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mike_c: ooh, happy new year to me. 216 qntra shares.
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decimation: who would bet against the inflation machine?
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gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user rassah has been recorded.
decimation: I would like to put in a good word for KnC miner. I ordered a Neptune from them last year (paid in bitcoin), I later canceled the order, and they wired the fiat to my bank (my choice). It took them 6 months to pay, but they paid.
PeterL: jurov_: cazalla says I should talk to you about shares for Qntra?
PeterL: some exciting football today, anybody else watching it?
PeterL: I admit I was jumping up and down and shouting at my TV as the MSU Spartans pulled out a tight win
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thestringpuller: cazalla: "I helped run plenty of conferences. I do have an idea. The priority is to make sure you have a conference that runs well enough that people don't notice the problems, and that everyone who paid to attend it gets their money's worth. Who actually paid to make it happen is a bit lower on the priority." << LOL FUCKING L
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pete_dushenski: ;;later tell peterl am i going to have to do my own post scooping until i'm *completely* grey?
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cazalla: thestringpuller, top fucking kek eh but what can ya do, people love these events for some reason even if they are nothing more than an herbalife pitchfest
pete_dushenski: cazalla: he comes to australia, shits all over our costco monuments and leaves << hey now, i loved your costco!
pete_dushenski: re: conferences << this is an essential post-modern industry
pete_dushenski: every major city is either in the process of building a mega-opulent conferenceplex or has already done so in the last 5 years
cazalla: pete_dushenski, i can't say i've been despite one opening around the corner from here a year ago.. pay to enter? what sort of american scheme is that?
pete_dushenski: melbourne just finished one and sydney's is under construction
pete_dushenski: cazalla if you go on a busy saturday you can just point to someone else in line and say that you're "with them"
pete_dushenski: at least that's what i did last time i set foot in one
cazalla: and then i can get a special deal on 20kg of hfcs eh
pete_dushenski: the last time i was in a costco they didn't accept cash, visa, or mastercard, only amex and debit
cazalla: thestringpuller, let the man tour oz without need to visit qntra office / kids bedroom
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel stumpwm it is, although the nomenclature stems from ratpoison unless if i'm doing my archaeology correctly
thestringpuller: "We only accept Amex" << that's the complete inverse of what you normally hear
ben_vulpes: it's because amex rarely bounces, being a rich person charge card.
ben_vulpes: what's the restocking cost for 2 cosco-sized shopping carts?
pete_dushenski: right, you'd think low-margin operators like costco would do the bubble tea store style of cash/debit only
ben_vulpes: most american POS operators are debit/credit agnostic in my experience.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: did you ever actually close on any ru bonds?
pete_dushenski: eh their staffs are huge and everything is on the ground floor in big piles
thestringpuller: that's cause the payment processors only validate whether or not the account should go through or not
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes well... no, not yet. though it seems like an appropriate thing to add to the 2015 resolutions
thestringpuller: I also think the timeout on a credit card transaction wire is like 15-20 seconds
thestringpuller: it's funny how Gavin is all "I want bitcoin to compete with Visa/Mastercard", when anyone in Payment Processing knows those systems are seriously nigga rigged as is.
cazalla: pete_dushenski, i'd wager costco isn't doing too well here. aldi enjoys far more popularity as an alternative to the main 2 coles and woolworths
decimation: re: costco & amex << I suspect amex gives costco a deal (pays them) to force a large percentage of the upper-crust customer-base to have an amex card in their wallet
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: "nigga rigged" << til
pete_dushenski: cazalla speaking of woolworth's, canada used to have a department store by the same name. went bankrupt a couple decades ago
decimation: the original woolworths was a southern us store I believe
pete_dushenski: cazalla it was interesting to note where the same names popped up between canada and aus. everything from street names to stores to parks
cazalla: we don't have a degrassi afaik
decimation: same for south africa: "The chain was named after the United States chain F. W. Woolworth Company but, because of the contemporary trademark laws, the name was legally used without permission. No financial connection ever existed between the companies."
decimation: man one can't get away with that kind of thing anymore
decimation: imagine some bloke in new zealand starting a store called 'walmart'
decimation: bezzle lawyers would sue you out of of your socks
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pete_dushenski: decimation speaking of things you can't get away with anymore, i was watching a bit of the breakfast club today and... can you possibly imagine a school giving students 8-hour detentions on saturdays anymore??
decimation: the bitching and moaning would raise hell
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pete_dushenski: like seriously imagine: no phones, no computers, just desks, writing essays
decimation: my dad (who went to school in the 60's) told me that back then children were reguarlly spanked for misbehavior
decimation: he recalls that the us supreme court stopped all that around the late 60's
decimation: somehow that's not even a political issue anymore
pete_dushenski: and both his parents were teachers at the school too so that might've been easy treatment!
pete_dushenski: but parents who found out that their kids had been disciplined at school often disciplined the kid again at home
decimation: ugh it's true. read the logs about the german system ca. 1800's
decimation: nearly all the great science of the era came from people who were spanked as children
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decimation: yeah I'm real sure that lazing around and watching tv is CAUSED by spanking
pete_dushenski: not working eh? maybe time to switch to duckduckgo or something?
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gribble: Bitstamp BTCXAU ticker | Best bid: 0.251384, Best ask: 0.25196, Bid-ask spread: 0.00058, Last trade: 0.251376, 24 hour volume: 2712.51049237, 24 hour low: 0.249568, 24 hour high: 0.253896, 24 hour vwap: 0.251760177176
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gribble: xdotcommer was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 25 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 21 minutes, and 1 second ago: <xdotcommer> <- chem noob
ben_vulpes: "ballmer peak" is kind of misleading. it's more of a surfing phenomenon.
ben_vulpes: and to those following along with the "minimum viable bitcoind" saga at home, while createrawtransaction and signrawtransaction entered ~0.7, gettxoutsetinfo is not included.
ben_vulpes: it may be unfair to tar all work done since satoshi with the power rangers brush. gettxoutsetinfo + createrawtransaction + signrawtransaction are pretty close to a minimum viable bitcoind.
ben_vulpes: and gettxoutsetinfo by my (late, addled) research doesn't seem to appear before 0.8 something
ben_vulpes: even conformal's implementation doesn't do that.
ben_vulpes: pretty horribly named command, though: "gettxoutsetinfo".
ben_vulpes: nominally, returns interesting data about the unspent outputs pool. the output of which one should be able to grep through to find ones own unspent transactions.
ben_vulpes: i say "should", as verifying this will entail building and booting an 0.8 or later node.
ben_vulpes: i've not found a clever way to encourage "git" to poop "tags" between given commits to STDOUT.
ben_vulpes: anyways, with the unspent outputs pool and ones pk's secured elsewhere on disk, a determined and angry bitcoiner should be able to manage their own wallets with a minimum of fuss.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34400 @ 0.00061995 = 21.3263 BTC [-]
gribble: #21866 Fri Jan 2 03:00:52 2015 Kingdom BUY 1.0 video of OTC member for 10 min in a leotard telling a story though dance which moves me. @ 0.3 BTC (None)
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4000 @ 0.0005 = 2 BTC [+]
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thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: lol createrawtransaction is pretty thorough for setting up a transaction. i don't think it broadcasts though, just outputs a hash and string
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[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Billion dollar bet?"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1047/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 18.32065114 BTC. Current weight: 35,755.
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HeySteve: wishing you all the best for 2015
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jurov: qntra does not have extra section for its own monthly reports?
jurov: i'm interested in previous month, have to google it
jurov: thestringpuller you obv did not do that :)
jurov: otherwise you'd know it's near start of next month
jurov: will start doing any requests next day after tmrw, or when the shares come, whichever is later
thestringpuller imagines MP releasing shares inside his harem on some yacht somewhere.
jurov: iirc it was submarine,no?
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assbot: Quest for vision is a great blessing.
jurov: i have it too easy
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021461 B (Total: 469.31 B). Delta: 0.11 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000195 BTC [-]
gribble: Current Blocks: 337146 | Current Difficulty: 4.064095501657649E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 338687 | Next Difficulty In: 1541 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 5 hours, 27 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 45502189987.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.96142
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jurov: ^ cazalla the bitcoin foundation and f.mpif statements. i'll make blogposts from them later
jurov: i should prolly make an overview who paid the tax, but such bureaucratic overhead would cause them to rise :DDD
thestringpuller: i've kept an eye on the depository but can't distinguish tax vs donations
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00061771 = 10.1922 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: iirc mpoe and bitbet did
jurov: well.. it is already these 2 months
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5000 @ 0.00092685 = 4.6343 BTC [+]
jurov looks at thestringpuller sternly
[]bot: Bet placed: 20 BTC for No on "Gold to drop under $1000 before Feb 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1080/ Odds: 6(Y):94(N) by coin, 10(Y):90(N) by weight. Total bet: 31.93238982 BTC. Current weight: 39,772.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7739 @ 0.00060996 = 4.7205 BTC [-]
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ben_vulpes: fwiw, i don't see any need for tracking donors. anonymous charity is best charity.
ben_vulpes: (but also many thanks to our supporters :))
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[]bot: Bet placed: 1.25499999 BTC for No on "BTC to rally to $4000 before July 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1026/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.7199 BTC. Current weight: 53,006.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00064435 = 11.7594 BTC [+]
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cazalla: thestringpuller: is anyone paying the tax? <<< qntra yet to turn a profit, i'm yet to sell any shares so i don't believe i owe any, no gains from anything else to speak of
gribble: nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 48 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: * nubbins` scampers
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mod6: it goes! been busy. :)
mod6: foundation got a lot accomplished in December, but still have at least one defect to eradicate.
mod6: hopefully, won't be too bad.
mircea_popescu: actually... ok at first, but it wears thin pretty fast.
mircea_popescu: i ended up fucking reading, which is roughly the equivalent of a gamer that ends up firing his nintendo gameboy because fuck this "real world" shit.
mircea_popescu: low tech b-a, on dead trees. because the dirty little secret nobody wants to admit is that people sorted by geographical proximity yields an incredibly limited and ultimately boring set.
mircea_popescu: that's why we don't fucking talk to people on the bus, in the train, at the bank. because outside the novelty of it, it's so god damned boring.
cazalla: thestringpuller, game gear + tv = blown away back in the day
mircea_popescu: look at that, like two weeks. wonder how long this'll take.
assbot: Logged on 16-12-2014 19:11:15; jurov: prolly not many
mircea_popescu: how long can this last ? and why would anyone do that instead of you know, architecture school ?
mircea_popescu: but when teh cock is hard, there's work to be immediately done.
thestringpuller: funny, the PE requirement really do force out the n00bs, at least in this state
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 321 @ 0.00383342 = 1.2305 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: whoa this Luke-Jr getting murdered thing... apparently b-a does a perfectly fine job of rendering derps with or without mp.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31663 @ 0.00061415 = 19.4458 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: "mats: but yes. be less poor." is this in the bash even ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: this "spam on the blockchain" is only a thing because blocks go unfilled for the most part << exactly.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 8374 @ 0.00085687 = 7.1754 BTC [-] {10}
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr: Adlai: I favour absolute monarchy and small government. <<< afaik that's pretty much ... the majority view here ?
mircea_popescu: "Adlai: what criterea would you expect a monarch to use when picking a successor?" <<< welcome to the "none of your business, pleb" side of the monarchy stick. why would you expect you're qualified to discuss that ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's no "bootstrapping" a monarchy just like there's no training a virgin. a monarchy exists because it exists, if it does. that's all it can do.
mircea_popescu: Adlai: the question still stands. how does humanity pick a monarch, or conclude that a currently serving (because it's both a privilege and a duty) monarch is incompetent << humanity does not pick a monarch. and a monarch is not serving, the humanity is serving. if it doesn't [do a good job] of serving, or if it's not lucky to get stuck with a good monarch, it will diminish and eventually extinguish. while both of thes
mircea_popescu: e are essential matters for its future, only serving is much in its control, and even then, rather vaguely.
mircea_popescu: Vexual: Luke-Jr: Is it the current one that really annoyed you? << im pretty sure he held the same opinion at the time of jp2. since then there's been one who... abdicated ?!?! (i didn't know they could do that) and all sorts of innovative bs. i can readily see his argument, in that the papacy since perhaps Pacelli has little to do with what is preserved in the literary record of the renaissance and a lot more to do wi
mircea_popescu: Adlai: kakobrekla: i don't think i've been politically correct or pretending. in case there's any doubt, i also think that there's some level of delusion involved... but i also value conversation over insult <<< how do you distinguish ? "insult" is a subjective construction, like love. it has nothing to do with phenomenology.
mircea_popescu: "Luke-Jr: adlai: Catholicism has always made a big deal of any attempts to change doctrine; one couldn't do that unnoticed" << now s/catholicism/bitcoin/ and pray. i know ben_vulpes is at times worried on the score.
mircea_popescu: *: Luke-Jr wonders what kind of former Gentoo dev hates USE flags <<< always fascinating just how facetious this dude gets. i wonder if they have like, a special school in Stupid Kingdom or it just somehow naturally occurs. like radon pouches.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: Catholicism is a snare and a racket. If you're going to have belief in a higher power, at least choose a religion that isn't controlled by a central body with billions of USD at stake. << "if you are going to use shitty software, at least use some fly by night operator rather than microsoft" ? not logical, this. obviously you want the biggest, richest one there is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: 'spam' debate aside - how do you intend to filter the dice txes when the dicemeisters let go of the idiocy of reusing addrs ? <<< why idiocy ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: it must suck to be universally accepted as mind-numbingly stupid and yet not have the intelligence to be introspective enough to see it within yourself and change for the better << guy's wilful. intelligence can do relatively little, and it generally manifests in people who don't have much will to speak of.
mircea_popescu: "Where do anti-good ideas come from? They come from misguided attempts to do the impossible" quite.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00059782 = 13.152 BTC [-]
gernika: no. my wife would not approve of that