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mircea_popescu: o i c
jurov: just loaded...I calculate again and again and still I have not enaugh bitcoins...orly?
mircea_popescu: shoudl calculate moar times
jurov: mircea, this is what worries you? "If Bitcoin grows too quickly - too many great minds might be idling around on beaches and frolicking with hookers n blow instead of building great things"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3081 @ 0.00066151 = 2.0381 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9182 @ 0.00066081 = 6.0676 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6921 @ 0.00066078 = 4.5733 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6601 @ 0.0006595 = 4.3534 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: heeh i've done my fair share of frolicking
jurov: btw, on the topic on "over average minds" today's dilbert is spot on
mircea_popescu: link ?
jurov: http://www.dilbert.com/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6906 @ 0.00067268 = 4.6455 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: heh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.579 = 4.053 BTC [+]
Namworld: top 110%... is that 10% out of the range of the normal population? Aka in the -10%?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13935 @ 0.00067268 = 9.3738 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: something like that.
Namworld: Sounds about right
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.579 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13965 @ 0.00067332 = 9.4029 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 185 @ 0.0006655 = 0.1231 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.0055361 = 10.2418 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.579 = 5.79 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1023 @ 0.0055361 = 5.6634 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1288 @ 0.0055824 = 7.1901 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 965 @ 0.00562288 = 5.4261 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: who was the havelock guy ?
mircea_popescu: topace https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137235.0
smickles: topace?
mircea_popescu: um... no ?
mircea_popescu: what a birdy whispered @me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067415 = 2.913 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00067426 = 3.9107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12379 @ 0.00067838 = 8.3977 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066563 = 2.8762 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.0006655 = 3.5797 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067814 = 2.9302 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3241 @ 0.00067838 = 2.1986 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20493 @ 0.00068 = 13.9352 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136953.msg1463176#msg1463176
mircea_popescu: price keeps soaring upwards and other things.
markedathome: and the followup advice!?
jurov: obviously, money = filth.
thestringpuller: ;;tickee
gribble: Error: "tickee" is not a valid command.
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.74001, Best ask: 15.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 15.74001, 24 hour volume: 58044.24259200, 24 hour low: 15.41000, 24 hour high: 15.98500, 24 hour vwap: 15.67347
thestringpuller: mod6 you around?
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 35 minutes and 32 seconds ago: <smickles> topace?
mod6: hey whats up thestringpuller
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066575 = 2.8767 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066561 = 2.8761 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13486 @ 0.0006655 = 8.9749 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 722 @ 0.0006643 = 0.4796 BTC [-]
jurov: yup barebackbot is on it again :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066446 = 2.8711 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19979 @ 0.0006643 = 13.272 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.000665 = 12.635 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.0006643 = 1.8933 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16799 @ 0.0006643 = 11.1596 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00065996 = 5.4117 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12499 @ 0.0006595 = 8.2431 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7257 @ 0.00065898 = 4.7822 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7369 @ 0.00065898 = 4.856 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1219 @ 0.0006589 = 0.8032 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.525 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.481 = 4.81 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: dont forget do drop these in your eyes before going to teh forums http://shrani.si/f/1O/HE/1XrqjeDY/imag0276.jpg
mircea_popescu: lmao
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.4249 BTC [+]
jurov: and protective eyewear/gloves, ofc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00067671 = 2.6392 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: umm
kakobrekla: what happend to bitmit or that ebay like bitcoin site
kakobrekla: is it closed for good now?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12421 @ 0.00066857 = 8.3043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14879 @ 0.0006589 = 9.8038 BTC [-]
jurov: just another drama material
jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41592.440
jurov: original owner silently sold it, it was discovered only cause new owner doesn't speak german
jurov: and in meantime there were some offers to sell bitmit that were later retracted (decoys, perhaps?)
mircea_popescu: jurov a i recall that, they put it up for sale cause "legal concerns" on the site itself
mircea_popescu: then it mysteriouslydidn't make the unspecified reserve
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 421 @ 0.00067671 = 0.2849 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14579 @ 0.00067703 = 9.8704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067462 = 2.915 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.0006745 = 5.6658 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.0006745 = 7.5881 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9621 @ 0.00066399 = 6.3882 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00067436 = 2.4614 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066399 = 6.6399 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 671 @ 0.00067436 = 0.4525 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7479 @ 0.00067459 = 5.0453 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00547355 = 10.6734 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066418 = 2.8699 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7579 @ 0.00066399 = 5.0324 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00066336 = 3.3831 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067437 = 2.914 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00067459 = 7.0495 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3934 @ 0.00067703 = 2.6634 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2995 @ 0.00067838 = 2.0317 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 953 @ 0.00545796 = 5.2014 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00540345 = 9.1859 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00528914 = 1.0578 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3749 @ 0.00528913 = 19.8289 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 398 @ 0.00521638 = 2.0761 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 102 @ 0.00521638 = 0.5321 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1476 @ 0.00521636 = 7.6993 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 422 @ 0.00515816 = 2.1767 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: >>people were crossing out the "V" on the wristband so that it read "LIE STRONG"
kakobrekla: oh lol.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067808 = 2.93 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2279 @ 0.00067838 = 1.546 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: o looky something for -pr to chew on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137291.0;topicseen
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067824 = 2.9307 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6979 @ 0.00067838 = 4.7344 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3047 @ 0.00067838 = 2.067 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11903 @ 0.00067999 = 8.0939 BTC [+]
Namworld: Is there anything MPOE-PR doesn't or cannot chew on?
Namworld: Well at least they could afford to do a proffesional design like SatoshiDice... but what about the coding?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00546512 = 11.4768 BTC [+]
Namworld: professional*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 223 @ 0.00547355 = 1.2206 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: dunno
kakobrekla: but what im worried about is some guy with 7 posts
kakobrekla: dunno
kakobrekla: i guess if sd goes down
kakobrekla: they might have a chance
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16097 @ 0.00067999 = 10.9458 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16203 @ 0.00068 = 11.018 BTC [+]
smickles: Namworld: I want more ram D:
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla how many bet sites since the bitbet ipo ? 11 ?
kakobrekla: hehe there about :>
mircea_popescu: Namworld people need to start coming to terms with the fact that coding doesn't matter.
mircea_popescu: it's like a "new car company" came to the car show on the strength of "there exists gasoline"
mircea_popescu: sure there's gasoline. it's a commodity. widely available, not too expensive.
kakobrekla: well, having your site not fall to pieces is a good first step ya know
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: "hi, i'd like to marry your daughter" "what can you tell me about yourself ?" "i have a penis"
mircea_popescu: "it doesn't fall to pieces"
kakobrekla: "hi, i'd like to marry your daughter" "what can you tell me about yourself ?" "im missing an arm, both legs and half of my head"
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: braaaaaaiiinsss
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3100 @ 0.00547355 = 16.968 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o, it's not even a bet site, it's a dice site. nice going lol.
kakobrekla: yea
mircea_popescu: hi, welcome to Willams Bakery, we sell sausage.
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13585607088.jpg << somebody needs to hire her as pr.
kakobrekla: how much
mircea_popescu: 3 sites a day.
kakobrekla: i visit more than tha.
kakobrekla: t
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.4249 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.425 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: bah so i bet .1 btc on sd and i lost
mircea_popescu: what a scam.
Namworld: smickles: you do?
Namworld: mircea: all betting games are a consented self-scamming.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00535586 = 6.427 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: sorta like marriage. you know it doesn't end well statistically and do it anyway.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21657 @ 0.00068 = 14.7268 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i wont do it
mircea_popescu: hehe many say that.
kakobrekla: too bad bitbet only allows for 1 year bets
mircea_popescu: hahaah what do the winner get, the girl ?
mircea_popescu: "i bet i won't marry. if i do, you can have her"
mircea_popescu: sounds faustian.
kakobrekla: you can have her and the dog.
mircea_popescu: you keep the milk ?
kakobrekla: ofc ;)
thestringpuller: sorta like marriage. you know it doesn't end well statistically and do it anyway. << what about when it does?
mircea_popescu: some people win dice games too.
thestringpuller: so is it all just a statistic?
mircea_popescu: hence the word statistically.
thestringpuller: ;)
thestringpuller: quantum popescu
smickles: it's only statistically b/c we don't yet know the fundamental nature of reality
smickles: we're probably close tho
thestringpuller: how about this for reality - http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3smh94/
smickles: i just love how, if you get into fine enough detail, particles, waves, atoms, none of those are practical models of reality
smickles: (or parts of it, rather)
thestringpuller: it's a good way to explain it for our current psychology
thestringpuller: it's kind of like that old story mimsy was the borgroves
Bugpowder_: yah
Bugpowder_: great story
thestringpuller: Bugpowder_: surprises me more and more each day
Bugpowder_: mimsy?
thestringpuller: yea
thestringpuller: not many people have read it
Bugpowder_: read it when I was a kid
thestringpuller: heh
thestringpuller: before it was cool
Bugpowder_: in the science fiction hall of fame Volume I
Bugpowder_: edited by asimov
Bugpowder_: 1929-1964
mircea_popescu: it's not that old.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/01/15/bitcoinstore-plans-to-take-on-the-world-of-online-electronics-retail-with-btc/
mircea_popescu: yeah. good for it.
mircea_popescu: not really news by now is it ?
thestringpuller: not really
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16443 @ 0.00067848 = 11.1562 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137163.msg1463417#msg1463417
mircea_popescu: lmao
kakobrekla: lol
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137170
mircea_popescu: this went over well.
mircea_popescu: Quote from: yochdog on January 16, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
mircea_popescu: I too will offer a large percentage for Mr Shavers.
mircea_popescu: I purchased bad in a very large amount and would be very generous with any recovery.
mircea_popescu: bah these people.
mircea_popescu: they know better than anyone, all the way to the wall.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12076 @ 0.00067848 = 8.1933 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3024 @ 0.00067423 = 2.0389 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.565 = 8.475 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pigeons you around ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26650 @ 0.00068 = 18.122 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00068 = 4.624 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067453 = 2.9146 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4730 @ 0.00067423 = 3.1891 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067977 = 2.9373 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 629 @ 0.00068 = 0.4277 BTC [+]
drug_motor: http://tinysong.com/LD1b
mod6: gotta love the melvins
mircea_popescu: "We took multiple 20k+ refunds left and right without batting and eye lash because we believe in this project and we know we will be releasing our bASIC Bitcoin mining units sooner than everyone else, especially our good friends BFL."
mircea_popescu: is tom on drugs nao ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00068 = 8.228 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: [02:15:36] <EskimoBob> Diablo-D3: any good news regarding DMC?
Diablo-D3: nope
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006775 = 2.9275 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 279 @ 0.00067725 = 0.189 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006775 = 2.9275 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1479 @ 0.00067725 = 1.0017 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.39001, Best ask: 15.46999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 15.39001, 24 hour volume: 60508.16264848, 24 hour low: 15.25000, 24 hour high: 15.94390, 24 hour vwap: 15.58379
mircea_popescu: retracing ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23494 @ 0.00067756 = 15.9186 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4328 @ 0.00067926 = 2.9398 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 250 @ 0.00129998 = 0.325 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13741 @ 0.00067725 = 9.3061 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2759 @ 0.00067423 = 1.8602 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4137 @ 0.00067423 = 2.7893 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00067074 = 2.2134 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00066658 = 22.997 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19692 @ 0.00066529 = 13.1009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00066385 = 17.3929 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15471 @ 0.00066362 = 10.2669 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066372 = 2.8679 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6637 @ 0.00066362 = 4.4044 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00066336 = 1.4926 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9396 @ 0.00066319 = 6.2313 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11977 @ 0.00066319 = 7.943 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.000661 = 7.0727 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 1.1227 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 908 @ 0.00535392 = 4.8614 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 361 @ 0.00515816 = 1.8621 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00514107 = 6.6834 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00491501 = 4.915 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.004915 = 24.575 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00491 = 49.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0049 = 4.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 440 @ 0.00478099 = 2.1036 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00474002 = 2.844 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00473693 = 2.3685 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00454709 = 5.0018 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00454708 = 18.1883 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00066073 = 6.7394 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00065983 = 14.3183 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1626 @ 0.0006589 = 1.0714 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3856 @ 0.00066073 = 2.5478 BTC [+]
Jewish_James: can someone explain to me how the winnings are calculated at bitbet?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 500 @ 0.61599036 = 307.9952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 615 @ 0.35798393 = 220.1601 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.29348232 = 293.4823 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.22898071 = 228.9807 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Jewish_James the side that prevails splits up the bets of the side that lost.
mircea_popescu: proportionally by the time weights
Jewish_James: and the wager amount?
mircea_popescu: what do you mean ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15144 @ 0.00066363 = 10.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00065817 = 16.2568 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21982 @ 0.00065758 = 14.4549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13396 @ 0.00065697 = 8.8008 BTC [-]
Jewish_James: most of the propositions are very one-sided, so say you pick the favored choice , does everyone have to make equal sized bets, or could someone bet a huge amount and greatly reduce the winnings for everyone else if that side wins
Jewish_James: I guess a better question is how are your winnings calculated?
Jewish_James: lol, i just asked my 1st question
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: look at one of the closed bets maybe ?
Namworld: The earnings are proportional to bet amount multiplied by "weight". Usually the more time passes, the less weight bets have.
mircea_popescu: http://www.just-food.com/news/russia-bans-us-meat-imports-tested-for-ractopamin_id121499.aspx
mircea_popescu: that's low.
mircea_popescu: seriously ?! russia bans us meat ?
mircea_popescu: 30 years ago...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00067036 = 9.1504 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.52 = 1.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.41 = 4.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00067036 = 4.2568 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0048 = 4.8 BTC [+]
Jewish_James: so im assuming the weight number a percentage? I'm trying to figure out the payout formula including the 1% fee and preventing the house from gambling its own money which i assume it doesn't do
mircea_popescu: is this the first time you're betting on anything ?
Jewish_James: no, just doing other things and i havent got the payouts calculated correctly
Jewish_James: ive only guessed the formula twice
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00067036 = 5.9662 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9552 @ 0.000657 = 6.2757 BTC [-]
FabianB: http://bitbet.us/bet/53/bitcoin-below-13-00-before-january-15th-2013/ <-- looks like you can loose even if you bet on the right side (last bet)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.000657 = 6.4386 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: FabianB hmmm
mircea_popescu: FabianB the reason is this : site takes 1%
mircea_popescu: if you bet very late and the odds are very low you can end up paying a little like that.
mircea_popescu: say there's 100 btc to 1 btc
mircea_popescu: vig is thus 1.01 btc
mircea_popescu: if you put the 100th btc in late enough you might not actually win enough of the 1btc to make up for the 1% you'll be charged
FabianB: ic, its 1% of the bet size
mircea_popescu: yeah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9148 @ 0.000657 = 6.0102 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4719 @ 0.00065697 = 3.1002 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000671 = 2.8994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00067109 = 6.6438 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7879 @ 0.00067432 = 5.313 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00065715 = 2.8257 BTC [-]
pigeons: people who use ruby never had computers with no disk space
mircea_popescu: pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136953.msg1463866#msg1463866
mircea_popescu: she found it.
pigeons: well they really do think its a neat idea, and you won't be able to convince them otherwise until they turn 13 at least
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.0006576 = 4.4717 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00066014 = 15.5133 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00066014 = 9.242 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00065715 = 0.0138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000657 = 1.314 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2356 @ 0.00065697 = 1.5478 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16916 @ 0.00065603 = 11.0974 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 577 @ 0.00494481 = 2.8532 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00065603 = 3.7722 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065994 = 2.8516 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5829 @ 0.00066014 = 3.848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065607 = 2.8349 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4979 @ 0.00065603 = 3.2664 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00065589 = 3.6402 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065864 = 2.846 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7129 @ 0.00065867 = 4.6957 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pigeons btw, were you able to verify the rota guy ?
pigeons: ah just saw it
pigeons: kinda busy, get back as soon as i can
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065595 = 2.8344 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00065591 = 10.0682 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: haven't seen jcpham either. yo!
pigeons: my computer is 2/3 between debian unstable to experimental downgrade to unstable. the version of libc i last installed bitcoin against is no longer on my machine
pigeons: does it verify for you mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: i was yo!ing at jcpham
pigeons: yeah
mircea_popescu: omg i never tried
pigeons: ok well anybody out there
mircea_popescu: im a party not teh judge!
pigeons: in the peanut gallery
mircea_popescu: you're the oens getting paid
pigeons: im verifying this out in the public, openly
pigeons: interactive
pigeons: blockchain.info probably implements signing different than the reference client, i know armory does also
pigeons: lets see how far i get without a login
pigeons: 1 click
pigeons: password: rogersmommaisahoyo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00065589 = 8.2314 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1714 @ 0.00065514 = 1.1229 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lolwut
pigeons: ooh now this is a smooth platform mircea_popescu
pigeons: blockchain.info
pigeons: integrated "satoshidice" button under "games" right in the wallet
mircea_popescu: what can possibly go wrong
pigeons: ok receive money -> other actions -> verify message
pigeons: message has the wrong length, need a <cr> or something somewhere
pigeons: Error Verifying MessageSignature has the wrong length
pigeons: ah i see HBNlxhUDnEKbMl1p082ergE+ekRZINRmr12/DpZQy0sODhxGTE40HukSnPL+mQDDy8yg+bjQblA+NsJe
pigeons: ah
pigeons: but when you view the source of the double cherry reticulated lorry award for shitty html you get
pigeons: HBNlxhUDnEKbMl1p082ergE+ekRZINRmr12/DpZQy0sODhxGTE40HukSnPL+mQDDy8yg+bjQblA+NsJeI3XyoEs=
pigeons: one sec
mircea_popescu: eh ?
pigeons: Message Successfully Verified
mircea_popescu: i see the whole thing, ends in =
pigeons: yeah of course the site works with whatever browser you use
pigeons: ie6 is picky though
mircea_popescu: you srsly on ie6 ?!
pigeons: no
pigeons: wtf
pigeons: anyway loks good
pigeons: let me review that original transaction confirm we are talking about the correct address in question
mircea_popescu: you should prolly consult with teh other two too
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
pigeons: yah
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00065514 = 5.6342 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: March may seem a long time away as we all have ASIC blue balls right now, but its really not that far away, and I salute and congratulate all of you who have had the testicular fortitude to stick it out with us because you my friends will receive the ultimate reward. Sure Avalon may get some units out before the Chinese new year but that is sure to be a very limited number. On the other hand our assembly house has an u
mircea_popescu: nlimited assembly capacity and as soon as the Chinese new year ends we will have 16,000 freshly fabbed and packaged ASIC chips and we will be assembling those PCB's at FULL CAPACITY !We will be shipping ALL CURRENT ORDERS IN THE MONTH OF MARCH AND WE STILL HAVE ROOM FOR MORE ORDERS SO Get IN WHILE YOU STILL CAN! I stake my personal name and word on that.
mircea_popescu: this dude is seriously entertaining.
Ukto: wow
Ukto: thats the same guy that did icarus and lancelot?
Ukto: right?
pigeons: no nzhang is with avalon i thought, and this says "sure avalon may getsome out before us"
pigeons: sounds braggadacious enough to be inabfl
pigeons: WE STILL HAVE ROOM FOR MORE ORDERS SO Get IN WHILE YOU STILL CAN! I stake my personal name and word on that.
pigeons: well mircea_popescu, what's the correct answer?
pigeons: Ukto: wuts this: https://bitfunder.com/asset/Exchange.ESIF#tab_description
Ukto: Possibly questionable
Ukto: :P
Ukto: he claims to have history
pigeons: that's like worse than "bankroll my poker game"
Ukto: of doing things for btc for ppl for a year
Ukto: But I havent heard of it
pigeons: cause at least in poker you control more variables
pigeons: WE STILL HAVE ROOM FOR MORE ORDERS SO Get IN WHILE YOU STILL CAN! I stake my personal name and word on that.
pigeons: i bet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12686 @ 0.00065514 = 8.3111 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00065483 = 5.3041 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065421 = 6.5421 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.0006542 = 17.3363 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8514 @ 0.00065414 = 5.5693 BTC [-]
FabianB_: jurov: there?
Ukto: pigeons: agreed
Ukto: i sent him a msg that he needs to be alot more explicit
Ukto: i think thats why he ahsnt made forum posting
Ukto: and descriptive
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 70 @ 0.1435 = 10.045 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: pigeons the impersonal name ? i dunno
mircea_popescu: and the quote was from basic guy
mircea_popescu: cablepair
Ukto: i think bfl started a "war" with their asic announce
Ukto: then the others swalled and followed suite
Ukto: and reality is none of them are actually ready
Ukto: or were anwhere near when they announced
Ukto: and inserted foot in mouth
Ukto: the closest we have see for sure, is asicminers chips
Ukto: at least that seems realistic, but as of this point I am not questioning friedcat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4060 @ 0.00065591 = 2.663 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24790 @ 0.00065624 = 16.2682 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19386 @ 0.00065414 = 12.6812 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4164 @ 0.0006539 = 2.7228 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1873 @ 0.0006539 = 1.2248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00065308 = 15.3474 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 327 @ 0.00065279 = 0.2135 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.0049475 = 12.3688 BTC [+]
markedathome: less than 24 hrs to go http://www.avalon-asics.com/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5841 @ 0.00065279 = 3.8129 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00065193 = 5.0851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6709 @ 0.00065104 = 4.3678 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00065624 = 15.2248 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00065624 = 4.9874 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25 @ 0.00065624 = 0.0164 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 94 @ 0.0067 = 0.6298 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 499 @ 0.0072 = 3.5928 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 180 @ 0.0075 = 1.35 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.30001, Best ask: 15.34759, Bid-ask spread: 0.04758, Last trade: 15.30001, 24 hour volume: 47116.38437355, 24 hour low: 15.25000, 24 hour high: 15.84304, 24 hour vwap: 15.54929
Ukto: not sure
Ukto: i only 'saw' them in the pics
Ukto: a week ago
Ukto: or so
Ukto: when they arrived
Bugpowder: They could be anything
Ukto: yeah
Ukto: as i said, from what can be seen
pigeons: so one else even has that though
Bugpowder: ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:d0815ec0bd1b03121c4b135e2613d39aa80cd5ff766dffe906dc1b8b
gribble: Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
mircea_popescu: then again asicminer has the advantage that it could be run as a ponzi for quite a while.
Bugpowder: yea for years
mircea_popescu: they've discreetely skipped the "samples to community" part, the "we have the chips, they're hashing, just a few" story can be strung till july.
mircea_popescu: bfl has no such benefit.
mircea_popescu: but in all fairness, there's no actual proof this has anything akin to the color of truth. fact is we don't know.
Bugpowder: This guy just blew his wad on S.DICE
Bugpowder: http://blockchain.info/address/1GATbuCSWbWCueEL3W9z7EQyJACHjHYH8e?filter=0
Bugpowder: http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=100&min_bet=10&status=ALL
Bugpowder: Putting 400BTC bets down
Bugpowder: lost it all
mircea_popescu: aww
mircea_popescu: i bet .01 btc earlier
mircea_popescu: got totally scammed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00065624 = 2.8218 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: the fee was .0355 wtf?!?
Bugpowder: its weird, S.DICE sells off a bit AFTER the whales show up?
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/147/mtgox-out-of-business-by-end-of-year/
mircea_popescu: how about that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00065174 = 11.7965 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 991 @ 0.00065104 = 0.6452 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065103 = 6.5103 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6009 @ 0.00065102 = 3.912 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19535 @ 0.00065624 = 12.8196 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1965 @ 0.00065704 = 1.2911 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 89 @ 0.00525532 = 0.4677 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.33000, Best ask: 15.34760, Bid-ask spread: 0.01760, Last trade: 15.34760, 24 hour volume: 47649.20971090, 24 hour low: 15.25000, 24 hour high: 15.84304, 24 hour vwap: 15.54152
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.0757365 * 15.54152
gribble: 1.17706032948
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26091 @ 0.00065102 = 16.9858 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1069 @ 0.00065096 = 0.6959 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065698 = 2.8388 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14135 @ 0.00065704 = 9.2873 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17298 @ 0.00065867 = 11.3937 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3636 @ 0.00065889 = 2.3957 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28521 @ 0.00066014 = 18.8279 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17971 @ 0.00066199 = 11.8966 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28374 @ 0.00066244 = 18.7961 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00066291 = 15.8767 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23283 @ 0.00066334 = 15.4445 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00066418 = 11.3575 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7183 @ 0.00066443 = 4.7726 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 665 @ 0.00067432 = 0.4484 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3063 @ 0.00067482 = 2.067 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4562 @ 0.00067482 = 3.0785 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9738 @ 0.00067483 = 6.5715 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22775 @ 0.00067483 = 15.3693 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.8959 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33 = 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 320 @ 0.0075 = 2.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065343 = 2.8235 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10711 @ 0.00065334 = 6.9979 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 65 @ 0.0076 = 0.494 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 7 @ 0.0076 = 0.0532 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 18 @ 0.33 = 5.94 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.338 = 5.07 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00066963 = 4.6874 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00066963 = 1.741 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00066617 = 4.53 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067465 = 2.9152 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8560 @ 0.00067483 = 5.7765 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067388 = 2.9118 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6929 @ 0.00067363 = 4.6676 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 5 @ 0.0076 = 0.038 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23071 @ 0.00067363 = 15.5413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2029 @ 0.00066617 = 1.3517 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.339 = 2.373 BTC [+]
FabianB_: jurov: please see pm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067472 = 2.9155 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18379 @ 0.00067483 = 12.4027 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0095 = 0.019 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 15 @ 0.0096 = 0.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0096 BTC [+]