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decimation: mircea_popescu: re: http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-38/ << a comment at the bottom: "Frog Do Says: IMO, “Moldbug studies” remain one of the more fertile areas of research for the American Outer Right. More interesting info in that “Trilema” piece than anything on Ferguson."
BingoBoingo: Still, do you really want some insurer or landlord knowing how much spackle you had to buy to patch the walls after the bacanals
assbot: f9beb4d9 #17: SUCCESS (stable); Comment: asciilifeform's goodbye-win-32 patch
assbot: f9beb4d9 #16: SUCCESS (stable); Comment: asciilifeform's turdmeister-alert-snip patch
assbot: f9beb4d9 #13: SUCCESS (stable); Comment: asciilifeform's https-snipsnip patch
assbot: f9beb4d9 #12: SUCCESS (stable); Comment: ben vulpes' rm_rf_upnp patch
assbot: f9beb4d9 #5: FAILURE (broken since build #3); Comment: initial commit: asciilifeform's manifest and rm's manifest and 'chicken' patch
assbot: f9beb4d9 #4: FAILURE (broken since build #3); Comment: result of applying the chicken patch
assbot: Outside in - Involvements with reality » Blog Archive » Chaos Patch (#38) ... ( http://bit.ly/1HT47Uk )
mircea_popescu: http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-38/ << this guy, that apparently binges on trilema, linked http://trilema.com/2014/of-mendacity-mold-bugs-and-other-things/
jurov: ben_vulpes: yes. i'll look why it did not associate patch with signature
kakobrekla: these lisp guys ... 'nobody submited a patch in 4 and a half minuts...!' and 'only one download first day' is 'project dead dood'
assbot: LKML: Greg Kroah-Hartman: [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation ... ( http://bit.ly/15KTnca )
assbot: Re: [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation [LWN.net] ... ( http://bit.ly/15KSro8 )
asciilifeform: 'Of course, this already happened: someone wrote a patch... in 2011... That said, the patch was rejected, and that's that. The bug lives on.'
mircea_popescu: just like there's no punishment for the anon derp hiding behind "contributed a patch to openssh"
decimation: they might even find a particular patch of jungle that is more pleasing than another
asciilifeform: 5) patch is reversed by folks paid or otherwise happy to carry out this duty, and go to step 2.
asciilifeform: 4) exploit is patched, patch introduces more of the substance seen in step (1) (plausibly-deniable spaghetti that contains seeds of next iteration of cycle)
ben_vulpes: but if you're going to hack on it, start with the 0.5.3 dist at f9beb4d9.org, apply asciilifeform's "chicken" patch, and then yours on top of that.
Adlai: of course, but the "manual trust verification" approach taken further would suggest only applying critical bugfixes, as patches, signed by the developer who wrote them (preferably with a signature published at the time of the fix, alternatively obtaining a signature in the present day... or manually verifying the patch's trustworthyness, and signing yourself)
asciilifeform: but i will not be signing any patch that i can't apply with my mind, in my mental model of the code. ☟︎
asciilifeform: undata: well, to the extent that any version control system can be cudgelled into coughing up output compatible with 'patch' - then yes.
asciilifeform: Adlai: we have the metadata. the integer in the patch fileames.
Adlai: a "conflict" would require a separate patch, which should be signed by the resolver
Adlai: asciilifeform: you can add metadata such as patch dependency which is not evident just from the patch's raw contents
Adlai: they're looking for verified patch lists
asciilifeform: Adlai: in what way is 'darcs' output more useful than unix patch?
asciilifeform: also i don't remember if i reminded anyone of this, but unix 'patch' utility is rather braindead.
asciilifeform: so what will be the convention for submitting 'patch note with sig' ?
mircea_popescu: jurov seems the site needs the extension of a "patch notes" clickable field ?
mircea_popescu: 1 change per patch.
jurov: maybe you want to rate the patch? lol
asciilifeform: that a patch, a particular one, is a particular identifiable 'thing.'
jurov: it pairs the sig to the patch by name
mircea_popescu: so basically, the correct approach here would have been for ascii to make a patch for each individual diff ?
jurov: it will make blablabla...hexporn.patch.sig
jurov: gpg -b bitcoin-asciilifeform_a6ada6bb9cebb9540df1fda3465d942a4631d202.2-https_snipsnip.patch
jurov: wget http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20141112/bitcoin-asciilifeform_a6ada6bb9cebb9540df1fda3465d942a4631d202.2-https_snipsnip.patch
asciilifeform: jurov: how would he (or anyone else) submit a detached sig meant to go with a particular patch ?
asciilifeform: someone (who read it!) try signing my patch ?
asciilifeform: jurov: i got yet another copy of 'patch' in email. i presume you are turning the knobs as we speak?
asciilifeform: (one could hypothetically have a patch 'submitted by' mr x but 'signed by' mr y
asciilifeform: i'd suggest showing original patch author's sig also
mircea_popescu: if this results in a patch to the kernel of w/e jurov's server is using...
asciilifeform: this means - ordinary unix patch.
asciilifeform: Adlai: manual patching is a deliberate choice here. each patch is a document that those who sign it are expected to actually read -and- understand.
Adlai: darcs is more organized than patches-over-mail, i've not used it enough to know whether it has any builtin support for patch signing
jurov: but that's buggy, too. yest it ate newline in the patch file and then proclaimed "sig invalid, wont publish"
Adlai: there's no patch, just an announcement about the github repo
jurov: you're welcome to send the patch itself, as described there, too
jurov: hi Adlai, you wanted to post a patch to btc-dev?
jurov: *end of patch
asciilifeform: jurov: sent message, correctly formatted, patch and patch sig attached, nothing happened.
jurov: asciilifeform: thanks, i need something to chew on. apparently mailman mangled the patch before saving to archive
asciilifeform: sent a patch to turdatron. no worky.
BingoBoingo: The scoopbot always on patch seems to need work
asciilifeform: ('patch' util is dumb as a rock)
asciilifeform: s/patch/exploit
assbot: Potentially catastrophic bug bites all versions of Windows. Patch now | Ars Technica
BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/potentially-catastrophic-bug-bites-all-versions-of-windows-patch-now/ << WinBleed
asciilifeform: whoever wants to add this as a patch - can
mircea_popescu: who the fuck ever read whatever software the dns letters run ? who ever wrote a patch for it ?
mircea_popescu: suppose ninjashogun wants to push a patch for deedbot. or, whatever, the cardano.
asciilifeform: that is, it must address a specific thing, and patch is not really considered worthwhile until other participants are willing to sign it.
assbot: LKML: Lv Zheng: [PATCH v2 7/7] ACPI: Add support to force header inclusion rules for <acpi/acpi.h>.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: so what's best practice when something like this gnupg 2.1.0 modern comes out? <<< i use 1.4 branch. depends what you're after, but in general best practice is read the update notes see if anything you actualy want [then in the unlikely case that yes, patch your sources with just that and recompile].
asciilifeform awaits the patch whores
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'd reject a patch because it was submitted by a whore ?
asciilifeform: not like this isn't a fool's errand anyway, if it's gonna clam up at block 250k << i actually have most of a patch for purely configurable block pumping. but shelved it and everything else for this reason.
bounce: reimplement in php and submit as a patch to wordpress
assbot: [3.13.y.z,extended,stable] Patch "sparc64: Fix FPU register corruption with AES crypto offload." has been added to staging queue - Patchwork
asciilifeform: http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/405686 << re: ancient mircea_popescu thread
BingoBoingo: I thought this is why alf patch series was named chicken
undata: bounce: neg, was not led by the patch name "chicken" to believe that that one cleaned up the project
ben_vulpes: take a look at the first patch on therealbitcoin.org
asciilifeform: my next patch was going to be a removal of the magic strings (seed ip table, etc) and replacement with ascii configs, as suggested by mircea_popescu.
asciilifeform: if you approve of another fellow's patch after honest study of it - you sign it as well
asciilifeform: submit patch with signature, yes
undata: process to submit is patch with signature?
ben_vulpes: hashtag asciilifeform patch collection october
ben_vulpes: hashtag asciilifeform patch collection
asciilifeform: undata: http://therealbitcoin.org contains origin tree. 'chicken' lists the remaining files after first trim. rm_... is ben_vulpes's patch;
mircea_popescu: but my dear man, it isn't A patch.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: care to share even this patch?
assbot: : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%2A.patch
ben_vulpes: !s *.patch
assbot: 354 results for 'patch' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=patch
ben_vulpes: !s patch
ben_vulpes: .tar.gz, including patch and detached sig.
jurov: the body is only comment. patch itself will be always in attachment
asciilifeform: anybody else build my no. 4 patch ?
jurov: srs, i now wonder what the dude that made the patch and supposedly maintains it, what he uses it for?
Naphex: asciilifeform: didn't quite pick up that turdmeister alert snip was a bitcoin patch to check it:)
asciilifeform: gentlement: patch review pleeze ?
asciilifeform: lolno, ben_vulpes patch
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, others: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/rm_rf_upnp-asciilifeform.patch.sig << related
asciilifeform: presumably not every message will be a patch
ben_vulpes: jurov: why bother checking body? instead maybe just check .patch.sig for l2 sig, and compare that to the file.
ben_vulpes: and i've no idea if it's the most recent - there's no patch tracking tooling in place