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mircea_popescu: yeah, inasmuch as
gavin tiptoes around my lunch hour, i would propose they're painfully aware of it, yes.
cazalla: so when did vessenes become involved in the foundation, from what i'm reading, it was
gavin that floated and promoted the idea of it back in october 2011 (piecing together some history as suggested by.. who, i forget)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: BitcoinXT is the hearn foundation Bitcoin fork which has all kinds of features even
Gavin rejected because they make nodes incredibly more DoS attackable
mircea_popescu: meh i canbt find it. anyway, it was yet another of the "bitcoin has failed" but this one was because "greed made it not applaud
gavin"
thestringpuller: humor me hypothetical of MP and
Gavin joining forces after declaration of war?
pete_dushenski:
gavin will always be an enemy because he's also woefully incompetent
thestringpuller: In La Serenissima, enemy is always enemy. Do not think reality exists where
Gavin earns real trust.
NewLiberty: Anyhow, WRT
Gavin, he may yet listen and end up less bad.
danielpbarron: that is true, because
gavin has nothing to do with bitcoin
NewLiberty: XBT will kill USD regardless of what
Gavin may or may not do
danielpbarron: the "problem"
gavin is trying to solve is "bitcoin will kill the dollar"
NewLiberty: "If this forks as currently proposed, I'll be selling all my BTC on
Gavin's fork and mining on the other. I suspect I will not be the only one."
NewLiberty: Yes,
Gavin's proposal is bad, I've been complaining about it for months
danielpbarron: in your defense, you said you don't like
gavin's proposal
pete_dushenski: fuckin eh this silbert guy thinks that he can avoid the fate of hearn and
gavin mircea_popescu: "He has made an investment in up to 10k nodes that would be obsolete if
Gavin pushes through his hard fork."
thestringpuller: nubbins`: MP is more trusted than all random forum muppets and
Gavin combined. Like parent to child, "I don't have to explain myself to you."
danielpbarron: "Thanks. This is very enlightening and reveals the true motivations behind Mircea Popescu objections. He has made an investment in up to 10k nodes that would be obsolete if
Gavin pushes through his hard fork. Why doesn't he honestly bring to the community these concerns as one of his principle motivations so we can try and find a solution together? The fact that he is not being forthright with this concern is troubling to sa
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids tons of things. qntra.net took over the business of bitcoin news.
gavin has been shot in the head, foundation's over, bitcoin "development" past 0.5.x is being considered for deletion
mircea_popescu: at this point i'm not even sure
gavin jumping off the coq d'argent would qualify as bitcoin news.
thestringpuller: can't wait to read on qntra one day: "
Gavin Admits to Being USG Agent, Leaves Bitcoin Forever"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: re: could you imaginge if
Gavin was magically replaced by ryanxcharles?
whaack: Is everyone in this channel dumping their coins on
Gavin's big blockchain?
PeterL: but according to
gavin, disk space doubles every year, so you should not worry about bloat!!!1!
cazalla: at this rate, housing might outpace
gavin's blocksize roadmap
mircea_popescu: metzger could be that blind schmuck in systemd could be
gavin etc.
ben_vulpes: beetcoin: the last time
gavin tried to change bitcoin in one of these "fundamental" ways, he burned a lot of capital fixing all of the idiots bitcoinds who went with him.
mircea_popescu: yeah, because
gavin really has a coupla k bitcoins laying around to "repay" the miners that bit a steel girder by trusting him.
mircea_popescu: yaya, fake foudation doesn't actually have what to pay
gavin with for the rest of this year. had they stayed in the us they'd have been open to some pretty lulzy litigation.
mircea_popescu: i find it quite amusing how
gavin's 5th column are trying to turn their laughable defeat around into a sort of victory along the lines of "well we can';t have what we want, and that's okay as long as you admit democratic process".
mircea_popescu: this doesn't mean me and eight other dudes get to vote on how to use
gavin's wife.
IHB: @petertoddbtc @trilema @oocBlog @BryceWeiner @JustusRanvier @fredwilson @balajis In regards to scalability and the perceived threat facing the bitcoin ecosystem I am still not convinced we have a problem here.
Gavin has been talking about this for a little while now and it shouldn’t surprise anyone of us that he is publicly trying to get a proposal ready so the full nodes can vote on it. 1. If 80% of the full nodes v
bitcoinquestions: If the blockchain were to fork into 2 chains. 1 chain where the blocksize limit was the
Gavin scam and 1 chain where it was kept at 1MB, can't everyone just profit by selling their coins on the scam chain and rebuying back the coins on the old chain?
thestringpuller: "No,
Gavin said this can still run on a normal internet connection. Other alt-coin have "master node" and all that crap. Nobody force anyone to be a full node, and nobody that is currently running a full node is complaining.
davout: danielpbarron: i heard
gavin andresen wants to add a couple extra chapters to it, for moar adopshun
bitcoinquestions: And there's no way
Gavin doesn't know exactly what he's doing, right? Like is it possible he convinced himself that it was a good idea?
bitcoinquestions: mircea_popescu: I did a lot more critical thinking about the blocksize limit and holy shit I feel so dumb for ever thinking
Gavin's proposal was a good idea.
BingoBoingo: Question for the foundation: When futzing with bitcoin sources to build more recent phoundation version, changing the constant in alert.cpp to garbage will keep a node so built from recognizing and/or passing a
Gavin alert. Yes or no?
bitcoinquestions: mircea_popescu: Do you have proof that
Gavin and some USG mole is trying to implement some attack on bitcoin? What has made you come to this conclusion?
mircea_popescu: so : a)
gavin is in no way involved in bitcoin development ; b)
gavin's insanities have nothing to do with bitcoin's problems, and in no case are they solutions. as you'd expect of someone who has nothing to do with it in the first place.
assbot: Third pass addressing the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the very stupid people that like the
Gavin scamcoin proposal pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1vzm5Zm )
bitcoinquestions: yo i dug through your posts on trilema about how you think
Gavin is sabotaging bitcoin or whatever for wanting to increase the block size. Are you afraid of DDOS attacks because there are not enough full nodes?
mircea_popescu: when it's decided
gavin is of no further utility for bitcoin, it's decided here.
mircea_popescu: and defo more than the lousy one year salary
gavin got for attempting (and failing) some
mircea_popescu: just talk around the math involved, hire the people out of work once
gavin gets forgotten about.
mircea_popescu: moreover,
gavin is about as unfrequentable intellectually as quisling
phillipsjk: good point.
Gavin's proposal is just that: a proposal.
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk i am not seriously lowering the discourse to
gavin's insanities. a matter of principle is being discussed there, not the irrelevant gargle of whatever derp.
trinque:
gavin can't have shamcoin because bitcoin does not work that way, too bad
mircea_popescu: <trinque> sure one can't apprehend reality in some objective way << if this is true, how come
gavin's not getting what he wants ?
mircea_popescu: which is why i don't particularly mind
gavin trying to create a scamcoin, nor whatever "public oppinion" support he may muster.
mircea_popescu: all the people who act all shocked when
gavin & co can't get enough credit to write a hello world in basic fail to recognize about two years of history trying to gently nudge, then educate, then eventually beat the idiots into some sort of shape
mircea_popescu: "The "Bitcoin Foundation" poured an unforgiveable number of coins into the market to feed
Gavin Andresen and his family…and for what? 3 years of development that's just about to get flushed down the drain? The appearance of relevance without any of the hard work of thinking and making things work correctly? [...] Consider the tragedy wrought by an internet forum accidentally blessed with untold riches and weep."
assbot: Third pass addressing the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the people that like the
Gavin scamcoin proposal:
http://t.co/oQfE8dIu1s mircea_popescu: "My understanding is a lot of heavily weighted entities in the ecosystem already support
Gavin's proposed course."
thestringpuller: one of them iirc was "
Gavin Proposes Pooping Out New Fork"
mircea_popescu: "Now i see.
Gavin announced chaos and drama to the press because he himself intends to create it. He gets a 30% veto and still wants to proceed. It's gonna rip. I just switched to Litecoin."
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes:
gavin andresen is unchangeably biased against solutions that preserve scarcity semantics. <<< that's not even it. a princeton graduate that lives in amherst mass and has suckled the usg privilege tit all his life to the exclusion of anything else is going to make it so we can't verify bitcoin transactions or integrity anymore in order to "save africa" by allowing them microtransactions they don't either nee
ben_vulpes:
gavin andresen is unchangeably biased against solutions that preserve scarcity semantics.
mircea_popescu: why does
gavin behave exactly like a cheap forum scammor ?
mircea_popescu: [–]wonderkindel 5 points 8 days ago
Gavin sees a major shitstorm ahead, does not know of any way out, but hopes that cartels of honest miners will materialize to keep the dream wet.
mircea_popescu: it only works for rich, smart people, but then again let
gavin have africa, and graham sillycon valley, they'll have fun together.
felipelalli: to "confiscated" the gold (I heard about that but I have to study more deeply). I came to this conclusion because I know bitcoin can't be available 24/7 forever. It will eventually fail in some situation (for example during a bad made hard fork - either because
Gavin's gang spoiled or not) and at that time everybody should already is using some strong second coin to be used as backup during a temporary "bitcoin blackout". I think this coin
felipelalli: Hi gang noise! :] (sorry if I can't express myself very well in English) First of all, I want to apologize for that "
gavin day", really sorry about that.
mircea_popescu: heh, the
gavin idiots. "The chart below illustrates the growth in the number of transactions per day along with Bitcoin's market cap1. There is a strong correlation between the two variables2. If the correlation continues to hold, it suggests that the 1 MB blocksize limit may also limit Bitcoin's future liquidity and adoption. 1I've plotted the number of transactions excluding popular addresses to remove the on-chain
mircea_popescu: you can distinguish the usg agents from the random muppet by this simple pretense : once
gavin's ideas are crushed in the open, does he continue as if nothing happened ?
pete_dushenski: Ha so
Gavin. RT @jokeocracy: the unwritten thirteenth Rule for Radicals: the guy demanding ACTION NOW is probably an undercover fed