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dub: what
SD does can be achieved in a scalable way easily
dub: the reality is
SD exploits a weakness in bitcoin
iz: basically we are recording all
SD transaction history in the blockchain forever
iz: pigeons:
SD will still spam the network, regardless of the fees
iz: at least not with regard to
SD Namworld: Only way to have a block against
SD is if all miners simply exclude those transactions.
Namworld: Thick: He's saying "Blocking
SD directly is the only known viable method of Bitcoin surviving this attack." and I think he's almost alone in that...
Namworld: I was planning using MPOE results/
SD results statement to get the dividend info. Just not going to get rounded numbers tho.
Diablo-D3: jurov: becuase if
SD keeps continuing at this rate, thats 1GB a year
Diablo-D3: I'd solo mine and refuse tx for
SD maximian: the s.dice action is a bit of a surprise…
SD is still doing well, and it looks like the whale might even be back. I guess someone got jittery
kakobrekla: where was the largest
SD mention on some bigger gambling related site
jborkl:
SD about to cross 3 million bets
jurov: where does that "if bitcoin goes up,gambling/
sd will subside" come from?
Bugpowder: cause
SD has been dead for a few days
jborkl: Volume on
SD is insane right now, large bets on low odds also
Namworld: The way I see it, it's just 5%. Gets him more BTC/USD aside. If
SD keeps going like it is, he still got a large %. If it doesn't, he has money put aside.
leotreasure: how many shares are in the
SD 2nd tranche?
evoorhees: jurov - I have a way to see how many doublespends are successful against
SD evoorhees: jcpham - if you can make a good
SD vid for youtube I'll be happy to send you some coins
evoorhees: truffles you don't like the
SD site?
evoorhees: would be bad for me, but
SD would live on
evoorhees: the plan, for now, is to get
SD some good legal advice on how to proceed in the safest way possible. It is getting lots of press and free advertising, and I don't want to push it further before having all the ducks in a row
evoorhees:
SD is a gambling site, it earns 1.9%, easy
mircea_popescu: awkorama_ you prolly should ask dooglus or people in the forum
sd watching thread
awkorama_: anyone knows how the zero confirmation on
SD works? I mean I understand that there is transaction 1, that is the bet and transaction 2 that is the price and t2 takes its output from t1, but what prevents the attacker from waiting to see t2 and then try to stop t1 by invalidating it (e.g. double spend) ?
jborkl: hmm, lets make the anti-govt free to do thinkers -not be able to do what they want. No
SD, no SR, no Porn ... whats left for bitcoin
jborkl: so, I missed the main conversation- how does jr think he is killing
sd?
davout_: well Luke-Jr somehow has a point, as a simple node i really have no interest in relaying
SD txes
mircea_popescu: i bet you nickles to dollars that increasing the fee would simply increase the % of tx belonging to
sd.
Luke-Jr: Ukyo: it hasn't.
SD is just forcing it to fail
pigeons: iz:
SD can't control what fees their users pay, and the fees would have to be very high to negate the negative effect
davout: Luke-Jr: code a forl that doesn't relay
sd txes, i'll use it, seriously.
iz: can't
SD just raise fees for their transactions?
Luke-Jr: Ukyo: they're only there to DISCOURAGE spammers; which doesn't work for
SD because it has an unlimited supply of idiot gamblers to cover the expense
Ukyo: technically,
SD is paying miners
Luke-Jr: awkorama:
SD costs miners more than the fees cover
dub: I'm annoyed at
SD too but market forces will prevail
mircea_popescu: Namworld simply put, the problem with
sd transactions is that
sd made 20k last month, in btc. that's 400k usd at going rates.
Namworld: I don't see the problem with
SD transactions.
Luke-Jr: davout:
SD-including blocks often take minutes to cross the network
davout: Luke-Jr: why would a block be orphaned because it includes a
SD tx ?
Luke-Jr: davout: the risk of orphaned blocks from
SD is much greater than any fees they pay
davout: Luke-Jr: i politely beg to differ, it's a feature, not a bug, if you do not want these delicious transaction fees, don't mine the
SD txes, *boom* problem solved
davout: how much has
SD paid in fees atm ?
Namworld: If the blockchain can't handle
SD Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu:
SD's DDoS isn't useful at all
Anduck: for normal gambling man current
SD kind of gambling is super
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: then
SD can die
gigavps: mircea_popescu, the idea is to make
SD take deposits and not do everything through the block chain
midnightmagic: The issue is that while *we* will save ourselves from mining effort, if it becomes too widely-adopted
SD will modify their scheme and it'll be a kind of arms race after that
midnightmagic: We still have to accept blocks that other douches mine
SD into..
Namworld: There's always the risk of betting on
SD going down
Namworld: long term, the 64000x has as much chance earning money for
SD evoorhees: silly fool doesn't realize a ddos against
SD doesn't work
smickles: last that I read, it hadn't processed on
SD yet
smickles: btw, did anyone else notice the guy wondering what was up with his
SD bet,
mircea_popescu: on one hand, bettor knows
sd can raise *any* sum to pay out.
Namworld: At this rate
SD will own 90% of all bitcoins
Namworld: Seems like alot of activity on
SD aaannnd lots of BTC being bought.
Bugpowder: Doog has a special edition of the
SD charts up
mircea_popescu: i wonder how much of the buy pressure is ppl wanting btc to
sd JWU_42: buying up BTC to bet on
SD error4733: Bugpowder : thanks for the
SD sheet ! What a nice surprise today ! +8K
error4733: good,
SD run under EV for one week
error4733: if
SD up to 0.006 and btc hit 15$ i almost double my invest in 2 weeks
Luke-Jr: nyRednek: so like, if I tell people about other not-DDoSing-Bitcoin gambling sites to use instead of
SD, I'm in trouble? :o
kakobrekla: Buglouse blockchain suffers from small gambers on
sd mod6: its kinda like rg said once, if bitcoin can't handle the tx's from
SD, then we should pack up and shut off the lights now.
Namworld: If he puts it in
SD, might not be such a bad deal.
SD will probably remain a major Bitcoin betting site for a long time.
smickles: how many of
SD's competitors go to major global gambling conventions and advertise such as
SD has
pigeons: well there are issues, such as low barrier to competitors, operator risk in one man, and the bitcoin network retaliating against
SD "spam" transactions
markedathome: evoorhees: the
sd app is out of sync by about 0.05, possibly caused by a crash that happened that took out the machine (machine not the app), so don't know if app is misreading something somewhere
markedathome: evoorhees: is the balance on the
sd app supposed to reflect that of the amount in the deposit address?