assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 49 @ 0.0141001 = 0.6909 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.01679599 = 0.5039 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: looking at this data, bitcoin is just about the largest one thing on freenode.
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mircea_popescu: mike_c the best part is where wikipedia and darkcoin are about the same size.
mircea_popescu: "Built and operated in the United States, Bittrex is the next generation crypto trading platform created by security professionals. We are crypto-coin enthusiasts bringing more than 50 years of combined security and development experience to the trading community from companies, including Microsoft, Amazon, Qualys, and BlackBerry.
mircea_popescu: Given the recent security breaches and reliability issues experienced by other markets, we felt the community deserved better. If virtual currencies are to truly take off, trustworthy infrastructure is a prerequisite."
mircea_popescu: * Topic for #bittrex is: richie doesn't know how to send emails OR use topics...
BayAreaCoins: Going pretty good man. I'm kind of in that limbo stage of waiting on nerdos to finish up code... Feel like that has been the story of my life for 4-6 months :)
BayAreaCoins: I think once all of it comes together... well it will come together :P Just kind of selling a gun or two while I wait. I need a new bag because I'm sorta bored with everything atm.. Life :D
BayAreaCoins: How is Romania for coins? Pretty wide usage over there?
mike_c: what are the nerdos working on?
BayAreaCoins: mike_c A automated drop shipping company and then a alt that I think is semi interesting (Huntercoin)
mike_c: automated drop shipping of what? you got warehouses or connections to suppliers?
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu ah very nice. I think if I was going to live in South America I'd be looking at Belize (ambergris caye.) Any reason why you chose Argentina over the other countries?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.19000949 = 5.7003 BTC [-] {8}
mircea_popescu: <elbzonet[drkbot]> mol: 1.0 DRK @ 0.01047380 DRK/BTC (source:mintpal|53s) = 0.010474 BTC / 6.66 USD (source:bitstamp:40s)
mircea_popescu: <elbzonet[drkbot]> mol: 673 active masternodes (source:elbzone|8m6s) @ 0.01047380 DRK/BTC (source:mintpal|1m4s) = 7048.87 BTC / 4490058.05 USD in stake (source:bitstamp|55s)
BayAreaCoins: mike_c No need for warehouses or partnerships to start out with. Basically what the company is going to do is relist items with a very small price bump and automate everything. We have been testing with 200 items for the past little bit and are seeing a good chunk of volume moving. I guess my main concern is that the shippers do their job because refunds are going to be a total and complete pain in the ass.
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BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu at a automated drop shipping company? Yes it is
thestringpuller: you might as well just buy an amazon gift card off of GYFT
mike_c: good luck, it's a crowded field. got a website up?
mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins well then you won't be too surprised we just expect you to fail and learn from the experience ?
BayAreaCoins: mike_c not yet, still working on the code. Drop shipping Amazon from Ebay to start out with. Domain is locked down and I submitted articles of organization last night.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18510001 = 0.9255 BTC [-]
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu I never go into anything expecting to fail, but if I do that is why I have the LLC up :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.18251127 = 1.4601 BTC [-] {4}
BayAreaCoins: Can't live life in fear of failure or you'll never take the chance you need to succeed. If I had a nickle for every time I fucked up... I'd have far more nickles than I do now ;)
mircea_popescu: i guess an automated online auction scalper isn't the absolute worst first project someone may try.
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu No inventor and no employees that is always a plus. It'll be interesting needless to say. Our ebay lister is stacked with 24,000 items, but getting ebay to up our limits is a bit of a pain in the ass.
BayAreaCoins: What are you guys investing in BTC wise as of late? Losing JD has me a bit lost on the BTC investment side. Although, I'm balls deep in a alt I think has a good chance.
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gribble: Current Blocks: 310477 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 2002 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 0 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17408856848.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.41843
mike_c: still looking good for Monday? i'm getting an idiff itch.
mircea_popescu: mike_c so far. you never know with these things until you get to test them
BayAreaCoins: Mostly in the Altcoin world I'm just trying to keep my holdings of HUC @ 5-10% of the O/S... I feel like ever since DOGE it has just exploded with shit on shit that is topped off with shit.
mike_c: "a human mine-able crypto currency" you know some people around here think BTC is human mineable.
BayAreaCoins: I like the mining structure and having potential to "create" jobs. Which I've got my fingers cross will bring more people into the crypto currency scene. It is at least different and the devs are know.
BayAreaCoins: Only thing that is semi tough is the need for HUC to start out mining HUC. Which is a good thing too at the same time.
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu do you think we will continue to see this horrible trend of shit on shit?
BayAreaCoins: www.Huntercoin.info that is the block chain. 90% of the coins are distributed via the "game" inside the wallet. To keep the network secure 5% Sha-256 and 5% Scrypt (dual merge mining.)
mircea_popescu: why would you suspect humans are playing the game inside the wallet ?
BayAreaCoins: I'm more interested in the mining power behind it and the networks on going security. Total supply : * 2734040 HUC Hashrate : * sha256 : 2 818.74TH/s * scrypt : 13.30GH/s
BayAreaCoins: It has a long way to go though and some problems to be address
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1020 @ 0.00245009 = 2.4991 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i don't understand how dual sha-scrypt improves security.
mircea_popescu: in pricniple it should lower it to the security of the lowest of the two
BayAreaCoins: I'm not 100% sure, but I'm going to go a head and pass that question along as well because I'd be interest in the response. Shits n giggles ya know
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.181 = 1.991 BTC [-]
BayAreaCoins: I've seen their web base browser play that will allow people to instantly start "mining" though game play. Right now to sync the wallet is... well.. fucking huge to say it nicely. Probably has the largest bloat of any coin their is.
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu so still not big on the Off Shore Paper Wallet idea either eh?!
BayAreaCoins: Basically exactly what it sounds like. Off shore paper wallets with a network of trusted hedge fund attorneys around the world that are willing to hold paper wallets for clients within countries that have good privacy laws. Therefore giving the world the ability to chose which country they store their coins in safely.
BayAreaCoins: Maybe there is something already like that that I am unaware of as well though
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BayAreaCoins: LOL ooo dogecoin bahaha Thank good ole Klye and dooglus for that one :D I gave away so many millions of DOGE in JD chat.
BayAreaCoins: Got 140BTC out of 100 million of them though about
mircea_popescu: "I am a 23 yr M, diagnosed Bi-Polar:NoS with a history of Mixed States. Or, in other words, I faily to cope with my body's confusion on being manic and depressed at the same time, causing an abundance of frustration that turns to almost uncontrollable anger. I currently live with my fiancee, we are to be married this year, at the end of September, I'm on permanent disability for a variety of mental incapacitates."
mircea_popescu: this has got to be the bottom of the bottomless pit of gold digging
BayAreaCoins: But let me jump back to that off shore paper wallet thing really quick if you don't mind.
BayAreaCoins: I think a number of people in my country (America) are very very interested about how to bank "off shore", but they don't have the proper contacts. I believe if this was set up it would give people the ability to go off shore within a hour of deciding they wanted to (by using btc, also the extra $ flowing in isn't going to kill any of us either)
mircea_popescu: you seem to think "people" is a thing. "people" is not a thing, but at least two : the people who don't matter, and the people who, if they feel like it, fly over here, open a bank box and bang a coupla hotties the same night
mircea_popescu: now why would a lawyer want to be involved with group A, and why would group B want to share with a lawyer ?
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu I've already contacted a few firms and they of course want to be involved for the same reason as any other law firms wants to be involved with anything.. Money. I think that group B would want to privately be involved with group A because it is better than having some FEDs come grab your lap top while you are reading in the Sci-Fi section
BayAreaCoins: I totally agree about the two people thing. Group a = Myself and group B = potential customers?
mircea_popescu: you know, dear #bitcoin-assets, my short walk around the other freenode chans has really made me appreciate how much this chan rocks.
BayAreaCoins: I would make the argument that there is a C. This would be middle class people who have a bank balance >250,000 (which is what FDIC insurance here in this country) but less than $1,500,000. I think that it would be more pointed towards them because I think people between those #'s are still a bit timid.
mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins people who have 1/4mn can afford to fly wherever the fuck they please.
mircea_popescu: and no, the distinction is lower than that. something like 90% of us people own 1k or less in net assets.
BayAreaCoins: Obviously there is a decent demand for offshore banking, but I don't know a single one that I can set up within 10minutes from the comfort of my house and have it funded as well. Sure you can afford the flight, but you'll get laughed out of the bank.
BayAreaCoins: I think a lot of them are happy with being poor... which is disgusting.
BayAreaCoins: However I can assure you there are a number of us who aren't :) Don't get too down on good ole 'Murica ;)
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BayAreaCoins: hmmm da fux... they close down shop I guess? I saw their little video leak.. I had a good chuck over that. Jackson is absolutely horrible to work with.... I like Billy a fuck of a lot more.
BayAreaCoins: Billy coded DOGE and Jackson was the marketing fuckhead
BayAreaCoins: I did a lot of talking to billy prior to Doge-dice launch
mircea_popescu: anyway, those of you who aren't aren't well advised to share where you hide your remaining wealth with anyone
BayAreaCoins: Well I suppose that is why I stumbled though here again to pick your head a bit. If you knew someone was coming to get you right now and they were going to tear your house down brick by brick searching it... where would you put your coins? (feel free to tell me to fuck off)
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mircea_popescu: "After "darkman" that find my mistake and get used of it made return of some DRK, exchange had about 250K DRK in wallet with discrepancy of about 50K DRK. Then I reversed DRK/BTC transactions made with him. After that I made another big mistake: I did not disabled withdrawals for users with negative balances."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 921 @ 0.00251488 = 2.3162 BTC [-] {6}
BayAreaCoins: Right of course. I sell fire arms for bitcoin too on BTCtalk, but I only ship to America atm which probably isn't much help for you :)
BayAreaCoins: So you would rely 100% on your ability to shoot. I would think if I was put in that situation I would want to have a place to drop them off in case I got hit during the fire fight... that way I could leave the coins to my family or what not (like setting up a Trust)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 224 @ 0.00248999 = 0.5578 BTC [-]
BayAreaCoins: Well unless you are fucking bullet proof you might have to blast their ass if they come in your house! :P Never mind, but good points. Thanks man
mircea_popescu: you're acting as if security is some sort of novel thing. it's not. security is actually older than computers,
mircea_popescu: "[14-06-23 14:07:53] C-CEX: There is no Your, or my coins. I explained situation. That happens. I did not take any customer's coin."
BayAreaCoins: haha that's the last time you'll have to do that man :) Thanks :P you got a bitcoin address for donations :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 295 @ 0.00265863 = 0.7843 BTC [+] {6}
BayAreaCoins: I had a venture last year that made like $200,000 a nickle at a time rofl
mircea_popescu: speaking of bitcents, kinda amazing no further camwhores came forward.
BayAreaCoins: haha is that a reference to the nickle thing too ;)
BayAreaCoins: Which camwhores do you speak of or all of them in general accepting BTC for donations?
BayAreaCoins: I was involved with them since 2010... my profile structure is actually one of the most copied there is on MyFreeCams now
mircea_popescu: so then help spread the news ? im giving away .1 per head.
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BayAreaCoins: I believe she takes BTC and there are a few others too
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu what did you do prior to CryptoCurrencies? I assume you were successful prior?
BayAreaCoins: Feel free to tell me to get fucked, I was just wondering
mircea_popescu: prior to that i ran romania's most read blog, a local digg like service (reddit wasn't really all that big yet).
BayAreaCoins: What was your main bag that got you to that point of first retirement? I'm not trying to Q and A your ass of course
benkay: <BayAreaCoins> I like the mining structure and having potential to "create" jobs // oh god what is going on here
BayAreaCoins: Who wants to make $10 a hour anyways...*rolls eyes ungratefully* :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00240128 = 2.4013 BTC [-]
benkay: <BayAreaCoins> haha that's the last time you'll have to do that man :) Thanks :P you got a bitcoin address for donations :P // 'course, you'll have to get rated, too.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform guy's nick was paraipan. he had cancer. no link afaik.
mircea_popescu: so, half liter screwdriver, made out of right-now pressed oj and 12 yo cognac ? well, about $4 for the oranges, about $3 for the b randy.
nam-shub_: probably the worst time to ask, but what's a two bedroom apartment cost there mp?
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BayAreaCoins: Thank you kindly, I'm getting it worked out. Want a bitcent ;) lol
BayAreaCoins: and lol @ slavecoin too, I really hope it doesn't turn into that.
BayAreaCoins: I was talking about that human mine able one. Hopefully it doesn't turn into Child Slavery Sweatshop coin :) I'm still waiting for Klu Klux Koin because I know it will get in a lot of peoples feelings :D
benkay: <BayAreaCoins> I was talking about that human mine able one. Hopefully it doesn't turn into Child Slavery Sweatshop coin // how would it not?
BayAreaCoins: Sadly you are going to have child labor in everything... all the way from making shoes to now mining. I don't think it can be avoided, but I think the game is swinging more toward bots... which obviously doesn't matter bot or not if it is a 5 year old running it.
BayAreaCoins: Not that I've seen any confirmed cases of that, but it is a thought.
BayAreaCoins: I believe a lack of laws will protect potential customers.
benkay: i'm just having the tiniest bit of trouble stitching this into something coherent.
BayAreaCoins: Well first off it will be a bucket of water and a pillow case :)
BayAreaCoins: I believe it would need to be set up to were the client can instantly send the coins from anywhere in the world, but actually has to pick them up in person or have someone who is part of the "trust" pick them up. (in case the primary account holder dies ect.)
BayAreaCoins: That has to be the clients choice, but either way the coins are safe at the end of the day.
BayAreaCoins: I have to be frank with you... this is more for people who are looking to get hit by some government entity such as PDR. I do keep my paper wallets in banks between California and Arkansas. However, I'm lucky enough to not have to have that worry/fear of my government because I don't involve myself with a number of business that one can choose to be involved in around BTC
BayAreaCoins: Divorces, blah blah blah you know the shit that happens in life
dub: theres the small issue of there being no market at all for such a service
dub: anyone who is willing to die and sacrifice family to protect coin will be doing so without help
dub: if you actually had a use for this level of protection you could trviially roll your own, would not trust anyone else to do so anyway, and be one of 7 people alive
BayAreaCoins: dub That was a extreme event that was brought up by asciilifeform. I would venture to say that there is a market for people who are looking for privacy and the ability to store value where they want in the world.
BayAreaCoins: Correct but the majority of people in the world have 0 fucking clue wtf the blockchain is and if they do they are scared of losing their shit. Look at coinbase building their "safe" wtf is the point of that! ;)
BayAreaCoins: asciilifeform lets say you are in SF and you're reading a book in the Sci-Fi section... lol haha :P no but really.
mircea_popescu: <BayAreaCoins> I was talking about that human mine able one. Hopefully it doesn't turn into Child Slavery Sweatshop coin << srsly, "hopefully" is all you got ?
mike_c: speaking of sitting on stakes, how you enjoying your stake BayAreaCoins? :)
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu it is decentralized. Dunno what else I could have in regards to combating that.
mircea_popescu: nam-shub_ 50 to 100k usd, in ba. quite overpriced yet, they're sitll hoping.
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BayAreaCoins: mike_c Which stake are you talking about though, I generally have a number of them poking me :P
mike_c: i meant the bitcoin-assets stake currently being applied.
mike_c: it can be helpful, but it is sharp.
mircea_popescu: "However, I'm lucky enough to not have to have that worry/fear of my government because I don't involve myself with a number of business that one can choose to be involved in around BTC"
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu I mean I ship my guns using FFL's and require permits to transfer snails across state lines :)
BayAreaCoins: mike_c I grew up on Battle.net (Blizzard Entertainment games) and I've always hung around successful people... so I don't mind getting my balls busted. It is good for me
BayAreaCoins: is what it is. I know where not to get clients for the offshore idea :P learned something haha
mircea_popescu: the process whereby you come up with "ideas" and then look for applications is fundamentally broken
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mircea_popescu: not distinguishable from the process where dork figures out how his dream gf should look and then proceeds to try and find her.
dub: he's invented mybitcoin
mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins if you take the time to read this chan, which you should in any case, you'll discover all the respected/successful projects have the same thing in common, as all the mocked/despised "entrepreneurs" in their own characterisation have something else in common.
mircea_popescu: the former all started as in "you guise desperately need and ask for this, here it is"
mircea_popescu: the latter all started as in "here's my bright idea i came up with"
mircea_popescu: the most recent examples of this are of course mthreat's search and ninjashogun's whatever the fuck that was,
mircea_popescu: dub: if you actually had a use for this level of protection you could trviially roll your own, would not trust anyone else to do so anyway, and be one of 7 people alive << your summary is approved. when do you quit your dayjob to do ba logs summary full time ?
dub: i dont have a day job
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mircea_popescu: "Is there any other coin that has so many talented individual developers backing up the network?
mircea_popescu: Is there any website even remotely close to chaeplin's detailed network analysis, even for Bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: Is there any community out there, that despite the price crashes and road-bumps, stick together in such a strong manner, getting stronger by the day?"
mircea_popescu: in case you didn't know this... apparently darkcoin is a big deal. o.O
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benkay: a new language for your new coin
benkay: had a great interaction with a human today at a bbq: "what do you think of all of the other coins?" "you mean the forks of the bitcoin reference implementation with various knobs diddled?" "are they--" "yes."
danielpbarron accepts bitcents 151enbTugrchY8YB8adH3rRjAHez9VFAvd
mircea_popescu: so let me get this straight, this coin produces about 3/4 of the bitcoins of a day, and they're supposedly worth 1 bitcent each ?
BayAreaCoins: danielpbarron 0fc3075cbfb1e8cb9f1f8b114086291a79ca543a8dd2485ca11afc3ad0d395aa
mircea_popescu: ok, x11 is fucking dumb, for the record. jesus it's scary what happens when engineers just start doing shit without any supervision.
mike_c: just for the record, sometimes the supervison sucks.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron is this the first successful charge-for-up case ?
BayAreaCoins: lol happy to be the first :P... it's what I do ;)
BayAreaCoins: What do you guys what to see next for bitcoin that doesn't exist right now or is it perfect because you've made everything you want that you can imagine for it atm?
decimation: Mr. Coins if you are convinced there is a "middle class" of bitcoin users in the us, why not start an exchange for them?
mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins you're new, so nobody really knows what you';d be good at.
mircea_popescu: that's kinda why you're stuck reading the logs for a while.
benkay: or is it perfect because you've made everything you want that you can imagine for it atm? // this sounds like the guy who asks "so do all of your friends use linux, then?" when told one occasionally counsels friends on not being retarded with crypto
mircea_popescu: benkay i bet you 64.58.198.181 answers on all teh windows ports.
benkay: webchat forwards user IP?
mircea_popescu: this is the internet. it does whatever you want it to.
benkay: BayAreaCoins: you're going to have a hard time figuring out what'd benefit the ecosystem when you don't even have big boy pants on.
BayAreaCoins: No breaks please. Bust my balls with full force. It is all good. mircea_popescu. Decimation I think there are a number of places that middle class americans already exchange BTC. I'm also not 100% convinced that is why I'm interested in what you guys have to say.
benkay: mircea_popescu: of course it *can*. *does*, though.
BayAreaCoins: benkay excuse me for getting stoned. Gotta give me a min.. I go to bed and wake up everyday with my big boy spider man underware
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mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins start with something easy, like getting in the wot.
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu ya I'll get on that this week. I have a Thompson 1927-A1 coming in next week I can probably get listed and sold ASAP.
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu Ok, I'll read into it and get it taken care of.
assbot: Americans Have Relatively Poor Net Wealth - NASDAQ.com
cazalla: :In Australia, over 65% of all adults have a net worth exceeding $100,000"
cazalla: we also have inflated property prices out the ass
assbot: Median Sales Price of Existing Homes - FRED - St. Louis Fed
mircea_popescu: this thing claims aussies are 50% richer than austrians
kyuupichan: Just finished paying for my whole Maldives trip with BTC. Sorry to keep the downward price pressure on.
decimation: anyone who has ever been near the DACH zone knows that germans are rich as fuck
mircea_popescu: decimation roughly in the sense darkcoin is worth 4 dollars per.
decimation: right, so the median adult can barely afford half a median house
decimation: the median us adult is therefore a debt slave
mircea_popescu: if you adjust those numbers for real-real estate prices, you get about 90% ish of us peeps under 1k (which is also your error, or at least mine)
mircea_popescu: also ludicrous : india 4k, china 20k ? heh. the chinese aren't 5x ahead of the indians just because the chinese govt inflated a real estate bubble which delhi doesn't quite match
decimation: so, you are saying that the nasdaq data is inflated because of "paper house value"
mircea_popescu: ok, look at sweeden : by that judgement, 231k mean 40k median, it is the MOST inequal country in all of europe.
decimation: doesn't sweden have a government minimum income
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assbot: American Household Credit Card Debt Statistics: 2014
decimation: so they cleary have less than $0 net worth
mircea_popescu: How to create a masternode? - Get a machine with a static ip
decimation: I suspect the "wealthy" half has most of their assets locked away in retirement plans, and most of those plans don't allow you to "invest" as you choose
mircea_popescu: decimation 50% are in cc hell. of the remainder, 30% are in middle class hell (they have some money, locked away in iras, college funds, ss payments etc - all of which is as good as gone but nobody's telling them).
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mircea_popescu: of the remainder 20%, about 10% are homeless, in prison or in mental institutions
decimation: or easily could be ex-pats, if the mood struck
mircea_popescu: jesus this darkcoin thing is more stupid than i had originally thought.
benkay: !s from: benkay darkcoin
benkay: yeah i now recall thinking to myself "myup. stop wasting time, kid."
decimation: when you boil that down, the american "middle class" is really at most maybe 10% of the population, so maybe ~20 million adults
mircea_popescu: i was like "why do i never receive altcoin summaries&updates ???" "because they are all exceedingly stupid" "no wai." "eta 2 hours"
decimation: re: german spies << either the germans are really good or the CIA sucks at spying, apparently
mircea_popescu: germany is maybe in the top 10. russia is of course in the top 5, way up there with romania and israel.
decimation: what does the fact that the US auctioned off the DPR horde of btc rather than put it in the fed reveal about usg?
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decimation: are you saying the auction never took place?
decimation: I guess they have only claimed to have sold 30k of the 144k
benkay: well i've worked through these provisioners from top to bottom, and now it's time to test them all against some freshness
benkay: vagrant destroy && vagrant up
benkay: ./provision 127.0.0.1 2222
benkay: "okay girls, let's go!"
decimation: eh, that supposes that the usg is secretly competent, which you just implied was not the case above
decimation: some part of the usg has to be able to operate in secrecy effectively to perform this laudering plan right?
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19999326 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.2 = 1.4 BTC [+]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00268999 = 0.538 BTC [-]
assbot: Game 17 - Death 5000 Life 5000 Year 2 - War of Life
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 63 @ 0.00911084 = 0.574 BTC [-] {2}
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas"
http://bitbet.us/bet/990/ Odds: 42(Y):58(N) by coin, 42(Y):58(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.24105324 BTC. Current weight: 93,892.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 500 @ 0.03079906 = 15.3995 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 500 @ 0.012 = 6 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
dub: fwiw having a link ot the previous game might be nice
dub: death beat life though right?
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
dub: try putting it on the gow page where one would go looking for it
mircea_popescu: it's like a large centrral panel with the current game and two smaller to the left, prev and next game
dub: yeah I see it on the front page but nobody would land there surely?
dub: anyway, to sound like a sore loser, its a stupid game
dub: by backing the winning team. clearly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 29 @ 0.03079906 = 0.8932 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it all hinged on having something like bitbet's "omgwtfbbq i bet on winning side and lost!"
punkman: dub, it's not about backing the winning team, you just have to buy cheaper than all the other mooks
punkman: ;;later tell mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame
dub: more like ketamine, chances are it will put you to sleep and only people with personality issues go back for more
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 562 @ 0.0026855 = 1.5093 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.0176 = 0.528 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 80 @ 0.01832875 = 1.4663 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 54 @ 0.01879254 = 1.0148 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 48 @ 0.01264998 = 0.6072 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.03079906 = 1.54 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 50 @ 0.013 = 0.65 BTC [+]
atcbot: [ATC Mined] Current: 20193280 Total ATC (to be mined): 268435456 % Mined of Total: 7.52
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 547975.01 in 879 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -30.21
cazalla: crying baby, fuck kill me now
gribble: Current Blocks: 310551 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1928 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 52 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19843861618.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.46411
kyuupichan: 3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation
kyuupichan: He'd budgeted +10% difficulty each period for rest of 2014; seems about right to me
kyuupichan: Sell my BTC for holiday; BTC jumps 1.5%
kyuupichan: I sense increasing govt apprehension abt BTC
kyuupichan: cazalla: Maldives; mentioned it a while ago. Not exactly cheap, as I discovered.
kyuupichan: Well, it's my 14-years late honeymoon.
cazalla: i wanna piss off to angeles
cazalla: not sure wife would be here when i get back though :P
kyuupichan: I reckon I must be high on the Expedia list of bitcoin dudes using their service more than expected
kyuupichan: Though initial booking + cancellation was quite a nightmare
cazalla: meh i'd still use credit card if i was doing that
kyuupichan: cazalla: Sure. Preference depends on circumstances. I'm overweight BTC; happy to drop a few now and then.
cazalla: just seems a hassle, as you described
cazalla: so what made cancellation a nightmare? they take btc but don't want to pay it back? fiat only refund?
kyuupichan: Well they'd only just started taking BTC. Most of their sales reps had (still have) no clue. When asking about the refund, they said it'll be on credit card despite my having said half a dozen times I'd not used CC and paid with bitcoin. Clearly clueless.
kyuupichan: Coordinating them and their payment processor (coinbase) was a PITA, particularly as I don't live in US so it was international phone calls. I'm not a fan of coinbase but to be honest they seemed to fix it, and they were the most helpful.
kyuupichan: All I wanted to do was change a date. booking.com is far superior to expedia.com for that; you, uh, just change the date.
cazalla: going through all the permutations though, sounds like this was obvious and prob better to use cc
kyuupichan: Sure, but I'm underweight fiat; would rather not spend it as not much left :)
BigBitz: tried Destinia.com kyuupichan?
kyuupichan: BigBitz: No never heard of it. I used btctrip.com for flights for 2nd time without issue (bad experience with cheapair, though that seems unusual) and expedia for hotels.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.5502 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August"
http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.06307729 BTC. Current weight: 97,814.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1500 @ 0.0046455 = 6.9683 BTC [+] {18}
artifexd: "ability to perform on each core to 25 operations in a single clock cycle, which provides high performance at moderate clock frequency" <- wow
jurov: dunno if this isn't itanium-like pipe dream
jurov: will be interesting to see if they can pull both this *and* decent x86 emulation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 210 @ 0.00266355 = 0.5593 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 390 @ 0.00265205 = 1.0343 BTC [-] {4}
artifexd: gribble lost me so I had to reauth
hanbot: ;;later tell mike_c hey "There is an infinitesimal chance none of the numbers will be < 1,000,000. In this case the last group (bits 12 - 31) are used to find the location as follows:" would it not be better to just re-hash the hash and try again? and if it fails again, hash it again. infinitesimal is infinitesimal, but why even bother.
☟︎ hanbot: artifexd, actually, i've been trying to write.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 19.59579552 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1704 satoshi per share
artifexd: Makin' stuff. Then makin' it faster.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69116640 BTC to 11`660 shares, 14504 satoshi per share
hanbot: so what do you do with the wc?
artifexd: If you listen to the world cup on the internet, odds are that it is flowing through my software.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 51 @ 0.02987824 = 1.5238 BTC [-]
artifexd: One of my projects is a custom streaming audio server. High performance, customized streams for each client, transcodes one input to multiple output formats, blah, blah, blah.
artifexd: It isn't interesting to talk about, but advertisers love it and it is a lot of fun (and frustration) to work on.
artifexd: If that is a pipeline, wouldn't that be too long to be performant? I mean, one missed branch prediction and you have to flush the whole thing.
artifexd: Are you speculating that it is a pipeline measurement or are you certain?
artifexd: Aren't all processors pipelined now?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell punkman: mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame << actually, it'd be prolly good to have a YOU: summary on either side of GoW as long as the person is actually logged in. in case they bought multiple bids etc.
mircea_popescu: dub hm, what do you hate about it ? that there's not really any "you lose 100%" ?
mircea_popescu: kyuupichan: 3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation << but you know seattle/the us is not really the center of mining.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: not sure wife would be here when i get back though :P << lol what, she got a nice big black fellow all lined up ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02987824 = 2.9878 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "The Itanium approach...was supposed to be so terrific—until it turned out that the wished-for compilers were basically impossible to write."
mircea_popescu: logically, the compiler is in the best position to do this, because it can directly poll the bus.
mircea_popescu: well, it was different... not to mention "new and exciting"
mircea_popescu: well honestly, the wood airplane may well ahve becvome a big deal.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 100 @ 0.0121 = 1.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02987824 = 2.9878 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that too. but even should ms have had it ready on t+1minute, and if it worked splendidly (lolk, but bear with me)
mircea_popescu: the net result would have been foss+amd buldgeoning them into a fine paste.
mircea_popescu: so it's one of those things old geezers tell you about, as their life turning point, over a game of checkers in central park. no, it wasn't : even if the thing they woe about would have worked their way
mircea_popescu: there were upstream considerations preventing it from working anyway
mircea_popescu: classical example, "if only the nightcop hadn't turned around just then".
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 74 @ 0.0116404 = 0.8614 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: nam-shub +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
benkay: does anyone have a copy of john brooks Business Adventures?
benkay: someone's digitized it and trying to make a dime off the old man's corpse: www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/07/bill-gates-favorite-business-book.html
assbot: Intel Itanium Processors Update
gribble: Current Blocks: 310581 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1898 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 15 hours, 40 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18900118669.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.02038
assbot: F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha
hanbot: punkman looks pretty good imo, but yep, ruddy atm.
hanbot: i'm rooting for a red card tonight
mircea_popescu: this has got to be the most idiotic publisher strat i ever encountered. so about a month ago, i shot an email to a medium sized network, for an ad spot. i got a reply from an acct manager, which was a little late and very half assed. i just dropped the thing. he sent me a couple "follow-up" emails later that week, which resulted in them being blacklisted.
mircea_popescu: during the intervening month, they sent no less than 15 emails to my spam filter.
mircea_popescu: holy shit man, why not just be on the ball and cut the deal when you have the chance ? why half ass that and then spend a month trying ? what sort of idiot came up with this strat i wish to know.
hanbot: mircea_popescu sounds like a shrimp farmer
hanbot: the publisher. casts a wide net, no anticipation of catching actual fish, just interested in a big mass of little bits.
mircea_popescu: "why find a few good friends in this world, just pretend everything in it is an earthworm
hanbot: i'm sure it stinks, anyway.
hanbot: yeah. in the name of clutching at what they think they want, most people will put on some pretty ridiculous costumes.
mircea_popescu: BRINGERS OF DARKNESS are revitalizing audiences with their raw energy live show and undeniable chemistry of brotherhood. They transcend a world that is locked in genre and commercialism; though they know they can't do it alone, they are the seeds of a revolution. The band has pitched their newest CD to Sony executives[, played in front of the likes of Henry Rallins, and the lead singer has sang onstage with Freddie Mir
mircea_popescu: Members: Tim "Kinnie" kingsworth - guitarist born to rock, tim has written many of bringers of darkness's best songs including "my love for you is swimming through the rapids like a broken arow" (Tim only plays Bingleworth guitars. Onstage, he plays a Bingleworth J-9000 7-string with a neo-chromium humbuckers. For recording, he uses a K-9001 with two single-coli pickups. He exclusively uses Krankle amplifiers and Czech
punkman: mircea_popescu: turns out I fucked up some math there, expected gain on pending bets is around 40%
mircea_popescu: that "pending gain" is a best case sort of number no ?
punkman: if favored side wins, yeah
punkman: if I pick the favored side by total btc in the pot, then pending gain goes to -1.43 BTC
punkman: (todo: make stats exportable)
mircea_popescu: so basically it could either lose or win, maybe a lot, probably a little.
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punkman: mircea_popescu: yea we'll see how that goes, though hanbot's allocation of BTC is slightly better than global bitbet allocation so far.
mircea_popescu: a slighly scarce resource, and there are the informants,
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punkman: asciilifeform: seems like most of that was spent in December 2013
mircea_popescu: or, alternatively, buenos aires. which is why i moved here, to troll b-a
kyuupichan: mircea_popescu: In east Washington state they have insanely cheap electricity; there is a lot of mining going on there
assbot: Game 17 - Death 5082 Life 4918 Year 68 - War of Life
mircea_popescu: people use them to what, pretend like they're outside while pretending like they're on the computer ?
mircea_popescu: i'd rather do both of these well than mix them together into an unworkable porridge of shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly enough, tuta pl tute is how you say stupid woman in romanian
mircea_popescu: yes he is, he just doesn't want to admit to the romanian yoke :D
indiancandy1: can i ask something does the crystall ball thing actually work
indiancandy1: atleast the goverment gave the gypsies all there gold back aye
assbot: Crystal ball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: I just found this crazy game of life battle with Bitcoin : Bitcoin
indiancandy1: is romania in the mediternian sorry my geography is terible
punkman: you need to get a flux capacitor
gribble: Error: "flux" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "fluxcapacitor" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 black sea ctually, but quite close anyway
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is that the all-free-except-bios thing ?
mircea_popescu: i thought the bios was still proprietary, lulziuly undermining the whole thing
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 175 @ 0.0168 = 2.94 BTC [+]
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kakobrekla: as long as i can hammer nails with it.
kakobrekla: anyway, you CAN indeed make it alu and not look like fagbook
indiancandy1: so i showed my producer a video of me dancing at work yesterday and she said that there is spirits in the vide
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: you back in Argentina? what's the buzz on the street like?
mircea_popescu: you can distinctly hear the game out the window, to the degree of fouls, saves, etc.
mircea_popescu: whole street is packed. (well the fact that i live within a block of the equivalent of say the washington monument doesn't help)
mircea_popescu: they shot some pretty respectable cherry bombs in the few hours runup
mircea_popescu: (during which the street was packed with people waiting for the game to start)
indiancandy1: and watch at 36 seconds a light shoots across the room
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 202 @ 0.0132 = 2.6664 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: these people blew their fucking top off because a german got a yellow card ?
fluffypony: indiancandy1: watching the soccer, so no
mircea_popescu: fluffypony so fiverr has this glitch, whereby sometimes it gets paid for an order (via coinbase) but then... just ignores it. you ever had something like that happen ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: no not yet - I pay it and its reflected immediately every time I use it
fluffypony: I wonder if it's not trying to update via some ajax call and you've disabled js so it doesn't update?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 42 @ 0.02890175 = 1.2139 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 67 @ 0.01607462 = 1.077 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.02890175 = 0.8671 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kinda what i wanted to check, where to start the debug
fluffypony: if you refresh the page does it show up as paid?
mircea_popescu: (actually, more like i won't bother, it's not worth the occasional 5 bux to me.
fluffypony: it's the fluffypony method of spelling wack
mircea_popescu: fluffypony apparently the problem only appears when using multipayment tx.
mircea_popescu: you ever did that ? owe for say a dozen jobs, pay out in 1 tx ?
fluffypony: no I haven't - only ever done 1 at a time
mircea_popescu: well, if anyone cares, it is the case coinbase may have a hole in how it handles multipayment txn then.
mircea_popescu: specifically, n-1 pages update and ty for the payment. but the nth... nope
fluffypony: the Germans are all over the Argentinian goal
cazalla: mircea_popescu: there's no black people in australia, also little crime
mircea_popescu: "Jeff Garzik @jgarzik · 5h Free business idea: Water heaters that mine #bitcoin. Decentralize mining and usefully shed excess heat, rather than waste it."
kakobrekla: wait until they figure out you can do it on fpga.
kakobrekla: anyway it doesnt work. they dont roi even if you run them 24/7 and heaters you dont.
gribble: Time since last block: 2 minutes and 54 seconds
fluffypony: wow bets365 add on Sky Sport gives you live betting odds (well 30 seconds old)
kakobrekla: the biggest problem with that idea is that we prolly wont be computing on silicone then
kakobrekla: you can hardly heat up anything with wetware for example
mircea_popescu: i think we will, yes. silicone will get pushed to the end by say 2040, where you CAN get faster processors but it's not economically worth it.
mircea_popescu: and then, 20-50-100 years spent trying to make wetware work.
mircea_popescu: and so in 2050ish, it'll make prefect sense to put in a water heater cum btc miner.
mircea_popescu: principaly because that'll be strictly the only type of water heater available
punkman: qc would make for a good longbet
cazalla: mircea_popescu: i couldn't think of a witty retort at 6am so the autistic one will have to do :P
kakobrekla: ok so there might be a small window of stability which would allow for that idea to work, i give you that.
kakobrekla: id still bet this wont happen on a mass scale.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what do you think you'll heat yourself with in 2050 ? dead jews ?
kakobrekla: ideally id have something like personal Toshiba 4S
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 40 @ 0.01385 = 0.554 BTC [+]
assbot: Putin, Kirchner seek 'multipolarity' in Argentina visit - Yahoo News
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18529443 = 0.9265 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: tired them the fuck out, so they could get that shot at the end
mircea_popescu: i think they didn't really think they'll make it to the finals anyway
punkman: consolation prize: "at least we weren't humiliated like those Brazilians"
gribble: moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 3 hours, 7 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <moiety> kk really away for reals this time, i'll check that when im out
cazalla: 50% of 4chan is JIDF and the other half are people trolling each other
mthreat: the german player's name was götse. i can't beleive we are't seeing goatse memes
cazalla: wow, i thought you were trolling that messi won golden ball
jurov: <mircea_popescu> ... they sent no less than 15 emails to my spam filter.<< was it coindesk? they were target of phishing and it looked exactly like this.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.02890175 = 0.8671 BTC [-]
cazalla: pol already attacked tumblr the other week, many were triggered, a few suicides too
cazalla: really more trolling white knights and marxists
assbot: Online Hate Prevention Institute » 4Chan’s /pol/ and the Trouble with Dean
cazalla: i have trolls remorse for poor ben garrison
mircea_popescu: wait, the humourless fuck that made a cartoon in which some guy holding a guy fawkes mask is told by the mask, prophetically!11 "you are not as anon as you tihnk" complains that he doesn't understand why people deface his crap ?!
mircea_popescu: i saw that thing and my first thought was to deface it. because it's so fucking square, that's why.
mircea_popescu: same thing that makes you want to punch a mongoloid kid makes you want to deface this guy's cartoon
assbot: Human verification - 4plebs archive
cazalla: there's a few hilarious versions around, the shit they did to ben garrison is probably the lulziest shit i've ever seen online
cazalla: poor bastard actually has a disclaimer on his website that no, he isn't the author of the anti semetic versions
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02890175 = 2.8902 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "Those like Dean need to be held accountable and 4chan and /pol/ in particular, need to look after their own shop. An online space with a little more freedom is a good thing, but it’s up to the community itself to warn people like Dean off when they go too far. "