BingoBoingo: <saifedean> so what do you gentlement do around here? what time are the virgin sacrifices? << Those happen on Reddit
jurov: and bitcointalk is cannibalism outright :D
mircea_popescu: <saifedean> science by committee and public grant << totally.
mircea_popescu: <saifedean> i dug up the old phd and can email it to any of you who are interested. not sure it's worth publishing as it's still too academese to interest normals << let me gues, it;s pdf ?
assbot: Contact : PGP pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
saifedean: any idea how to convert it to txt?
saifedean: but there's tables and crap... but i guess you don't really need to visualize brazilian ethanol production
saifedean: coz it's kept it in its original shape, i think
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assbot: Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
kakobrekla: imma guess your invalid query was intentional
jurov: but where i did a mistake?
jurov: it was not intentional
jurov: i assume assbot forgot everything about x.idiff.dec cuz it's book is empty for months
jurov: mod5, ben_vulpes: i hereby submit a proposal for the foundation's fund to be used for x.idiff marketmaking
jurov: btw, anyone can submit any other proposal. not like it's destined for me to sit on it forever
mircea_popescu: the more you sit on btc the greater the pleasure gets.
Azelphur: I'm still sitting on my BTC...just kinda wondering how much further down it's gonna go xD
mircea_popescu: "The NutFund was a charity set up by Blake Benthall as part of his project on the StartUp Bus and using his own BTC, he donated to his own charity. The NutFund.co website has since been abandoned" <<< heh.
mircea_popescu: dude srsly, guy who supposedly had millions in btc was spending his time doing twobitcentscams ?
kakobrekla: .just kinda wondering how much further down it's gonna go xD < not enough for kako to get a real job
kakobrekla: does a 'real job' even exists in 2014 ?
jurov: kakobrekla: plumbing won't fix itself, for example
jurov helped dad today installing new dishwasher
kakobrekla: it will if you have enough CaCO3 in your water
kakobrekla: idk, something that is reliable and not sucking dicks
BingoBoingo: If BTC goes down too much there's still African Somalia
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu if its your saliva on em
jurov exposes his dick to mircea_popescu to spit on
kakobrekla: you also have 500km cock for long distance relationships?
jurov: no, mircea has long distance spits
kakobrekla: yeah but my somalia is better than your somalia
mod6: jurov: My vote is that you simply hold the Foundation's BTC.
mod6: If and when we ever decide to utilize those funds, we'll let you know.
jurov: but you do receive proposals, no?
kakobrekla: anyway, at this btcusd and current life style, i have 20-30 years to find a real job
mod6: jurov: None so far that I know of, other than perhaps a bounty or something for testers as suggested by ben_vulpes.
kakobrekla: the king will die, the horse will die.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the horse could fall in love with the king...
jurov: ;;ud roasting spit
mod6: But I'll be rejecting these outright unless they directly impact, positivly, the development of the reference implementation.
jurov: bounty on someone's head, well, i can certainly think of someone
mircea_popescu: jurov lol it just means a metal rod you roast on. it's the roasting spit.
jurov: asciilifeform you have interrupts wired in even while sleeping?
kakobrekla: its all world of warcraft swords and hats to you anyway
kakobrekla: should be again ever really, ever again doesnt make sense
mircea_popescu: dawg, just make those cardanos so we can sell em and that's it, let some other unfortunate soul extract himself with bountee.
☟︎ assbot: Minor update: The main onion and my totally non-illegal personal onion have both been serving up the seizure image as of a couple hours ago
assbot: Minor update: The main onion and my totally non-illegal personal onion have both been serving up the seizure image as of a couple hours ago
kakobrekla: at which point is the request routed to show 'seizure image' instead of the intended destination?
BingoBoingo thinks kako needs to speak as assbot more often. Every barrel needs a bung.
kakobrekla: i see our little cant count for shit friend dropped 850mbps of bs on the lawgs
kakobrekla: experts, sex pets ... not much of a difference
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ben_vulpes: <jurov> mod5, ben_vulpes: i hereby submit a proposal for the foundation's fund to be used for x.idiff marketmaking << lol no but good try
mircea_popescu: dude i think kako drunk for like the first time in his life
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> i see our little cant count for shit friend dropped 850mbps of bs on the lawgs << was about 750 on qntra earlier too
decimation: This Lv guy writes in something other than English
decimation: asciilifeform: I learned about the 'tardation of SMI interrupts today
decimation: asciilifeform: really this is about broken hardware
decimation: the smi thing is similar, depending on what hardware you are using, the bios literally steals cpu to use it to maintain temps, fan speeds, etc
decimation: as if this couldn't be done with a $0.1 microcontroller
decimation: how does one write an 'adult os' on hardware that randomly isn't responsive?
decimation: the thing is, 'better gear' isn't available for any sum
decimation: For instance, the other day I was looking to see if anyone provided specs for the cpu clock
decimation: none. all you can buy is shitty resonator
decimation: it's like discovering that the only meat available in the entire world is mcdonalds 'meat' and then realizing that apparently nobody cares
decimation: asciilifeform: there are hints about what is done for 'adult systems':
http://doc.ntp.org/4.2.6/drivers/driver22.html "A scenario where the latter behavior can be most useful is a planetary orbiter fleet, for instance in the vicinity of Mars, where contact between orbiters and Earth only one or two times per Sol (Mars day). These orbiters have a precise timing reference based on an Ultra Stable Oscillator (USO) with accuracy in the
decimation: order of a Cesium oscillator. A PPS signal is derived from the USO and can be disciplined from Earth on rare occasion or from another orbiter via NTP. "
decimation: apparently whatever it is, it runs ntp
decimation: that's good for microseconds, what if you want to have low jitter down to nanoseconds?
decimation: apparently there's no demand, except they sell thousands of gps-derived ntp clocks
decimation: why would you glom your clock circuit onto a peripheral instead of making it a central feature?
decimation: asciilifeform: do I detect a subtle stab at Stalin for his meddling with Stierlitz's orders?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> where some pissant thing can be 'depended on' and break the world. << the "dependency" system is stupid and should go away.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> what about bitcoind on an asic? << yeah, but only after you actually got a book can you print a chip
decimation: unlike intel, the spec should be published before the turd is made
kakobrekla: can you print a chip < but cant check it
BingoBoingo: What about all of those brave people who unprinted NES chips to get the emulators right?
decimation: chips can be reversed, but only after a long and painful process
decimation: nevertheless, once this bitcoin thing does its thing to the financial world, these things will come (the bitcoind chip)
BingoBoingo: Actual computer might be worth the space to house it in a shipping container in the yard
mircea_popescu: decimation pre-bitcoin i was wondering on my blog why no mysql chip
assbot: Loper OS » The Hardware Culture, or: What They Build, Works! Can We Say the Same?
decimation: in the mainframe does it was considered quite ordinary to 'spin off' specialized tasks to specialized hardware
decimation: asciilifeform: not quite, if you had the $$ you could get TSMC or whoever to mint one
decimation: eh, I don't buy the omnipresent usg thesis
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> add a few $bn for military discouragement of molestation by currently invested parties. << Data centers with no safe disconnect distance
decimation: if usg can manipulate electronics, why did it allow electronics to flee to china?
decimation: presumably $bn requires $lawyer to defend it
BingoBoingo: <decimation> if usg can manipulate electronics, why did it allow electronics to flee to china? << US never surrendered all of its foundries. IBM sale is getting a National Security review for a reason
decimation: usg wanting to maintain the last little vestige of us ic-printing is a different thing than usg deciding electronics
decimation: can manufacture IC products with technology nodes between 10,000 nanometers (nm) and 250 nm. Approximately half of the companies (22) can make ICs in the United States with technology nodes from 250 nm - 65 nm. A significantly smaller number of firms, six, can make IC products at dimensions below 65 nm, and just three of them have commercial-volume capability for 45 nm and 32 nm dimensions."
decimation: the trouble is, chip fabs are expensive as fuck, so there's not much money in keeping old ones alive
decimation: it's true that the design turdware is a serious problem
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mircea_popescu: basically brigading has become the sole us policy on the internets.
mircea_popescu: "o we are numerous, and that makes our stupidity pale in importance!"
decimation: lol " You see other kids all over the world committing suicide or at the very minimum getting their feelings hurt on this totally unnecessary platform."
decimation: oh no, some kids have their feelings hurt! call the waamulance?
mircea_popescu: decimation the thing is, it's a late comer to the stupid game, roughly a twitter ripoff with better interface.
mircea_popescu: except the owners happen to not be bezzle-rooted, some dudes in latvia rather than san fran.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> covert trollspam by vendor. no actual living this is this stupid. << Indeed. Deer backed off and did not challenge my car this morning.
mircea_popescu: they have 200mn users, which is downright fucking criminal. i don't for a second believe that this huge push is anything to do with "suicides".
punkbot: [trust-update] added: menahem
mircea_popescu: somehow pharma killing 7 people per 200 million is not noteworthy.
hanbot: mircea_popescu pharma spends money on pretending to care
hanbot: ask.fm forgot to pay off the carecops, s'all.
mircea_popescu: decimation think about it, a userbase of 200mn implies no less than 20k suicides.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, tons of people use facebook and kill themselves. but that's not a news item.
decimation: just like for the first iraq war, it was statistically safer for a young male to be in iraq than in the us
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the magic elixir of making idiots fellate their pistols - is not yet discovered. << But in Usia if you fail to make the pistol cum they take it away so you can't learn to succeed
decimation: actually I suspect the main cause of death in that demographic is auto accidents
decimation: nah, that's only a thousand a year or so
BingoBoingo: No, it's auto accidents, with Opiate overdoses gaining groung
mircea_popescu: decimation but wait. imo the demo is about 10mn or so.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i thought it was gangland warfare. << Most of these survive
mircea_popescu: you telling me 1k deaths in gangstarism is less than whatever car crashes claim ?
decimation:
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4863 << "The U.S. homicide rate declined by nearly half (49%), from 9.3 homicides per 100,000 U.S. residents in 1992 to 4.7 in 2011, falling to the lowest level since 1963. From 2002 to 2011, the average homicide rate for males was 3.6 times higher than the rate for females. The average homicide rate for blacks was 6.3 times higher than the rate for whites."
mircea_popescu: In 2010, there were an estimated 5,419,000 crashes (30,296 fatal crashes)
decimation: of course this isn't broken by demographic
mircea_popescu: ok looksy : 30k deaths from auto accidents on a 300mn population
decimation: asciilifeform: but I walk in cities and drive a car
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and if you're not an urine spear thrower, what's your chances ?
mircea_popescu: how about that canadian woman a satellite found in the fucking white wastes ?
assbot: Drug Abuse 2013 data for Illinois
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo check it out, suspiciously close to suicide rate.
BingoBoingo: Yeah. BUt the overdoses in Illinois usually don't count as suicides in the courts.
BingoBoingo: or if bystanders are insufficiently charitable
BingoBoingo: Fairly recent development 2010-2013 this one started
decimation: BingoBoingo: if you read last psychiatrist, the best explanation is that all of the druggies in chicago are 'legit'
BingoBoingo: I really dunno to much about Chicago. Other end of the state represent! Still we got Quinn out of the Governor's mansion before he could be charged breaking Illinois tradition.
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http://t.co/5XO2awwHSs BingoBoingo is Disappoint Matheney hasn't been shitcanned yet for haiting pr0n
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2014 02:50:58; asciilifeform: chetty_: russian roulette, ~143,000 micromorts.
decimation: asciilifeform: we humans are bad at judging small risk
BingoBoingo: <decimation> when our stomachs need filling << I dunno, have you seen youtube?
BingoBoingo: I mean you never know what gets taxidermy anymore
decimation: asciilifeform: wouldn't our immortal-with-a-weakness face even chances of death in 5000 years (assuming 10 in 100000 accident deaths)
BingoBoingo: Bittorrent has to be the worst place to go to download the classics, if only it wasn't the only place
cazalla: BingoBoingo, legit actually, i make backups with cpanel which makes some 100mb archive but i didn't delete em
cazalla: and your email is listed as the contact for when a backup is complete, i do em manually by ftp and phpmyadmin too
BingoBoingo: The thing is... Other my email is listed. Looks more like spear fisherman.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00059963 = 4.9769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00059963 = 13.5816 BTC [-]
bounce: ``Andrew Lewman, executive director of the Tor Project, which runs the service, said in an e-mail that it does not condone its use for illegal purposes and that it was unclear how authorities discovered the operators of the illicit sites.'' -- yet even the usg promotes its use to explicitly break the law in other countries. funny how that works.
BingoBoingo: Sounds a lot like the definition of terrorism
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dignork: bounce: proposition of CA issued cert for tor hidden service still puzzles me, next stop - yellow pages for black market vendors
punkman: hidden service is supposed to provide end to end encryption , isn't it
BingoBoingo: dignork: Yellow pages might not be so bad.
BingoBoingo: punkbot: Well, remember that Debian bug circa 2006
dignork: punkman: yes, but in theory signed ssl cert provides some identity validation. Although the same can be achieved by gpg signed .onion address.
bounce: the onion address is governed by a private key, so no real chance of impersonation -- as long as you check the complete onion address
punkman: I wonder how many machines they used to find the vanity .onion
bounce: so the problem they're trying to solve by throwing a threadbare industry best current practice at it is to add some special "it's us, honest!"-sauce to link facebook.com and $facebook.onion
bounce: ... and do so in a way that makes your browser bar turn a nice comforting colour
BingoBoingo: Honestly the default "comforting colors seem as shady as fuck
BingoBoingo wonders why paladin press torrents are such shitty downloads, wishes for a Paladin Press takeover by S.QNTR, eventually
bounce: the whole industry is made out of "well we needed to do something, so we made up this thing. now everybody must do this thing, too.", starting with the CA root certs
BingoBoingo: <bounce> the whole industry is made out of "well we needed to do something, so we made up this thing. now everybody must do this thing, too.", starting with the CA root certs << Well, hookers invented something
BingoBoingo appologizes, had no idea bittorrent was so slow in the event a person wants to download something the slightest bit interesting
BingoBoingo: So how sad is it that "planet of the apes" is the most probabale failure mode for homo erectus descendants
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.0005999 = 13.8577 BTC [+]
assbot: lcamtuf's blog: Pulling JPEGs out of thin air
jurov: likely it won't figure crypto in any reasonable timeframe, but otherwise..hmmm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00059889 = 11.6484 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00059889 / 0.00062408 / 0.00068112 (613140 shares, 382.65 BTC), 7D: 0.00059889 / 0.00071975 / 0.00079259 (3534752 shares, 2,544.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00059889 / 0.0007431 / 0.00081111 (24039298 shares, 17,863.80 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013704 / 0.00015 (4111 shares, 0.56 BTC), 30D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013704 / 0.00015 (4111 shares, 0.56 BTC)
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00000000 B (Total: 0.00 B). Delta: 0.00 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000195 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00059889 / 0.00062408 / 0.00068112 (613140 shares, 382.65 BTC), 7D: 0.00059889 / 0.00071975 / 0.00079259 (3534752 shares, 2,544.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00059889 / 0.0007431 / 0.00081111 (24039298 shares, 17,863.80 BTC)
Adlai: jurov: likely it won't figure crypto in any reasonable timeframe << "figure"?
jurov: i meant "figure out"
Adlai: looking at how afl works, it seems to have zero effectiveness for [good] crypto
Adlai: it's only useful for this jpeg nonsense because it's able to "evolve" the format due to early branches in djpeg
Adlai: no assbot don't... shit, too late
assbot: lcamtuf's blog: Bash bug: the other two RCEs, or how we chipped away at the original fix (CVE-2014-6277 and '78)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14638 @ 0.00059889 = 8.7666 BTC [-]
PeterL: ;;later tell pete_dushenski sorry about missing your blog, looks like scoopbot crashed before you posted it
jurov: mopst are afk today
EXT4: lol murderfs hans reiser is in jaul
jurov: we dont mention him by full name
jurov: and next time read teh rules
assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Title: BITCOIN DECLARATION O - Pastebin.com
punkbot: mircea_popescu: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.
mircea_popescu: mpex corps will announce wtf to do with this at the end of the month.
jurov: quite a bombshell, the past para
mircea_popescu: (your browser should have a fit-to-screen option. and generally, formatting should be done locally not fucking up the document with spuriousness)
bounce disagrees. 80 cols for the ages.
jurov: well, everyone is lazy and just throws text into <pre>
jurov: let the browser format the text and offer raw text for download
mircea_popescu: bounce i hate nothing more than downloading a "text" document and instead getting a "text+markup that's identical to text and only works on obsolete machinery anyway"
jurov: yes, hard-pre-wrapped text is hard to work with
mircea_popescu: then i have to run it through complex fucking awk to make it sane again
bounce has awk to put the overly long lines into something comfortably readable. screens may get bigger and bigger, but the comfy line length doesn't change
jurov: just resize the window?
jurov: on portable device, one may leed less than 80
mircea_popescu: bounce in any case, consider that putting a \n every 80th character is a lot easier than extracting spurious \ns
bounce: oh I don't know that. if the lines get long enough things get "interesting" in a hurry
bounce: smtp and 998 characters, for example
jurov: irc and 400 characters :D
mircea_popescu: 123456789a123456789b123456789c123456789d123456789e123456789a123456789b123456789c123456789d123456789e123456789a123456789b123456789c123456789d123456789e123456789a123456789b123456789c123456789d123456789e123456789a123456789b123456789c123456789d123456789e123456789a123456789b123456789c123456789d123456789e123456789a123456789b123456789c123456789d123456789e123456789a123456789b123456789c123456789d123456789e123456789a123456789b12
bounce: 510 actually, but including :you@your.host.whatever PRIVMSG #channel
jurov: i supported 4096B
http headers in ziproxy
bounce: per line? that sounds a little excessive.
jurov: but twas 10 years ago, it has new maintainer since
jurov: iirc some sites sent insane megabyte cookies
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: The thing is... Other my email is listed. Looks more like spear fisherman. << nah actually looks legit.
mircea_popescu: dignork: bounce: proposition of CA issued cert for tor hidden service still puzzles me, next stop - yellow pages for black market vendors << nah, it's quite obvious, BingoBoingo has it : us sponsored terrorism.
mircea_popescu: "those people's laws aren't really laws, our laws are really laws".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: bounce: ... and do so in a way that makes your browser bar turn a nice comforting colour << that.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: where did i read about gold and problem of keeping it safe before? << heh. and they mention it, too, because they're cultured and stuff. o.O
mircea_popescu: jurov: and next time read teh rules << uh what'd i miss ?
jurov: i think he got devoiced due to nick changes
ben_vulpes: bitcoin-assets is best alternate reality game
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: why do you put a space before semicolons?
assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Title: BITCOIN DECLARATION O - Pastebin.com
punkbot: ben_vulpes: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.
assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Title: BITCOIN DECLARATION OF - Pastebin.com
punkbot: asciilifeform: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.
mircea_popescu: sooo where are these nude photos of Miss Teen USA 2013 ?
chetty: is there a crib sheet somewhere on using the deed thingy?
punkbot: ben_vulpes: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands.
punkbot: ben_vulpes: (deed [url]) -- the bot will search [url] for signed deeds and queue them.
punkbot: ben_vulpes: Error: There is no command "list".
punkbot: jurov: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands.
punkman: chetty: is there a crib sheet somewhere on using the deed thingy? << it's just one command!
punkbot: BingoBoingo: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.
BingoBoingo: qntra.net/2014/11/bitcoin-declaration-of-sovereignty-filed/
thestringpuller: I wonder which corporations will move to that profit model
punkbot: ben_vulpes: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.
punkbot: ben_vulpes: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.
ben_vulpes: i don't think that dating these things is necessary. they embed in the blockchain, after all.
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Pierre_Rochard: “pay a tax in sum of 0.1% or a hundred thousand satoshi per full Bitcoin realised” <- Is this tax on profit or revenues?
ben_vulpes: how does a tax on revenues make any sense?
ben_vulpes: imagine the pathological case where an operation's barely scraping by with margins of, oh let's just say 0.1%.
Pierre_Rochard: ben_vulpes: both tax on revenues and tax on profits have their pros and cons. So I’m assuming the answer to my question is that it’s a tax on profits
ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: okay so indulge me, because i know nothing about the pros and cons of taxation: what are the benefits of taxing revenues?
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Pierre_Rochard: off the top of my head: (1) avoid companies playing games with expenses to minimize taxable profits (2) widen the base to unprofitable and break-even companies (why should they be indirectly subsidized by profitable companies)
BingoBoingo enjoying that out cult nao has an official tithe
Pierre_Rochard: for example: amazon would pay little to no tax on profits. Yet their consuming lots of benefits from the state (presumably)
ben_vulpes: profitless companies don't really fly in la serenissima. yet, at least.
ben_vulpes: and in any case, those tithing will make the call on their own.
bounce: you know, first time I see this thing is it getting signed.
bounce: bit of a bummer, I'd say.
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ben_vulpes: bounce: you want discussion of it? a wiki?
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> I wonder which corporations will move to that profit model << bitcoin corps, basically.
mircea_popescu: <Pierre_Rochard> “pay a tax in sum of 0.1% or a hundred thousand satoshi per full Bitcoin realised” <- Is this tax on profit or revenues? << profit
mircea_popescu: * BingoBoingo enjoying that out cult nao has an official tithe <<< all that's missing for full blown religion is the weird robes.
bounce: "your mother dresses you funny". there, all done.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> * BingoBoingo enjoying that out cult nao has an official tithe <<< all that's missing for full blown religion is the weird robes. << Get nubbins' to print them!
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard> for example: amazon would pay little to no tax on profits. Yet their consuming lots of benefits from the state (presumably) << i dunno how that is supposed to stand. if they're not making a profit then their users are deriving all the benefit.
bounce: you don't get why that's a bummer? that's really bad.
bounce: actually, no. certainly not now.
ben_vulpes: it's just an alternate reality game yo
ben_vulpes: CHAPTER TWO: IN WHICH THE USIANS LOSE THEIR HEADS
BingoBoingo: Silkscreening is what makes the robes weird
Apocalyptic: "That's absurd. The whole Lavabit episode actually indicates how strong the CA infrastructure really is", hearn
mircea_popescu: not an easy task, finding such among the pile at his disposal.
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assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Your dividend payment for S. - Pastebin.com
punkbot: mircea_popescu: Queued 2 valid deeds for next bundle.
punkbot: mircea_popescu: 2 pending deeds | Last bundle 43 minutes ago
mircea_popescu: punkman can the punkbot skip the pgp header all the way to the next \n after "Hash:" ?
mircea_popescu: and can it put say 32 bytes so obtained off each deed in a " ; " separated list that it pastes here ?
mircea_popescu: and can it also use the first line as the title of the document always, so the "Title: " magic words are no longer needed in deeds ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31468 @ 0.00055921 = 17.5972 BTC [-]
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punkbot: mircea_popescu: Balance at 1LAwrWMbPLLSpt7nkD5Jv1Yf4cwPhD98ny is 0.01383 BTC (0.0 unconfirmed), enough for 125 more bundles.
cazalla: mircea_popescu: cazalla pls to gazette <<< looks like BingoBoingo did so while i was sleeping
assbot: There should be, ideally, a qntra for every topic, where experts simply tell the truth, plainly, in form and style. Would people get it?
RagnarDanneskjol: deednoon|(somerandomnumber) must be someone who logged in from deedbot.com irc web client fyi
punkbot: chetty: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.
punkman: mircea_popescu: I'll make it grab, say the first 100 chars on the first line and use that for titles.
punkman: and what about announcing titles here
mircea_popescu: i would think take out the "bundle made" thing entirely
punkman: yeah ok, was more useful before the website existed
punkman: will just announce confirms
mircea_popescu: you can have it pm if you want for debug purposes or w/e, but otherwise kind-of redundant in chan
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00055921 / 0.00059478 / 0.000603 (235238 shares, 139.92 BTC), 7D: 0.00055921 / 0.00071558 / 0.00078536 (3467149 shares, 2,481.04 BTC), 30D: 0.00055921 / 0.00074278 / 0.00081111 (24002339 shares, 17,828.57 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120000 @ 0.00057053 = 68.4636 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: PeterL hey listen, can you make a website for the scoopbot bot ? put it under blogs.bitcoin-assets.com liek before ?
mircea_popescu: i think pankkake published the code he was using somewhere
PeterL: mircea_popescu: sure, it is something I was planning to do soon
PeterL: ;;rate kakobrekla 2 bitbet, assbot, etc
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Adlai: "absolved from all allegiance to any entity… is to pay a tax into the coffers of the Bitcoin Foundation"
kakobrekla: below it sez >Proudly brought to you by Incloudibly.
kakobrekla: incloudibly ? i think they are the ones that down allow irc bots
mircea_popescu: scams as geological features now, what's next, libertardism as a natural satellite ?
mircea_popescu: <Adlai> "absolved from all allegiance to any entity… is to pay a tax into the coffers of the Bitcoin Foundation" << you gotta re-read.
punkman: suppose everyone in assbot wot signs the declaration. doesn't make too much sense to keep 450 copies of the same document.
Adlai: what exactly did i miss?
mircea_popescu: Adlai : "absolved from all allegiance to any entity ; if you pay this much no one can ask for more"
punkman: well even if I keep 450 copies, would be nice to detect it and present a special page with the document and a list of signatures
mircea_popescu: punkbot suppose 200 of those people sign subtly different versions.