assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00639999 = 6.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.0064 = 21.12 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.85001, Best ask: 23.89900, Bid-ask spread: 0.04899, Last trade: 23.85001, 24 hour volume: 53676.15792582, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 23.99800, 24 hour vwap: 23.38993
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1709 @ 0.00063466 = 1.0846 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00063534 = 2.9226 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7671 @ 0.00063578 = 4.8771 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00063701 = 2.9302 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 820 @ 0.00063737 = 0.5226 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3441 @ 0.00062569 = 2.153 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 42 @ 0.0063 = 0.2646 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1065 @ 0.00062569 = 0.6664 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 868 @ 0.00062314 = 0.5409 BTC [-]
Namworld: Still 4 BTC to be distributed on BTC-BOND, one per day, by the way
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9132 @ 0.00062314 = 5.6905 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6168 @ 0.00062313 = 3.8435 BTC [-]
jurov: not just s.bbet. s.dice looks silly now, too
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.81178, Best ask: 23.99894, Bid-ask spread: 0.18716, Last trade: 23.81178, 24 hour volume: 54088.59621120, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 24.00000, 24 hour vwap: 23.39639
Bugpower: I gotta price mine over yours for a bit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2382 @ 0.00062313 = 1.4843 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0064 BTC [+]
Namworld: Eventually, eventually. When I have the money
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0063 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6490 @ 0.00062163 = 4.0344 BTC [-]
jurov: i'd buy something like C200N but...0.43BTC?
jurov: yes. needs btcusd to go over 35
mod6: well, forward months are usually a little more
mircea_popescu: im sure it was cheaper two weeks ago, when the btcusd was still 15ish
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.98705, Best ask: 24.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01295, Last trade: 24.00000, 24 hour volume: 54422.54900535, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 24.00000, 24 hour vwap: 23.40115
jurov: C300N turns profitable at btcusd=41.6 O.o
jurov: why C300N and C350N sell at the same price?
mod6: the curve flattens the more otm they are
Namworld: because there's a standard minimum price and so far out of market price...
Namworld: well they're all at minimum price
Namworld: if there was no minimum, C350N would be cheaper I guess
jurov: far? it's only 46% over current price
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.04004, Best ask: 24.04281, Bid-ask spread: 0.00277, Last trade: 24.04004, 24 hour volume: 54796.84225547, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 24.04004, 24 hour vwap: 23.40587
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 23.5 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 4618.2439 bitcoins offered at or under 24.5 USD, worth 112289.956161 USD in total.
mircea_popescu: actually the calls out 6 weeks show LESS price variation than has happened the past 3 weeks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.0006192 = 0.805 BTC [-]
Lyspooner: why aren't you doing those things now
Namworld: lol, how many you got PsychoticBoy?
jurov: haha... i consider half-retired since 29 (paid off my flat) and slowly getting there
jurov: it's better to retire gradually than abruptly
jurov: um, still 2k ask wall at 24 at bitstamp.. anyone doing arb?
Namworld: I got no convenient way to move fiat around
jurov: got an idea wrt bitstamp and am pestering Ukto with it.. we'll see. but he's busy now with other things
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6056 @ 0.0006192 = 3.7499 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5094 @ 0.00061882 = 3.1523 BTC [-]
Anduck: mircea_popescu: i think he meant peasant
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3256 @ 0.00061882 = 2.0149 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00061876 = 5.507 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8812 @ 0.00061863 = 5.4514 BTC [-]
Anduck: there's a lot possibilities
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00606903 / 0.00635803 / 0.0064 (34996 shares, 222.51 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00574395 / 0.007395 (4398275 shares, 25,263.48 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00554145 / 0.0075 (8548901 shares, 47,373.31 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00061864 = 0.6186 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1188 @ 0.00061863 = 0.7349 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00061862 = 5.6913 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00062163 = 0.3108 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00061862 = 3.8973 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8122 @ 0.00062163 = 5.0489 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3352 @ 0.00062399 = 2.0916 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00061862 = 0.7114 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00061858 = 5.7528 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6679 @ 0.00061796 = 4.1274 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3498 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1494 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1495 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.1497 = 0.8982 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.1498 = 0.749 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 8 @ 0.151 = 1.208 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00063334 = 13.3001 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00063534 = 0.5083 BTC [+]
Namworld: It looks like no more bids on ASICMINER going to happen
Bugpower: are people still going to pay 0.41?
Namworld: There's a reason the forum doesn't allow post deletion
Bugpower: do you think they will honor them now that there are 1000s of shares on market?
Namworld: All the shares on the market request 0.30 minimum...
Namworld: Seems no one wants to sell under .3
Namworld: If friedcat keeps spamming more and more ASICs, could generate a lot in mining
Namworld: Although the profit from ASIC sales seems like the sweet deal.
Namworld: I'd like to have an idea of the power consumption and the cost to them to make boards
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C230T] 915 @ 0.15315884 = 140.1403 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00063379 = 1.8063 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10722 @ 0.00061922 = 6.6393 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 50 @ 0.0099 = 0.495 BTC [+]
Namworld: By the look of it, it was an ask
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00063379 = 7.447 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00063534 = 0.9848 BTC [+]
Bugpower: nope I am only buying into this shit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15740 @ 0.00063534 = 10.0003 BTC [+]
Bowjob: So, is it worth getting mpex if you only have around 100 BTC to play around?
Namworld: To me it's always worth it. Later, it will only cost more.
Bowjob: The only thing I understand are the stocks, still clueless about options
mircea_popescu: Bowjob in general after a few k worth of total trade it's worth it
error4733: minus 5 btc or 10 if your referer is kind
Bugpower: options straddle at 24 looks kinda juicy right now
mircea_popescu: if you can do the sort of magic shit Bugpower does and extract 100% out of your btc in six weeks
Bugpower: you may have more BTC in the future
mircea_popescu: then putting in 60 btc means you'll be whole by spring.
Bowjob: yeah, I'm aware an mpex account could exceed the cost of a nyse seat
Bowjob: Bug we started with the same capital.. what sort of voodoo are you doing?
Bowjob: I'd get slaughtered right now if I jump in right now
Bugpower: I was lucky to buy a shitload of calls before last opex
Bugpower: then reverse postion at the top
Bowjob: and that could backfire miserably, right?
Bugpower: and I was REALLY lucky to buy calls when it was at 17 today
Bugpower: and i was STUPID to get partially flushed out on a brief dump on Monday?
Bugpower: so ponzi power is not where I would like it to be.
Bowjob: a call is like a guarantee to buy bitcoins at a specific price, you just gotta pay a premium for that guarantee right?
Bugpower: From Dec 2011, up around 3000% USD
Bugpower: they said it was for early adopters only
Bowjob: I told my boss about bitcoin when they reached 31 USD
Bowjob: we all know what happened there, good thing he didnt ask me the following days after
Bowjob: I thought it was done for. then months later, I saw it at 10 dollars, then 11, then 12
Bowjob: I got some at 13.29, then it's all gravy train all the way to 24
Bugpower: when it hit $2 I knew it was time to buy
Bugpower: I was lucky I didn't buy in the first bubble
mircea_popescu: i think bitcoin pretty much is divided among they who loaded up under 4 and they who did not.
Bugpower: wanted to buy at $7 on the first bubble
mircea_popescu: Bugpower i bought my first batch, 60 bitcoins, at 16 each.
Bowjob: heck when I logged in on my mt gox, I saw orders at 2 dollars
mircea_popescu: i happen to not care that going from 16 to 24 took 16 months
jurov: but i think mpex ipo participation got me back into game :DDD
mircea_popescu: probably best investment in history of btc, esp for the people who got the shares at 2k satoshi
Namworld: I keep hearing about interesting stuff late xP
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7010 @ 0.00063534 = 4.4537 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13890 @ 0.0006354 = 8.8257 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0212 BTC [-]
jurov: i just paid puny 1.55 btc for wordpress templates for quite sizable website
jurov: realized how much it's wort now
BitHub: i hope it wasn't wordpress.com?
jurov: no, i ended up doing a site for nonprofit
Bowjob: someone's asking for a 1000 BTC 'loan' with the title "Impossible to pay you back"
jurov: and wamnted to use something mainstream so that any monkey can take it over
Bowjob: I'm not sure if trolling, or serious or stupid or both
error4733: he can provide bisness plan for serious enquiries
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0064 = 0.0128 BTC [+]
jurov: error4733, but you imitated that style nicely
Bowjob: no business plans provided. it's the same dude who asked for 1200 BTC loan, then 350-400 BTC, then 1000 BTC.. oh and it's the same guy who called in 23.99 as the top for 2013
Bowjob: I offered him the opportunity to short the coins, but declined.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.91002, Best ask: 23.99997, Bid-ask spread: 0.08995, Last trade: 23.99998, 24 hour volume: 56718.38842089, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 24.11000, 24 hour vwap: 23.42452
Namworld: You know, the thread title might have been changed by a moderator... I could easily see that happening
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00063207 = 4.8985 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0063 = 0.0126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5829 @ 0.00062818 = 3.6617 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 568 @ 0.00063224 = 0.3591 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30394 @ 0.00063224 = 19.2163 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.0006345 = 5.3615 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6610 @ 0.00063676 = 4.209 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.0006369 = 4.4265 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4609 @ 0.00063737 = 2.9376 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00062734 = 5.1442 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00062734 = 1.3488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9177 @ 0.00062729 = 5.7566 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13421 @ 0.00063737 = 8.5541 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3179 @ 0.00063801 = 2.0282 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1271 @ 0.00063801 = 0.8109 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10979 @ 0.00063804 = 7.005 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2284 @ 0.00063804 = 1.4573 BTC [+]
gribble: Time since last block: 50 minutes and 6 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8366 @ 0.00063884 = 5.3445 BTC [+]
BitHub: anybody personally selling any assets?
BitHub: shares into asic rigs? avalons etc
jurov: BitHub, aren't you interested in difficulty futures perhaps?
jurov: i mostly issue them :)
BitHub: can you explain what they are a bit more?
jurov: 1. you buy them on whatever price they're offered
jurov: 2. expiration date comes, it will be liquidated and you'll get back current difficulty in satoshi
jurov: so if it goes up to 4 million, you'll get 0.04 BTC/share
jurov: also shorting is posible if you expect difficulty to stagnate/go down
BitHub: where can i check the difficulty rating in real time?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00063604 = 13.1342 BTC [-]
BitHub: i purchased some, got no idea if i own them or not tho
jurov: it's more a contract, than something you own.
jurov: the contract says i promise to pay you according to diffculty on a set date
BitHub: sorry that was directed at mircea
BitHub: so its like a bet? if you don't make that date you get nothing?
jurov: -O odd months, -E even months settlement
jurov: so after -E expires, i'll create new one for april with the same name
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063349 = 1.5837 BTC [-]
BitHub: would you buy some futures leo?
jurov: well, buy them only if you believe in asics
jurov: i'm selling them, nuff said
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 3 @ 0.33832578 = 1.015 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BitHub the ownership of asicminer shares is a little iffy, because there's no exchange/clearinghouse atm
mircea_popescu: if indeed their own system is ever deployed, and if indeed it actually works as expected, you probably have something
jurov: i advise against it, based on their not exactly stellar performance with managing bitvps asset
jurov: !ticker btct bitvps
assbot: [BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: -- / -- / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 312 @ 0.00635294 = 1.9821 BTC [+]
BitHub: haha it's leotreasure's asic store
mjr__: so, i got the call with $17 strike expiring this month
mjr__: from what i've calculated going off the 24 hour volume-weighted cross-exchange ratio, that i am in the money above 24.97095538, is that true?
mjr__: just checking my math
jurov: ;;calc (24.971-17)/24.971
mjr__: by the way, Jurov, coinbr has worked awesome, i have not had one problem so far
mjr__: which is more than i can say for coinbase
jurov: ;;calc 17/(1-0.33)
jurov: ^ your break even point
jurov: ;;calc 17/(1-0.3383)
mircea_popescu: mjr_ eyah, save that formula somewhere. strike - (1 / what you paid) = break even point
mjr__: ah, you use the current trading price instead of the 24 hour cross-exchange average?
jurov: anyway, looks like i'm going to be fully self-sufficient capital-wise, no need for seeding
jurov: i'm rather on lookout for people who can get things done and can develop/manage non-core areas such as charts
mjr__: so...just to see if i understand this right...
mjr__: what i paid is (0.33832578*23.56) + the strike of 17 = 24.97095538
mircea_popescu: in dollars you paid 0.33832578 * whatever price was then
mjr__: that is why it is a little higher than that number
mircea_popescu: so yes, if you do fiat accoubnting your breakeven is much lower than if you do btc accounting
mjr__: it's fine either way
mjr__: either way, i just want to be able to watch the price climb without being mad that i can't get in till friday
mjr__: true, but no capital for collateral
mjr__: and yeah, i like calls
mjr__: once i have a large position, i may think about buying puts
mircea_popescu: calls are like, high chance of low loss, small chance of huge win
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00063349 = 0.2851 BTC [-]
mjr__: i like small definite cost, big (unlimited) payoff
mjr__: and also, psychologically, i will now be happy if they shoot up to $30
mjr__: frustrating to not be able to get cash in there already
mjr__: what do you think of camp bx?
mjr__: had horrible experience buying through coinbase, i just got the 1 btc i ordered on feb 2nd today
mjr__: good online wallet, bad exchange so far as i can see
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8584 @ 0.00063884 = 5.4838 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00063899 = 4.2812 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9416 @ 0.00063973 = 6.0237 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00063973 = 0.3199 BTC [+]
mjr__: i will try bitcoin local first, or maybe reach out to some friends in nyc
mjr__: i can't deal with the huge wait times
mircea_popescu: yurpeans get same day service with the frenchie folks.
mjr__: coinbase takes 4 days i think
mjr__: for the transfer to go through
mjr__: bitfloor is supposed to have like same day transfer from online banking
mjr__: since they have an ING direct checking, if you have one, you can move money to their account same day
mjr__: the last assbot message was my order going through :)
jurov: mjr_ why so rushed? yo could have placed limit order at lower price
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00635294 = 0.3176 BTC [+]
jurov: that way i bought 40BTC worth of s.mpoe below 0.00062 this night
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9234 @ 0.00063973 = 5.9073 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1866 @ 0.00064045 = 1.1951 BTC [+]
mjr__: options expire almost a week before month end this month
jurov: well, it's last friday midnight
jurov: not exactly the brightest idea , if you ask me
jurov: i think mp recognized that and set diff futures expiration in the middle of week instead
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10234 @ 0.00064045 = 6.5544 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4516 @ 0.00064071 = 2.8934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00064071 = 4.4529 BTC [+]
mjr__: yeah i could have done limits
mjr__: but i figured i'd just get in
mjr__: i can't wait for the end of this month
mjr__: see how dividends go, and hopefully options are good
mjr__: so no one has used camp bx? they have a pretty cool platform
mjr__: allow hidden orders, dark pool
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4534 @ 0.00064071 = 2.905 BTC [+]
Bowjob: anyone wanna play street fighter iv for bitcoins'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2167 @ 0.00064071 = 1.3884 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1099 @ 0.00064071 = 0.7041 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13101 @ 0.00063861 = 8.3664 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6348 @ 0.00063861 = 4.0539 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11901 @ 0.00063861 = 7.6001 BTC [-]
knotwork: If you are pretty confident bitcoins are just going to generally keep going up and up, are options of much use, or are they generally mostly useful if you are uncertain thus want to hedge against your uncertainty?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1140 @ 0.00063775 = 0.727 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00628703 = 4.4009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8250 @ 0.00623001 = 51.3976 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1589 @ 0.00623 = 9.8995 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1989 @ 0.00621542 = 12.3625 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00610083 = 3.0504 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00610082 = 14.0319 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.0060723 = 6.3759 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.006 = 12 BTC [-]
jurov: snow and frost here too...but also full sunshine :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00063825 = 2.936 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00580003 = 0.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 15481 @ 0.0058 = 89.7898 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00570008 = 5.7001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00556183 = 5.5618 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00063825 = 0.8297 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19460 @ 0.00063775 = 12.4106 BTC [-]
BitHub: nice eskimo, do you have a handicap or just play for fun?
Bowjob: bithub wanna play sfiv
Bowjob: i have the best blanka around!
BitHub: hoping to buy some custom fitted clubs this year
Chaang-Noi: lol at pope, i did not even know they could quit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5190 @ 0.00063332 = 3.2869 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 360 @ 0.00063615 = 0.229 BTC [+]
BitHub: was thinking to get ping irons
BitHub: haven't heard of blades, sounds good tho haha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7098 @ 0.00063615 = 4.5154 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7622 @ 0.00063615 = 4.8487 BTC [+]
BitHub: its like playing with a 1iron every shot
gribble: A market order to buy 25000 bitcoins right now would take 673080.6320 USD and would take the last price up to 31.3000 USD, resulting in an average price of 26.9232 USD/BTC.
Chaang-Noi: we were active until the SEC made it clear they were doing their thing
Chaang-Noi: and when i say we i mean myself and my lawyers, no one else wanted to join in.
Chaang-Noi: they waited for pirated to pay, and then either gave up or joined the SEC
gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 69622.631 bitcoins, for a total of 16223006162626.1738 USD and take the price to 13370133701337.0000.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00063306 = 8.6729 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00063615 = 3.6261 BTC [+]
jurov: everyone is harping about mtgox... meanwhile on bitstamp there are btc to be had at 23.70 still
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6720 @ 0.00063615 = 4.2749 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6580 @ 0.0006368 = 4.1901 BTC [+]
jurov: EskimoBob, i usually get euros on next day, too
Chaang-Noi: im not sure why you bothered with mt gox lol
jurov: lol i'm raving about it like 5th time around here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9636 @ 0.0006368 = 6.1362 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.0006368 = 14.0096 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5563 @ 0.0006368 = 3.5425 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3984 @ 0.00063306 = 2.5221 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4116 @ 0.00063301 = 2.6055 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.0007 = 0.07 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.0006368 = 2.579 BTC [+]
jurov: lol bitcoiners got so used to services abruptly ceasing operation
jurov: i got trivial password reset inquiry email, ended with "Hope you are still up and running."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8284 @ 0.00063301 = 5.2439 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5616 @ 0.00063186 = 3.5485 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11121 @ 0.0006368 = 7.0819 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00063807 = 10.911 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00064072 = 1.3775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064094 = 1.6024 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6676 @ 0.00064173 = 4.2842 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.000642 = 19.0674 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10474 @ 0.00064285 = 6.7332 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.0006373 = 9.0815 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 426 @ 0.00064285 = 0.2739 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5131 @ 0.00064304 = 3.2994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00064307 = 2.6044 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4893 @ 0.00064364 = 3.1493 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 10748.003 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 265154.999149 USD in total.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.0006373 = 8.0937 BTC [-]
abracadabra: don't mind jcpham, that's just his way of saying hello
jcpham: yes i was saying hello
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063909 = 10.2254 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: sadly it is my bed time so i must say good night:)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3210 @ 0.00063909 = 2.0515 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7004 @ 0.00063949 = 4.479 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.0006438 = 12.9082 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.0006438 = 4.5388 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.0006441 = 6.0867 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00064313 = 11.3834 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00064313 = 3.4729 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.0006441 = 7.4716 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0006441 = 1.6747 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9986 @ 0.00064445 = 6.4355 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 896.14344 bitcoins offered at or under 24.0 USD, worth 21450.3202049 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 1.9573856 bitcoins demanded at or over 23.9 USD, worth 46.7875594469 USD in total.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.88490, Best ask: 23.91835, Bid-ask spread: 0.03345, Last trade: 23.91835, 24 hour volume: 30876.24546559, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.87169
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 514 @ 0.00064445 = 0.3312 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0006446 = 3.3519 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3154 @ 0.00064485 = 2.0339 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: I wonder at what BTC value people start complaining about wallet-to-wallet transaction fees
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9106 @ 0.00064313 = 5.8563 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17712 @ 0.00064351 = 11.3978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5983 @ 0.0006451 = 3.8596 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00064526 = 3.3231 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22721 @ 0.00064544 = 14.665 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16586 @ 0.00064556 = 10.7073 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5987 @ 0.00064581 = 3.8665 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22713 @ 0.00064621 = 14.6774 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8936 @ 0.00064662 = 5.7782 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14784 @ 0.00064698 = 9.565 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6324 @ 0.00064708 = 4.0921 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00064721 = 4.0774 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30450 @ 0.00064784 = 19.7267 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52462 @ 0.0006479 = 33.9901 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4180 @ 0.0006479 = 2.7082 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00064619 = 4.9757 BTC [-]
mod6: ;;calc 1000000000000000/11000000
mod6: ;;calc 90909090*.0005
mod6: ;;calc 90909090*.00000001
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00064619 = 6.9789 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8238 @ 0.00064313 = 5.2981 BTC [-]
jurov: ;;bc,convert shenanigans
gribble: 1 BTC = Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1742 @ 0.00064313 = 1.1203 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4906 @ 0.00064217 = 3.1505 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4943 @ 0.00063782 = 3.1527 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00595054 = 11.6036 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1357 @ 0.00063782 = 0.8655 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6943 @ 0.0006373 = 4.4248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.0006479 = 0.7775 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.84588, Best ask: 23.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03412, Last trade: 23.84587, 24 hour volume: 30125.82192065, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.89098
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.000644 = 7.245 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21808 @ 0.0006479 = 14.1294 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14492 @ 0.00064981 = 9.417 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3908 @ 0.00064981 = 2.5395 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00064995 = 2.7948 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8103 @ 0.0006506 = 5.2718 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5283 @ 0.000644 = 3.4023 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4106 @ 0.00064299 = 2.6401 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11094 @ 0.00064661 = 7.1735 BTC [+]
jurov: hatefest on #bitcon-otc
jurov: Mircea Popescu, the Bill Gates of Bitcoin. (if billg had porn on microsoft.com)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.96320, Best ask: 23.99677, Bid-ask spread: 0.03357, Last trade: 23.99677, 24 hour volume: 30284.73846546, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.89730
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.99964, Best ask: 24.03327, Bid-ask spread: 0.03363, Last trade: 24.06130, 24 hour volume: 30690.91383549, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.90079
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7606 @ 0.00064456 = 4.9025 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20694 @ 0.00064757 = 13.4008 BTC [+]
pigeons: depends what price you get it for
pigeons: you should take EskimoBob's advice and "be your own whale" to pump up the price some ;)
DeadWeasel: So that would require buying say, 300 shares, than buying at successively higher prices at junks of 100 shares?
DeadWeasel: thus creating a market for a 'rising' asset?
Diablo-D3: might as well start bidding on those asicminer shares then
pigeons: no i mean make a bunch of big bets
jurov: again? mass hysteria ensues :)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.05905, Best ask: 24.08999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03094, Last trade: 24.05904, 24 hour volume: 30755.51651899, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.90272
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.05767, Best ask: 24.09136, Bid-ask spread: 0.03369, Last trade: 24.05768, 24 hour volume: 30812.67850009, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.90315
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14112 @ 0.0006373 = 8.9936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00063714 = 12.2012 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: I'm just teaching myself to program now. It's slow as I have a full time job.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4238 @ 0.00063647 = 2.6974 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1490 @ 0.00064757 = 0.9649 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11067 @ 0.00065011 = 7.1948 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9099 @ 0.00063186 = 5.7493 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5217 @ 0.00063111 = 3.2925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14053 @ 0.0006311 = 8.8688 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2831 @ 0.00063054 = 1.7851 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.21001, Best ask: 24.27700, Bid-ask spread: 0.06699, Last trade: 24.21001, 24 hour volume: 30932.81371951, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.91140
gribble: Error: "bc,covert" is not a valid command.
gribble: 1 BTC = 24.21001 U.S. dollars = 18.0806647 Euros
DeadWeasel: this does not seem stable with such low volume.
DeadWeasel: and it looks like there is .5 BTC bot pushing down on the price....
Bugpowder: yeah doing a great job of pushing it down too
DeadWeasel: I wonder how many SR users are waiting to get to the bank today, after being snowed in all weekend.
DeadWeasel: i know they are out of Oxycotin already. 3 day weekend.
DeadWeasel: i think that's as good as it gets. If porn can create the internet then addicts can create a new currencyu.
mircea_popescu: this entire "sr drives bitcoin" is about as stupid as people thinking cowboy movies drove the us west.
ThickAsThieves: the best part about SR users is they dont care what the echange rate is
DeadWeasel: there is more activity on SR and their forums than any other bitcoin related activity
DeadWeasel: gambling is huge too, but they are more likely to stop at a certain point
mircea_popescu: DeadWeasel activity on a forum is a very poor representation of anything.
DeadWeasel: it is, that's why it's another solid corner of the pyramind
jurov: where does that "if bitcoin goes up,gambling/sd will subside" come from?
DeadWeasel: ThickAsThieves: it also can't be stopped, unless they open every package of mail, which is illegal if it's US POST
DeadWeasel: they're stopping due to a lack of budget. I doubt they'll hire drug dogs to hang out on weekends.
gribble: 1 BTC = 24.26943 U.S. dollars = 18.1142185 Euros
DeadWeasel: Imagine the organization it would take to determine exactly which package is was.
DeadWeasel: let them OD or not, either way, drug issues sort themselves out.
ThickAsThieves: mp, that guy on your link's last post is inquiring about buying a harley for 450btc, maybe he IS a whale
jcpham: yeah i was going to say a sportster
jcpham: you can tack on enough extra to make it not cheap though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00063768 = 7.9391 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 348 @ 0.00064263 = 0.2236 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00609434 = 1.2189 BTC [+]
Chilca: anyone has an inside about BFL preorders?
jcpham: i ride an expatriated romanian mule mostly
ThickAsThieves: info on their forum says that the chips will arrive at bumping facility today or tomorrow
Chilca: Yea, I saw in the forum!, Thanks mircea_popescu
ThickAsThieves: Devices must be in scope of +-10% of advertised performance in order to be accepted as valid.
mircea_popescu: i defy you to deliver any sort of item, no matter what it be, from potatoes or crude oil to combustion engines or lcd monitors
mircea_popescu: production is about doing what you want, not what comes out.
ThickAsThieves: so if their devices all have a bonus speed of 11%, and ship on time, they still failed to meet the qualitifications?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00063083 = 4.5104 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12455 @ 0.00063054 = 7.8534 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6445 @ 0.00062986 = 4.0594 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: anyway, if they deliver by 1st of march they're grossly NOT on time
mircea_popescu: as the things were supposed to come out in november last or something like that.
Diablo-D3: bfl started a YEAR before everyone else
ThickAsThieves: i ordered a couple a month ago, I just wanna own em, not worried if they make the money
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves one angle i think most people fail to grok is that
Diablo-D3: asicminer will fuck over difficulty for everyone else
mircea_popescu: once btc takes over, these fabled early asics will sell at sotheby's
kakobreklaa: last time i checked inaba was making exuses they will likely fail their power req. and lose the bet they made publicly
mircea_popescu: kakobreklaa last time i heard of him he was getting owned by the girl
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: btw, I suggest you bid on more asicminer shares if you plan on making any money
jborkl: SD about to cross 3 million bets
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.20309, Best ask: 24.23694, Bid-ask spread: 0.03385, Last trade: 24.23694, 24 hour volume: 31171.64310858, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.91775
ThickAsThieves: diablo, I might, just a matter of whether I can move money around before the deadline...
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3254 = 0.6508 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if there were a practical way to do it i'd short the entire float.
Diablo-D3: I dont think mircea_popescu realizes how much hash power asicminer will end up having
mircea_popescu: i think he got like .35 or some ungodly thing like that
ThickAsThieves: if you wanna short it, buy that 5000share seat and promote your auction more than Nam
mircea_popescu: no, to short it i'd have to borrow some and sell them.
mircea_popescu: and i wouldn't promote that shit either, it's unconscionable.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064024 = 2.1128 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: asicminer shares should go past 1 btc
ThickAsThieves: also, as far as buying the BFLs I did, like I said, I just wanna own a couple miners, I have a lot of "gizmos"
DeadWeasel: at work, look it up later. glad you won though Diablo-D3
ThickAsThieves: i wanna make sure I understand somehting about how the blockchain works,
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30855 @ 0.00062986 = 19.4343 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00062884 = 7.3574 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4972 @ 0.00062786 = 3.1217 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00062766 = 12.1138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 173 @ 0.00062729 = 0.1085 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00062706 = 0.5957 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: I wish I had the money to buy all of asicminer
ThickAsThieves: so how will the system deal with confirming that many transactions
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves blocks currently can only cointain 1mb of data
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: dude, if I had all of asiicminer
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I'd basically own most of the hashing power out there
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 you get excited too easily. things don't work like they could
DeadWeasel: yup, start sending a fee at that point if want immediate includsion in the blockchain
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I am very unexcitable
gribble: 1 BTC = 24.21231 U.S. dollars = 18.0715853 Euros
mircea_popescu: if input > output the difference is kept by whoever mines the blokc
mircea_popescu: if that difference divided by the tx length is high everyone mining will want to include it in their block
mircea_popescu: if its low nobody would include it unless there's space
mircea_popescu: think like the blocks are train wagons, and the tx are people. the fee is what they pay
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: the auctions are manual, yes
ThickAsThieves: so when the last new bitcoin is mined, miners mine for the fees only?
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: look in the auctions forum, several people are selling their shares
ThickAsThieves: so, say it's 2015 and 50% of the world is using bitcoin
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: friedcat is going to be putting his own exchange up
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: because it kind of already is
ThickAsThieves: i guess what i'm trying to confirm is, that all these charts miners are working on, and trying to predict difficulty are all totally thrown out the window if rapid bitcoin adoption happens
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4944 @ 0.00062706 = 3.1002 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: the "charts" people like that idiot on reddit are working on are bs anyway
mircea_popescu: for so many different reasons it doesn't even matter that adoption would skew
gribble: 1 BTC = 24.28302 U.S. dollars = 18.1243618 Euros
pigeons: "ripples" ripple.com transaction fee currency
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5606 @ 0.00062706 = 3.5153 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4244 @ 0.00062683 = 2.6603 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00064024 = 8.5152 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: how many BTC do you have?
pigeons: Diablo-D3: how small is your dick?
jcpham: i'll sell 500 xrp for 1 btc DeaDTerra
Diablo-D3: how many people do you think have more than 400k?
Diablo-D3: do you think it'd be possible to raise a little over 400k btc to start a datacenter catering to high density computation customers?
Diablo-D3: even if it was done in bonds that pay the equiv of 5% annually for ten years?
mircea_popescu: your 400k would be a very big 4% stake out of all bitcoin. your datacenter would be an inconsequential 0.0001% of all datacenters
mircea_popescu: trades happen if and only if the % of btc you give away
Diablo-D3: yes, but it would have 100-150 racks profiting 10k USD a month
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00064196 = 13.8021 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5902 @ 0.00064263 = 3.7928 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1633 @ 0.00065011 = 1.0616 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 497 @ 0.0006506 = 0.3233 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00065122 = 5.34 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: it'd generate 62.5k bitcoins a month.
iz: ;;calc 400000 * (24 - 14)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00065302 = 5.616 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13070 @ 0.00065318 = 8.5371 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you will eventualyl be able to finance fiat endeavours in btc, but prolly after btc mkt cap passes 1 trillion.
Diablo-D3: DeaDTerra: Im not going to let nefario sink this ship
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: DMC could cause btc to reach $1000
Diablo-D3: DeaDTerra: it never left the dock.
mircea_popescu: for now the deals that make sense to finance in btc are the deals that bring btc.
mircea_popescu: if you made a btc-taking datacenter. problem is the btc paying customers aren't doing more than maybe a few ks worth a year
mircea_popescu: so your mkt cap is probably under 50k btc or something like that.
Bugpowder: wouldn't it make more sense to manage an existing datacenter
mircea_popescu: arguably it'd be a good idea to make a btc-level secure btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6570 @ 0.00064415 = 4.2321 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: somewhere in a free country, with good safety in place
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I would accept btc, btw
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: no, most datacenters are pretty much fucked
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: they arent upgrading to handle customer demands and are massively wasting space
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: the only way to win is to come out of nowhere and eat their lunch
mircea_popescu: the reason they're sloppy is that there's so much govt demand for them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5775 @ 0.00065318 = 3.7721 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: many datacenters are not accepting new customers because they're "full"
Diablo-D3: yet half their rack space is wasted because of mismanagement
DeadWeasel: and capital, and 12 hour work days for the next several years
mircea_popescu: even with all that. they'll be fine, you'll make a little more per sq foot
DeadWeasel: Diablo-D3: i agree with you on the state of the industry.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C210T] 3 @ 0.2192369 = 0.6577 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C220T] 3 @ 0.18744462 = 0.5623 BTC
mircea_popescu: problem is, a datacenter is something a multi-billion company makes. in fact, it's about on the level of building a nuclear plant.
mircea_popescu: heck, if one had any sense they'd build them together.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9231 @ 0.00064415 = 5.9461 BTC [-]
pigeons: much smaller companies than that make datacenters, just as nice or nicer than the big ones, but less capacity
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3969 @ 0.00064189 = 2.5477 BTC [-]
pigeons: everybody wants you to survive a nuclear strike even if you're just making toys
mircea_popescu: im just thinking its so commodified it's probably the case economies of scale rule.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13 BTC [+]
pigeons: but some people (over?)pay just to be "in house. and definately overpay for uptime they dont need
pigeons: i frequently say why the fuck do you think this place will last, you could just build one the next county over where everything is cheaper, the next country over where you can use slaves and pollute, etc
markedathome: has there been some sort of glbse payout today from either glbse or btcsyn?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 205 @ 0.00065318 = 0.1339 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: there's been a lot of bitcoin sindicate drama on the forum tho
markedathome: saw that, but I didn't think that anything was happening from glasswalker's side until tomorrow/wednesday as he was 'away on personal business/attending a wedding' according to last email
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25395 @ 0.00065362 = 16.5987 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 905 @ 0.00064189 = 0.5809 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: for some reason the this is dog meme is really hard on foreigners.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00065516 = 2.3913 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18926 @ 0.00065549 = 12.4058 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4928 @ 0.00065549 = 3.2303 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: The term stands for the standard identification code Pvpskvmybashd Mrsya.
mod6: lol @ this comment on superbowl bitbet: How can the Ravens be such underdogs when they have Capn' Stabbin Ray Lewis, ...
Bugpowder: then he (or his friends) murdered someone outside the club after a SuperBowl in 2000
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.40000, Best ask: 24.41768, Bid-ask spread: 0.01768, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 32455.87760636, 24 hour low: 23.50000, 24 hour high: 24.41769, 24 hour vwap: 23.97896
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 24.4 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17272 @ 0.00065549 = 11.3216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28 @ 0.00065555 = 0.0184 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00064189 = 2.4713 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7638 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3476 @ 0.00064189 = 2.2312 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9714 @ 0.00063776 = 6.1952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7360 @ 0.00063066 = 4.6417 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.19720, Best ask: 24.23107, Bid-ask spread: 0.03387, Last trade: 24.19334, 24 hour volume: 33722.82880541, 24 hour low: 23.54000, 24 hour high: 24.44000, 24 hour vwap: 23.99748
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00064312 = 4.0517 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0249 = 0.0996 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.0249 = 0.2739 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 7707.7138 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 191236.44685 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 7865.8976 bitcoins demanded at or over 23.0 USD, worth 183422.259511 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 16509.353 bitcoins offered at or under 29.5 USD, worth 428037.241778 USD in total.
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.025 = 1 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 17945.695 bitcoins demanded at or over 22.0 USD, worth 409683.330498 USD in total.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3498 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00064312 = 1.7686 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00065555 = 11.2427 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00065176 = 13.4263 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.7644 = 1.5288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00065176 = 0.1304 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17337 @ 0.00064004 = 11.0964 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.76380001 = 1.5276 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7638 = 3.0552 BTC [-]
maximian: looks like havelock needs to add some more s.dice shares
maximian: it's trading high relative to mpex
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.71999000 / 0.74751773 / 0.76500000 (22 shares, 16.44539002 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.62747513 / 0.76500000 (6394 shares, 4012.07597940 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.64105367 / 0.89000000 (10577 shares, 6780.42462184 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6172 @ 0.00065555 = 4.0461 BTC [+]
DeadWeasel: this is where evoorhees comes in and announces the NEXT TRANCHE!
Bugpowder_: they have about 40,000 shares of bid at .0065 and above
maximian: nobody seems to think so…. or the people who do are tapped out
jurov: DeadWeasel this is eerie
truffles: how does btc finance drive teh btc?
truffles: i was going to respond to that article but u seem busy mp
truffles: gee cant i get to complain a lil
truffles: oh i saw somethign about UK making ads to tell the Romanians to stay out cuz UK not so good lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3228 @ 0.00065559 = 2.1162 BTC [+]
truffles: cuz they dont want Romanians and some other country taking the jobs?
jurov: maybe ask in #bitcoin-otc-uk
truffles: how many bitcoin channels are there geez
jurov: some dood insisted they need own channel
jurov: romanians i suppose
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00064286 = 10.2858 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00064004 = 5.3763 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it's funny tho, cause they call them romanians but it's mostly gypsies
truffles: gypsies so hated for no reason
jcpham: expatriated romanian donkey refugess
kakobreklaa: did you hear about the romania, horses and france?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00064004 = 9.0246 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it was funny cause that morning i had horse salami for breakfast
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00064004 = 5.0563 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well, if i ordered chicken curry and got pork curry i'd prolly say something
truffles: horse meat found in 16 EU countries
kakobreklaa: not if it tastes better and you dont know what it is.
mircea_popescu: it'd be pretty out there for me to not know what it is
kakobreklaa: maybe you got pork in your horse salame what do you know
truffles: i hear horse meat is delicious
mircea_popescu: course by now it's industrially produced, they put pork in it etfc.
Lyspooner: mircea_popescu you should take mpex.com away from the midwest photo exchange
mircea_popescu: The Manufacturing Productivity Extension (MPEX) Program
Lyspooner: just email jim@mpex.com (srsly) and give him an offer
Lyspooner: maybe just put your exchange somewhere between "lenses" and "lighting&studio"
mircea_popescu: Cash: BTC 815.51 (majority locked in Bitcoinica liquidation)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8043 @ 0.00064004 = 5.1478 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3907 @ 0.00063496 = 2.4808 BTC [-]
truffles: lets hear how mp's mind work though
mircea_popescu: his short term is made out of accounts he can't collect and items he won't receive.
truffles: how much is polimedia subscription
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.36557, Best ask: 24.39955, Bid-ask spread: 0.03398, Last trade: 24.39955, 24 hour volume: 34302.41282646, 24 hour low: 23.54000, 24 hour high: 24.47002, 24 hour vwap: 24.01793
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00063787 = 7.3036 BTC [+]
Lyspooner: anyone have experience buying bitcoins on kapiton.se?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6773 @ 0.00063787 = 4.3203 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 508 @ 0.00063496 = 0.3226 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: i got 1000 and my ip change and mircea_popescu is refusing customer support :(
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7260 @ 0.0006341 = 4.6036 BTC [-]
jcpham: can i get a reach around?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8324 @ 0.00064027 = 5.3296 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: instead I will just hack the paywall like i have been doing
truffles: angry mobs are just waiting around the corner if this isnt sorted!
Lyspooner: it seems like the options expiring next month have a low open interest. go spend some btc on marketing
truffles: internet id is how they roll over there?
mircea_popescu: well, the way trilema credits work is you can have them by pw or by ip
mircea_popescu: if you have them by ip and lose the ip you lose the credits.
mircea_popescu: if you have them by pw and lose the pw you lose the credits.
truffles: no backups or recovery methods??
pigeons: buy 100 btc worth and take him to rota
Lyspooner: start listing quarterly options... your bot can handle longer-dated options
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner there's zero uptake of the march ones as it is
mircea_popescu: truffles so if shit happens then why are we discussing it ?
truffles: customer needs help sorting his shit
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner perhaps, but until it is resolved i see little point in adding even longer terms
truffles: unhappy customer is not good for business!
mircea_popescu: i would much rather the consumer type customer dies hungry
Lyspooner: mircea_popescu, the miners need to hedge longer exposure than two months, especially when dealing with asic dealers
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner the miners are roughly too clueless to comprehend x.idiff and why they can't run without them
mircea_popescu: in spite of ample marketing effort directed at their dumbass.
truffles: lets all throw rotten tomatoes at mp
truffles: i think im here approaching a week now
mircea_popescu: what it does is two things : it fucks governments so they can no longer finance welfarism
mircea_popescu: and it fucks over people so they can no longer expect others solve their shit for them
truffles: welfare is good for those who are disabled
mircea_popescu: i am not trying to coopt your cooperation. i'm just telling you how it is.
truffles: but the ppl who like solving solve
jborkl: Tell that to all the taxes I pay and I don't get shit back - ever
truffles: nobody thinks about the handicapers
Lyspooner: however, in the miners' defense, i don't think there is much paper interest on the other side of the transaction
mircea_popescu: there's plenty of speculative money on mpex, and they're not putting the orders in the book anyway
truffles: oh look another trilema linkey
Lyspooner: i think that you are not going to be successful at anything truffles, no matter by what standard you measure things
truffles: i havent found a really reliable proxy server for free so meh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00063265 = 3.1 BTC [-]
truffles: he cant just say that and leave
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5364 @ 0.00063066 = 3.3829 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00063046 = 3.5621 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 686 @ 0.00062858 = 0.4312 BTC [-]
truffles: if there's anything holding me back its procrastination
truffles: def gonna stalk that guy damit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5423 @ 0.00062858 = 3.4088 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3177 @ 0.00062683 = 1.9914 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.758 = 7.58 BTC [-]