mircea_popescu: <mike_c> oh its going << all up to gavin at this point.

mircea_popescu: no because disk space increases by gavin's law.

mircea_popescu: i suppose the part where satoshi pretty much left because he couldn't believe just how fucking idiotic gavin is doesn't really make the cut of what reddit likes to discuss huh.

mircea_popescu: Gavin Andresen: Um... I haven't had email from satoshi in a couple months actually. The last email I sent him I actually told him I was going to talk at the CIA. So it's possible , that.... that may have um had something to with his deciding"

mircea_popescu: "oh look, what mp said back in october when he was being nice about it is a lot easier to follow than what he's saying now, once the fuckwits in question ignored the polite approach. isn't it mp's fault that gavin is an idiot!"

mircea_popescu: "[EDIT] There is an explanation of the possible problem with increasing the block size in the comment section here Gavin Andresen Proposes Scalability Roadmap and Hardfork, which is much more informative that Mr Popsescu's own vindictive rambling."

mircea_popescu: is it obvious why this is retarded or do i have to make a part 3 of "why gavin followers are dumb" list ?

mircea_popescu: Everyone not on Gavin's side on this all act like low / zero fee transactions just disappear into the ether. They most certainly do not. If (when) the average block size exceeds 1MB these lower fee transactions will overrun the entire system. Servers running bitcoind will start swapping to disk instead of using memory. At that point the entire network would go down."

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/lets-address-even-more-of-the-more-common-pseudo-arguments-raised-by-the-very-stupid-people-that-like-the-gavin-scamcoin-proposal/

mircea_popescu: "Gavin is, by and large, a mentally retarded doofus displaying a shocking amount of Dunning-Kruger syndrome in his assorted dabblings in economics and other hard fields."

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919629.msg10118626#msg10118626 << fwiw, cooler heads seem to have caught on and are in danger of prevaling. which'll make this play out exactly as a mtgox 2.0 (i asked for tux' head on a platter in april, "community" protected him for a few months, i got head delivered february next. wonder if gavin makes it that long)_

mircea_popescu: Gavin educates, make his points and tries convince community without antagonizing anyone. Popescu is probably the biggest jerk in the community, and his flock are such a dickheads that I'd be happy to see them using separate chain just so they can circlejerk and pretend they are the kings of the crypto-word in their own sandbox. Anything they write is so repugnant, that it's just impossible to argue with them. It's fun

mircea_popescu: inasmuch as the old thing is bitcoin, and the new thing some shit gavin made.

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/lets-address-some-of-the-more-common-pseudo-arguments-raised-by-the-very-stupid-people-that-like-the-gavin-scamcoin-proposal/

mircea_popescu: gavin does NOT have the authority to create a hard fork.

mircea_popescu: and as to the question of "how was gavin turned", the answer is obvious : cultural immersion. he happens to be part of the problem, much like if you put ximenez in charge of the supreme court you'll get burnings at the stake out of the legal process irrespective what the laws say.

mircea_popescu: same deal here. so gavin is making something that

mircea_popescu: so what's next, if this somehow succeeds ? two years from now, liberia uses bitcoin as nat'l currency, suddenly the workers go on strike, ask for double salaries. govt asks gavin to fork btc to give them an extra one-off five million btc to pay the workers.

mircea_popescu: they recently announced "they will focus on btc core", ie, "we can't afford anything past gavin's salary". and not even that for all of 2015.

mircea_popescu: doubt they will. some pool ops might be clueless enough to try and hijack the network to please gavin/usg, but that's ok, they'll get shot later.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo am i thick or is the answer about as related to what it quotes as gavin's "covered" is related to economy ?

mircea_popescu: davout there exists something like that already, "gavin's orphan chain won't die before 50 block long"

mircea_popescu: this in case anyone wonders why i "have to" call gavin an idiot. same reason you have to beat the donkey. only way it groks.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nah, they don't have the time. gavin has to force it through rapidly, before blocks actually start regularly overflowing 1mn, because that's his only chance to get pools surrepetitiously mining v3 blocks while gavincoins not being massively doublespent.

mircea_popescu: palatial moment. when the derps in -dev discover that well... gavin isn't really into bitcoin.

mircea_popescu: meanwhile, gavin hasn't been on #bitcoin-dev in the past two weeks, and was mentioned maybe a coupla times in the interval.

mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rji9f/looking_before_the_scaling_up_leap_by_gavin/cnhdze7?context=3 << check it out, hashname perseveres.

mircea_popescu: i'd bet you but we can't use bitbet because it doesn't take gavin btc.

mircea_popescu: the block rewards keeps going down. how are they going to make money if there's no pressure on txn to pay ? is gavin going to give them it ?

mircea_popescu: not what i've been hearing from teh chinese folks on the topic, but w/e, gavin's more than welcome to persevere in his usg-is-the-world delusions.

mircea_popescu: i will dump all my bitcoin, on the gavin fork.

mircea_popescu: at best gavin will manage to crush the gavin-bitcoin to whatever it was in 2012 and that's that.

mircea_popescu: no, just, mircea's bitcoin in its gavin aspect is being sold. so miners of gavin chain will have to compete with that.

mircea_popescu: and, of course, much like in the case of the "ethereum short" nobody actually bought, here is me looking for counterparties willing to buy gavin-bitcoins on the understanding that the transaction will only be valid on the gavin fork, but not in actual bitcoin.

mircea_popescu: now if mod6 an' ben_vulpes + whoever else can contribute get snappy with the actual foudnation work, the beheading of gavin's pretense will come exactly in time for a smooth transition to a muchly superior alternative.

mircea_popescu: but anyway, gavin hasn't been making any sense for a long time now.

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: it's funny how Gavin is all "I want bitcoin to compete with Visa/Mastercard", when anyone in Payment Processing knows those systems are seriously nigga rigged as is. << nobody expects gavin to say something sensible anymore than they'd expect ronald mcdonald to.

mircea_popescu: Gavin Andresen, "chief scientist", received $209k of "reportable compensation" + $2,884 of "other compensation", for more than $212k. Apparently the foundation thinks it's better to pay one guy $212k for writing blog posts and giving talks and interviews than paying three guys $70k each to work on the software the whole pyramid scheme currency depends on.

mircea_popescu: this idea that "we'll gavin all over the blockchain technology and everyone will follow" is out of a holywood movie. not how reality works.

mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: what is the origin of this 'power rangers' nick? << hours after the fork gavin & hearn brought upon the network through their alleged ineptitude (which allegation i don't credit, it was deliberate)

mircea_popescu: anyway, let the record reflect that yes, there was a point in 2011 when gavin was sane.

mircea_popescu: "What would government involvement in Bitcoin look like? Well one of their first goals would be to let the project stagnate. The disappearance of the founder "Satoshi" and appointment of Gavin Andresen, someone who has publicly admitted he doesn't want much to change in Bitcoin allows us to see one big reason for stagnation." << from the solidcoin derpage.

mircea_popescu: decimation: asciilifeform: do you think gavin works 40 hours per week on the git repo? << do you suppose captive whore in thai illegal brothel works 40 hours per week ?

mircea_popescu: if there ever was proof positive that crime doesn't pay, gavin's income is it.

mircea_popescu: "Gavin Andresen's salary as the full time lead developer of the entire bitcoin protocol is $209k a year."

mircea_popescu: well, gavin wants to quit but he can't.

mircea_popescu: | 34 | Gavin Andresen | 0 | << not in forum trust list ; | 33 | OgNasty | 1 | << in forum default trust list.

mircea_popescu: like, gavin et all, should pay a daily fee to be allowed into the amusement park where they pretend like they matter