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BingoBoingo: shinohai: I told n6 to just install
OpenBSD. Then he found a guide to set up a "desktop" which convinced him to edit fstab (treat as read only). Got him to reinstall and find a saner guide. Didn't check his hardware and because Nvidia his resolution is painful. Directed to keep reading man pages.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 06:03:32; trinque: BingoBoingo:
OpenBSD is probably a much better n00b suggestion
trinque: BingoBoingo:
OpenBSD is probably a much better n00b suggestion
☟︎ BingoBoingo: trinque: He's on
OpenBSD now and a six month hold order
BingoBoingo: Just remember
OpenBSD still contains plenty of ways to hang yourself. On the plus side almost all of them are very well documented.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell n6 Step 1: Just run
OpenBSD for now Step 2: transcribe and build "Lions' Commentary on UNIX 6th Edition, with Source Code" Step 3: Six monthe of logs should be up, then you may Gentoo
trinque: then in 6-12mos we can talk about replacing the thing with
OpenBSD trinque: I am open to offering options like the
openbsd installer for say X, other things
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 18:44:44; gernika: General question - is there value in continuing to test stator, and future versions of it, on
OpenBSD? Or should I abandon that and just test on Gentoo from now on?
gernika: Ah right. No problems building statically on
OpenBSD.
gernika: Incidentally I spent about 1hr attempting to build rotor on
OpenBSD - got buried in tiny differences between bsd/linux.
gernika: General question - is there value in continuing to test stator, and future versions of it, on
OpenBSD? Or should I abandon that and just test on Gentoo from now on?
☟︎ ben_vulpes: <n6> might try
openBSD after this.. <<
openbsd, an os that doesn't take much fucking with where bitcoin might actually build with vs gentoo where its known to build but the os cannot be built by mortals.
BingoBoingo: trinque: But for a build your first *nix Upgrading
OpenBSd to -stable seems best documented
n6: might try
openBSD after this..
BingoBoingo: n6: Practice on different *nic first. Install
OpenBSD upgrade to stable. May have to patch bitcoind, but learn building from source in very documented way.
BingoBoingo: I'm not sure rc is jsut the plan9 shell. On
Openbsd I see those two letter attached to all kinds of scripts and Openrc is apparently best Gentoo init.
BingoBoingo thinks something like
OpenBSD uses for authenticating repository keys for anonCVS could work for important node connections
BingoBoingo: I'll prolly just wait for Eulora emacs edition. There's no source package floating around for cg toolkit so it won't
openBSD unless I rip it out.
BingoBoingo: With the rest of my stuff running atm I'm almose using 1/3 of my RAM for the first time since I've moved to
OpenBSD mircea_popescu: if my suspect is true, this very neatly shows
openbsd as a superior os.
BingoBoingo went from fairly stable 224-236 MB of ram usage to a very flat 986 MB the very flat makes me suspect
OpenBSD weird
BingoBoingo: Random turd. Could be
OpenBSD memory handling weird
punkman: "One of the first things I did after installing
OpenBSD back in the day was set up a 6bone tunnel and ping6 all three other IPv6 sites out there. I was living in the future. Fifteen years later, and well... Fuck IPv6."
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 00:02:16; phf: trinque: probably same reason
openbsd is not the blessed b-a target platform
phf: trinque: probably same reason
openbsd is not the blessed b-a target platform
☟︎ trinque: I'm curious why these guys don't seem to have considered using
openbsd as a basis
trinque:
openbsd dead yet? I just grew to like it, so I'm sure it must be
mircea_popescu:
openbsd decided it much prefers this, because the way to turn everything to shit is to surround everyone doing anything useful with a bunch of operational idiots.
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 06:27:43; BingoBoingo: Personally I hope that
OpenBSD treats MicroShaft with the same Courtesy they did MP after the check clears
BingoBoingo: Personally I hope that
OpenBSD treats MicroShaft with the same Courtesy they did MP after the check clears
☟︎ BingoBoingo: phf: You edit login.conf on
openbsd to free up ram, yes?
phf: asciilifeform: fwiw i've not tried pcengines yet, but i might get it for an additional
openbsd machine on your recommendation. compared to soekris though a lot of boards that i tried have dodgy reliability. i.e. random crashes. like BingoBoingo said though, this might just be a reputation impression
phf: re atom, it is 32bit only. i tried running stator on atom board with
openbsd, it overheats, deferring until i figure out a cooling solution
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> wat <<
OpenBSD doesn't maintain binary compatibility between releases. They do stuff like kill deterministic rand() between 5.6 and 5.7
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 01:20:23; mod6: my one gentoo (all ascii's patches through verifyall x86-64/glibc) build got all the way up to where nsl is wedged. but my
openbsd one is crawling along on verify all also... so far: height=220047
mod6: my one gentoo (all ascii's patches through verifyall x86-64/glibc) build got all the way up to where nsl is wedged. but my
openbsd one is crawling along on verify all also... so far: height=220047
☟︎ gernika: mod6 interesting that I ran into that on
OpenBSD once, but got around it on a second try, not using libressl.
BingoBoingo: Anyone running
OpenBSD and radeon graphics. 5.7 seems to actually improve quite a bit over 5.6 in this front.
trinque: not bad; I continue to see parallels between gentoo and
openbsd usage patterns
BingoBoingo took advantage of this Qntra downtime to update
OpenBSD to 5.7 release and then compile/install 5.7 stable
trinque has found the
openbsd manpages to be in a class of their own
mod6: my
openbsd one is crawling along.
trinque:
openbsd's upgrade process is surprisingly (and refreshingly) easy
TomServo: mod6: Was your
OpenBSD recipe made public somewhere?
mod6: As far as testing, so far everything seems to be working ok -- i've fully sync'd 1 stator build, and i've got 2 more full sync's running curretly: one gentoo x86-64 w/glibc & one
OpenBSD x86-64 w/glibc
TomServo: In other news, I noticed this blurb on the
OpenBSD octeon page today: "In June 2015 USB support was added which finally allowed installing to local disk on machines lacking a CF slot."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Build on
OpenBSD with flags I use and missing from 0.5.x atm like getpeerinfo
BingoBoingo: Anyone as of yet spot my
OpenBSD 0.7-ish build in the wild. Returns version 0.7.3.9 for the time being
BingoBoingo was planning if acquired mac mini to install max ram, max sub $200 SSD,
OpenBSD 5.6, Set up SSH keys, bitcoind sync, and ship
gernika: My
OpenBSD bitcoind has stopped syncing: trying connection x.x.x.x:8333 lastseen=-371358.4hrs lasttry=-399136.2hrs | it had been syncing from the address in the qntra post.
BingoBoingo: SO finally got 0.7.2 ish built on
OpenBSD 5.6 again. Turns out the problem this whole week was pointing at the wrong BDB version
BingoBoingo wonders how his 0.7.2 qt build ever worked on
OpenBSD mod6: <+gernika> mod6 I've attempted syncing on
OpenBSD again and am now past block 168000 and have reached 185126. It's going very very slowly though. << good to hear though
☟︎ gernika: mod6 I've attempted syncing on
OpenBSD again and am now past block 168000 and have reached 185126. It's going very very slowly though.
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> phf: No, not yet. On
OpenBSD I'm running an 0.7.2 derivative with LibreSSL 2.0 just to see how it behaves. << how's the libressl build going?
trinque: mod6: which
openbsd package provides realpath?
mod6: read your readme... so yeah, months and months ago I was able to build a dynamic bitcoind on
openbsd, but that was the exact issue after statically linked: seg fault.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> phf: i built on 5.6 but I can't seem to get mine to be be statically built :( << First thing to understand about
OpenBSD is that it is a weird unix. Not as weird as Linux, but differently weird.
BingoBoingo: phf: No, not yet. On
OpenBSD I'm running an 0.7.2 derivative with LibreSSL 2.0 just to see how it behaves.
phf: BingoBoingo: have you tried making static build on
openbsd? i seem to recall you were running a bunch of
openbsd boxes
BingoBoingo finally trying to recreate my
OpenBSD 0.7.2-ish qt build. Must have lost the original sources that worked somewhere down the line
decimation: interesting. I didn't see any updates on
openbsd saying that the nfs turd was no longer needed
decimation: running
openbsd. I thought ascii had been using netbs
decimation: pete_dushenski: I thought that
openbsd didn't support the usb storage driver for edgerouter
pete_dushenski: first you unplug the usb drive from inside the edgerouter, plug it into your computer, install
openbsd on it, unpack it, reinstall the drive in the edgerouter, establish a serial connection, and start talking.
TomServo: But last I read booting
OpenBSD required booting over the network, rather than install on the USB drive due to lack of a USB driver
TomServo: pete_dushenski: Didja find a way to boot
OpenBSD on the edgerouter from USB or are you using the nfs boot option?
mod6: mircea_popescu: (this is compiling stator on
openbsd)
gernika: mod6: had to run as root to get around
openbsd memory limits on normal user accounts. There are other ways.