assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 75 @ 0.0099 = 0.7425 BTC [-]
Namworld: His thread is huge, might have missed it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1721 @ 0.0006897 = 1.187 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5542 @ 0.00068978 = 3.8228 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3837 @ 0.00068979 = 2.6467 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1196 @ 0.00619998 = 7.4152 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.02102, Best ask: 22.19800, Bid-ask spread: 0.17698, Last trade: 22.02102, 24 hour volume: 63404.43122740, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.21999, 24 hour vwap: 21.57193
Bugpowder: it has been climbing linearly $0.35 day for 23 days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068383 = 2.9548 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15813 @ 0.0006835 = 10.8082 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6348 @ 0.00068218 = 4.3305 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9534 @ 0.00067904 = 6.474 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6354 @ 0.00067903 = 4.3146 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067914 = 2.9346 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4079 @ 0.00067904 = 2.7698 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.63999999 = 4.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1540 @ 0.00067904 = 1.0457 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 225 @ 0.0062 = 1.395 BTC [+]
Bowjob: earlier you said dice is in trouble. what do yo umean by that
mircea_popescu: apparently mpoe-pr offered some dood 10 btc for sharpie in pooper pic ?!
jcpham: i have a db of ass pics
jcpham: lemme see if I can match it up
Namworld: I learned to not click dtng links
mircea_popescu: im gone for half a day, you never know what i find when i'm back
jurov: i know that feeling but today seems pretty uneventful
jurov: and s.dice tranche got postponed too
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.0231 = 0.3234 BTC [-]
Bowjob: so if the tranch is delayed then the 30 day rule kicks in?
Bowjob: I feel we got saturated a bit, no one is eating dat wall
Bugpowder: but it might have come back as a split
Bugpowder: but didn't look like it given how they appeared
Bugpowder: and thier 1 satoshi difference pricing
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00590933 / 0.00619936 / 0.0064 (500087 shares, 3,100.22 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00578926 / 0.007395 (3563078 shares, 20,627.61 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00533866 / 0.0075 (8223498 shares, 43,902.48 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00619998 = 1.86 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3087 @ 0.00619998 = 19.1393 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1962 @ 0.00067931 = 1.3328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9838 @ 0.00067903 = 6.6803 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4 @ 0.00068978 = 0.0028 BTC [+]
Bowjob: hey mp, erik said the other tranches are postponed or canned indefinately
Bowjob: so the 30 day rule applies now?
mircea_popescu: the 30 day rule applies to the original ipo described in the contract
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00068978 = 1.0347 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00067903 = 8.3181 BTC [-]
assbot: I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
assbot: [BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: -- / -- / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.00002, Best ask: 22.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09998, Last trade: 22.10000, 24 hour volume: 63605.98111189, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.21999, 24 hour vwap: 21.59327
pigeons: ok so there is only avalons
pigeons: yeah there isn't any difference between 22 and 26
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2817 @ 0.00068978 = 1.9431 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4583 @ 0.00068978 = 3.1613 BTC [+]
pigeons: and when does avalon sell more units?
Namworld: You can see the drop after reward halving for december
Namworld: and now it's climbing up just as fast
pigeons: yeah that's a "nice" valuation there
jurov: maybe you remember me raving how ugly their website was
jurov: that was before mpex
jurov: oh i didn't meant it that way, sry
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068944 = 2.9791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5417 @ 0.00068978 = 3.7365 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2962 @ 0.00068979 = 2.0432 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.0006791 = 2.6824 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067854 / 0.00069172 / 0.0007 (3255366 shares, 2,251.80 BTC), 7D: 0.00064676 / 0.00068225 / 0.0007 (17909130 shares, 12,218.56 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066424 / 0.0007 (61845920 shares, 41,080.77 BTC)
assbot: [BTCT:S.DICE-PT] 1D: 0.0061 / 0.0062 / 0.0062 (330 shares, 2.0 BTC), 7D: 0.0061 / 0.01 / 0.0062 (4600 shares, 28.5 BTC), 30D: 0.0061 / 0.01 / 0.0062 (4600 shares, 28.5 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 371 @ 0.0006791 = 0.2519 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067904 = 2.9341 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5240 @ 0.00067903 = 3.5581 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.11001, Best ask: 22.18999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 22.18999, 24 hour volume: 63835.22357796, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.21999, 24 hour vwap: 21.61214
jurov: it's stabilizing at 22?
Namworld: I've priced my S.DICE pass-through at 0.0059 if that interests anyone.
jurov: lol, it's like 3hrs
jurov: MP gonna close mpex and point to that thread as culprit
mircea_popescu: jurov lol they seriously don't see that angle, i'm sure. I could just go "sorry, X redditor stole all the moneyz. Bye"
Namworld: Do they plan to pay for whole airplane tickets to Romania? A classic crowbar and american fist kind of "hacking"?
mircea_popescu: maybe they get free sex reassignment surgery with that trip.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068206 = 2.9472 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2094 @ 0.00068224 = 1.4286 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.63999999 = 10.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068209 = 2.9473 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10137 @ 0.00068224 = 6.9159 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7321 @ 0.00068908 = 5.0448 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.93 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 10 @ 0.925 = 9.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 12.122 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 12.12 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.26826, Best ask: 22.35500, Bid-ask spread: 0.08674, Last trade: 22.35500, 24 hour volume: 61512.56044097, 24 hour low: 20.87000, 24 hour high: 22.35500, 24 hour vwap: 21.67908
gribble: There are currently 18351.727 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 432045.110806 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 30640.908 bitcoins demanded at or over 20.0 USD, worth 641566.791021 USD in total.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067907 = 2.9343 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20131 @ 0.00067903 = 13.6696 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: at some point, these coins start really being worth a lot of money.
Namworld: But what happened since last month that would create such huge demand?
Bowjob: could be a whale charging up their stash to play more dice
Bowjob: honestly this rally is scaring my
error4733: i was off for 24h, how many drama ?
Bowjob: the bears getting slaughtered, ect
Bowjob: bears getting slaughtered
Bowjob: and me crying not buying btc when they were 17
error4733: no worries, just wait for the next Mtgox hack
Bowjob: we are heading for the moon
Bowjob: you ssaid earlier, dice could be in trouble
Bowjob: oh, so its not about the volume?
Bowjob: its muddy, really. it doesnt pay taxes, it deals with bitcoin
Bugpowder: of the near term prospects for S.DICE?
Namworld: What country is S.DICE in? None?
Bowjob: we will stay at below 7ish, for a while now, the extra 3 million shares satisfied the market and some people are hoping to cash out quick
Bowjob: the volume that we saw last month was largely due to just a handful of whales. i want volume from everyone
Bowjob: seems the whales have stopped for now.. similar to what happened early in jan
Bowjob: so its just that 1 guy that pumped the price
Bugpowder: there is something different this time
Bugpowder: that's an exercise for the reader ;-)
Bowjob: so near term prospects, sellers are a bit screwed
Bowjob: this btc rally isn't helping
Bowjob: I'm less inclined to play dice due to this rally, opposite to what eric said. but thats just me
Bowjob: im sure theres a few bored millionaires out there, we need to reach them.
Bowjob: also, advertise on rkoi. :)
Bowjob: we need people like those
Bowjob: anyone here actually report their bitcoin earnings to govt
error4733: <Namworld> What country is S.DICE in? None? Irland
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067981 = 2.9375 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3746 @ 0.00067984 = 2.5467 BTC [+]
error4733: for the main page, but i dunno for the script. sensitive info imo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00619998 = 15.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.339 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067979 = 2.9374 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9054 @ 0.00067984 = 6.1553 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00068336 = 7.4145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00068832 = 7.5371 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2007 @ 0.00068908 = 1.383 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14801 @ 0.00068908 = 10.1991 BTC [+]
jborkl: Mp, if you are here. Mind pushing my deposit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067957 = 2.9364 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13035 @ 0.00067943 = 8.8564 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00067943 = 10.2594 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.33430, Best ask: 22.42005, Bid-ask spread: 0.08575, Last trade: 22.30101, 24 hour volume: 60559.49891265, 24 hour low: 20.87000, 24 hour high: 22.49989, 24 hour vwap: 21.76940
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.0062 = 0.0248 BTC [+]
Bowjob: well we are going to the moob
Bowjob: litecoin parity.. mhmmm
Bowjob: 220 dollars worth for a lifetime of shame
Bowjob: well it could be a fortune..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068613 = 2.9648 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5179 @ 0.00068584 = 3.552 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.46198, Best ask: 22.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03802, Last trade: 22.46198, 24 hour volume: 69929.36719655, 24 hour low: 21.25000, 24 hour high: 22.70000, 24 hour vwap: 22.07695
Chaang-Noi: anyone here a member of the bitcoin foundation?
sgornick: Chaang-Noi: Just member? Ya, I am.
BitHub: What are the benefits of becoming a foundation member?
BitHub: i just purchased some shares in some btc companies :)
Chaang-Noi: i would like to know about the forum on the foundation, is it helpful or dead? thanks
Chaang-Noi: hi Eskimobob yeah been away but been working:)
sgornick: I'm not too active on it but it has topics that have a fair amount of discussion and others that get either replies like "don't know" , etc.
sgornick: Chaang-Noi: But there are some conversations there that don't occur elsewhere so I make sure to check in on it ... something I'm past due on doing.
Chaang-Noi: i have sent over 100 btc on the other forum but not sure if i should pay the 2.5 for the other forum...
sgornick: (especially since I accepted the invite to be a mod)
Chaang-Noi: well if i join ill send you a message and see how long it takes you to respond :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00068584 = 4.3894 BTC [-]
gigavps: BFL receives the chips into the bumping facility on monday
gigavps: they are only 4 months late, what's another couple weeks
Chaang-Noi: as long as they are more or less first it does not really matter
Chaang-Noi: well it does matter, but huge damage wont be done.
gigavps: mircea_popescu, we already know your opinions, no need to repeat yourself
Chaang-Noi: yeah, but i dont really count 2 60 ghs asics as much of anything, it wont make a dent in profitability
gigavps: mircea_popescu, i have employees
gigavps: mircea_popescu, i have Gigaminers
mircea_popescu: gigavps so far you have debts. stop inflating yourself i won't have to slap you back into shape.
Chaang-Noi: yeah, the chinese might make a dent, might not. we will see
gigavps: mircea_popescu, i'm sorry you can't see past your own nose
gigavps: mircea_popescu, i wish you knew what you were talking about
gigavps: but it ok, i'll excuse your ignorance
mircea_popescu: tell you what. excuse my ignorance in silence i'll excuse your scammy existence.
mircea_popescu: dumbass needs to learn when it's time to say sorry and stfu.
Chaang-Noi: mircea, what do you have aginst giga? iv been away so i really dont know what is going on.
gigavps: i think mircea_popescu isn't feeling well today
Chaang-Noi: well, if he is going to make an attack he should at least back it up if asked about it...
Chaang-Noi: maybe he is just upset at bfl and is taking it out on you? i jumped in when bfl was brought up...
Chaang-Noi: the new btc high today was pretty nice to see
Chaang-Noi: what the hell happened to #bitcoin-watch it now has transactions not price quotes???
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.63999999 = 1.92 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: ahh, assbat is still alive i see, but damn, not much trading...
ThickAsThieves: been slow this week because SDICE releases 3mil more shares
Chaang-Noi: sdice has been more popular than i expected, however i still expect tears before this is over
gigavps: promoters of gambling with btc will probably go to jail
gigavps: the US doesn't care where you are
gigavps: any business strategy that does not include government compliance will end in failure
gigavps: maybe mircea_popescu should add that to his list of btc business starting tips
ThickAsThieves: that works on the premise that bitcoin is first classified as illegal
gigavps: any movement of value will eventually be classified and regulated
ThickAsThieves: assumes the gov cares more about gambling bitcoin, than those who exchange it for fiat
Chaang-Noi: the govt has gone hard core after people gambling in the usa
Chaang-Noi: they ahve even redirected planes into the usa to arrest people
Chaang-Noi: the person on that flight was not american, was not going to the usa, and did not ahve a company in the usa
gigavps: the US gov has gone after internet gambling businesses the world over
Chaang-Noi: he is in a usa jail for atleast 10 years
pigeons: yeah a guy just went to jail the other week for writing gambling software for a country where it is legal
Chaang-Noi: also look forward to the link :/ it is sad really, what if the govt goes this hard core aginst btc as it does gambling in other countires...
ThickAsThieves: oh yeah, and dont forget their little Silk Road problem
gigavps: pigeons, thanks for the link
pigeons: yeah it was kind of big news cause it kind of steps over a new line
Chaang-Noi: silk road will be ahrd to catch, however the bitcoin foundation wont :/
gigavps: as you can see from that article, you don't even need to be the one who uses the software for gambling!
gigavps: fireduck could be put in jail just for writing sdice
Chaang-Noi: i wonder if anyone who holds a btc that was onces used for gambling will have to go to jail :/
gigavps: erik could be put in jail just for promoting sdice
gigavps: and people wonder why i have a claims process
pigeons: give me your bitcoins and they've give you amnesty
Chaang-Noi: you know they will notice a site that made over a million in its first year :/
ThickAsThieves: it's all possible, i just think they will prioritize attacking other aspects of bitcoin
gigavps: ThickAsThieves, it doesn't matter, i bet we'll soon see interpretations of the law such that it won't matter what you are gambling
gigavps: could be bitcoins, dollars, amazon coins, whatever
Chaang-Noi: yeah i dont know... it will be intersting, i hope the us govt ignores it, buit i bet they wont forever
ThickAsThieves: i'm sure they arent ignoring it, the question is how will they appraoch it all
DeadWeasel: considering their tendency to ignore real problems and go after non-issues makes me think it will happen
ThickAsThieves: and then each country uses their own cryptocurrency or such
Chaang-Noi: i would have said they could not do much about gambling in other countires as well but....
ThickAsThieves: then they can keep control be sheer popularity over btc
BitHub: where can i buy some ASICMINER shares?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8591 @ 0.00068861 = 5.9158 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: if they had their own coin (us gov) they could strictly manage taxes, etc
ThickAsThieves: that would put laws regarding crypto currencies on the book, and then they could illegalize btc
pigeons: they can do it with this one
pigeons: its a public ledger, they can manage taxes etc as you say
gigavps: ThickAsThieves, i don't think btc would be made illegal
Chaang-Noi: anyone want to buy my claim for 4,100 asic miner shares? :)
DeadWeasel: this guy encrypted his home folder with 100BTC in wallet, now about his password: [09:16] <lolcat> jrib: Uhm, I figured Id probably never need it
DeadWeasel: i was trying to help him last night, but there is no help to be had.
DeadWeasel: he literally has NO CLUE what it was, thought he was entering noise or something.
DeadWeasel: but he will NEVER make that mistake again, i hope
Chaang-Noi: yeah... btc is not ready for the masses :(
imsaguy: <DeadWeasel> he literally has NO CLUE what it was, thought he was entering noise or something. << I'm calling BS. When you put in passwords today, you have to confirm it.
imsaguy: Random noise won't require you to type it exactly the same twice.
imsaguy: oh right, people on irc don't lie.
pigeons: "I reserve the right to spend raised funds on anything that I feel like be that
pigeons: gambling on LTC Arcade or playing games, Litecoin gaming and simply a flutter down
Chaang-Noi: yeah, im not sure why that is even listed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 25072 @ 0.00614999 = 154.1925 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 9928 @ 0.00615 = 61.0572 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 350 @ 0.635 = 222.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 72 @ 0.00615 = 0.4428 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6928 @ 0.00619997 = 42.9534 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 70 @ 0.635 = 44.45 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: yeah, what is this penny bot i have heard of?
JWU_42: Holy Moses - a Goat sighting
DeadWeasel: bot that sells .01 BTC regularly, either above or below the current price, to put upward or downward pressure on the market price
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00069298 = 14.8991 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069297 = 2.9943 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6887 @ 0.00069455 = 4.7834 BTC [+]
DeadWeasel: is it unethical to install a mouse mover on my work machine while I'm workng from home during this snowpacalypse?
topace: i built one of those out of lego, back in the day... there was ad companies that you installed the ads on your homepage, and as long as you were using the computer you got paid
DeadWeasel: i'm mean,i'm just a monkey QA tester. so I'm essentially working
topace: err not your home page, right abvoe the start menu on windows
DeadWeasel: Like homer with the that pecking bird toy thing
topace: used to pull in like $50/month from it
topace: on university student budget, thats a lot of beer!
DeadWeasel: getting sierra charts working in wine on 64bit nix is annoying me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 663 @ 0.00069455 = 0.4605 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069461 = 3.4731 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10887 @ 0.00069462 = 7.5623 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45 @ 0.00069 = 0.0311 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00068973 = 3.0693 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2648 @ 0.00068861 = 1.8234 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 512 @ 0.00068861 = 0.3526 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068585 = 2.9636 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12708 @ 0.00068584 = 8.7157 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069431 = 3.0001 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4229 @ 0.00069462 = 2.9375 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.002 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if anyone knows chiense please give that a look let me know if anything is broken
jcpham: mircea_popescu: it's in chinese
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068609 = 2.9646 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12757 @ 0.00068584 = 8.7493 BTC [-]
Chilca: mircea_popescu: do you want me to do the FAQ in spanish?
Chilca: mircea_popescu: I'll try to have it for monday.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.63999999 = 3.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 5 @ 0.002 = 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8485 @ 0.00619997 = 52.6067 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1515 @ 0.00619998 = 9.393 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 72 @ 0.63999999 = 46.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 28 @ 0.635 = 17.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00619998 = 61.9998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 32 @ 0.635 = 20.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.626 = 18.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.62500001 = 12.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.625 = 5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.62 = 6.2 BTC [-]
topace: yea :) its the easiest way to grow the size of sdice on havelock
topace: wait for bids, then fill them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068762 = 2.9712 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35679 @ 0.0006877 = 24.5364 BTC [+]
topace: and i make a few btc off the arb :)
topace: but hey, its a manual process
topace: though i suppose i could bot it up
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.06835702 = 68.357 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P210T] 750 @ 0.08441671 = 63.3125 BTC [-]
topace: havelock is growing quickly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00619997 = 6.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 9000 @ 0.00619998 = 55.7998 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: even if manual it's not really so bad, one command line sort of thing
topace: not making much off the arb now though on these ones... but its worth it just to move it over
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.62000001 = 4.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 93 @ 0.62 = 57.66 BTC [-]
topace: i still have 30000 bids on havelock at 0.62
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00619998 = 61.9998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 100 @ 0.62 = 62 BTC [-]
topace: keeps the prices pretty much in sync too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00619998 = 61.9998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 100 @ 0.62 = 62 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.61000000 / 0.63021172 / 0.63999999 (1058 shares, 666.76399880 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.64791661 / 0.88000000 (6816 shares, 4416.19958045 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.63097449 / 0.89000000 (10432 shares, 6582.32583140 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5794 @ 0.0006877 = 3.9845 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068597 = 2.9641 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16132 @ 0.00068584 = 11.064 BTC [-]
topace: mircea_popescu: process my deposit please?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00619998 = 30.9999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.63 = 14.49 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.621 = 9.936 BTC [-]
Anduck: mpex being worth more than mtgox???
Anduck: i think glbse was worth more than mpex !
Anduck: right, mircea_popescu?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6300 @ 0.00619998 = 39.0599 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3124 @ 0.00068584 = 2.1426 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00068575 = 6.0346 BTC [-]
Anduck: i were reading some oldish topic on btctalk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1112 @ 0.00067997 = 0.7561 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067966 = 6.7966 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1414 @ 0.00067965 = 0.961 BTC [-]
BitHub: i'm trying bitfunder atm
Anduck: mpex seems to be ok still
Anduck: when colored coin system comes out it'll all be fixed
BitHub: can i ask you guys something? would you guys invest in rastapool mining?
Anduck: but no i wouldnt even if i had heard of it
BitHub: i'm guessing he didn't get any avalons
BitHub: but he does have shares in the "ASICMINER"
ThickAsThieves: shares will plummet if they dont get ASICS in the first week they hit hard
ThickAsThieves: which means you'd be stuick in the stock til rasta invested enough to be on track and got his deliveries
BitHub: i wish i could buy some ASICMINING shares myself
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1127 @ 0.0006877 = 0.775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069461 = 3.0014 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9459 @ 0.00069462 = 6.5704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13271 @ 0.00069523 = 9.2264 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: they have some for bid in a forum thread somewhere i think
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.62 = 3.1 BTC [-]
BitHub: true, yeah thinking to use mpex or not
BitHub: hope they dont get closed down
leotreasure: i'm checking it out with lawyer in Australia
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 51 @ 0.0098 = 0.4998 BTC [-]
leotreasure: just registered the domain bitcoin-legal.org
mircea_popescu: <Anduck> i think glbse was worth more than mpex ! << no.
mircea_popescu: glbse was worth something between nothing and 3% of mpex.
mircea_popescu: it's all in there. bitcoin is exactly what wow gold is.
jurov: i'm *so* done with bitvps
jurov: if anyone asks about coinbr, they messed it up again
leotreasure: thanks mircea_popescu will read it tomorrow it's nearly 5 in the morning now :)
iz: mircea_popescu: what if bitcoin is considered a foreign currency?
iz: by those interpreting section 1 of the securities act of 1933
iz: doesn't foreign just mean "not domestic"?
iz: or does it need to be a specific foreign country?
mircea_popescu: a foreign currency is the currency of a definite foreign power.
iz: oh, well that answers that then
BitHub: when will bitcoin-legal.org be ready :)
jurov: mircea_popescu my vps is completely inaccessible again
jurov: yes. was thinking i'll give them a chance
leotreasure: actually - the lawyer is calling me on monday so depending on how helpful they are - may have some solid info to put there by end of week
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 333 @ 0.00067985 = 0.2264 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2367 @ 0.00067984 = 1.6092 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1954 @ 0.00067984 = 1.3284 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067983 = 3.3992 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96 @ 0.00067976 = 0.0653 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067983 = 6.7983 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00619997 = 3.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068003 = 2.9384 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6726 @ 0.00067976 = 4.5721 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 653 @ 0.00067965 = 0.4438 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068978 = 2.9805 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068994 = 3.4497 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00068995 = 2.9668 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00069521 = 2.0856 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1829 @ 0.00069523 = 1.2716 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00069608 = 2.4015 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: very impressive price action in the face of stiff overhead resistance
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.46002, Best ask: 22.61999, Bid-ask spread: 0.15997, Last trade: 22.46001, 24 hour volume: 52723.05584513, 24 hour low: 21.75001, 24 hour high: 22.70000, 24 hour vwap: 22.30134
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.621 = 6.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1654 @ 0.00067978 = 1.1244 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3346 @ 0.00067977 = 2.2745 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1852 @ 0.00618074 = 11.4467 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00615002 = 3.075 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00615001 = 6.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00611577 = 5.5042 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00600003 = 6.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0059043 = 5.9043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00584205 = 12.2683 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2356 @ 0.004321 = 10.1803 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: that you will get filled within 1 week at .0042
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.004321 / 0.00614105 / 0.00619999 (141427 shares, 868.51 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00577226 / 0.007395 (3623200 shares, 20,914.06 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00536784 / 0.0075 (8137912 shares, 43,683.08 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067978 = 3.3989 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 975 @ 0.00067977 = 0.6628 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067966 = 6.7966 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11985 @ 0.00067965 = 8.1456 BTC [-]
jborkl: Volume on SD is insane right now, large bets on low odds also
Bugpowder: well it will be interesting to see when the next block hits
Bugpowder: cause SD has been dead for a few days
Bugpowder: I wonder if there are new whale addresses then
jborkl: The volume seems high to me, I have had to wait a long time to get transactions into a block
maximian: bugpowder: s.dice bets? like, today?
jborkl: 66btc and 130 btc on 6%
jborkl: there have been a bunch going through like that
Bugpowder: 1BTC is going to SDice address and the rest is going back to the same sending address
Bugpowder: as far as I can tell, this address is doing most of that betting and is not related to the eight known addresses used by the big whale.
Bugpowder: Also.... the whale is basically out of coins.
Bugpowder: 50% of price gain is due to whale reloading
ThickAsThieves: you know what would be nice, if someone hosted the report that Dooglus makes every day as an on-the-fly web page taht can be refreshed
Bugpowder: easier to make money if you knowledge is less accessible
Bugpowder: make your own google doc that pulls the data
ThickAsThieves: i could learn i guess, I actually asked dooglus to help me figure it out
Bugpowder: took me 10 minutes of google searching to figure out how to do it. Not my area of expertise either.
swhitt: it's not too hard, the armory dude released his original source
swhitt: did dooglus release his modifications?
swhitt: is there still a bot doing a doublespend attack on sdice failed bets?
swhitt: adding a NOOP to the end of a transaction that was a losing bet
swhitt: changing the txid without having to resign the transaction
swhitt: it does fail, sdice ignores txns with inputs that it already saw in bets
swhitt: it was annoying though - I was messing around with the blockchain.info api by spending 0.01 on sdice; about half the time after I'd lose I'd see a doublespend show up in my wallet
swhitt: and then going to the address on blockchain.info would show a warning "THIS ADDRESS HAS ATTEMPTED TO SEND DOUBLESPENDING TRANSACTIONS. USE CAUTION WHEN RECEIVING MONEY FROM THIS ACCOUNT"
swhitt: paraphrased but roughly that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11654 @ 0.00068862 = 8.0252 BTC [+]
swhitt: wtf is up with s.dice market depth
swhitt: the spread is almost .0019
swhitt: what do the spreads look like elsewhere?
Bugpowder: there are over 3 million shares bid and 5 million asks.
Bugpowder: there is just a disagreement on value right now :-
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068929 = 2.9784 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1929 @ 0.00068957 = 1.3302 BTC [+]
swhitt: a few people made a lot of money
jurov: yea just a few kilo-mugs
mircea_popescu: swhitt depends. if you coutn appreciation then people made something like 20-30k btc
swhitt: mircea_popescu: yeah, I meant single holders
swhitt: the whales were grabbing 100-250k shares in the first two tranches right?
mircea_popescu: there were blocks as large as i think 2-3 mn going at once
mircea_popescu: but what do you mean single holders ? whales are single too, i'd hope
swhitt: It was kind of hard to digest in the channel
swhitt: is there a feed of current trades somewhere else?
swhitt: and historical data too
jurov: in FAQ there's RSS feed
jurov: and historical data up to 1 mn ago can be got from live.coinbr.com
jurov: (I don't advertise it, but from js sources is obvoius how)
swhitt: yeah I saw those, but I should be keeping my own records if I want day-week long data
swhitt: i wonder how often s.dice runs out of confirmed coins for payouts
swhitt: in their reserve accts
swhitt: it seems to have to wait for the next block fairly often even when playing with aged coin and a larger-than-required txn fee
jurov: swhitt you mean sdice issues the txs only after new block appears?
swhitt: most of the time it's incredibly fast
swhitt: unless your inputs aren't confirmed or you don't pay a large enough transaction fee
swhitt: sometimes it won't process any transaction at all until the bet is confirmed
jurov: hm, that's possible
gribble: namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 hours, 35 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <Namworld> Eh
swhitt: it seems more probable if I bet 5 btc than if I bet .1 btc though
jurov: they had to tighten their anti-dblspend measures
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068939 = 2.9789 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17633 @ 0.00068957 = 12.1592 BTC [+]
swhitt: I wonder if it's a result of anti-fraud heuristics or something else
mircea_popescu: how is it that every two bit scammer and scammer wananbe is so quick to declare mpex bad in some way/attack me personally ?
mircea_popescu: don't they realise that by now it's so typical they might as well declare themselves scammers ?
jurov: uhm..you have to unfold my coinbr comment below it to see it... if anyone has SE account, pls upvode
thestringpuller: why give them any attention? your time is best served elsewhere
jurov: ^ notice Best Answer
jurov: we're surrounded by trauma survivors
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069574 = 3.4787 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63 @ 0.00069608 = 0.0439 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23150 @ 0.00069251 = 16.0316 BTC [-]
Namworld: 7 days from forum time of op post, 24h extension from last bid
Namworld: February 04, 2013, 12:45:15 AM I see. It's now 04:43:42 PM
Namworld: yeah, it's a week auction, with extensions
Namworld: So if someone is outbid, they have time to come back
Namworld: Cheap asic boards/electricity, chinese manufacturer, mining for itself + selling ASIC boards?
mircea_popescu: i mean ok, they sold for .1, were mostly worthless, now they've recouped most of their origianl value
wao: have someone experience with avalon?
Namworld: If they keep rolling out enough for 1/4th of the total hashing, would get them 36 block per day
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069573 = 3.4787 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069607 = 3.0077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1487 @ 0.00069608 = 1.0351 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069608 = 6.9608 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15090 @ 0.00069609 = 10.504 BTC [+]
Namworld: that would take them 166 days to mine 6k blocks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11129 @ 0.00069656 = 7.752 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2073 @ 0.00069897 = 1.449 BTC [+]
Namworld: yeah. If they roll enough ASICs to keep 1/4th of hashing
wao: and what are that .numbers for?
wao: like devda.ch is doing?
Bugpowder: 6 months with 1/3 the network power = 201600 coins
Namworld: Mircea, they have 800 boards for 10-12 TH and plan 6x more soon
wao: I just planning SC single from BF
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder so iyo a correct discount value of 6 months with 1/3 the network power is 160k ?
wao: but I'm still not sure
Bugpowder: people are not rational with mining
mircea_popescu: instead of obeying mpoe-pr, getting into the wot and working their ass off
mircea_popescu: they are independant freemen on the land sovereign citizens
Bugpowder: I liked being in the club too but my apartments smelled of PCB then
Bugpowder: actually probably about the 7th or 8th best decision of my life.
jurov: both this and OP very good food for thoughts, thanks!
jurov: i should make coinbr db public, too...
jurov: maybe it wouldn't necessary to encrypt it , too. just use substring or hash of everyone's btc addy
swhitt: I have to pay to access that article now
jurov: got better idea - use sha1(btc_addy+mpsic) : balance
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00069388 = 7.3204 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3301 @ 0.0006926 = 2.2863 BTC [-]
topace: havelock investments API now available :)
topace: not complete yet, but its a start
topace: to weet peoples appetite
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 537 @ 0.00069897 = 0.3753 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00069898 = 10.4847 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10063 @ 0.00069956 = 7.0397 BTC [+]
jurov: just i'm at a loss how to explain whole concept to anone else
jurov: i'm going into bit of a coworking
jurov: the guys are really nice, but... seems i'll stay alone with anything mpex-related
Ukto: [13:00] <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2356 @ 0.004321 = 10.1803 BTC [-] wonder why that doesnt show on coinbr's graph
jurov: hrm looks like it died
jurov: cause of the bitvps snafu...i'll replenish the db from other machine
jurov: lol they just chose to cut the fiber or whatever exactly when i wanted to demo coinbr
Ukto: what bitvps snafu ? i miss something?
jurov: cogent said someone cut their cable or the like
Ukto: bvps only has one upstream? 0,o
jurov: the one that serviced bitvps zurich dc
jurov: yea, they didn't reply to my mention of backup connectivity
Namworld: Well if you're comparing them to the band...
jurov: if i won't find anything decent 15ms from here, most likely i'll buy 30mbit to my flat and run whole thing straight fom here
jurov: for that there will be that public db :D
jurov: but i believe february earnings will allow me to get serious solution... it looks i already made more than whole january so far
jurov: btw namworld, you didn't realize i'm speaking of your company's performance here.. don't you have any comment?
DeadWeasel: just dumped the last few hundred of my .0055s
DeadWeasel: haha, bitfunder s.dice doens't look so hot now.
evoorhees: I'm thinking of leaving the 1m tranche up for another 24 hrs, then removing it completely since the market doesn't seem to want it
jcpham: i do not gamble so i have no opinion
Bowjob: erik, i have an idea. why dont we advertise on rich kids of instagram? :3
Ukto: I noticed they re-post images from time to time
Bowjob: huh? the only re post they did was the recap from last year
Bowjob: otherwise they put new pics
ThickAsThieves: evoor: announce a re-price date and time for the unsold mil at .0044 again :)
Bowjob: yeah it was a bad idea to sell at 0.44
Bowjob: someone quickl.y cashed out
Bowjob: im sure that was not your intention
Namworld: evoorhees, I'd say just leave the slice and put the 2 others higher and leave them there.
maximian: evoorhees: yes to removing the 1M tranche
ThickAsThieves: i dont know if the low price was the problem, so much as announcing the next tranches would be higher
maximian: put the tranche at 0.0075 or higher
Bowjob: you actually sent rich kids of instagram an email?
evoorhees: I think I'll announce this one will be up for another 24 hrs, then gone indeffinitely
Bugpowder: 15HJgkvj6roZQvNRC3pUJNKP2YgfEuD8wo
Bugpowder: 1A3z7M6GhpUejQ5eqgSyjVWRuezeepdKKV
maximian: evoorhees: that's great! it might stimulate some buying action
Bugpowder: 1B5h9sf6xNLYGa3NBk48hwYbxyNZ22PRJk
Bowjob: this higher price is killing me
Bugpowder: 1DBH7Xum2re7LXd8YNSe1uRznttsqeMXGK
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00069261 = 0.4848 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: 1EP4rM8hLZCRSWPNZDWJp9zdvmoWYkkgbQ
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1020 @ 0.0006926 = 0.7065 BTC [-]
Bowjob: so whatever happened to pirate dude
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3043 @ 0.00069252 = 2.1073 BTC [-]