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Namworld: 1% for the month
Bugpowder: lol
mircea_popescu: buncha 1200 wins too
Namworld: Could still go up or down
Bugpowder: Since Dooglases update
Bugpowder: which was already sdice catching up
Bugpowder: I calculate 10,000BTC profit
Bugpowder: additional
mircea_popescu: for jan ?!
Bugpowder: for the last 5 hours
Bugpowder: err 3 hours
Bugpowder: 31000 in
Bugpowder: 21000 out s
mircea_popescu: o.o
Bugpowder: since block 217598
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 120 @ 0.00534611 = 0.6415 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 57 @ 0.00535581 = 0.3053 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: which puts us at 14,000 for the month
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 634 @ 0.00538043 = 3.4112 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4940 @ 0.00579999 = 28.652 BTC [+]
Namworld: So 1400? 2.8%
Bugpowder: 14000
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 14 / 0.00579999
gribble: 2413.79726517
Namworld: I'm talking for MPEx
Namworld: which is 10% of shares
Bugpowder: yah
mircea_popescu: 2.4. still pretty huge for a month
Namworld: We're closer to 6... more like 2.33%
Bugpowder: well
Bugpowder: dudeds
Bugpowder: the betting is ongoing
Bugpowder: Could be up another 10k in a few hours
Bugpowder: or back down.
mircea_popescu: if it keeps up sure
mircea_popescu: i suspekt sdice is spearheading azn bitcoin adoption
Namworld: azn?
mircea_popescu: asian
Namworld: ah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.53 = 5.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.53 = 1.59 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.52 = 3.64 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol srsly.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3000 @ 0.0054 = 16.2 BTC [+]
Namworld: Well darn... I'd need someone to loan me some funds then...
midnightmagic: dub: What the heck porn are you talking about? I went to go look, but.. only saw food. And my safesearch is off..?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.0006105 = 10.9585 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7330 @ 0.00061258 = 4.4902 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5120 @ 0.00061636 = 3.1558 BTC [+]
dub: midnightmagic: safesearch on, logged out, on a machine that has never searched for porn
midnightmagic: dub: Virus!
midnightmagic: Or at least link.
dub: midnightmagic: you know google 'bubbles' results based on a bunch of shit right?
dub: I guess either my coworkers or fellow countrymen in general are dirty bastards
midnightmagic: dub: Is any of it any good?
jcpham: IE17 dominates the competition: http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/performance/bubbles/
dub: hrm safesearch is off, wtf
dub: google doesnt support hyperlinks so..
dub: its a set of tits in some kind of artsy soft focus carry on
dub: a few hits for some kind of rodent as well
dub: <TheButterZone> http://trilema.com/2013/rota-post-mortem/ - i wonder how this correlates to the 519.704 BTC I got randomly
dub: I'd say 1 to 1
Namworld: ?
dub: dude is retarded
Namworld: Is he stubbornly adhering to his rules & contracts? (regardless of legality)
dub: thebutterzone is retarded
Namworld: ah
Namworld: I should pay more attention.
dub: how the fuck can you draw any relationship between that post and randomly receiving btc yourself
Namworld: No idea. I haven't read that.
jcpham: what is he talking about
Namworld: I always have 0 credits
jcpham: i'm guessing he received 519.704 BTC from MPEX
jcpham: or he is trolling
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.34 = 3.4 BTC [+]
mod6: no no, i think he did actually just randomly receive the btc from somewhere. at least iirc from reading otc
mod6: but, whatever.
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 5 @ 0.5 = 2.5 BTC
Bugpowder: Satoshi Dice up another 1000 in the last 10 minutes
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.3799 = 1.1397 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I think we are now at ~15,000 profit for the month
Namworld: If I mashup the recent talking, you're all suggesting I should hack satoshidice.com and replace betting addresses with some of my own and somehow "randomly receive BTC from somewhere"?
mod6: heheh
dub: only if you dig a big hole first
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8211 @ 0.0006105 = 5.0128 BTC [-]
mod6: hah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00060764 = 5.7118 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.34 = 3.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00060731 = 9.8992 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00507549 / 0.00525598 / 0.00579999 (109410 shares, 575.06 BTC), 7D: 0.00454703 / 0.00489723 / 0.00598999 (1391696 shares, 6,815.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00332178 / 0.0041661 / 0.00598999 (9555800 shares, 39,810.47 BTC)
Bugpowder: ;;calc 1500/52559
gribble: 0.0285393557716
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.38 = 1.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 614 @ 0.00703848 = 4.3216 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.01758122 = 17.5812 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.35779533 = 357.7953 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.29914036 = 299.1404 BTC [+]
markedathome: jcpham: thebutterzone got some btc sent to him around christmas/new years. at the same time other people in #bitcoin-otc were allegedly being given various sums from someone ranging up to about 200-300btc
jcpham: i see
jcpham: i was unaware of this
markedathome: he posted in bitcointalk but no one owned up to sending it, either on purpose or in error. How he then got to the rota, I haven't a clue.
jcpham: i think it was a joke
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.34 = 2.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.38 = 3.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
mod6: ahh markedathome
FabianB: mircea_popescu: seems like http://mpex.co/faq_cn.html's encoding is broken, doesn't work with in header stated utf-8, nor with any of the chinese
FabianB: mircea_popescu: it is utf-8 though if the copy&paste error is fixed
mircea_popescu: FabianB what error is that ?
mircea_popescu: o i think i see
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu:
mircea_popescu: now ?
mircea_popescu: html tag wrongly delcared it as english
thestringpuller: !ticker m S.MPOE
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00059541 / 0.00061157 / 0.00062988 (2609382 shares, 1,595.84 BTC), 7D: 0.00059541 / 0.00064102 / 0.00068 (11134418 shares, 7,137.43 BTC), 30D: 0.00059541 / 0.00064462 / 0.00068 (39225798 shares, 25,285.89 BTC)
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.36002, Best ask: 17.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03998, Last trade: 17.36002, 24 hour volume: 59877.57089900, 24 hour low: 16.65000, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 17.13945
thestringpuller: so why the sudden price jump?
mircea_popescu: a dollar a day keeps recession at bay.
thestringpuller: i feel like this is an aftershock of the reward half
FabianB: mircea_popescu: nope, that's not the problem, there are some escape characters in the html tags
mircea_popescu: FabianB looking.
thestringpuller: wow bitcoin is in headlines no wonder: First up is the venerable SatoshiDice, which is the leading bitcoin gambling site in terms of amount wagered. Responsible for more than 50% of daily network volume on the Bitcoin blockchain, SatoshiDice reported first year earnings from wagering at an impressive .33,310.
FabianB: i found/replaced them with an editor, after that works fine here
mircea_popescu: which then ?
Bugpowder: And January earnings of 15,000 to date
Bugpowder: :)
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you saw forbes piece btw ?
Bugpowder: yah
Bugpowder: awesome
Bugpowder: congrats
thestringpuller: "To invest in the operator and bet on the house, SatoshiDice shares are traded on the MPEx bitcoin stock exchange under ticker symbol S.DICE (see August 19th, 2012 Prospectus). At the current exchange rate of $17.00 per BTC, SatoshiDice is a company valued at $8.9 million."
mircea_popescu: o i c
thestringpuller: mPex is no longer mainstreeeam.
thestringpuller: mPex is no longer underground it is now mainstream
thestringpuller: *
thestringpuller: how does that make you feel mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: FabianB ok, was bad file encoding. check now ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller ummm... i dunno.
FabianB: mircea_popescu: jup, looks much better and readable now :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: :) ty! can you actually read chinese ?
thestringpuller: Smoovious: ;;seen smickles
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.34 = 1.7 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: blah
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 17 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <smickles> what was the final precursor last time? a bunch of puts bought, calls sold?
FabianB: mircea_popescu: i know some chinese, but not enought to verify if it's a good translation
Namworld: 15000 BTC earnings? Looking good.
Bugpowder: they have been killing it in the last few hours
mircea_popescu: crazy stuff
FabianB: mircea_popescu: but your new sentence is missing (the red one from yesterday)
Namworld: still betting?
mircea_popescu: FabianB o shit. ya, translator was at work on old version obviously ><
Namworld: I'll wait for the next report from dooglus
Bugpowder: not for the last 23 minutes
Bugpowder: the addressess still have over 10,000 left in them though
FabianB: mircea_popescu: shouldn't be a problem for him to add this one sentence
kakobrekla: pizza delivery boy
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39 @ 0.00060764 = 0.0237 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: FabianB indeed.
Bugpowder: at least 16,000 left actually
mircea_popescu: so, anyone here fluent in russian ? german ? french ?
mircea_popescu: spanish ?
FabianB: mircea_popescu: looks like the translater offers chinese support for mpex in the faq
mircea_popescu: FabianB yeh
FabianB: mircea_popescu: i'm german
mircea_popescu: a ? wanna do a german faq ?
Bugpowder: elance.com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00541028 = 1.6231 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: cheep
mircea_popescu: i don't have an account. and besides, i'd prefer ppl from teh community
kakobrekla: the bad part about is keeping all the langs updated later on
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 23 @ 0.00541028 = 0.1244 BTC [-]
dub: mircea_popescu: amir knows esperanto
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla im sort of hoping the faq is done.
mircea_popescu: dub willywonka-tellmemore.jpg
FabianB: i can try to find the time on weekend
mircea_popescu: FabianB don't feel pressured, it's purely an "if anyone wants to" thing
FabianB: i wouldn't want to offer support, like the chinese guy ;)
FabianB: (i don't even have an account, only using coinbr)
mircea_popescu: german isn't quite the unbridgeable cultural and linguistic gap like chinese is, so i don't imagine it'd make so much sense
Bugpowder: dub lol
error4733: Bugpowder : thanks for the SD sheet ! What a nice surprise today ! +8K
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 510 @ 0.41713552 = 212.7391 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00061105 = 10.0212 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: heh whoever had those calls is a rich boy.
Bugpowder: yah
Bugpowder: I got a few
mircea_popescu: but anyway, it's funny, i think they translated "dear lord" as "dear king"
mircea_popescu: not that my chinese is worth the mention.
Bugpowder: hehehe
mircea_popescu: so it's
mircea_popescu: "dear king, what is this ?" "it is dog"
dub: ROR
FabianB: mircea_popescu: lol, did you run it through google translate backwards?
mircea_popescu: i'll end up with manga fanshit, whereby a dog asks a princess what this is a kingdog ?!
Bugpowder: seriously though... How does the dude that just lost $200,000 on Satoshi Dice today feel right now.
error4733: sick
mircea_popescu: 大王 isnt that king ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18380 @ 0.00061586 = 11.3195 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2852 @ 0.00061636 = 1.7579 BTC [+]
mod6: Bugpowder: but maybe he made 225,000 yesterday!
dub: Bugpowder: probably like a dude that hat $200k to lose, indiferent
mircea_popescu: mod6 i think we'd know about it
FabianB: mircea_popescu: right
mod6: fair enough
thestringpuller: Bugpowder: did smickles confirm the receipt of those shares?
Bugpowder: I didn't ask him
error4733: like my grand father say : day loss, eve gain
mircea_popescu: he didn't asdk him, he told him.
Bugpowder: mod6 he didn't
Bugpowder: dub, yeah prob gonna take it out on a hired lady.
Bugpowder: or something
mircea_popescu: maybe on a hired gentleboi
thestringpuller: it is dog?
thestringpuller: who is dog?
mod6: lol
mircea_popescu: this is.
mircea_popescu: yes ?
thestringpuller: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/447/hello-yes-this-is-dog.png
thestringpuller: ? ^ that?
mircea_popescu: hello yes that is dog.
mircea_popescu: http://www.google.com/search?q=day+loss,+eve+gain&complete=0
mircea_popescu: my 1st is "The 60 Day Plan: How to Get Sexy by New Year's Eve ".
mircea_popescu: tru story.
error4733: google algo
Bugpowder: "Standings mechanics - EVElopedia - EVElopedia - EVE Online"
thestringpuller: my first is eve
error4733: with your previous
thestringpuller: Standings mechanics - EVElopedia - EVElopedia - EVE Online
thestringpuller: lol
Bugpowder: I am already sexy
mod6: anyway, yeah losses suck, but who's to say that's not his dip in his martingale chart
Bugpowder: don't need to search for it.
error4733: sorry for the bad translation, sound's better in french :(
Bugpowder: mod6 track the betting addresses.
mircea_popescu: error4733 say it in french ?
Bugpowder: http://blockchain.info/address/1EP4rM8hLZCRSWPNZDWJp9zdvmoWYkkgbQ
error4733: jour de perte, veille de gain
mircea_popescu: a
mod6: ahh. well, im not saying you're incorrect.
Bugpowder: http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Di6ux3CQBNXCZLD76BsnYWDo6XnFGzQah
error4733: if you lose todat that mean you will win tmrw...
Bugpowder: n
Bugpowder: no
Bugpowder: it means you lost it
mircea_popescu: yeah, lose today, win in the morn.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder hater!
Bugpowder: hey you might win tomorroe
Bugpowder: or lose another 10k
error4733: please do
mircea_popescu: anyway, im off. take care all
mod6: l8r
error4733: for every 10K i win 2btc :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00061241 = 10.1354 BTC [-]
Namworld: BTCT.co has nice features
Chilca: but they don't have S.DICE
Namworld: MPEx has less features and a high fee, but functions more like a stock exchange, not a brokerage platform.
Namworld: The transactions are much more secure.
Namworld: All gpg signed.
Namworld: coinbr.com is a broker for MPEx
Namworld: You can trade S.DICE/S.MPOE on it
Namworld: but they charge a bit more fees
error4733: i'll pay the MPEx fees with the S.DICE div from jan
Namworld: Are you already on any platform at all?
Chilca: I'm on MPEX
Chilca: and really like it
pigeons: i'm glad we are more accesaible and this channel is getting more blind members
Bugpowder: 12,100 BTC
Bugpowder: since doog
Namworld: I like the platform also
Namworld: The owner is a bit stubborn tho
Chilca: I see coinbr and they have a very nice UI.
Chilca: I'm sorry, coinbr doesn't have a nice UI.
Chilca: btct.co has a nice one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 64 @ 0.00526527 = 0.337 BTC [-]
Namworld: yeah. Different kind of stuff on it however.
Namworld: S.BVPS will be moving from MPEx to BTCT.co
Namworld: We're getting delisted from MPEx
Namworld: Previous owner of BitVPS did something not respecting the contract on MPEx (Selling his whole stake in BitVPS)
Chilca: Namworld: you are the owner of BitVPS?
Namworld: One of the co-owner.
Namworld: rg retired
Chilca: are you guys using openstack?
Namworld: no
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.10000, Best ask: 17.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 17.10000, 24 hour volume: 64871.93999072, 24 hour low: 16.65000, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 17.20845
mircea_popescu: what, still ?!
Bugpowder: they are trying to kill it
mircea_popescu: who's they and what's it
Bugpowder: getting close
Bugpowder: they = sellers; it = 17+
mircea_popescu: a a
mircea_popescu: ;;bids 17
gribble: There are currently 3619.4082 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.0 USD, worth 61628.2957349 USD in total.
mircea_popescu: ;;asks 18
gribble: There are currently 20232.644 bitcoins offered at or under 18.0 USD, worth 355737.861722 USD in total.
mircea_popescu: ;;bids 15
gribble: There are currently 42445.625 bitcoins demanded at or over 15.0 USD, worth 684798.563041 USD in total.
mircea_popescu: ;;asks 20
gribble: There are currently 39413.116 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 726890.468085 USD in total.
mircea_popescu: they look like fail tho lol
Chilca: ;;bids 16
gribble: There are currently 27597.151 bitcoins demanded at or over 16.0 USD, worth 455044.787176 USD in total.
Bugpowder: oh my
Bugpowder: 13000 profit
Bugpowder: still firing bets off at 4000 a shot
Bugpowder: every half hour
mircea_popescu: automatic like ?
Bugpowder: no
Bugpowder: random delay
mircea_popescu: it boggles.
Bugpowder: with them going out over the course of 2-3 minutes
Chilca: !help
assbot: List of commands:
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
mircea_popescu: Chilca you go like
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00507549 / 0.00525447 / 0.00579999 (110702 shares, 581.68 BTC), 7D: 0.00454703 / 0.00492216 / 0.00598999 (1282457 shares, 6,312.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00332178 / 0.00416702 / 0.00598999 (9563029 shares, 39,849.40 BTC)
Chilca: mircea_popescu: you know me!!
Chilca: thanks
mircea_popescu: i know everyone
mircea_popescu: + all the girls.
Chilca: mircea_popescu: I love the girls too
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135891785869.jpg speaking of which
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138100.0 is that you Ukto ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00061195 = 2.509 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18414 @ 0.00061195 = 11.2684 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9595 @ 0.00061584 = 5.909 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 991 @ 0.00061636 = 0.6108 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: In 2012, our users cashed out a total of 28,986฿.
mircea_popescu: so bitzino made something like 300btc in 2012 ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 636 @ 0.00513446 = 3.2655 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8423 @ 0.00060442 = 5.091 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00060309 = 5.1263 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4177 @ 0.00060424 = 2.5239 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00060843 = 4.4415 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1418 @ 0.00061636 = 0.874 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00527971 = 5.2797 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 921 @ 0.00524349 = 4.8293 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: if anyone is looking for a job ---> http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-hiring-old-style-pr/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00061954 = 4.058 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00061954 = 7.3106 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.3684 = 2.9472 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
Namworld: I would take it, but I hardly post enough...
dust-otc: I would do PR for asic companies
mircea_popescu: post ?!
mircea_popescu: there's no posting involved.
Namworld: I'm reading it now... I can see this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9058 @ 0.00061754 = 5.5937 BTC [-]
Namworld: by reading the link, I thought old style pr was something else.
Namworld: As in, more traditional.
mircea_popescu: well yeah.
mircea_popescu: that's what pr used to be, before sept 1991
Namworld: As in, not wildly going around the forum like a rabid dog denigrating everything (regardless if deserved) and thus get visibility.
mircea_popescu: heh who does that.
Namworld: MPOE-PR?
Namworld: Most of her post seems to be witch-hunting some random schmucks taking on a project too large for them and shooting them down.
Namworld: Or criticizing people or stuff.
Namworld: Well I guess on the visibility level, that does attract a lot of eyeballs.
mircea_popescu: this != denigrating everything (regardless if deserved)
mircea_popescu: neither as far as denigration goes, nor as far as deserved goes.
Namworld: Not what everyone seems to believes
mircea_popescu: well, so give an example.
Namworld: She might often be right in her predictions. It's still shooting down stuff on assumptions.
mircea_popescu: even her recent crusade against bfl (who aren't poor schmucks) seems to have been on the spot
mircea_popescu: they didn't, in the end, deliver first.
Namworld: yeah
Namworld: But she can't always be right.
mircea_popescu: well nobody can
Namworld: Yeah. But denigrating can mean simply attacking the reputation of someone or belittling them. She does that alot.
Namworld: Especially for some "developers" not fit for making the service they offer and etc.
Namworld: But she seems to be a quick shot.
mircea_popescu: afaik truthfully denigrate is an oxymoron.
Namworld: Anyway, not what traditional PR account do.
Namworld: Those mostly answer questions, talk about the merits of the business and mostly doesn't care about whatever drama or stuff happening around them.
mircea_popescu: actually, what pr does is get press mentions.
mircea_popescu: the rest is fluff.
Namworld: Normally.
Namworld: I just didn't get that from just reading the words from the link.
Namworld: Going to be hard to get mentionned in major news outlets.
Namworld: But feasible along some other bitcoin news.
Namworld: They talked of BFL, they talked of SilkRoad, they talked of BitPay
Namworld: I don't see why not MPEx
Namworld: Anyway. Got to go back to updating stuff for BitVPS
Namworld: later
mircea_popescu: gl.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00061754 = 7.6884 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00061851 = 6.2779 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9183 @ 0.00061754 = 5.6709 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4467 @ 0.00061323 = 2.7393 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00061323 = 2.7595 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3133 @ 0.00061323 = 1.9212 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12617 @ 0.0006093 = 7.6875 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2312 @ 0.00061607 = 1.4244 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 307 @ 0.00061851 = 0.1899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5033 @ 0.0006093 = 3.0666 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4367 @ 0.00060856 = 2.6576 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7543 @ 0.00061851 = 4.6654 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2830 @ 0.00061874 = 1.751 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00061855 = 15.6493 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00061034 = 0.1831 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15874 @ 0.00061034 = 9.6885 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14026 @ 0.00060856 = 8.5357 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7670 @ 0.00060856 = 4.6677 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7371 @ 0.00060823 = 4.4833 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 843 @ 0.00524349 = 4.4203 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00513129 = 1.5394 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1457 @ 0.0051312 = 7.4762 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00060823 = 1.7815 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00060684 = 3.1859 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22943 @ 0.00060474 = 13.8745 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3188 @ 0.00060309 = 1.9227 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13212 @ 0.00060288 = 7.9653 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00060288 = 12.4193 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3188 @ 0.00060288 = 1.922 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1912 @ 0.00060278 = 1.1525 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23708 @ 0.00060278 = 14.2907 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00060262 = 4.369 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16375 @ 0.00060224 = 9.8617 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22767 @ 0.00060224 = 13.7112 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11697 @ 0.00060474 = 7.0736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10481 @ 0.00060474 = 6.3383 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12130 @ 0.00060902 = 7.3874 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00060057 = 5.1649 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00060648 = 9.1578 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00060902 = 3.6541 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00060902 = 6.6992 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1153 @ 0.00060057 = 0.6925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00060042 = 10.027 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19147 @ 0.00059937 = 11.4761 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.01310272 = 13.1027 BTC [-]
jurov: mornin
Namworld: hey jurov
Namworld: Just done fixing BitVPS billing... well most of it... still working on that
jurov: hey... so... you misbilled me or?
Namworld: No, but it concerns you and everyone
Namworld: Basically, there's no way to automatically update the price for everyone.
Namworld: and all price are based on fixed USD
Namworld: So we're switching everyone to USD pricing.
jurov: i herd they are moving to btct
Namworld: That way, everyone always pays the exact price based on MtGox
Namworld: Yes, we chose BTCT.co
jurov: heh, good luck with burnside.
Namworld: ?
Namworld: thanks
jurov: i just have some own experience with him
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2644 @ 0.00525465 = 13.8933 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3164 @ 0.00527971 = 16.705 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00532851 = 10.657 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "I work in fraud investigation and forensic accounting. People bring me crazy stories all the time. One such story was from a contractor who was hired to put in ventilation to a building for a bunch of servers. The owner later bragged about how he was stealing/counter fitting bitcoins and selling them. I have no idea how this all works but my advice is the same as Wulfar's, stay away from it"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00536067 = 4.8246 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0053929 = 1.6179 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6000 @ 0.00539293 = 32.3576 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: people. srsly fucken retarded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 377 @ 0.00541028 = 2.0397 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5060 @ 0.00579999 = 29.3479 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00579999 = 57.9999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0058 = 58 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4900 @ 0.0059 = 28.91 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00595622 = 5.9562 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8651 @ 0.00599 = 51.8195 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: (sauce http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/61424-bitcoin-mining-for-silvers/ _
Namworld: jurov seems to indicate he has some bad experience with burnside
jurov: not really bad... just annoying stuff on teh forums, got called borderline scammer
jurov: without real reason, he did not even try coinbr afaik
Namworld: oh...
jurov: Ukto had it similar. So i avoid btct and ltccc
jurov: ic. some fleas think they are dogs
mircea_popescu: ok, that's a good line right there.
mircea_popescu: ima steal it.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1117186#msg1117186
mircea_popescu: im kinda sad nobody lent him stock to short at 32
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00059938 = 4.1957 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00059938 = 0.5994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00059937 = 6.7729 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Re: customer deposts: I can't give you guys coins that I don't have, but I will likely be paying users out of pocket for this in a manner that is affordable. The way the site was set up before, apparently, advertisers were not allowed to withdrawal at all. I want to change things like this to allow that sort of functionality but I am not going to be able to do that especially if you guys try to all withdrawal at once
mircea_popescu: , it's just not going to be feasible, and if giantdragon still had the site, apparently, he wouldn't have paid advertiser balances out anyway. Advertisers would use their balances for advertising, and the publishers had the ability to be paid out. If a publisher has a balance and the amount requested for withdrawal is reasonable, I'll just pay it out of pocket, but it's not like I have a massive bitcoin balance to be
mircea_popescu: paying out of. I have a very little amount of bitcoin, and after buying coinurl the amount is laughable but if the total amount of publisher withdrawals is a few BTC a week or something then I can make that happen. Be reasonable, be patient, and this transition will be pretty seamless.
mircea_popescu: this is pretty great.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you gotta read this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137084.msg1465225#msg1465225
mircea_popescu: part after last quote
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13020 @ 0.00060902 = 7.9294 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00061221 = 4.8977 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6380 @ 0.00061306 = 3.9113 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6732 @ 0.00061306 = 4.1271 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11644 @ 0.00060252 = 7.0157 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: nice, 100btc was too steep for me atm
Namworld: S.DICE going up up uo
Bugpowder: over 100k bet in the last 17 hours
Bugpowder: dice up about 10k for the month I think
Namworld: and still going?
Bugpowder: including the latest
Bugpowder: yeah the last burst of 4,000 bet was 8 minutes ago
Bugpowder: haven't included it yet actually :)
Namworld: freakin whales
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00061306 = 2.6055 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: +9200 on >115,000 bet
Bugpowder: roughly
Bugpowder: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051312 / 0.00543782 / 0.00599 (145859 shares, 793.16 BTC), 7D: 0.00454703 / 0.00511 / 0.00599 (711971 shares, 3,638.17 BTC), 30D: 0.00343244 / 0.00417666 / 0.00599 (9620260 shares, 40,180.62 BTC)
Namworld: Good, good
Namworld: I'll keep updated with dooglus next update
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller was 50 in the end they say
Namworld: Actually... they lose 1.9%, of which a good part goes to shareholders...
Namworld: gains from what?
Namworld: But IPO is already finished...
Namworld: 10 million shares sold, all that was issued on MPEx...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18056 @ 0.00060252 = 10.8791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16185 @ 0.00059937 = 9.7008 BTC [-]
Namworld: Ok, he made a lot of money on the IPO.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 620 @ 0.18660466 = 115.6949 BTC [+]
Namworld: I don't see why it would go on. Still people betting large sums
Namworld: Why would evoorhee be betting now?
Namworld: Earlier, maybe.
Namworld: Yeah, but 90% is not issued on MPEx
Namworld: Maybe...
Namworld: We'll see
Namworld: I wouldn't have IPOed
Namworld: Would have kept 100% of SatoshiDice
Namworld: Not 6 years earnings.
Namworld: Even if he sold at 0.004, that's only 40000 BTC for the 10 million shares.
Namworld: That's 2-3 year earnings if we keep getting 1000 BTC+ per month in dividends
mircea_popescu: Namworld that's a problem, really. pretty much nobody wants to list for that reason
mircea_popescu: (+ not having to deal with idiots)
Namworld: Assuming betting doesn't stop.
Namworld: I issued loan bonds. I pay 10.95% per year on BTC debt. People still loan me funds.
Namworld: Best deal an issuer can get.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28562 @ 0.00059937 = 17.1192 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 471 @ 0.00059928 = 0.2823 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11467 @ 0.00059858 = 6.8639 BTC [-]
Namworld: Yeah, I suppose.
Namworld: Still... I think it was a bad deal for evoorhees to IPO
Namworld: ... find me one godlike stock which gains 100% in 2-3 years...
Namworld: He did not... but he lose longterm.
Namworld: Assuming all betting is real
Namworld: He'd get more long term just keeping 100%
mircea_popescu: http://investmentwatchblog.com/wtf-facebook-wants-a-photo-id-now/ kinda funnay
Namworld: If it does, than yeah
Namworld: I'd be surprised SatoshiDice would get closed/outranked.
kakobrekla: rofl http://youtu.be/e2HwRM9eBCs?t=34m28s
Namworld: Well I try to avoid such drama.
Namworld: Actually I don't even really try. My threads tend to be dramaless.
Namworld: They're almost ghost towns.
Namworld: It's almost just me posting updates every month or two
Namworld: Yeah
Namworld: Well 40000BTC is a neat cushion
Namworld: Well I didn't do it... and in that case, it financed rg's business actually, funds were needed.
Namworld: Plus I wouldn't have bought shares or known rg at all without the IPO.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 250 @ 0.001139 = 0.2848 BTC [+]
Namworld: Which means rg wouldn't have invited me to take over BitVPS with arij and phungus
Namworld: So I suppose I don't regret the IPO.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18393 @ 0.00061283 = 11.2718 BTC [+]
Namworld: Well for SatoshiDice, the coins were not needed.
Namworld: I'd have taken the risk and just get all for myself.
Namworld: If my business ends up earning nothing, well so be it...
Namworld: Either some shareholders lose, or I lose...
Namworld: I'd chose all the risks, all the rewards
Namworld: Ah, well anyway.
Namworld: I hope so.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00598998 = 2.995 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00598999 = 5.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00599 = 4.792 BTC [+]
Namworld: He already got a massive earning BTC business
Namworld: Well SD...
Namworld: So I'd have put the coins on some stock of fiat stock exchange.
Namworld: Get a little edge
Namworld: Anyway, 8:47 am... I need sleep.
Namworld: Was up all night working on BitVPS
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 350 @ 0.001139 = 0.3987 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1833 @ 0.00059858 = 1.0972 BTC [-]
jurov: Namworld, if you ran sdice privately, how would you cover 2k loss like one in november?
jurov: you can get 2k just by issuing bonds?
jurov: or you'd have to lower the bet limit considerably
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 549 @ 0.00599 = 3.2885 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00599355 = 10.7884 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13633 @ 0.00059657 = 8.133 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00059617 = 16.5735 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8785 @ 0.00059592 = 5.2352 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 300 @ 0.001139 = 0.3417 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00059673 = 5.5794 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20215 @ 0.00059592 = 12.0465 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8802 @ 0.00059485 = 5.2359 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 833 @ 0.00059445 = 0.4952 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: wow money is being taken out of mpex and placed into s.dice
thestringpuller: mpoe*
jurov: or s.bbet... and coinbr users match each other's orders, causing new bugs to pop up
jurov: doh, making my own exchange would be easier than this
thestringpuller: where is our api lol
thestringpuller: BBET is more profitable to run bets on as a business than investing in the stock
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00059673 = 4.5351 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: I wish you could p2p sue someone.
thestringpuller: move le money!
pigeons: well you can use the rota but even if you pay the judges and neg rate them for ruling you should return someone else's funds you may still lose
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2717 @ 0.00059673 = 1.6213 BTC [+]
jcpham: hello
jcpham: fuck all the nonsense
jcpham: the rota was used improperly for a moral judgement
jcpham: it's mircea_popescu discretion toreturn funds
jcpham: the blockchain predetermined it. he asked the rota to make a moral decision
jurov: jcpham, can't get over it?
jurov: lol i told mircea maybe first rota case will be about "mpoe-pr is public nuisance" cause it falls into its scope
jurov: was not so far from truth
jcpham: the choices were a) yes return the money b) no do not
jcpham: but what happened was door number three
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00614098 = 15.3525 BTC [+]
jcpham: and behind door number three are 3 strangers making moral decisions
jcpham: let's be clear: the blockchain is in fact permanent imho
jcpham: it isn't decision to reverse blockchain transactions
jcpham: the person who....requested all of this.....either directly or indirectly....and their reaction
pigeons: twas directly
jcpham: indecision is the lack of action
pigeons: mircea_popescu directly told wences to use the rota instead of settling it
pigeons: EskimoBob_afk: correct
jcpham: i'm not upset. i just think it should be made the clear the rota shouldn't be deciding moral debates about customer service
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2634 @ 0.00061283 = 1.6142 BTC [+]
pigeons: actually that was a common legal issue and it is ALWAYS resolved that no matter the afreement if you can fix a problem like that easily you are required
jcpham: EskimoBob_afk i think you may be a larger fanboi than me
jcpham: Boomshakalak
jcpham: ;)
jcpham: i don't play well with others
imsaguy: EskimoBob_afk is clearly a liar.
imsaguy: Unless he now types using psychokinesis
jcpham: look it's an imsaguy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00061092 = 12.9515 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6855 @ 0.00060879 = 4.1733 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00060444 = 19.1607 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5049 @ 0.00060444 = 3.0518 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5323 @ 0.00061283 = 3.2621 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9428 @ 0.00061306 = 5.7799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0059 = 0.059 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.30000, Best ask: 17.30077, Bid-ask spread: 0.00077, Last trade: 17.30000, 24 hour volume: 54870.17966918, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.58890, 24 hour vwap: 17.21227
Bugpowder: boom
Bugpowder: 17.25 and 17.30 walls just got bot
topace: ill bot your walls
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15309 @ 0.00060438 = 9.2525 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00060438 = 4.1702 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.29900, Best ask: 17.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05099, Last trade: 17.29900, 24 hour volume: 54137.88100753, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.58890, 24 hour vwap: 17.21015
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 851 @ 0.00600303 = 5.1086 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 349 @ 0.00595519 = 2.0784 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: !ticke S.MPOE
thestringpuller: !ticker S.MPOE
assbot: Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
thestringpuller: !ticker m S.MPOE
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00059445 / 0.00060973 / 0.00062988 (2042391 shares, 1,245.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.00063728 / 0.00068 (12240334 shares, 7,800.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00064382 / 0.00068 (39855484 shares, 25,659.87 BTC)
thestringpuller: neither are you assbot
mircea_popescu: assbot smokes teh cok since he was six months old.
thestringpuller: What's the guy who runs bitvps' name?
mircea_popescu: there's 3 now. namworld you mean ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 14 @ 0.0089 = 0.1246 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 59 @ 0.0089 = 0.5251 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 38 @ 0.009 = 0.342 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;later tell Namworld I need an emergency VPS, possible NS hosting/transfer
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00060433 = 2.8101 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.30282548 = 302.8255 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.36117336 = 361.1734 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.24447761 = 244.4776 BTC [+]
Korbman: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.40102, Best ask: 17.47277, Bid-ask spread: 0.07175, Last trade: 17.40102, 24 hour volume: 53901.83917218, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.58890, 24 hour vwap: 17.20956
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8791 @ 0.00060438 = 5.3131 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00060884 = 11.1722 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00061236 = 18.1259 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1160 @ 0.00061306 = 0.7111 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1699 @ 0.00061405 = 1.0433 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.533 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00614 = 7.982 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 1 hour, 14 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <smickles> what was the final precursor last time? a bunch of puts bought, calls sold?
Ukto: smickles: around?
thestringpuller: no
thestringpuller: bad internet
Ukto: btw
Ukto: did you really want me to play through to disc 2 on ff7? :/
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.30241793 = 302.4179 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.24403609 = 244.0361 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.36079977 = 360.7998 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: no. just send it to me duuuh
thestringpuller: i pay btc mr. 2 copies
Ukto: I am seriously ocncerned about the scratces tho
Ukto: you want 2 copies?
thestringpuller: i have a disc 2 i only technically need disc 2
Ukto: 0,o
thestringpuller: err disc 1
Ukto: oh
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/0Um67nJ.png
mircea_popescu: hm, this looks distinctly bullish
jcpham: it will be difficult to stop for sure
jcpham: if people keep sending coins to gox to sell, that is
mircea_popescu: seems therre's 3x as much fiat as coins
jcpham: yeah
jcpham: what would be even more interesting is if the asks got even shallower
jcpham: nad gox starts to dry up
mircea_popescu: it prolly will
mircea_popescu: what people don't realise is that btc is a lot like s.dice
jcpham: it seems close
mircea_popescu: fixed pool available, buy it out it's out.
jcpham: the bulls have taken over gox
jcpham: that is certain
thestringpuller: thats any stock...
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller anything wioth fixed supply. people think btc "is money" thus fully inflationary bs fiat.
mircea_popescu: it's not.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: those people need to watch the introductory video
mircea_popescu: there's levels. on some intellectual level they get it
mircea_popescu: but on the gut level they still think "money" = fiat
thestringpuller: gold is like that in physical reality...
thestringpuller: gold is as old as the earth so it seems
mircea_popescu: well no, gold is much older than earth.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00061327 = 5.2435 BTC [-]
jcpham: i was going to make that point also
mircea_popescu: sun-level stars can synthesize at most iron
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8177 @ 0.00061405 = 5.0211 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: lol
mircea_popescu: stuff like gold comes from supernovas
jcpham: gold is ancient as space and time itself almost
jcpham: in terms of human perseption
jcpham: perception
jcpham: my type is fail
mircea_popescu: ok jspham
thestringpuller: helium is more rare than gold but tghat isnt truly my point
thestringpuller: that*
mircea_popescu: helium is not more rare than gold.
thestringpuller: on earth
thestringpuller: ;)
thestringpuller: ^perception. you plan on mining the sun mp?
mircea_popescu: even so ?! 1 mol of gold is what, 200kgs
mircea_popescu: 1 mol of helium is 22.4 liters.
mircea_popescu: prolly 1000:1 he:au
jcpham: yeah but we waste helium and talk funny
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8796 @ 0.00060598 = 5.3302 BTC [-]
jcpham: i'd waste gold if it made me talk funny
thestringpuller: my point was that finite things always run ouy
thestringpuller: out*
kakobrekla: id does if you waste it for helium
kakobrekla: it
thestringpuller: lol
jcpham: haha
mircea_popescu: lol
thestringpuller: people will always be selling btc though
thestringpuller: pumps
thestringpuller: !ticker m S.DICE
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051312 / 0.00548008 / 0.00614098 (153015 shares, 838.54 BTC), 7D: 0.00454708 / 0.00530983 / 0.00614098 (481678 shares, 2,557.63 BTC), 30D: 0.00343244 / 0.00417854 / 0.00614098 (9629909 shares, 40,238.99 BTC)
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.31862, Best ask: 17.33000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01138, Last trade: 17.33000, 24 hour volume: 53588.45314260, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.58890, 24 hour vwap: 17.20807
topace: !ticker h sdice
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.51000001 / 0.53671746 / 0.55500000 (177 shares, 94.99898964 BTC), 7D: 0.48000000 / 0.54341709 / 0.62000000 (637 shares, 346.15668934 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.46687217 / 0.62000000 (4172 shares, 1947.79068932 BTC)
thestringpuller: !ticker m O.BTCUSD.C170T
assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.53999999 = 4.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 108 @ 0.00602995 = 0.6512 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00602994 = 13.8689 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 851 @ 0.00595519 = 5.0679 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1741 @ 0.00592487 = 10.3152 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.54 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00061253 = 1.3476 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00061405 = 11.9433 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7004 @ 0.00060598 = 4.2443 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7392 @ 0.00060433 = 4.4672 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5058 @ 0.00060433 = 3.0567 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12349 @ 0.0006033 = 7.4502 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4743 @ 0.00060084 = 2.8498 BTC [-]
jurov: *reads scrollback* oh, there will be supply... when most scams decide to close and sell
jurov: or vice versa hehe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00060085 = 12.017 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 457 @ 0.00060084 = 0.2746 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2593 @ 0.00059517 = 1.5433 BTC [-]
Korbman: ;;ticker m s.dice
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Korbman: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051312 / 0.00550902 / 0.00614098 (150853 shares, 831.05 BTC), 7D: 0.00454708 / 0.00533426 / 0.00614098 (471074 shares, 2,512.83 BTC), 30D: 0.00343244 / 0.00417947 / 0.00614098 (9634909 shares, 40,268.90 BTC)
mircea_popescu: jurov not that many scams left.
Korbman: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.33904, Best ask: 17.41799, Bid-ask spread: 0.07895, Last trade: 17.33904, 24 hour volume: 52619.42457762, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.58890, 24 hour vwap: 17.19969
Bugpowder: Epic betting session
Bugpowder: still going
Bugpowder: now >150k in <24hrs
JWU_42: woah
JWU_42: maybe that has something to do with Gox
JWU_42: buying up BTC to bet on SD
JWU_42: ;)
jurov: does anyone know how much all the asic companies raised? it's pirate-level or less?
error4733: 3.48M$
error4733: ish
jcpham: see i understand bit-pay as a payment processor that acts in fiat
jcpham: and keeps the btc
jcpham: after the BFL asic announcement, they were seeking buyers off the exchange
jcpham: if they have the financial fiat backing to process directly in fiat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15279 @ 0.00061064 = 9.33 BTC [+]
jcpham: and then simply hold the btc
jcpham: or sell it, or have fun with walls
jcpham: that makes bit-pay a goliath
mircea_popescu: jurov it's probably about there.
mircea_popescu: depends if you count btc or usd and how narrow you cap things
mircea_popescu: jcpham if they try to play the market uninsured they are doomed.
jcpham: its a risky proposition for sure
mircea_popescu: moreover, any random geek things two things of himself
mircea_popescu: that he can code a clone to X and that he can "play the market".
mircea_popescu: neither are in fact true.
jcpham: i just wonder who's in control of those coins and how they make it back to market
jcpham: and on what timescale
mircea_popescu: i like to imagine they just process and that way they'll live forever.
mircea_popescu: tho you have a point, a bfl-bitpay tandem collapse is certainly conceivable.
jcpham: they have taken in a lot of coins
jcpham: i can't imagine any entity with more to dispose of
Bugpowder_: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 17.17
mircea_popescu: i think i know a couple.
jcpham: well of course you might
mircea_popescu: haha Bugpowder_ wins the price oddity jackpot
mircea_popescu: hm so that post pays off, i have like 3 ppl wantign the job already
Bugpowder_: how much do i win?
mircea_popescu: ~0.00
Bugpowder_: ;;calc 0.00 * 17.17
gribble: 0
Bugpowder_: :-(
mircea_popescu: small jackpot
Bugpowder_: GOOG
Bugpowder_: 747.55
Bugpowder_: !
mircea_popescu: dead cat jump :D\
burnside: jurov, around?
jurov: yes
burnside: owe you an apology
jurov: O.O
burnside: didn't mean to come across like such a dick on your coinbr thread
jurov: it actually began elsewhere.. but okay, you're welcome
burnside: i'd just been attacked by mpoe-pr over security issues, and it came up that mpex if you lose your key you're f'd.
burnside: not so much lose actually, if someone else gets your key, you're f'd.
burnside: I realized that for you to trade live, you have to keep that key on the server.
burnside: and then I realized that there was a brokerage doing just that.
burnside: anyway, long story short, combination frustration with mpoe-pr and worried about another big btc compromise, I asked questions publicly that I should have asked privately.
jurov: actually it was fine... until that name calling :D
burnside: I'm convinced now that you've taken every precaution you can, and will eventually likely be using coinbr.
burnside: yup, thus, the apology.
jurov: accepted ;)
dub: thanks for the valuable insight bob
gigavps: lol
dub: bob has bitch tits
jurov: eskimo,seems you do it for free instead, and poorly... i rather like her professional job
jurov: you should hire someone
burnside: back to my day job. later all.
jcpham: what is old-school PR
dub: I think there is an awful lot that you do not understand
dub: your scope seems to be limited to smoking crack and making mud pies
dub: or art or whatever you call that
jurov: this is best old-school PR stunt ever: http://kccbigcountry.hubpages.com/hub/Crush--Texas-The-Train-Crash-of-1896
jurov: Some of the debris came down among the spectators, killing three and injuring several more. Crush was immediately fired from the Katy railroad. In light of a lack of negative publicity, however, he was rehired the next day.
jurov: ^ wikipedia says
Chilca_: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 17.16
dub: Now the biggest risks have gone so please expect the enjoying of both short-term and long-term profits of us in the next years. And also thanks for your patience.
dub: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 217732 | Current Difficulty: 2968775.3320751 | Next Difficulty At Block: 219743 | Next Difficulty In: 2011 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 weeks, 3 days, 3 hours, 50 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2145071.19164676 | Estimated Percent Change: -27.745586927
jurov: there are people who abhor profits, and need to be told otherwise, you know
dub: my answer to that is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzlAvPZT2nA
dub: lol indeed
dub: I shill for mpex derp
topace: !ticker h sdice
topace: oooooo no assbot
kakobrekla: ah right right
kakobrekla: ill move it to another box i think
topace: what happeend to it ?
kakobrekla: i rebooted that vbox
topace: o
kakobrekla: no worries
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.0006106 = 0.0611 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.575 = 2.875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.589 = 2.945 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 42 @ 0.0089 = 0.3738 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 62 @ 0.009 = 0.558 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 8 @ 0.009 = 0.072 BTC [+]
gigavps: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136499.msg1473976#msg1473976
dub: the old someone got into my account excuse eh
gigavps: dub, haha
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: what was all that bullshit with "old money" and "will deliver" and "your friend" etc
gigavps: hey EskimoBob_afk
gigavps: pretty sure they are on track to deliver
gigavps: finally
dub: have they performed the order selection clusterfuckover process yet?
gigavps: no clue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00060815 = 9.1223 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: dub what do you figure they get sued for first, order selection or equity ?
mircea_popescu: (in case they actually deliver, i mean)
dub: good, I'll assume the lack of contact with return instructions doesn't (yet) mean my sub 100 order is worthless
dub: mircea_popescu: no clue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00061064 = 6.4728 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00595587 = 4.1691 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: is it gonna be before march or no?
gigavps: i sure as hell hope so
gigavps: but knowing BFL, they'll probably have another delay
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00061064 = 4.6409 BTC [+]
dub: my only hope is that someone shoots inaba in the face
gigavps: harsh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 896 @ 0.00060815 = 0.5449 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11337 @ 0.00060757 = 6.888 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol kakobrekla you got btc in the bet ?
kakobrekla: sure
mircea_popescu: haha
mircea_popescu: gigavps you hedging on http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ ?
kakobrekla: since its my proposition, its the only right thing to do - bet
gigavps: mircea_popescu, i'm balls deep
gigavps: not sure how you hedge balls deep
mircea_popescu: i imagined you may be the 500 on the no
gigavps: haha
mircea_popescu: or w/e, 300
gigavps: nope
mircea_popescu: im curious how much of the yes are ppl who refunded / how much of no are ppl who stuck with their order
mircea_popescu: so hedging, as opposed to people just speculating with no skin in the game
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.551 = 6.061 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: using bitbet as insurance...
thestringpuller: hah, self organizing insurance.
mircea_popescu: should work.
kakobrekla: funny those morons on the forum still struggling to make the 20btc bfl bet after what a week
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135914.msg1474123#msg1474123
kakobrekla: noted.
mircea_popescu: ya well.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2130 @ 0.00595587 = 12.686 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 247 @ 0.00060715 = 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6003 @ 0.00060835 = 3.6519 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.34 = 1.7 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: um.
mircea_popescu: avalon claims they're in the red on first batch ?
mircea_popescu: holy.
thestringpuller: leaky budget
thestringpuller: its okay
mircea_popescu: it;s not. no asics in the history of bitcoin mining will be worth as much as that 1st batch
mircea_popescu: if they can't turn a profit then, they can never turn a profit.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00060835 = 5.7489 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: i was being sarcastic like you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 170 @ 0.00595587 = 1.0125 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00600715 = 8.41 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8883 @ 0.00060835 = 5.404 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9320 @ 0.00061064 = 5.6912 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 94 @ 0.00611858 = 0.5751 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.009 = 0.027 BTC [+]
markedathome: mircea_popescu: did you ever post what that image was?
mircea_popescu: markedathome which one ?
markedathome: the one that you were going to pay 0,1334 btc for (and which the vertical was time)
mircea_popescu: and speaking of which, let me point out that you can't be a dirty old man without having seen http://trilema.com/2013/frauengefangnis/
markedathome: i mean 0.1337
mircea_popescu: markedathome a, no. nobody guessed, so i guess i might let the secret out
mircea_popescu: trackbacks on my blog.
markedathome: so what was the big space gap in the middle?
mircea_popescu: i leaked the wikileaks db a while back
Bugpowder: Now over 200,000 bet in the last 26 hours on S.DICE
mircea_popescu: (then the next day they published it too)
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder o.o is that like 1/3 of december ?!
Bugpowder: no
Bugpowder: its like 2/5ths
mircea_popescu: ffs.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what the upper bound of this is.
Bugpowder: when the whale breaks
Bugpowder: or comes down
Bugpowder: off the yayo
mircea_popescu: but i mean... 1mn a month ? 5 ? 20 ?!
mircea_popescu: over 20 ?
Bugpowder: well
Bugpowder: there was organic growth of miniwhales
Bugpowder: this month
Bugpowder: in between the massive binge at the start of the month and now
Bugpowder: so that is good.
mircea_popescu: yeah
Bugpowder: the question is what happens when this whale blows his whole wad
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.49501, Best ask: 17.49510, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 17.49501, 24 hour volume: 49777.38979188, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.49501, 24 hour vwap: 17.19659
Bugpowder: which I estimate currently to be 30,000 BTC in the addresses that have flashed
mircea_popescu: we see 19 ?
Bugpowder: hopefully by tomorrow :)
mircea_popescu: no i mean... when he blows his wad...
mircea_popescu: we see 19
Bugpowder: 19 whats?
mircea_popescu: dollahs
Bugpowder: heh
Bugpowder: yeah
Bugpowder: ;;asks 19
mircea_popescu: i wonder how much of the buy pressure is ppl wanting btc to sd
gribble: There are currently 20627.928 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 371592.589557 USD in total.
Namworld: Considering 1.9% loss average... you don't need too much to make a huge amount of bets
Bugpowder: ;;asks 19.5
gribble: There are currently 23352.431 bitcoins offered at or under 19.5 USD, worth 424184.625256 USD in total.
mircea_popescu: Namworld yes but if you make large ones
Bugpowder: ;;asks 20
gribble: There are currently 33143.873 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 618445.377545 USD in total.
mircea_popescu: variance can take a bite.
Bugpowder: yeah, variance will take a bite
Bugpowder: you can't come back once you blow the wad
Bugpowder: unless you buy more
Bugpowder: oh man
Bugpowder: if the addresses go to zero
jcpham: when i was younger i had this real flashy uncle
Bugpowder: and then a new set start betting with the same pattern
Bugpowder: :)
jcpham: he was always on the hustle
jcpham: real estate, wahetver
jcpham: this christmas i whispered bitcoin in his ear
jcpham: and told him to trust me
mircea_popescu: jcpham good move.
jcpham: i think it's my uncle
jcpham: he needs a new toupe
mircea_popescu: is his name by any chance bob ?
jcpham: it might be
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.91 BTC [-]
jcpham: i'm not real close with family
Bugpowder: This address busted out.
Bugpowder: http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Di6ux3CQBNXCZLD76BsnYWDo6XnFGzQah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00060567 = 13.8396 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00060557 = 1.5139 BTC [-]
Namworld: For one whale for which variance takes a bit, another should win extra from variance, on average. So should even out.
Namworld: All will always tend to 1.9% loss per bet.
Bugpowder: That address that busted out, is actually at the top of the leaderboard
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder classic casino story.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.0060583 = 12.7224 BTC [-]
Namworld: With 100k BTC, I could make 5 million in bets...
Namworld: Assuming I don't have good/bad streaks