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asciilifeform: !!down KernelKhaos
BingoBoingo: 't it be nice dream to loudly piss over the USG.FCC from down south
asciilifeform: rrright because when asciilifeform's fab house sent back proto-FG repeatedly with poor reflow and dud analogue board, asciilifeform complains 'from certain mental structure' and not because imbeciles all the way down like turtles on elephants.
asciilifeform: no. if we're doing 'can stalin make planes faster than hitler can shoot'em down, using only own minerals' scaling down to garage, you do NOT get to do the '3d printer' enthusiast thing and conveniently exclude copper coils in motors etc.
mircea_popescu: the trashing the orclands get at our hands every fucking time we deign to rape them is not enough model of how this'd go ? joe from two states down will just send you some free molybdenum because fuck those orcs, and besides, you gave him a painting last year
asciilifeform: joe from two states down can't agree on the price. and we both get encircled and hang. or he's using his moly to make kitchen knives to sell to orcs , it's +ev for him, he thinks. or, other possible variants.
mircea_popescu: joe from two states down has.
asciilifeform: ( stalin had the 'purge excess meat' thing down to fine art, but he never approached 20% much less 90 )
mircea_popescu: they never fucking sat down to speak the truth.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "up" and "down" may not be as firmly manifest as you personally imagine. postmodernism is bizarro world, up is down, they say hello when they leave...
mod6: ave1: Looks like you maybe took your attempt at the Pizarro landing page down?
ben_vulpes: could be all the way down in the ruby
mircea_popescu: check it out lol, 10k reported sales brought it down 10%. such orcland prices.
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817173 << well in all honesty, I'm not sure I understand what wot ratings mean, since I don't see where negative ratings fit in to http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/#selection-289.0-297.96 . I rated you -1 because I detect a self-image not fitting a young guy making 35K a year for 60 hrs/week, which ultimately filters down to your ability to think rationally. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "What would i do then ?!" fuck me, i dunno, break down and cry, really ?!
trinque: china shut down the exchanges, not the mines
asciilifeform: this applies to all 3 points in the triangle. i do not know whether the cc thieves and dope peddlers understand that without usg's maintenance of the upside-down world, they would work just as hard and for just as little, as used tyre sellers and train station pickpockets. ( i suspect that the smarter ones -- do ; but nfi )
mircea_popescu: and ~this~, this and only this, is why i said and i've been saying that only burning the whole thing down is a feasible approach. because of this.
mircea_popescu: s for it back. if you sent it straight to your dc's account, well, they may either get their bank account closed down, or spend however long doing paperwork, neither of which is something they're ready for, so they'll conceivably panic.)
mircea_popescu: it's two pronged. on one hand, http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=vhs+america ; on the other hand http://trilema.com/2011/un-rasad-uscat/ ; https://www.pri.org/stories/2011-05-19/how-rock-and-roll-brought-soviet-union-down ; https://blogs.lt.vt.edu/aalrussia2014/2014/12/07/behind-the-iron-curtain-western-music-and-the-soviet-collapse/ and piles of similar wank. they misrepresent and misunderstand everything involved, of course,
mod6: or, bump it down in the middle maybe: 5% @ 10, 10% @ 25, 15% @ 40, 20% >= 50 (something like that)
ben_vulpes: stand by to slow down ☟︎
trinque: doing just fine. watching the rain come down.
Mocky: being a Habeeb has been hell, since 9/11. I quit flying cuz of the "special pat down" treatment. I guess TSA loves that name tho, lol
hanbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/04/panama-makes-me-ill/ << and then there's the sort of "bitcoin embassy" denizens i imagine abounding, whose ideas of security/tech whatever boil down to "we've got these here tshirts, herp"
mod6: Well... see, this is not really how it should be. Don't let ole mod6 talk ya down.
spyked: hm. so trinque, OTPs don't have any sort of expiration? the scenario I'm thinking of is that eventually my (for example) home ISP would do some stupid thing that would lead to the TCP connection going down. but that could happen in a week, a month or six from now, so I'd want that OTP to be valid whenever that happens.
lobbes: this is how I've been approaching Deutsch lernen von Kant; I've been going through word-by-word and physically writing down my own researched definitions of each word. Then I'll re-read trying to reconstruct with my new definitions in hand until I encounter something new, then repeat. Slow going (I can read a total of 3 sentences now without checking my notes) but it has been working for me so far, daran ist gar kein Zweifel >> http://btcbase.org
a111: Logged on 2017-08-11 18:37 mircea_popescu: this is how it manages the inapproximable "whisks" of meaning that latin-style then has so much trouble noting down.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 14:11 mircea_popescu: well, why not kick him while he's down. so, ben_vulpes , do you understand the meaning of "They know how to work those" in http://trilema.com/2013/attention-cunt/#selection-37.37-37.64 ?
ben_vulpes: !!down douchebag_junior
deedbot: douchebag_junior may not $down Mircea_PopeSkew.
douchebag_junior: !!down Mircea_PopeSkew
BingoBoingo: <mod6> Can I get your assurances that this won't come up again for a long time, at least a year or ever? We're just dumping cash. And we're not going to be in business long at all. << You have my assurance. This discussion was started in Februay had been tabled without activity since then. Hence reviving it when we have a path to get to where we need to be, but before we get another infusion of iron down here.
ben_vulpes: expenses and would be willing to put down a half btc incentive if we hit that. i'm also considering that the apartment rental is going to be maybe 20% more expensive than the combined cowork and bunk, and propose moving some of the end-of-year incentive forward in time to pay for that.
BingoBoingo: I am saying the "<mod6> So that'd be ok with ya? 5000 now, 2500 september 1st?" is not objectionable. Breaking it down into even payments is objectionable.
mod6: As far as the 8000 now, this really cuts into our available cash flow. Aside from the plainly stated fact that we then also, aside from paying bills, need to figure out how to translate another ~1 BTC in to USD and then have someone wire/WU it down to you.
BingoBoingo: With the lessons learned on the way to my UY cedula, we can probably condense the next fellow's ordeal down to 3-ish weeks.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, let me tell you some things. a while ago you got these doods into a miserable situation they don't know how to extract themselves from, by ending up with 10x the warrants bingoboingo got. last i checked the dood actually moved down there.
mircea_popescu: burn the whole shitpile down omfg.
asciilifeform: jurov: what , exactly , happened ? the wire unwound ? police showed up and burned down house ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 16:25 phf: aight, i'm going to be out of commission until mid may. i have comments for eulora that i need to type up (i got to sit down with a printout out over this weekend), i'm not sure about the amount of work required for the grapher until i have time to sit down and read v.pl (i sort of have an idea of how to implement it as part of vtools, but i'm not sure if the slicing is adequate), until i do i don't have a clear idea of how long it's going to take. i m
mircea_popescu: and one step down, nsa doesn't even have to permit equity buys, can insist on being paid cash. i was permitting it because i thought it's desirable, but if you don't like it evidently won't happen.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 04:46 mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356068 << was this ever broken down ? so 800 per u, 100 per chip, and 2000 transport coming to (800*2+100*96 + 2000) = 13200 ?
ben_vulpes: i'd rather see the price estimate go down as i tighten numerical accuracy than up; i've no desire to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6q4n5TQnpA
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356068 << was this ever broken down ? so 800 per u, 100 per chip, and 2000 transport coming to (800*2+100*96 + 2000) = 13200 ? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: we're not shipping any more single servers down there until uy1 is gagging or l1 asks nicely
mircea_popescu: except the way it works is restaurant/bar/whartever you frequent is stuck hiring the fucktarded neets, who have massive turnover, and are potheads/convicts universally. just a matter of time before one swipes your card, and then go, explain that th4e charges were bogus at restaurant down the street you visit weekly.
mircea_popescu: the only impossible task is the undefined task. once we pinned it down in the "this and naught else" format, it's doable.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, mind writing it down somewhere head-tail: did this on that and result is this?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 13:58 mircea_popescu: well, why not kick him while he's down. so, ben_vulpes , do you understand the meaning of "They know how to work those" in http://trilema.com/2013/attention-cunt/#selection-37.37-37.64 ?
mod6: I'm just trying to figure out if Pizarro has enough cash to get 48 of these down there.
mod6: Just trying to see if we have enough money to get 48 RC's built and delivered down there.
mircea_popescu: well, why not kick him while he's down. so, ben_vulpes , do you understand the meaning of "They know how to work those" in http://trilema.com/2013/attention-cunt/#selection-37.37-37.64 ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (english) Moreover, every alteration that takes place in a human body - for example, a state of health or a state of sickness - can be brought down to a question of natural causes, as Aristotle has shown in his 7th book of Physics. And the greatest of these is the influence of the stars. But the devils cannot interfere with the stars. This is the opinion of Dionysius in his epistle to S. Polycarp. For this alone God can do. T
asciilifeform: lobbes: afaik even heroin users have concept of 'knock down the dose', where they abstain for a spell. pot smokers -- not ?
ben_vulpes: i crunched some numbers, and i think it's going to cost around 3 btc to put the production rockchip plant together and get it down south, all based on 4 2U's with 24 rockchippen each, transpo of ~2.5kusd and per-chassis fab costs of ~800usd. i think with the outrageous success of the rockchip pilot plant pizarro's in a *great* spot to refinance per mircea_popescu's suggestion, to provide for the production
mircea_popescu: that's your "experts" zx2c4, from matthew retardenfield all the way down the mongoloid chain.
mod6 finally sits down to eat log
hanbot: mircea_popescu, so while people thought they can bring down the berlin wall they tuned into mtv, and once it became obvious there's nothing there they tuned out?
ben_vulpes: grand network of corporations and wall street will ensure that americans are "stepped down gently" a la the photosynthesis process, with maximum $anything extracted over the long term
mircea_popescu: lobbes, somehow that cable reminded me of the http://trilema.com/2016/industria-argentina-or-my-life-among-the-tribal-savages/ ; at least yours don't burn down in hand.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 16:25 mircea_popescu: in strict, physical terms. i can peel a coupla bills off the roll way before anyone can a) take the card b) orient it to machine slit ; c) slide it through ; d) wait for data to run back and forth to visa servers (include here the pro-rated delay of "servers down" shenanigans) ; e) get me to "sign" like 1100 period barbarians the f) slip of paper it printed and spit out etc.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, anyway, yeah, the "wood"... i mean they have all these overgrown grasses which to ~them~ appear woody, but taking an axe to a palm is not so unlike taking down a movie set in anger.
mircea_popescu: in strict, physical terms. i can peel a coupla bills off the roll way before anyone can a) take the card b) orient it to machine slit ; c) slide it through ; d) wait for data to run back and forth to visa servers (include here the pro-rated delay of "servers down" shenanigans) ; e) get me to "sign" like 1100 period barbarians the f) slip of paper it printed and spit out etc. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: basically, exactly like you say, we have a personhood mechanism, it'll have to be used. can't sit down and "make a mechanical friend JUST FOR THIS ONE CASE"
mod6: they go cascading from left to right, looks ok but when you get down to 'jgabrielygalan' there is a funny looking wrap where 'key: 1' is left most justified.
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-08#1811127 << ben_vulpes: can you elaborate on what you envision here? for instance, I could build up and tear down keyring on every press, which seems only way to be stateless with gnupg. how does that sound? ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792908 << fwiw i have no plans to take the bot directory down ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, but your mapping is incorrect. soviets had a lot of pre-existing fat to burn down in 1920s lulzfest. usg arguably had same in the 70s, when they started with "rights for wife in divorce and woman in workplace" nonsense. it's been half a century, there's nothing left to eat in the great empire of yore.
ben_vulpes: and lo, isn't it interesting that as the barrier for lordship goes up and the bar for defrocking goes down, the pantsuit imitate to their detriment while the republic purges dross?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, did they ever sit down and write the "manual of use" or is their usage of "abuse" still just as spurious as it was when they started whining about it ?
mircea_popescu: like if you took all the canadians, allowed the smater 10% to leave, then plonked them all down in haiti.
mircea_popescu: you know for a fact that if people ~didn't~ buy cellphones, they'd be forced down their throats via "employer '''bought''' and here it is, wear it".
mircea_popescu: not like any one among them has anything to say, or anything to contribute, or even has understood anything -- or even SAT DOWN with anything in an attempt, however cursory, to understand.
trinque: worth saying also that use of quicklisp is anti-v. it's a wad of packages some dude compiled, he's not in our WoT, no signatures on packages (last I checked), and to top it off, it hauls down foreign code and executes for you as a single op.
mircea_popescu: entirely the source of the vague spasms misrepresented by pantsuit into "public support for the electoral process" and "representative legitimacy" -- dorks who literally imagine they earn their 4 years' living by putting down an x once.
ben_vulpes: fully-rented 4u of this would bring us to breakeven at $50/mo, but demands 100% occupancy, otoh that's only 25% of 16U rockchip plant occupancy. so, i don't see a really compelling case for bringing the price down much further.
asciilifeform: ( you still get the down side of 'N nodes hanging off a single mains supply' but avoid the hit of 'N nodes in single ip blok' )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:47 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: i dun object; pizarro needs a better foundation than a writhing pile of chinches. i'd like to get a flat down there; this can consolidate the housing and desk expenses and provide i expect much needed moral uplift.
mircea_popescu: maybe the idea comes from their (somewhat rare habit) of copulating lying down rather than standing.
zx2c4: the ones i have down are:
ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: i dun object; pizarro needs a better foundation than a writhing pile of chinches. i'd like to get a flat down there; this can consolidate the housing and desk expenses and provide i expect much needed moral uplift. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, how about this : you edit your current rss script, so that ~instead~ of what it does, it plunks its results down in a new table ; and someone (tm) writes you the py script to read that new table and put out usable rss for deedbot. how about that ?
asciilifeform: i sat down to write it yesterday and got mired in swamp.
diana_coman: !!down fromdeedbot
asciilifeform: aa but to nail down tooling that ~doesnt get compiled in~ ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mod6 long ago nailed'em down, most thoroughly, amply discussed in log
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, sure. they can borrow both until they get theirs down there
mircea_popescu: (basically, attempt to connect to every box routable, write down the ssh pubkey and the ssl pubkey it answers with)
mod6: ben_vulpes: please put ole mod6 down for an fg on my rockchip too.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is going down the avenue and suddenly thinks -- hey, i want some on the spot mahcining
asciilifeform: rright, but gotta nail down ahead of time, in writing,
ben_vulpes: pizarro report to go out tomorrow; chasing down one last invoice
mircea_popescu: "determination is orthogonal to correctness, elementarily" << fortunately, determination is not an elementary item, but can be further broken down and classified. there's the sort of determination resulting from narcissism, where it is simply fueled by the [perceived] cost of changing the other side, "what do you mean my model of sexuality and society is wrong, this'd mean i'd have to have a long talk with the woman in my hou
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 16:25 phf: ight have time to sit down with v.pl before mid may. i can also just remove the right hand side of vtools for now, since this new complexity is coming from an experimental v graph anyway. i've no idea though if people are using a sha512 vtools in preference of awk vdiff / gnu patch.
ben_vulpes: look i admire your determination but there's no leverage and no market anywhere to be seen; you could be patient, scraping down food credits and suffering now for what will be an entire IC two decades from now had ye the foresight to not waste your time picking rags
gabriel_laddel: trinque: No. That was conditional on someone sending me medical resources. Turns out you can IV cocaine into spine & it will knock out all feeling from there down if you want to be mentally present during such an operation (somewhere in http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/e1920/nightmareofcocaine.htm ).
asciilifeform at one time had a reasonably watertight hdd ( 'battened down' by hand for the application )
mircea_popescu: worn down -- iron boot. found luck.