as_thieves: we foster them young
moiety: thats brilliant!
thick_as_thieves: probly less than 2 weeks
thick_as_thieves: when you get em that young, they turn out awesome
moiety: i got elvis because he was offered home four times and let down
thick_as_thieves: we have a cat we've offered away four times with no success
moiety: if i was closer i would have it!
moiety: elvis >> http://i.imgur.com/wFhBV4R.png
thick_as_thieves: he thinks rosie is a critter or too weak or something so he attacks her and carries her around
thick_as_thieves: he's sweet otherwis
thick_as_thieves: e
BingoBoingo: !up the20year1
BingoBoingo: https://imgur.com/gallery/GBzx8IO
assbot: Hello there! Welcome to the world of Pokmon! My name is Oak! - Imgur
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 695 @ 0.00256826 = 1.7849 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 857 @ 0.00252833 = 2.1668 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.3177777 = 2.86 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.324 = 0.972 BTC [+]
jurov: BingoBoingo what am i reading???
BingoBoingo: jurov: Which thing I linked?
jurov: pokemon
BingoBoingo: It was on the side bar next to one of the cat pictures
BigBitz: Pokémon ftw.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6632 @ 0.00078662 = 5.2169 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00248713 = 2.4871 BTC [-] {21}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 567 @ 0.00245 = 1.3892 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.324 = 2.592 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: %ob
atcbot: 8k@260 17k@250 27k@248 | 68k@205 23k@203 100k@202
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 600 @ 0.00235056 = 1.4103 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: https://o.info/index.php/How_to_issue_a_cryptosecurity
assbot: How to issue a cryptosecurity - O.info
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8487 @ 0.0007826 = 6.6419 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00078006 = 28.3942 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 66k High: 210 Low: 203 VWAP: 206
mod6: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 526412.98 in 632 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -23.40
ThickAsThieves: http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20140730-705181.html?#
assbot: Tokyo Police Launch Formal Investigation Into Mt Gox Bitcoin Disappearance - WSJ.com
ThickAsThieves: quick those guys
artifexd: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2014#777781 << Had me quite confused until I read this: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/nod-is-as-good-as-a-wink.html ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
assbot: A nod is as good as a wink
artifexd: Then... 2 lines later I get all confused again. mircea_popescu, can you clarify for me?
cazalla: speak of the devil..
artifexd: Is it a summoning spell?
mircea_popescu: lol what have you apprentice wizards done!
artifexd: Is your arrival at this time pure coincidence?
ThickAsThieves: nothing pure about it
mircea_popescu: lol impure coincidence.
cazalla: i'm reading that heuristics pdf again, perhaps they are incantations?
mircea_popescu: cazalla said "well, that too but they were warned". to this i said, "a nod is as good as a wink". as in, it shouldn't really take much warning that when a cock is going in and out of your butt, you're being fucked.
artifexd: aok ty
mircea_popescu: except, of course, if you're one of the sort of vain fucktards bitcoin's been blessed with. too good to obey, too fucking stupid to boil water.
mircea_popescu: and heuristics are incantations, but they don't summon me.
mircea_popescu: they summon the devil that lives in details.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/994/btc-to-top-800-before-august/ well it was a good showing
assbot: BitBet - BTC to top $800 before August :: 3.22 B (12%) on Yes, 23.62 B (88%) on No | closed 1 day 13 hours ago
mircea_popescu: assbot: A third of consumers with credit files had debts in collections last year - The Washington Post << clearly the economy's recovering o.O
ThickAsThieves: i will say, it's damn easy to have a random bill from some fucktarded scam or shitty company go to collections without people knowing it
ThickAsThieves: I have like a 900 credit score and had something in collections last year i think
mircea_popescu: "About 77 million Americans have a debt in collections, a new report finds."
mircea_popescu: a that's a good point.
mircea_popescu: the article conveniently doesn't report the average debt per 77 mn.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also fails to count the folks who borrowed from unofficial loan sharks
mircea_popescu: those are in collections by default.
asciilifeform: lol
ThickAsThieves: http://newsbtc.com/2014/07/30/bitpay-introduces-new-pricing-model-free-unlimited-forever/
assbot: BitPay Introduces New Pricing Model: Free, Unlimited, Forever | NEWSBTC
mircea_popescu: btw asciilifeform, re our discussion yest. im toying with the idea of putting together a bulk of russian "dark whateveritwas" writings and having them translated.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13702 @ 0.00078193 = 10.714 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: another place people 'borrow' is... the tax authorities. (how? many who are classified as 'contractor' aren't paying their bill on time, because gotta eat.)
ThickAsThieves: bitpay goes from service provider to skimmer i guess
mircea_popescu: you know it doesn't actually skim ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: having them translated << to english? this promises to be exceedingly difficult
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform myeah ;/
ThickAsThieves: "By comparison, one of BitPay’s biggest competitors here in the United States, Coinbase, offers a no-fee processing service for the first $1 million in bitcoin revenue. After that, a one percent fee is charged upon conversion from bitcoin to local currency."
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves : "The report analyzed 2013 credit data from TransUnion to calculate how many Americans were falling behind on their bills. It looked at how many people had non-mortgage bills, such as credit card bills, child support payments and medical bills, that are so past due that the account has since been closed and placed in collections."
ThickAsThieves: i doubt thats the deal Dell got
mircea_popescu: not random internet pron bill.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves textbook exercise in how to devalue a market to the point you can no longer survive in it.
ThickAsThieves: while i dont care, i could argue their wording is leading you
asciilifeform: child support payments << phun phact! we still have debtor's prisons for these in usa
mircea_popescu: Researchers relied on a random sample of 7 million people with data reported to the credit bureaus in 2013 to estimate what share of the 220 million Americans with credit files have debts in collection.
mircea_popescu: ffs.
mircea_popescu: nevermind, i'm not interested in what these doods have to say anymore.
ThickAsThieves: why use 7m when you have data for all?
mircea_popescu: But the median debt, $1,350, is still pretty substantial, she adds. who the fuck carwes what the median is. jesus.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what, you thought they had access to the real figures?
mircea_popescu: well they must be the only people on the planet who don't by now
mircea_popescu: maybe the carders should run these numbers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember the story about gorby and andropov? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: g: 'show me the real budget.' a: 'you're asking too much. that's off limits to you.' ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00259754 = 1.039 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: so i am sitting here with a glass of mineral water. it's a tall, about 12 oz glass. on it, some black bubbles as decor. i've had it for a while.
mircea_popescu: NOW i realise the fucking bubbles were done in ms paint.
mircea_popescu: back when gorby was young ?
ThickAsThieves: TBF has a new website https://bitcoinfoundation.org/
assbot: The Bitcoin Foundation | Standardizing, Promoting, and Protecting the Bitcoin Protocol
ThickAsThieves: pictures!
mircea_popescu: lol standardizing ?
ThickAsThieves: Priorities: Fund developers to tackle specific scalability and security challenges
ThickAsThieves: Increase transactions-per-second throughout
ThickAsThieves: Minimize orphan rates for miners
ThickAsThieves: Implement “UTXO commitments” blockchain pruning and “fully validating but not full-history” nodes
asciilifeform: microshit-style standardization, presumably
ThickAsThieves: lol
asciilifeform: 'embrace & extinguish'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 266 @ 0.00242001 = 0.6437 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Build an international rapid response team to respond to policy threats globally"
mircea_popescu: dude fucking backpackers.
ThickAsThieves: we're gonna need more guns
ThickAsThieves: their logo sux
ThickAsThieves: short it
asciilifeform: short it << outside my windows, a dead squirrel, buzzing with flies. how do i short it?
mircea_popescu: "Why We Need a Foundation" << wrong question. who's "we" and more importantly, why we don't need another scam run by vesseness ?
mircea_popescu: who, apparently, is also involved in the eth scam
mircea_popescu: that guy's like vleisides on steroids.
cazalla: i knew before i scrolled there would be a token black kid on that new site
ThickAsThieves: <+asciilifeform> short it << outside my windows, a dead squirrel, buzzing with flies. how do i short it? /// the eternal question
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform got a shovel ?
ThickAsThieves: compost
mircea_popescu: cazalla chumpatron knows their audience.
asciilifeform: that's not 'short' though
asciilifeform: to take it, would be to go 'long' on squirrel.
asciilifeform: thought being, not everything that's in obvious decomposition can be shorted
ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell justusranvier "Strictly speaking, a recycler is not essential. The ATM could remain unbanked by having a separate cash dispenser and cash acceptor, and this would mean that it would require manual servicing to move the cash from one receptacle to the other." Well if the point is to not use a bank, maybe take the time design machine that can spit out cash it receives itself?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: to correctly short squirrel, somebody must believe that it will get up and walk again, and then you bet against this
justusranvier: ThickAsThieves: The issue is cost and capacity of recyclers
mircea_popescu: i still don't get what do you think will prevent me from simply walking in, taking your atm and leaving.
justusranvier: They exist, but they are slow and don't handle many bills.
ThickAsThieves: thats just cuz no one put money into making them better i bet
mircea_popescu: it "not being nice" or something ?
cazalla: wonder if they ripped the design from this site http://www.viktyo.com/
assbot: VIKTYO | Beta
justusranvier: mircea_popescu: Same thing that prevents youfrom doing it to all the other ATMs in the world
mircea_popescu: not so.
mircea_popescu: all the other atms in the world are inside an invisible fortress. ☟︎
asciilifeform: justusranvier: the saecular authorities will not protect btc atm.
justusranvier: Ok. So what?
mircea_popescu: just because you don't see it yourself doesn't mean either that it's not there nor that you can make your own.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean so what ?
justusranvier: There is no need for secular authorities to protect the btc atm
mircea_popescu: you plan to make this thing out of magic fabric that only reveals itself to true believers and people it'd like to fuck ?
mircea_popescu: so... i can just take it ?
ThickAsThieves: justusranvier you posit a bankless atm, so you have accepted the tasks of competing with better ATMs, no?
cazalla: justusranvier, ATM's get stolen often here, steal a car, tie chain around ATM and off you go
justusranvier: The Bitcoin ATM that's physically closest to me is in a store (Brave New Books) where most of the employees have concealed handgun permits.
ThickAsThieves: this means being as useful as possible
justusranvier: They already have high-value merchandice that they keep an eye on to stop it from being stolen
ThickAsThieves: would BRINKS or such serve a bitcoin ATM?
asciilifeform: justusranvier: if it needs human pistoleros, it might as well be a box with a slave in it counting out cash
mircea_popescu: dise. but so what ? i can have this shop foreclosed on, can i not ?
ThickAsThieves: where to bring the cash tho...
justusranvier: mircea_popescu: I have no idea what kind of threat model you are trying to propose.
chetty: haha they should always be deployed right next to regular atms, simply everything
justusranvier: ThickAsThieves: The point of the proposal is that you in no way require Brinks
mircea_popescu: the kind of threat model when where you intend to break the laws of whatever lord, you'd better have better arms than him.
justusranvier: not at all
ThickAsThieves: thats the point mp is saying you have wrong i think
ThickAsThieves: security
justusranvier: Did I propose breaking any laws?
mircea_popescu: yes. in order to have a bitcoin atm, you must break aml/kyc.
mircea_popescu: this isn't avoidable.
mircea_popescu: if you break that, might as well just walk into the police station and start shooting randomly.
justusranvier: Maybe in the US, but it's not the only country in the world
ThickAsThieves: lies
mircea_popescu: the only reason random shithole allows you to do really obnoxious shit is that random shithole is small and dumb.
mircea_popescu: once you get big it'll change suddenly, and with little explanation.
ThickAsThieves: <+cazalla> wonder if they ripped the design from this site http://www.viktyo.com/ /// ha!
assbot: VIKTYO | Beta
mircea_popescu: in this sense, you;re basically saying that drugs aren;t illegal everywhere, such as chicago shooting district.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here's one gedanken-atm. it's inside a concrete block, cannot be repaired, etc. 50kg of thermite if disturbed. then, simply leave it somewhere reasonable. (network connectivity an exercise for alert reader.)
mircea_popescu: aml/kyc is a fundamental component of the current order. you can't annul it just like that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you will go to jail for unauthorised explosive device.
asciilifeform: naturally. if there's a 'you'
mircea_popescu: if you can make items that can';t be traced back to you, you've satisfied the rape requirement i detailed yest.
ThickAsThieves: dont they put palm readers and other AML things in some ATMs?
asciilifeform: as it is, it's just a terrorist infernal device that happens to dispense cash if treaded with kindness.
asciilifeform: *treated
ThickAsThieves: palm reader, hehe, maybe they should include tea-leaf readers too
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 625 @ 0.00184 = 1.15 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that would then not be a btc atm. it would be a satanic usg attack on btc.
mircea_popescu: just because something has btc IN it doesn';t make it btc-that something.
asciilifeform: these - are being built even now.
mircea_popescu: for instance, a bear trap is not bearham
ThickAsThieves: cant we just stop trying to accommodate fiat?
mircea_popescu: not anymore than we can stop accomodating that whore.
ThickAsThieves: let bitpay and friends worry about this kinda shit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, your terrorist infernal devices will be auto-dismantled.
mircea_popescu: not so fucking useful.
asciilifeform: probably.
asciilifeform: unless random people took initiative to shelter them secretly.
ThickAsThieves: mistaken for WMDs
mircea_popescu: samizdatbtc ?
asciilifeform: ('wanna come use my pet terror-atm ?')
mircea_popescu: guess what! this already happens!
mircea_popescu: usg is spending a lot of money time and resources trying to infiltrate it!
chetty: in a related topis: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101877574
assbot: Paying ransoms, Europe bankrolls Qaeda terror
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 507 @ 0.00242002 = 1.227 BTC [-] {2}
justusranvier: If you don't like physical ATMs, then implement the same trading algorithm with human traders
justusranvier: also works
mircea_popescu: chetty lol@cnbtc. and i guess the us hasn';t recently embarked in a joyride of paying ransoms to hide the reality of its middle eastern defeat ?
mircea_popescu: justusranvier explain the algorithm in question again for the benefit of they with difficulties reading ?
chetty: haha well I kinda just assume usg and eu is doing same stuffs these days
mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/4eb801b597985edc9c21a50230d3dcde/tumblr_mex511etlZ1qlne6uo1_500.png this is such a brilliant idea really.
ThickAsThieves: twist wrist and free?
ThickAsThieves: maybe dislocate thumb requires
ThickAsThieves: d
ThickAsThieves: nice design
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves not everyone';s got thieves wrists.
ThickAsThieves: "The New York Times found that Al Qaeda and its direct affiliates have taken in at least $125 million in revenue from kidnappings since 2008, of which $66 million was paid just last year."
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yeah, it's actually impossible to keep a well trained slavegirl restrained. she'll wiggle out, over time. this being more for the engineering of it etc.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves see now THEY could make a bitcoin atm.
chetty: haha just wait until AQ wants it ransoms in btc
ThickAsThieves: seems their atm works just fine
ThickAsThieves: put in Europeans, withdraw millions
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9y3xxsbmm1rtfxf4o1_500.jpg << is it wrong that i really like this concept ?
chetty: yes
chetty: (he isnt almost naked, thats the problem)
mircea_popescu: the subtext i read there is, guy buys diamond ring, girl spends a few hours on the end of a leash that day.
mircea_popescu: comes back, little worse for the wear.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31241 @ 0.00078221 = 24.437 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00242004 = 0.968 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;refresh
gribble: Order refresh successful, 2 orders refreshed.
chetty: you never seem to see the same symbols as the rest of us
ThickAsThieves: he has sexualized glasses
mircea_popescu: no, you all see the world through monoculture glasses!
cazalla: that shit is constantly on 4chan but it's shitty bait
ThickAsThieves: i try so hard, but still i only see with my own eyes
mircea_popescu: "The ruling requires Argentina to pay 100 percent of its debt to the holdouts at the same time Argentina pays the restructured bonds to the “holdins.” Argentina is not allowed, under Griesa’s ruling, to pay some creditors but not others. The payment date was June 30. Because Argentina missed its payment, it is now under a 30-day grace period. If Argentina does not pay by the end of July it will, again, be formall
mircea_popescu: y in default."
mircea_popescu: http://mises.org/daily/6825/Understanding-Argentinas-Coming-Default
assbot: Understanding Argentinas Coming Default - Nicolás Cachanosky - Mises Daily
chetty: mircea_popescu, is there anything in life that does not relate to sex?
mircea_popescu: this isn't really a fair statement of the problem
mircea_popescu: i guess im writing a blogpost.
mircea_popescu: chetty did you say life ?
chetty: yeah, meant as a generic term, not biology
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: and suddenly the glasses are in plain view.
mircea_popescu: what the holy fuckballs of heaven do you mean "generic term not biology" ?
ThickAsThieves: hehe
mircea_popescu: cazalla you don't see the merits in taking another man's wife from time to time ?
ThickAsThieves: is there anything in sex that does not relate to life
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves roughly half.
chetty: well apparently a failed attmept to forestall you going on that life obviously means sex ..
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i did it once and felt horrible, after i had fucked her though
mircea_popescu: what's to forestall ? things are what they are not what we wanna see them as.
chetty: the question comes down to, whats the sex in a stock exchange trade?
cazalla: met her online, she invited me over, i get there, lets me straight in and then tells me to be quiet because her kids are asleep, news to me at that point, she had kicked her husband out few days prior too
mircea_popescu: cazalla a that's no good.
ThickAsThieves: maybe i can translate for chetty, or at least put words in her mouth. you have a hyper-sexualized view of things, using sex as metaphor constantly, being quite horny, keeping sex slaves, sex is majorly part of your psyche, going so far as to imply a hypersexual person is a hypersuccessful person/ why do you think it's so important and how does this relate to the inferiority assumed by
ThickAsThieves: your average desexualized beta mangirl
mircea_popescu: well, the objection'd be that hyper requires an average, and not only is there a good objective average sex, but why would anyone care ? this then reduces the problem to a personal matter, "he talks more of it than i do. this is inconvenient for x y z reasons."
mircea_popescu: not only is there not*
mircea_popescu: remarkably enough, my use of the sex metaphor is actually unrelated to sex. it just happens to be an incredibly good structure for explaining things to people, especially people who haven't spent a lot of time thinking, either generally or on the topic at hand.
cazalla: only part that bothers me is half of mircea_popescu tumblr links look like they came from rusty and eddies
mircea_popescu: ths because they HAVE spent a lot of time thinking about sex.
mircea_popescu: cazalla i'm an equal opportunity asshole!
chetty: ThickAsThieves, that close to what I meant. But nothing really to do personally with Mircea and sex, more how does he manage to see it everything
ThickAsThieves: so the distilled answer is, "Dude I like sex more than you, it ain't mean nuthin!" ?
chetty: mircea_popescu, yes thats exactly what I was trying to get at
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 294 @ 0.00242005 = 0.7115 BTC [+] {4}
rithm: i like sex
mircea_popescu: rithm a, but does sex like you back ?
rithm: sex likes me
rithm: i asked it
ThickAsThieves: sex is a slut
mircea_popescu: i once knew a stripper named sex.
ThickAsThieves: her tastes were quite complex
mircea_popescu: lol this is for real.
rithm: she sat on my pole,
chetty: serial limericks?
ThickAsThieves: my wallet cajoled
rithm: and boy, when i came did she squeal
rithm: or -ex
rithm: mp messed it up
ThickAsThieves: hehe
ThickAsThieves: here's one i made yesterday
ThickAsThieves: Princessnell, she casts a spell, with words longer than I can spell. She found her calling in verbal brawling, but who's winning? No one can tell.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly the definition of a good lay
mircea_popescu: a spirited bout of brawling with no clear victor.
rithm: lol
ThickAsThieves: rhyming spell with spell = pro
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 199 @ 0.00251847 = 0.5012 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you're also implying that the source of her intellect is mystical.
mircea_popescu: this because you're a cis scum privilege-mongering woman hater.
mircea_popescu: or perhaps for want of a pair of glasses :D
ThickAsThieves: nope it's just cuz i wanna read and digest her articles but they are so fukn dense with words and links
ThickAsThieves: the limerick was my way of complaining
mircea_popescu: so basically you think her intellect is mystical because you love her so much ?
mircea_popescu: "honey, i don't want you to leave the house anymore"
ThickAsThieves: i dont even know her
mircea_popescu: sorry son, you've stepped into feminism hour here at horror hotel.
ThickAsThieves: is it at least happy hour too?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47850 @ 0.0007873 = 37.6723 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: i think for pot only.
ThickAsThieves: perfect
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, these people here are fucking nuts. do you know what the #1 universal question is, as you start getting intimate ?
mircea_popescu: not "do you wanna fuck me", not "do you think im fat", not even what fucking bands you like. no. none of that.
mircea_popescu: "do you smoke pot" they want to know.
ThickAsThieves: lol
mircea_popescu: im like... what is this, highschool ?
ThickAsThieves: everyone is doing it mircea
ThickAsThieves: be one of us
mircea_popescu: THIS is what personality and interpersonal bonding is predicated upon ? fucking pot ?
ThickAsThieves: it does enhance orgasm
mircea_popescu: i dun want my orgasm fucking enhanced.
ThickAsThieves: lol
mircea_popescu: everything enhances orgasm, for crying out loud. including not doing it for a while.
mircea_popescu: now why would i want that ? let them be boring and plain old ordinarily unenhanced.
ThickAsThieves: do you also not drink booze with sex?
mircea_popescu: wait, you can actually make your penis drink ?!
mircea_popescu: from a cup or do you have a little trough for it ?
ThickAsThieves: i only smoke pot with my dick
ThickAsThieves: get with the program
mircea_popescu: occasionally one runs into a well work whore that can smoke with her cunt.
mircea_popescu: it's generally a good sign.
ThickAsThieves: that should be your response then
ThickAsThieves: Do you smoke pot? Does your cunt smoke pot?
ThickAsThieves: maybe she can shotgun you from below
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30131 @ 0.0007897 = 23.7945 BTC [+] {4}
ThickAsThieves: sexualize the pot, dont potualize the sex
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: genetically engineered vaginal water pipe.
mircea_popescu: ALWAYS WET
chetty: and here I thought pot mostly made people lazy and hungry ...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 419 @ 0.00199874 = 0.8375 BTC [+] {9}
ThickAsThieves: depends on the pot and the person
ThickAsThieves: but generlaly you are correct
ThickAsThieves: Anyone who used Tor between early February and July 4th of 2014 "should assume they were affected" by the attack, says the Tor team.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6645 @ 0.00079094 = 5.2558 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: http://pando.com/2014/07/30/payments-giant-first-data-acquires-gyft-in-an-effort-to-bring-digital-gift-cards-to-the-masses/
assbot: EXCLUSIVE: Payments giant First Data acquires Gyft in an effort to bring digital gift cards to the masses | PandoDaily
rithm: whoa gyft got assimilated
mircea_popescu: !up pleego
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artifexd: <gribble> Rating change | Old rating 2 | New rating: danielpbarron > -4 > birdman | have known face-to-face for several years; currently an idiot, but there is still hope.. <<< LOL
artifexd: <gribble> New rating | birdman > 3 > danielpbarron | Holds alot of my btc, very knowlageable with cryptography, is childish and doesnt understand the web of trust. negative rated me for getting devoice on #bitcoin-assets. Rationalizes that he had to change the +2 he had for me to a -4 because of his appearence there. Not to mention i was devoiced there
artifexd: because some regular there picked a fight. Very trustworthy when i comes to busines <<< Moar lol
artifexd: Once could use the #bitcoin-otc-ratings channel as source material for a very funny soap opera.
danielpbarron: it wasn't just for that; we had an extended conversation after that incident and I didn't like his attitude about it
artifexd: I get it. I really do. I still find it funny.
ThickAsThieves: "Why not use a more reputable site like nitrogensports or cloudbet?"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 4999 @ 0.00070119 = 3.5052 BTC [-] {6}
danielpbarron: heh; I know one of the mods for nitrogen; he lives in the town over from me; met him face-to-face for some BTC deals
danielpbarron: even got him on irc, but he refused to join the WoT and i eventually told him to buzz off
ThickAsThieves: danielpbarron everything is about you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.0007934 = 7.0216 BTC [+]
rithm: i spend a majority of my day hanging on danielpbarron's every line of text.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the kid has a lot of zeal doesn't he ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron dedication is a virtue, but too much of a virtue can be a sin. even your church preaches temperance, does it not ?
mircea_popescu: !s birdman
assbot: 21 results for 'birdman' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=birdman
ThickAsThieves: i ordered two t-shirts with a btc logo in the style of a citi bank logo
danielpbarron: self-control is certainly a requirement for salvation
ThickAsThieves: they came just fine
ThickAsThieves: now the company says they were sorry for misprint and will send more
ThickAsThieves: free shirtz!
mircea_popescu: lol ?
ThickAsThieves: http://i.imgur.com/4kc4RDh.png
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31850 @ 0.00079169 = 25.2153 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.0007934 = 19.1209 BTC [+]
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/understanding-argentina%e2%80%99s-coming-default-for-real-this-time/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 217 @ 0.00269732 = 0.5853 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00078633 = 13.4856 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71011060 BTC to 12`743 shares, 13420 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 18.20431004 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1583 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4000 @ 0.00259864 = 10.3946 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 480 @ 0.00263166 = 1.2632 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 231 @ 0.00274498 = 0.6341 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6344 @ 0.00078198 = 4.9609 BTC [-]
mthreat: mircea_popescu: me gusta el articulo sobre el default. pero escribiste "Cristina" como "Christina"
chetty: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-30/moscow-stock-exchange-breaks-trading-halted
assbot: Moscow Stock Exchange Breaks - Trading Halted | Zero Hedge
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1097 @ 0.00274489 = 3.0111 BTC [-] {6}
artifexd: True story: My wife and my daughter are both named "Cristina"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 690 @ 0.00274998 = 1.8975 BTC [+] {3}
kuzetsa: http://media.tumblr.com/4b6a8fd428a4100035cac7d314d4010a/tumblr_inline_n845mrEL6X1stuimt.jpg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00079114 = 11.1551 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: 'One glimpse at the following chart of Russian stocks today and one wonders if the West needed to arrest the gains that their "costs" had imposed...'
asciilifeform: run more winblows.
asciilifeform: build more 'elbrus' wintel clones.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00079114 = 12.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00079139 = 19.2308 BTC [+] {2}
cgcardona: top of tha morning #bitcoin-assets o/
cgcardona: how many people have taken MP up on the ether deal? Is that data public?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6789 @ 0.00079114 = 5.371 BTC [-]
cgcardona: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 571.01, Best ask: 572.45, Bid-ask spread: 1.44000, Last trade: 571.01, 24 hour volume: 7264.21567232, 24 hour low: 568.0, 24 hour high: 586.0, 24 hour vwap: 576.187508687
mircea_popescu: mthreat well it's in english :[
mircea_popescu: :p*
mthreat: ok Mercha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00078739 = 21.6532 BTC [-] {2}
mthreat: 95.1 FM in buenos aires, talking about btc right now
mthreat: http://streema.com/radios/Metro_95.1
assbot: Metro 95.1 - FM 95.1 - Buenos Aires, Argentina - Listen Online
mircea_popescu: cgcardona nobody.
mircea_popescu: mthreat omfg that's evil.
asciilifeform: http://www.tscm.com/TSCM101tempest.html << masterful propaganda.
assbot: Granite Island Group
asciilifeform: (99% facts, 1% 'anyone who demos a 'tempest' setup is both con artist and criminal, plug yer ears')
asciilifeform: (scroll down, author revealed... certified usg stooge)
asciilifeform: why they always must brag? were they quiet, they might actually fool somebody
mircea_popescu: depends who that somebody is.
asciilifeform: rather like the apparently inexhaustible scamz0rs who post proposal for whatever, and you scroll, see 'member of btc Phoundation'
asciilifeform: at that point, if he says 'sky is blue', you find yourself going out with a spectrometer - can't take his word...
mircea_popescu: something like that.
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FabianB: $traded
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mircea_popescu: "When I am observing the Arnhem chimpanzees I sometimes feel I am studying Freud’s primal horde; as if a time machine has taken me back to prehistoric times, so that I can observe the village life of our ancestors. They still accept the droit du seigneur, one of the forgotten products of western culture. When Yeroen was the alpha male, he alone was responsible for about three-quarters of all matings. Not counting sex
mircea_popescu: ual intercourse with young females (who arouse less rivalry), his share was almost 100 %. Sex was his monopoly in the group." (de Waal 1990: 167-168).
mircea_popescu: remarkable that chimps are saner than people, and don't really care about the young girls.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nothing specifically primate here. consider the elephant seal, etc
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: !spank kakobrekla
assbot: spank kako spank!
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ;;google go go second time virgin
gribble: Go, Go Second Time Virgin (1969) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065233/>; Go, Go, Second Time Virgin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go,_Go,_Second_Time_Virgin>; Koji Wakamatsu's Go, Go Second Time Virgin – Offscreen: <http://offscreen.com/view/wakamatsu1>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16903 @ 0.00079199 = 13.387 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: >Wikipedia Now Accepts Bitcoin Donations With Coinbase
kakobrekla: Posted 1 hour ago
kakobrekla: hehe
mircea_popescu: herp.
mthreat: i went to give $50 and the form required a name and email address, and i left
xmj: fluffypony: we've launched iteration II
xmj: fluffypony: http://www.perceivon.net
assbot: Perceivon Hosting Inc.
artifexd: !spank mircea_popescu
artifexd: boooo
assbot: spank mp spank
mircea_popescu: donating to wikipedia is kind of like donating to korea's rocketry programme. even if it were valid science i still wouldn't do it.
artifexd: kakobrekla: How does assbot come up with the abbreviations for responding to spank?
kakobrekla: NN algo.
artifexd: No. Seriously.
kakobrekla: seriously.
artifexd: What was the training material?
kakobrekla: 26 years of kako
artifexd: You say "NN". I read "Neural Net". Did I misread?
fluffypony: Non Nude?
mthreat: mircea_popescu: I guess I want it to stick around, so i want to donate
artifexd: Maybe nearest neighbor. That would make your response more sensical.
mircea_popescu: WETWARE
mircea_popescu: assbot's a sloot.
assbot: spank arti spank
artifexd: !s spank
assbot: 39 results for 'spank' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spank
kakobrekla: artifexd it is i, leclerc.
mthreat: now when I read ben lawsky's name, I read it in my head as "ben lolsky"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00078808 = 26.7947 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: it is a lawly name.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37889 @ 0.00078469 = 29.7311 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20999 @ 0.00078264 = 16.4347 BTC [-] {2}
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/time-for-some-bitlicenses-of-our-own/
mircea_popescu: coingenuity http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-bitcoin-defrauding-20140729-story.html ?
assbot: Bitcoin trading website accused of defrauding thousands of customers - LA Times
rithm: mmhmmmm
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: letter to the sultan!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hm ?
asciilifeform: obligatory:
asciilifeform: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Ilja_Jefimowitsch_Repin_009.jpg
mircea_popescu: ;;rate coingenuity -1 http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-bitcoin-defrauding-20140729-story.html apparently there's substance to all those nondelivery claims ?
assbot: Bitcoin trading website accused of defrauding thousands of customers - LA Times
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user coingenuity has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform :p
mircea_popescu: i didn't think the rss had propagated yet.
rithm: mtgox may have done in whatever coinabul's business model was
rithm: personal speculation
mod6: hrm. I placed 2 small orders and recieved, but that was over a year ago :/
rithm: my orders were small and delayed
rithm: but received
rithm: i think the business model had a side business involving time-value
rithm: hence delay
rithm: but i have no proof of this
BigBitz: but coinginuity always claimed to be a multi-millionaire metal dealer. etc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00078252 = 17.1372 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;seen coinginuity
gribble: I have not seen coinginuity.
rithm: BigBitz i believe this to be a fabrication
BigBitz: What's that?
BigBitz: his multi-millionaire aspect? :p
rithm: correct.
fluffypony: or the part where he beats people up outside bars
thickasthieves: ;;seen coingenuity
gribble: coingenuity was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours, 58 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <coingenuity> mircea_popescu: there's a lot of them
kakobrekla: yeah i thought i seen him here
mod6: he's in here now, just not voiced.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00078094 = 17.8835 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: also re nondelivery https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606385.0
assbot: Kraken - 6 months and still cannot get my money
kakobrekla: the PR reply starts with
kakobrekla: Hi shardymop - I'm really sorry about the trouble you've been having
kakobrekla: goxitup!
kuzetsa: hmm
kuzetsa: I'm flattered I suppose --- someone from here (presumably) is vaguely stalking me & now following me on twitter O_O
artifexd: ;;later tell jurov Did you come up with a script for the wot video? Do you still need somebody to record the mac version?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kuzetsa: whoever is @Bitcoin_Assets, I assume, is from in here (though I could be mistaken in that assumption)
kakobrekla: kuzetsa i think tat has that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21390 @ 0.00077844 = 16.6508 BTC [-] {2}
thickasthieves: stalking, research, what's the difference
thickasthieves: you were being elusive so i googled
jurov: artifexd i'm looking forward to a mostly offline week, scripting will come later.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 25 @ 0.022 = 0.55 BTC
jurov: tat is into grandmas?
thickasthieves: grandma?
thickasthieves: https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/494597684229992448
thickasthieves: http://www.scribd.com/doc/235471330/Adverse-Job-Impact-of-the-DFS-BitLicense-Proposal
assbot: Adverse Job Impact of the DFS BitLicense Proposal
thestringpuller: WoT video?
thestringpuller: !s wot video
assbot: 0 results for 'wot video' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=wot+video
thestringpuller: !s web of trust video
assbot: 0 results for 'web of trust video' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=web+of+trust+video
thestringpuller: :(
artifexd: !s wot recording
assbot: 7 results for 'wot recording' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=wot+recording
artifexd: Summary: Make a few videos showing how to register a nick, create a key, register in the wot.
artifexd: thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2014#777306 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
thestringpuller: thx
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6211 @ 0.00078368 = 4.8674 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6763 @ 0.00078736 = 5.3249 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Implement “UTXO commitments” blockchain pruning and “fully validating but not full-history” nodes << Killing this is basically the goal of Fall 2014-2015
jborkl: where is the mpex.co site now?
BingoBoingo: mpex.ws
jborkl: sweet, thank you
jurov: $proxies
empyex: jurov: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 931 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
jborkl: answered my next question
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 989 @ 0.0025807 = 2.5523 BTC [-] {19}
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spoondoolies-delivers-first-sp30/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17026 @ 0.00078755 = 13.4088 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 313241 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1254 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19751039961.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.41511
kakobrekla: this thing is like a virus.
fluffypony: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 2 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> i didn't think the rss had propagated yet.
fluffypony: such quiet
kakobrekla: go back to work!
fluffypony: kakobrekla: you're not the boss of me!
kakobrekla: i do what i want!
fluffypony: go to your room!
fluffypony: oh wait, this is your room
fluffypony: nm then
kakobrekla: just on paper.
fluffypony: such benevolence :-P
kakobrekla: ikr.
fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717719.0
assbot: has 'blocktech' been associated with anything other than pump and dumps?
fluffypony: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12524 @ 0.00078651 = 9.8503 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: brought to you by the David Seaman circlejerk
fluffypony: !up FoOdies5
fluffypony: !up neuroMode
fluffypony: FoOdies5, neuroMode, you guys have interacted with blocktech no?
FoOdies5: yup
fluffypony: or just with Weiner?
FoOdies5: just weiner
FoOdies5: lol can't even type his name without smiling
FoOdies5: 8bit interacted with one of their devs
fluffypony: this whole Naut / Dirac thing seems like one continuous stream of bullshit
FoOdies5: personally
FoOdies5: it's in my top 10 ongoing retarded crypto schemes list
FoOdies5: near the top
fluffypony: lol
FoOdies5: firstly a coin created by a wallstreet guy is obviously a get rich quick/slow scheme
FoOdies5: either way it's a scheme
fluffypony: with a "stabilisation fund" that hasn't stabilised anything
FoOdies5: and dirac ... wat ?
FoOdies5: what the fuck can you stabilize with a premine ?
FoOdies5: maybe keep the coin from going up
FoOdies5: by dumping
FoOdies5: that you can do
Duffer1: i read that as blatant manipulation, we just use different words
Duffer1: ""
fluffypony: yeah
FoOdies5: either way it's clear cut what the goal of that coin is
FoOdies5: so it baffles me why anyone in their right mind would invest in it
fluffypony: tbh I don't know if the NBC "contributor" / blogger dude intended it that way
FoOdies5: except maybe if he can outtrade the owner and get some money
FoOdies5: or ride it
fluffypony: the article he wrote was all like "this is my little experiment"
fluffypony: and I think Weiner et. al. convinced him it could be "bigger" than an experiment
Duffer1: consider the audience foodies, reddit/bitcointalk "investors"
fluffypony: lol
FoOdies5: or a social experiment to see how dumb people can be
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 285 @ 0.0025 = 0.7125 BTC [-]
fluffypony: that too
FoOdies5: Duffer1 I applaud your quotes
FoOdies5: sorry I was helping preggers get ready for sleep
fluffypony: how far along is she?
FoOdies5: 9 months yesterday
FoOdies5: lel
fluffypony: I think it's about time
FoOdies5: ticking timebomb
fluffypony: I'm guessing, though
fluffypony: :-P
FoOdies5: I swear she's waiting to steal my birthday
FoOdies5: which is tomorrow (1st aug)
FoOdies5: her mom stole it by setting our wedding date on my b-day
FoOdies5: and now the daughter wants to be born on my b-day
FoOdies5: fucking women
fluffypony: lol
FoOdies5: .... wait that's how I got in this whole mess to begin with ... by fucking women
FoOdies5: so scratch that
BigBitz: fuck men?
BigBitz is out...
fluffypony: BigBitz has a point
FoOdies5: out in a blaze of glory
FoOdies5: seriously tho when the fuck is Kubo gonna switch to Bach vs Squad 0 fights already
FoOdies5: this zombies shit is boooooring
fluffypony: I have no idea what you just said
neuroMode: unfortunately for NAUT
FoOdies5: manga
FoOdies5: Bleach
neuroMode: I think Brian Kelly is shooting himself in the foot by listening to the cryptogoblins pushing for POS
fluffypony: FoOdies5: aaah, outside of my wheelhouse
fluffypony: neuroMode: agreed
neuroMode: Naut immediately becomes a pyramid scheme
neuroMode: like all other POS coins
fluffypony: I can't look at a PoS coin without thinking it stands for "piece of shit"
neuroMode: agreed
neuroMode: its almost like its a joke
neuroMode: purposefully named with that acronym
neuroMode: i mean...let's create artificially rare coins that only have a week of distribution
neuroMode: now, let's all make it our job to try and convince someone else to buy it for more than we paid
neuroMode: with no other means of obtaining it
fluffypony: I don't fundamentally have an issue with PoS as an experiment (albeit one doomed for failure at present)
fluffypony: I just hate this bait-and-switch tactic that seems to be common
neuroMode: it becomes very obviously a pyramid scheme no matter how well disguised the marketing campaign is
neuroMode: yep
neuroMode: and you know a dev is naive
fluffypony: launch a PoW shitcoin, and then "suddenly" announce it's changing to PoS
neuroMode: when he succumbs to his community's derailed wishes to turn POS
neuroMode: yep. its all the cryptogoblins that pout about inflation and have a very narrow scope of cryptocurrencies
FoOdies5: what's tiresome is the endless waves of supporters for these piles of shit
neuroMode: indeed
neuroMode: it never ends
neuroMode: no matter how muhc money people lose
neuroMode: cryptocurrencies are more of a casino to gamble at
neuroMode: than any real 'investment'
neuroMode: to the majority of people nowadays
fluffypony: I wonder how much of it is the same group of retards investing in a new shitcoin hoping to get rich
neuroMode: i wonder how many actual devs there are making these coins. Its likea fucking business now. I bet its like 5 groups of guys
neuroMode: its all too cookie-cutter
neuroMode: same logo designs
fluffypony: thickasthieves is best altcoin dev
fluffypony: he launched this: http://therealaltcoin.org
assbot: The Real Altcoin (ATC) – Never Mine Another Altcoin Again
neuroMode: heh
fluffypony: :-Pa
neuroMode stops everything im doing, dumps all other altcoins, and buys Altcoin
neuroMode: game over man
fluffypony: done and dusted
fluffypony: I see the new thing is you have to release a whitepaper
fluffypony: but it shouldn't have any maths or cryptography in
neuroMode: lol
fluffypony: just nonsensical diagrams and walls of text written by a monkey
neuroMode: a glorified OP post
neuroMode: its such a disgrace to what actual research/white papers are
fluffypony: mypersonal favourite is the SummerCoinV2 whitepaper
neuroMode: lol
neuroMode: u have a quicklink?
fluffypony: https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F33233oj.jpg&t=542&c=EXXu8SAvckAPmw
fluffypony: that's an image from it
fluffypony: actual whitepaper: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyc04dd9m64i5l2/Navajo%20Anonymous%20Technology%20Whitepaper%28English%29.pdf
assbot: Dropbox - Navajo Anonymous Technology Whitepaper(English).pdf
fluffypony: I believe that all altcoins in the future should include Star Gates
fluffypony: I'm disappointed that thickasthieves hasn't even bothered releasing a whitepaper promising Choctaw Star Gates for Altcoin
BingoBoingo: <fluffypony> I don't fundamentally have an issue with PoS as an experiment (albeit one doomed for failure at present) << Proof of Stake essentially lets big bagholders delude themselves longer by becoming still bigger bagholders
neuroMode: Navajo Anonymous Technology Whitepaper AKA FAQ
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: yep - what I meant is that I don't have a problem if someone launches a PoS coin with something fundamentally different to PPC, I don't think it's bad to play with stuff in a real-world environment
fluffypony: but they break their social contract when they launch as one thing and then suddenly change to another
neuroMode: pre-fucking-cisely
BingoBoingo: Well, the same breach happens when a coin switches from mining its own chain to merged mining
BingoBoingo: Many a lower case altcoin died that way
neuroMode: it just emphasizes the pointlessness and aimlessness of the coin, and makes the coin now flagged for possible scam
fluffypony: yep
FoOdies5: BingoBoingo merged mining should be a feature for niche coins
FoOdies5: coins with the purpose of serving small niches that won't attract big mining
fluffypony: the ones that need to peg to another blockchain for security
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: Not really, the market forces merged mining brings a lot of coins to an early slaughter.
BingoBoingo: Larger miners have an incentive to dump immediately
FoOdies5: so that via merged mining they secure their chain in exchange for a part of their reward
FoOdies5: merged mining + lower coinbase for auxpow
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: if it becomes the "in thing" to use your own cryptocurrency for loyalty systems we may see more of this
FoOdies5: they need to offer as much as they're willing to get dumped
FoOdies5: exactly fluffypony
BingoBoingo: !up FoOdies5
BingoBoingo: !up neuroMode
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: There's also the chance that the big miner that picks up a coin for Merged mining won't be friendly to it, see CoiledCoin as an early example
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3000001 = 0.6 BTC [+]
FoOdies5: I'm not aware of it's fate
FoOdies5: tl;dr ?
fluffypony: FoOdies5: it merge-mined with Bitcoin
fluffypony: so Luke-Jr used the hashing power on Eligius to 51% attack the coin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3000001 = 0.6 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: !up Luke-Jr
kakobrekla: told ya, child rapists.
fluffypony: a lot of miners got pissy that Luke-Jr was using their hash without their permission
ben_vulpes: man can we yet drop this btc thing and just start using integer satoshi plz?
ben_vulpes: yet? still? now?
FoOdies5: what a complete douche
fluffypony: ben_vulpes: we first have to move to "Bits"
ben_vulpes: fluffypony: bwaaaaat
fluffypony: and then argue for a few years
ben_vulpes: no
ben_vulpes: 0
ben_vulpes: 1
ben_vulpes: infinity
fluffypony: ikr
ben_vulpes: there's a limit, let's go to it.
fluffypony: did you hear about the Blockchain.info iOS wallet?
ben_vulpes buries head in co--
FoOdies5: what about it ?
ben_vulpes: no what
fluffypony: I think it runs in Bits by default
ben_vulpes: what is a fucking Bit
fluffypony: when you click on a payment link
FoOdies5: how much is Bit ?
fluffypony: it assumes you're paying in Bits
fluffypony: FoOdies5: 100 satoshis
FoOdies5: ah
ben_vulpes: ffs are you serious?
fluffypony: yep
fluffypony: they patched it
fluffypony: but not before people made payments that were 1/100000 of what they meant to pay
ben_vulpes: mediocre engineers as far as the eyes can see
ben_vulpes sticks his head back into the code-sands
fluffypony: this is the problem that occurs when "functional tests" involve "I can send and receive 0.0005 BTC"
FoOdies5: scarcity side-effect
FoOdies5: people will fuck up when they have a gazillion decimals to work with
kakobrekla: i did the scaling long ago btw
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=197435.msg2065663#msg2065663
assbot: Why I'm switching to mXBT and why you should too
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: I thought we all agreed we were going to switch to Tonal Bitcoin?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.29083333 = 1.745 BTC [-] {3}
FoOdies5: are all crypto enthusiasts doing drugs ?
FoOdies5: kek
FoOdies5: tortilla recipe
fluffypony: how am I ever going to be able to say :"just send ma 4.3743 BongBitcoin"
ben_vulpes: i hate you all
FoOdies5: why me ?
fluffypony: no you don't
FoOdies5: I'm new here
FoOdies5: :|
FoOdies5: semi
fluffypony: on that high note
fluffypony: I'm out
fluffypony: night all
kakobrekla: good luck
ben_vulpes: (i don't actually, fluffypony )
FoOdies5: gn fatso
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: The short story of CoiledCoin is you need to find and read the long story to understand the things making lowercase altcoins fail have been happening for a long time as the Coiled Coin story makes an interesting contrast to other altcoins which were its contemporaries and still died albeit in other ways
BingoBoingo: This current drama with Doge, LTC, ethereum et al happened before 2-3 years ago
BingoBoingo: !up FoOdies5
BingoBoingo: !up neuroMode
neuroMode: :)
neuroMode: BingoBoingo, do you have a good link for CoiledCoin?
FoOdies5: I just googled it
FoOdies5: the dev is basically saying Luke-Jr is a douche in the op
BingoBoingo: neuroMode: Maybe? Maybe the searching is part of the point? Searching gets you the failure of its comtemporaries as well if you dig right
FoOdies5: and declaring the coin dead
neuroMode: lmgtfmyself
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: You merely found the post. Find the narrative, the story behind it.
BingoBoingo: Also apparently mircea_popescu is unwelcome in West Virginia http://gawker.com/woman-walks-naked-man-on-dog-leash-puts-unknown-object-1613629007
assbot: Woman Walks Naked Man on Dog Leash, Puts Unknown Object in His Anus