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BingoBoingo: Stunna's been running his dice thing for quite some time. Never used it, but its enough to open an opportunity to interpret what he is doin charitably.
Stunna: we give people a significant amount more if they've wagered one coin though
Stunna: and it progresses as a user wagers more and gains levels
gabriel_laddel: Stunna: This is why I was asking. Google's OCR will solve your CAPCHA.
gabriel_laddel: and generating names is... easy.
BingoBoingo not really a dice person. More into event betting.
asciilifeform: sucker bait?
asciilifeform must've logged in through the box connected to time warp modem, to 2011
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I checked. No sub $31 BTC to be had today
asciilifeform: the sucker bait's $0
asciilifeform: so technically - false
Stunna: gabriel_laddel: yup it definitely could
BingoBoingo: Ah
Stunna: You wouldn't make enough to be worth your while though on fresh accounts
Stunna: and all the high leveled accounts that bot it end up getting banned
gabriel_laddel is confused as to why anyone would play dice online
asciilifeform likewise confused
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: Our confusion is Chinese recreation
BingoBoingo: When just dice was a thing, the Chicoms loved it
gabriel_laddel: ;; ud Chinese recreation
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Parks+and+Recreation | Cast includes Amy Poelher, Nick Offerman, Aziz Ansari etc. Guy 1: What are you watching? Guy 2: Just watching the best show ever Parks and Recreation.
BingoBoingo: Stunna: What's your read on the Micon/Poker business?
danielpbarron: not usually a fan of TV, but I do like that show ^
Stunna: I talked to him via PM briefly, what he said happened definitely seems genuine
Stunna: he's working on his new site
BingoBoingo: Amazing how the US is going to shit isn't it.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
asciilifeform: http://www.aif.ru/society/law/1457211 << lulz. seven citizens of spain who fought for ua rebels and returned home - arrested for 'violating the neutrality of spain' and 'violation of sovereign nation'
assbot: В Испании прошли облавы на участников войны в Донбассе | Право | Общество | Аргументы и Факты ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHp3uI )
asciilifeform: the first, article claims, such arrest in europe.
asciilifeform: especially funny that - spain.
BingoBoingo: Well, Franco was a trendsetter
asciilifeform: iirc sp technically never made peace with ru. ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: The daughters Schwartz were walking home, and see a sign "Become Catholic, receive $50"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If your shiva hands have time to do a quick irony piece... qntra...
gabriel_laddel: Eliana: Wow, 50! Let's try it out
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hard to stretch that to fit qntra news theme, methinks
gabriel_laddel: * Eliana enters the church while Abigail waits outside. *
gabriel_laddel: Eliana returns. "Well did it work?"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: With your standards for blog text probably would be hard to stretch it into something satisfying you as an author.
BingoBoingo: Just hard to say what one thinks of the prior day's destractions when they wake the next day.
gabriel_laddel: "Nope. All he did was sprinkle some holy water on me and say 'your father in heaven accepts you. Amen'"
gabriel_laddel: "Well did you get the $50?"
gabriel_laddel: Eliana: "All you jews think about is money!"
BingoBoingo still thinks of BTC related use for numbers station
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel Maybe consider less descriptive quit messages?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
danielpbarron: he didn't quit
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: CLient did, apparently violently
BingoBoingo: !up Stunna
Stunna: sorry, on very lousy internet
BingoBoingo: Stunna: Some asshole has a DoS bot running
danielpbarron: he is still connected to freenode
BingoBoingo: * gabriel_laddel [redated] has left #bitcoin-assets ("Killed buffer")
Stunna: BingoBoingo: don't think it's related to that, the internet I've been using past few days has been dying on me every 20mins or so
BingoBoingo: Stunna: Ah,
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: ty
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132105 @ 0.00039848 = 52.6412 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Optimization problems http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2015/02/27/pains_and_good_old_med_chem.php#1663951
assbot: PAINs And Good Old Med Chem. In the Pipeline: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHsUrD )
BingoBoingo: "How about thalidamide? Thalidamide appears inactive in NCI-60 screens and appears to fail to inhibit angiogensis in in vitro screen. Thalidamide tested in vivo, however, significantly inhibits tumor growth in xenograft models that use multiple myeloma, esophageal squamous cell carcinoma, lung cancer, cervical cancer, and melanoma. Thalidamide when dosed in combo with bevacizumab and docetaxel showed remarkable efficacy in phase I
BingoBoingo: I trials." ^
BingoBoingo: Probably my favorite blog comment in history http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-8472
assbot: Loper OS » Of Decaying Urbits. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHudH2 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41500 @ 0.00039706 = 16.478 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: what a scam. i lost my free 200 satoshis on the first roll
mike_c: Stunna: that must be working for you. genius idea.
mike_c: omg. and you're getting some back from ads. fricking genius.
Stunna: mike_c: A very very small amount back
mike_c: yeah, but, it's only 200 satoshis. Is that method working for you guys? not sure how long you've been doing the faucet.
Stunna: It's 200 satoshis until you've wagered 1BTC
Stunna: as an anti-bot measure, then it steps up quite considerably
Stunna: as you gain levels
mike_c: even still. just letting people play without having to deposit first seems like a great idea.
mike_c: by the time you lose it, you're maybe hooked.
BingoBoingo: Seems like a way to keep people playing a game where "advanced" play is simply botting your balance to 0 faster. Honest stuff.
mike_c: ;;calc (2 / 1000) - (.000002 * [ticker --last])
gribble: 0.001494
mike_c: ^ 200 satoshis is worth less than an ad view at $2 cpm ☟︎
mike_c: so it's like, free to give away
BingoBoingo: Basically it seems. Changetip territory
mircea_popescu: hmmm anyone want josh-zerlan.com ?
mircea_popescu: i guess nobody gives a shit about bfl anymore huh
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Aren't they liquidating on craigslist?
BingoBoingo trying to drunkwatch the newly public domain citizenfour
mircea_popescu: i dunno lol
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for extra lulz, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugx-2tZgVJs
assbot: Nakam - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1BomNtc )
BingoBoingo: lol, snowden with the blanket over the head
BingoBoingo: lol fire alarm
BingoBoingo: Per the film Snowden was fingered much earlier than news stories suggest
trinque: !v deedbot-
assbot: Invalid verfication string.
trinque: erp
trinque: !up d9b4bef9
asciilifeform: http://blog.adacore.com/tetris-in-spark-on-arm-cortex-m4
assbot: Tetris in SPARK on ARM Cortex M4 - The AdaCore Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHKyeU )
trinque: god damn it :p
trinque: !up deedbot-
trinque: deedbot-: add-key http://dpaste.com/0ADRZ22.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHKBHB )
deedbot-: imported: FC66C0C5D98C42A1D4A98B6B42F9985AFAB953C4
trinque: deedbot-: add-deed http://dpaste.com/383KC8G.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHKH1L )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
trinque: ^ demo ☟︎
trinque: uploads to http://deedbot.org
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHKJXx )
trinque: https://blockchain.info/address/1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES << note the unconfirmed txn
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHLkZi )
trinque: if anyone wants to eyeball that and give feedback, please do
trinque: provided this is doing what's desired I'll cron job the publishing part
asciilifeform: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~puk/tetris.txt << from comments, tetris in traditional ada
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHLujf )
trinque: other than that, I need to build the part that announces the new bundle link in here
cazalla: so i made a bitbet under the influence and couldn't fund it until later, i assume 0 conf address listed for it in /propositions/ is the address of which i need to fund? ☟︎
trinque: and now that bundle is published
trinque: http://deedbot.org/345476-1BmCmRjEcKCdJ7AywLPTv9zsHti4n6Gs2a.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHLDTS )
trinque: I also need to automate it being aware of having been sent new funds; it keeps its own count
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90950 @ 0.00041108 = 37.3877 BTC [+]
trinque: so I have to insert new funding txns into its transaction table
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5604 @ 0.00040829 = 2.2881 BTC [-]
trinque: asciilifeform: looks a lot like plpgsql
trinque: I'm sure the relationship goes the other way round
asciilifeform entirely innocent of above, cannot comment
asciilifeform notes that ada draft dates to '79
asciilifeform: iirc.
BingoBoingo: !up chatquack
BingoBoingo: Greenwald and hour in totally has shitgnome smell
trinque: asciilifeform: oracle squeezed out plsql in 91
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they used the real one ?!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Appears to be actual HK snowden tape for much of the film
asciilifeform for some reason thought it was a hollywood production
trinque: greenwald has that smug sjw vibe to him
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Seems to be actual documentary
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Pins snowden as suspected well before unveilling
trinque: BingoBoingo: you think snowden's an act?
BingoBoingo: trinque: Not snowden, watching film as presented Greenwald probably an act
trinque: how so?
BingoBoingo: trinque: Public domain because court. Torrent at leisure
trinque: yeah I watched it
trinque: just curious as to what you think greenwald's upt o
trinque: snowden looked genuinely flushed with fear at the fire alarm
trinque: hard to fake
asciilifeform: up to << sitting on the docs pile ?
asciilifeform: like other bipedal turds (e.g., schneier)
trinque: mmm, he could be the guy limiting the hang-out?
asciilifeform: everyone with access to the goods who hasn't dumped them to public unredacted and whole is ipso facto part of that set.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Snowden seemed panic'd Greenwald seemed something other.
trinque: could be
BingoBoingo not finished with film
BingoBoingo: Yet
BingoBoingo: Greenwald jsut seems stressed at the wrong times
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what reason is there to think that the film is of actual events ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The part where snowden seems aspie clumsie as opposed to trained actor clumsy suggests this just might be historical snowden
trinque: flushing with fear on command is to my knowledge not possible ☟︎
asciilifeform: as if one can't get arbitrarily clumsy theatre student
asciilifeform: trinque: point an actual loaded rifle at the actor. optionally, fire over his head. was actually done in su on at least one film set
trinque: snowden could've been handled the whole way
trinque: !up deedbot-
trinque: asciilifeform: true
asciilifeform: (naturally, in a scene where this is not expected, and out of edge of camera)
trinque: ultimately this functions very well, constructed or not, right?
trinque: there was some "big leak" recently that stank of intelligence agency
trinque: obviously a new channel through which to broadcast that which must be assumed to be true, because it's "leaked!"
BingoBoingo is leaning towards authentic on the accumulation of amateurisms actor and camera.
asciilifeform: new channel << lol!
asciilifeform: !s hangout
assbot: 42 results for 'hangout' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hangout
trinque: asciilifeform: I mean the social news cycle fad "leak" is now established
asciilifeform: the 'new' dates to at least... richelieu.
trinque: sure, I guess I was talking about in the context of modern US politics
BingoBoingo: Film definitely points to a leak in the hotel room
trinque: but you're right
BingoBoingo: !up nanotube
BingoBoingo: Hour 20 so in Guardian censors shown at work
asciilifeform: the living ones ?
asciilifeform: filmed with what, arse cam ?
BingoBoingo: appears to have been flattering arse cam "heroic angle" edition
asciilifeform: http://docs.adacore.com/spark2014-docs/html/ug/getting_started.html << interesting simple example
assbot: 1. Getting Started with SPARK — SPARK 2014 Toolset User's Guide 16.0.0w documentation ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ak5e87 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48000 @ 0.0004082 = 19.5936 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74550 @ 0.00040227 = 29.9892 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wanna write the first provably-correct pgp ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: when did you become a fan of provably anything software?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It would be at least a couple years out
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i've historically been a skeptic of 'provably' whatevers, because the required furniture, in my experience, never failed to interfere with 'fits in head' - and the promised are often overblown
asciilifeform: *promises
asciilifeform: but so long as your expectations are realistic, something like what's described in earlier link (an excruciatingly-fascist subset of ada) doesn't hurt
ben_vulpes: excruciating subset doesn't hurt?
asciilifeform: well, stops hurting after your arse dilates to fit
ben_vulpes: paha.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Looking like might be necessary
asciilifeform: i can't recommend this for 'tetris' (that was a homework)
asciilifeform: but for something like a battlefield bitcoind, this kind of thing probably cannot be avoided.
ben_vulpes: cannot be avoided?
ben_vulpes: thing works, what.
asciilifeform: lol works
asciilifeform: would you bet a planet on that ?
ben_vulpes: i've not the planet.
asciilifeform: even a lowly airplane has triple+ majority-circuit cpu
asciilifeform: a fucking airplane.
ben_vulpes: well bitcoin ain't an airplane.
asciilifeform: where only some piddling 300 life insurance policies have to be paid out ☟︎
ben_vulpes: the life insurance policies are dwarfed by the operational costs and value of the machine in question.
BingoBoingo: !s power rangers
assbot: 56 results for 'power rangers' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=power+rangers
ben_vulpes: perhaps talk to others who are risking 'a planet' worth of btc already on...extant btc.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: depends who's aboard
ben_vulpes: my point is that large fractions of a planet's worth of btc are already bet on btc.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: kings, queens in the past sailed on vessels that no one in their right mind would climb on today
asciilifeform: what of that.
ben_vulpes: anyways, it's fri.
asciilifeform: they let the 'doctors' bleed them, too.
ben_vulpes: wine and sutff calls.
BingoBoingo: Ah, movie has film of grinding boards
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: See https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5835#issuecomment-76318668 for depths of Gavin's optimizing away security.
assbot: Optimize block validation code and block propagation speed by gavinandresen · Pull Request #5835 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1JXq0FQ )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34400 @ 0.00040306 = 13.8653 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26909 @ 0.00040896 = 11.0047 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10491 @ 0.00041437 = 4.3472 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: re: proof: studious readers of log may recall the old thread where we spoke of general-case attributes of a proggy being unprovable
asciilifeform: (this trivially follows from turing's 'halting theorem.' no need to invoke herr gödel even.)
asciilifeform: but you can still do a few useful tricks like taint/flow analysis
asciilifeform: e.g., show that output of ecdsa signing routine can only be affected by the given parameters and not by anything else
asciilifeform: this naturally rests on the 'turtles' and 'elephants' of your priors, e.g. hardware functioning as printed on the box, and so on
asciilifeform: so not a magical guarantee (want guarantees, pray to the gods?)
asciilifeform: but still light-years ahead of just-winging-it-in-c, so long as the required 'furniture' isn't fifty pounds of fetid haskellian squigglies printed on telephone book paper
asciilifeform: but something that looks more like a programming lang you might've learned as a kid.
asciilifeform: and the result 'fits in head'
BingoBoingo: Hour 45 in Snowden iitator is described as hanging self
BingoBoingo: metaphorically
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#506836 << example of me vomiting at proof-of-anything. but it seems to me now that there were not one but two usg 'monasteries' where the concept was developed ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-02-2014 02:58:15; asciilifeform: the entire field, giving its history and monetary incentives, is a poisonous offering.
asciilifeform: one, academia, where they spew obscurantist haskellian garbage that serves solely to make perpetrators 'look smart' and pull each other's cocks;
asciilifeform: and another where the rocket actually gets flown on occasion
asciilifeform: and heads (at least once did) roll upon failure
asciilifeform: this is merely a hypothesis in my mind, i'm putting it here for others to ponder.
asciilifeform: call it megalomania, but i'm fascinated with a certain kind of engineering
BingoBoingo: So first hour of citizenfour, maybe valuable hsitorical aritifact same for last 10 minutes. Middle portion agrandizes names lacking justification for such
asciilifeform: as in, how would you engineer if, were your creations to fail, everything you have ever loved will be tortured and killed by nazi cannibals for the rest of eternity; every truth you hold dear will be buried and never seen again, etc, etc
BingoBoingo: Obummer specificaly indicted several times
BingoBoingo: Final portion of film with Snowden very different in journalist behavior from inital portion with presumably historic snowden
asciilifeform: how would you engineer if every morning you got to see a colleague slowly lowered into a piraña tank for having made a mistake ?
BingoBoingo: Clear subtext of final 10 minutes is that aspiring Snowden 2.0 ended dead or on anthill
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34006 @ 0.00040162 = 13.6575 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo to downtime and reflecting on further paranoia
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32144 @ 0.0003998 = 12.8512 BTC [-]
trinque: asciilifeform: we just need to take on problems with actual risk
asciilifeform: trinque: elaborate
trinque: king says I want a moon base
trinque: everyone's making app things
trinque: or flipping burgers
asciilifeform: king, if he has any sense, begins with 'i want a tetris and underlying stack that doesn't crash, and if it does, you+extended family get intimate with anthills'
trinque: I think we'll benefit greatly from the hostility of space
asciilifeform: try the ice cap training wheels first.
trinque: maybe we're fat and lazy because earth hasn't put up enough of a fight
trinque: I tend to pine for some period of harsh weather and natural disasters as yeah, training wheels
asciilifeform: the best fight is put up by 'homo homini lupus est'
asciilifeform: weather doesn't plan to kill you.
trinque: that is true
asciilifeform is firm believer in 'war is the father of all' (TM)
trinque: we are certainly not grazing animals, nor should we behave like them
trinque: asciilifeform: less wolf than social insect though isn't it?
trinque: perhaps if they fought each other for social position
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76400 @ 0.00040585 = 31.0069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00041437 = 9.1576 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139706 @ 0.00039756 = 55.5415 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2994 @ 0.00039649 = 1.1871 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11509 @ 0.00041437 = 4.769 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25670 @ 0.00041666 = 10.6957 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74256 @ 0.00039649 = 29.4418 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46844 @ 0.00039377 = 18.4458 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Quattlebaum is an awesome Richter name.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2015#1035594 << would you say the same of the original richter ? he was an immigrant. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 20:45:01; ascii_field: the racket is open to 'favourite sons' exclusively.
asciilifeform: which richter
mircea_popescu: the heamul project one. you recall, generalissimo peron was going to get cold fusion going.
asciilifeform: outside of usg - rules different, sure; foreigners invited to work their magic
asciilifeform: even usg, in the not too distant past, did this
asciilifeform: (germans, etc)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2015#1035617 << i appreciate the .1 lulz. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 23:29:14; cazalla: for anyone that recalls shrem's attempt to lure investors into a scheme last month.. it already shut.. weeks ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=906838.msg10370543#msg10370543
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69956 @ 0.00039377 = 27.5466 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform uh, not what i meant. peron's usg is an usg exactly like obama's usg, right ?
mircea_popescu: or is one special among all the idiot bureaucracies for reasons (tm)
asciilifeform: just pointing out bureaucracy functioning in a particular mode of idiocy
mircea_popescu: but wait.
asciilifeform: inviting cranks from abroad - altogether different ballgame from locally cultivated cynical graft
mircea_popescu: obviously they'd operate on a (being scammed) to (merit washing) continuum. it won't be either 0% or 100%.
mircea_popescu: it'll be in between. right ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45494 @ 0.00039182 = 17.8255 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: in any given instance of meritwash, somebody's being chumped (various folks who swallow the snake oil)
mircea_popescu: no, the govt itself.
asciilifeform: as a logical entity - sure
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2015#1035660 << kinda the problem with giveaways : they attract exactly the scum, those you specifically do not want to deal with. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 23:59:53; Stunna: The amount given away is pretty minimal due to botters
mircea_popescu: whether actual bots or just human equivalents.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would guess that the successful instances of actual merit wash, as opposed to usg being straight scammed, to be under 10%.
mircea_popescu: that pellet of usd that htey lost in iraq, that went to the arabs more than to the pansy ass sons of - sons of whom anyway ? patreus ?
asciilifeform: thing is, with scam, the question is always 'why does this fella get to run this scam and not some other'
asciilifeform: not always there is a logical answer, granted
mircea_popescu: "why does this guy take the slut home and not some other ?"
asciilifeform: not even always this level of answer
mircea_popescu: if you ask the slut, often enough it's because "he's the only one that asked, and i was getting bored" ☟︎
asciilifeform: but sometimes - there is.
asciilifeform: because, in a well-cultivated sc4mz0r0cr4cy with multigenerational rackets, there is usually an established pecking order
asciilifeform: and dynasties
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1035693 << they did when they went into eu ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 00:12:16; asciilifeform: iirc sp technically never made peace with ru.
asciilifeform: example, http://www.delcoremyhistory.com/Products/missilebattery.htm
assbot: Delco Remy Division - Product History - Missile Battery ... ( http://bit.ly/1LTO1t0 )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure. the thing about them orders and dynasties is... they do not work.
asciilifeform: ^ these folks are -still- making it
asciilifeform: platinum-iridium toilet
asciilifeform: not mere gold.
mircea_popescu: so ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now -that's- interesting. got a link to the treaty ?
mircea_popescu: for every 10 bux of this there's 100 bux of "we got raped and had to pay the rapist for his cab fare"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform Посольство Испании ул. Большая Никитская, 50/8, Москва, Rusia, 121069 ‎
mircea_popescu: ya know ?
asciilifeform: ^ could co-exist with a technically unfinished state of war
mircea_popescu: no ?
asciilifeform: otoh the original war was never declared, iirc
asciilifeform: so whole line of thought goes nowhere
mircea_popescu: well im not really THAT into it, but i recall part of the eu assumption conditions was "no territorial disputes and no unresolved conflicts"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1035740 << the power of bitcoin decimal depth. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 00:51:31; mike_c: ^ 200 satoshis is worth less than an ad view at $2 cpm
asciilifeform - as ben_vulpes will be entertained to learn - just opened a 'macbook air' in dire need of a modern-sized drive to discover that said box made use of an obscure type of disk interface previously unknown to him, with aftermarket units only available from cn
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1035767 << could the command be less verbose ? no : and no add- whatever. make it like deedbot- deed http://etc ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 01:51:12; trinque: ^ demo
asciilifeform only opened it because had an ssd from visually identical machine of the same make, which turned out to be incompatible.
trinque: mircea_popescu: certainly
asciilifeform: what does ben_vulpes do with his apple boxen? just throws them out when disk fills ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1035866 << read your policy carefully. plenty actually don't pay if you get airplane killed. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 02:56:12; asciilifeform: where only some piddling 300 life insurance policies have to be paid out
asciilifeform unsurprised, recalls a list of similar gotchas that added up to 'give us money because you're retarded'
mircea_popescu: mhm.
asciilifeform: but basic point is that machine doesn't just cost what machine costs, but some actuarial numbers based on what the corpses' legal reps are likely to attempt/achieve
asciilifeform: plus whatever it falls down on
asciilifeform: (who said it had to be the sea)
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/9747d981c7cc8f7b1fef72d03e06f4d8/tumblr_n1t29cPPlh1rm4ufeo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1wwij3s )
decimation: re: snowden film : he seems pretty genuine to me
decimation: but he also seems rather aggrandizing
asciilifeform did not see the film, but will say that he could probably produce a 'snowden' film with an arbitrarily high degree of 'truthiness' given a few $10M-usd
mircea_popescu: you're nuts you know.
mircea_popescu: dude, they can't even make a film looking credible on 100mn.
asciilifeform: can't or don't want/need ?
mircea_popescu: just look at the crud that gets released. and that's on "normal" topics, girl meets boy or w/e.
asciilifeform: the 64-quadrillion-bzollar question, nein ?
mircea_popescu: to get an idea of what 10mn buys you, check out tucker max' film.
asciilifeform: what did 'clerks' cost ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/ << watch this. srsly. that's 10mn.
assbot: I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell (2009) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/1wwiLia )
mircea_popescu: and i dunno how truthy clerks looked to you ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=clerks.htm
assbot: Clerks (1994) - Box Office Mojo ... ( http://bit.ly/1wwiP1x )
asciilifeform never sure if ever to believe these figures as they are traditionally ultra-lowballed for tax purposes
mircea_popescu: the major difference here being that your example is some kids having fun, my example is some idiot trying to force a meme.
mircea_popescu: your idea is like my example not like your example.
asciilifeform: hm.
mircea_popescu: actually they aren't. tax deductions abound.
asciilifeform confesses to having only a very basic familiarity with the subject
mircea_popescu: well, i'm not the king of tinseltown, however, on the grounds of my cursory familiarty with the topic of making movies (ie, being a producer),
mircea_popescu: what you propose (a forced meme film that is secretly made) can not be done. period.
asciilifeform: forced meme ?
mircea_popescu: you can't get the budget high enough without making secrecy impossible.
mircea_popescu: yes.
asciilifeform: get the budget high enough without making secrecy impossible << this is right back to the 64-quadrillion-bzollar question. the dept-of-breaking-pgp gets $maxint and remains totally secret - not to say that they've succeeded or even tried, but we have no idea how much cocaine they were able to buy with the $maxint, nor the carat purity of the gold of which their toilets were made
decimation: the journalists are made to look like buffoons
mircea_popescu: this is silly.
mircea_popescu: "can god make a rock so big and hide it so well he ends up making another one ???"
asciilifeform: what'd count as a -real, indisputable- usg leak? example: info leading to perma-pwn of a whole constellation (hell, why not all of them) of usg orbiting junk
asciilifeform: as insinuated in that cryptome thing (pretty good yarn, recommended)
asciilifeform: essentially, something so utterly catastrophic to usg that it could not possibly be a hangout ☟︎
asciilifeform: or even a hangout-gone-botched
asciilifeform: something from which no recovery is possible, any more than from shooting self in the head with a 'stinger'
asciilifeform: (yes, not physically possible, but for sake of argument!)
asciilifeform: or, going back to more familiar ground, the microcode update key perma-baked into all intel cpu since '95
asciilifeform: or the locations of all x,xxx nato arms caches in ru and eastern eu
asciilifeform: etc.
asciilifeform: could go on, but i'm not a novelist, just trying to make a point
mircea_popescu: seems arbitrary.
asciilifeform: basic idea is, a mortal wound
asciilifeform: rather than just disfiguring
asciilifeform: to usg.
mircea_popescu: suppose you're 13, and suppose you're hot for mary sue, and suppose i am invisible, and suppose i steal her diary.
asciilifeform: aha?
mircea_popescu: is your argument going to be that "unless it shows her naked fucking a satellite it's not truely a diary" ?
mircea_popescu: 13yo girls don't normally take that sorta footage.
asciilifeform: but usg does
mircea_popescu: notrly.
asciilifeform: has private keys just like you and i
mircea_popescu: you think it does, because to your starstruck eyes this 13 yo girl is like ... madonna.
mircea_popescu: only better.
mircea_popescu: except... she's a dumb 13 yo with barel yany tits, that nobody but you would even notice.
decimation: note that usg only gains superpowers when she's trying to conduct a worldwide coordinated deception
asciilifeform: to run with the analogy, she's the 'fat kid with rich father'
asciilifeform: from mircea_popescu's earlier article
asciilifeform: usg is running on two centuries of plunder and exuberant technowankery, from which, granted, only fumes remain in the tank
mircea_popescu: eh... here's the caper : if she were, for a weird reason, the fucking queen of terrania
asciilifeform: kid may be so far he's spherical, but father was very, very rich.
mircea_popescu: it'd be because everyone's so saying, not for any other reason.
asciilifeform: *so fat
mircea_popescu: if they change their mind... you're left holding up a very scared 13 yo.
mircea_popescu: one that THINKS it used to do things to "make" everyone bla bla.
mircea_popescu: and then splat she goes
mircea_popescu: on the asphalt.
asciilifeform: might check under the bed and see if the red button's still connected to something, before splat ?
mircea_popescu jew waves
decimation: meanwhile actual usg can't even coordinate its own aircraft in its own airspace http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/tech/2015/02/25/cherry-point-assumes-air-traffic-control-responsibilities/23948767/
assbot: FAA hands local air traffic control to MCAS Cherry Point ... ( http://bit.ly/1wwkPXw )
asciilifeform: when the last usg fighter runs headlong into the last usg bomber, and the fireball takes out their last aerial tanker, we can say 'can't'
asciilifeform: http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/media/cinematic/video/24106461 << unrelated to above but relevant to BingoBoingo's article
assbot: Cops: MO candidate dies of self-inflicted gunshot wound ... ( http://bit.ly/1wwl3hs )
asciilifeform: ^ with alleged audio
decimation: maybe he was in the cherry business too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30642 @ 0.00039134 = 11.9914 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: or why stick to boring old kinetic killing machines;
asciilifeform: let's learn whether - and how - noblis corp. molested the britneychain.
asciilifeform: or say a shipment of petahash's worth of usg-commissioned miners sailing from taiwan ends up in hands of 'isis' because of a leaked key
asciilifeform: then - yes, leaks like sieve
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu remarked, iirc, that i'm living in berlin circa '44, but it looks rather more like '38 here.
asciilifeform: where's the stalingrad, damnit.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67651 @ 0.00039532 = 26.7438 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://libverse.ru/korzhavin/trybachi.html << relevant to thread
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1wwo80R )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: say later if were able to digest it. otherwise i might have to attempt a transl.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00039532 = 6.167 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11487 @ 0.00040318 = 4.6313 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 101642 @ 0.00040318 = 40.98 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73550 @ 0.00040318 = 29.6539 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00039409 = 11.5074 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 210200 @ 0.00040058 = 84.2019 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.0003913 = 10.839 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 135350 @ 0.00040318 = 54.5704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65050 @ 0.00039469 = 25.6746 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i get a general idea
mircea_popescu: guy wants a magic trumpet to make enemies stand out from friends.
asciilifeform: xlating now
asciilifeform: tough cookie, this one
mircea_popescu: well im off, tomorro.
asciilifeform: seeya
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/4a63527f5a90fd698739f30285fe0ba0/tumblr_mmoapj3TvS1rnhnkmo1_1280.jpg i leave you with the gift of dulap.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1wvpYJH )
asciilifeform: sssschhhlink!
asciilifeform: l0l
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00040318 = 2.2175 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2971 @ 0.00040318 = 1.1978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50508 @ 0.00040353 = 20.3815 BTC [+]
cazalla: well, this is an interesting article inc
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/02/ceo-of-bitcoin-exchange-killed-in-thailand/
assbot: CEO Of Bitcoin Exchange Killed In Thailand | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1E4RNAD )
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/02/ceo-of-bitcoin-exchange-killed-in-thailand/
fluffypony: cazalla: <blockquote> tags
cazalla: refresh, fixed it, reverted to an earlier draft for some reason
fluffypony: kk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60350 @ 0.00040381 = 24.3699 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: you don't see them now do you fluffypony ?
fluffypony: no all fixed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94184 @ 0.00039525 = 37.2262 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=1UGC9WT4 << translation
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1E4So56 )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: eh, what the hell, it's ~1kb
asciilifeform: 'The Buglers' (Noam Korzhavin, 1955.)
asciilifeform: (original http://libverse.ru/korzhavin/trybachi.html.
assbot: Страница не найдена ... ( http://bit.ly/1E4Sr0S )
asciilifeform: English translation brought to you by #bitcoin-assets.)
asciilifeform: Since childhood I've dreamed that a bugler would blow,
asciilifeform: We'll wake and hear hoofbeats a-thundering go,
asciilifeform: You'll learn who is who, and the truth cannot hide:
asciilifeform: Your foes straight ahead, and your friends - at your side.
asciilifeform: And then aeroplanes pierced the night with a roar,
asciilifeform: And buglers were blowing their bugles once more,
asciilifeform: Tachankas [1] and cannon did roll through the mud,
asciilifeform: And heroes awakened, and out poured their blood,
asciilifeform: With thunderous valor, all those years did shine
asciilifeform: Yet still I would wait for some obvious sign.
asciilifeform: I thought I saw all - but blind have I been,
asciilifeform: As betwixt our friends did our foes scurry in.
asciilifeform: And many a foe was within our own ranks,
asciilifeform: And sometimes - they carried the flags at our flanks.
asciilifeform: Life hits me hard, knocks me out of the ring.
asciilifeform: But still I shall wait for my bugle to sing.
asciilifeform: Though truth does not fade, and my conscience won't go
asciilifeform: But days turn to years, yet that bugler won't blow.
asciilifeform: And as old age draws near, will I remain strong,
asciilifeform: And dream till I die, of the bugler's bright song?
asciilifeform: But what if to blow it ourselves is our lot?
asciilifeform: Since we, only we, are the buglers we've got.
asciilifeform: [1] Who doesn't know, can look it up.
asciilifeform: Approximately - chariot, but with Maxim gun.
asciilifeform: damn, now i forget why i did this.
asciilifeform to bed
punkman: maybe we need poetry.b-a.link ;)
punkman: interesting http://wiki.osdev.org/Ada_Bare_bones
assbot: Ada Bare bones - OSDev Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1E4SHgu )
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61000 @ 0.00039469 = 24.0761 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114400 @ 0.00039469 = 45.1525 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 129150 @ 0.00039385 = 50.8657 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23636 @ 0.00040098 = 9.4776 BTC [+]
jurov: <asciilifeform> where's the stalingrad, damnit. << since usg is in hybrid warfare mostly with itself... no stalingrad possibly recognizable in that mess
jurov: or maybe it was 9/11 already?
kakobrekla: that alfs translation somehow lead me to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kiml-N0ExU , seems full version.
assbot: Огненные версты / The Fiery Miles - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1AEoyBW )
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00040267 = 6.6642 BTC [-]
punkman: http://ctext.org/mozi
assbot: Mozi - Chinese Text Project ... ( http://bit.ly/1aAtrCr )
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78700 @ 0.00038799 = 30.5348 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00038413 = 8.1436 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90751 @ 0.00038286 = 34.7449 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58100 @ 0.00040267 = 23.3951 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88880 @ 0.00040267 = 35.7893 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33150 @ 0.00040497 = 13.4248 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54200 @ 0.0004085 = 22.1407 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13520 @ 0.0004047 = 5.4715 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: height=236104 vs height=194761
danielpbarron: sata: height=236104 usb3: height=233770
danielpbarron: usb3 might be slower than 5400 rpm
fluffypony: welp, CEO of Bitcoin killed again: http://i.imgur.com/bIUctbS.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1zq9EdD )
danielpbarron slaps fluffypony around a bit with a large Qntra
fluffypony: no I read the article on Qntra, this is the media getting it wrong again
danielpbarron: oh lol "CEO of Bitcoin"
adlai slaps danielpbarron around a bit with a ra qnt
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10191 @ 0.00039064 = 3.981 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124859 @ 0.00038932 = 48.6101 BTC [-] {2}
chetty: media and wrong should be synonyms
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23291 @ 0.000388 = 9.0369 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96400 @ 0.00038466 = 37.0812 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 193392 @ 0.00038709 = 74.8601 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 240008 @ 0.00040724 = 97.7409 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00038566 = 6.402 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59500 @ 0.00041098 = 24.4533 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: i like how asciilifeform makes notes to point out that hey, you could be looking this up :D
mircea_popescu: (btw, you should prolly put that up on yoru blog. pastes are temporary)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform too late. http://trilema.com/2015/hai-c-am-furat-un-negativ/
assbot: Hai c-am furat un negativ pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JZL3HI )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00039456 = 10.2191 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72300 @ 0.00039953 = 28.886 BTC [+]
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/hai-c-am-furat-un-negativ/
BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/02/anti-integrity-advocates-push-netflix-to-break-contracts/
mircea_popescu: cazalla a) killed is a little misleading, traditionally "died" is the word for accidental death ; b) isn't this teppy of dragon tale / tale in the desert fame ?
BingoBoingo: b) that just might be
BingoBoingo: a) For violent accidents that lead to death killed is used frequently
BingoBoingo: ;;google killed in one car accident
gribble: '60 Minutes' correspondent Bob Simon dies in car accident - CNN.com: <http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/11/us/bob-simon-dies/>; Woman killed after 3 vehicle accident on the Mass Pike | WWLP.com: <http://wwlp.com/2015/02/26/one-car-crash-on-mass-pike-in-westfield-injuries-reported/>; Bruce Jenner in Horrible Car Crash -- 1 Person Dead | TMZ.com: <http://www.tmz.com/2015/02/07/bruce- (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: dies or died probably the better word though
chetty: yep, Andrew Tepper, A Tale in the Desert and Dragon Tales
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70404 @ 0.00039914 = 28.1011 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: "i dont think its a good idea to go poking around the profiles of the dead on reddit."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33154 @ 0.00039914 = 13.2331 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69296 @ 0.00039953 = 27.6858 BTC [+]
chetty: oh hey no different Tepper, Adam not Andrew :P
thestringpuller: http://ninasays.so/howdoyoudoit/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10804 @ 0.00039953 = 4.3165 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74296 @ 0.00039543 = 29.3789 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46300 @ 0.00038466 = 17.8098 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 251.72, Best ask: 252.09, Bid-ask spread: 0.37000, Last trade: 252.17, 24 hour volume: 6891.50924384, 24 hour low: 245.2, 24 hour high: 256.15, 24 hour vwap: 252.06286089
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37818 @ 0.00038745 = 14.6526 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47150 @ 0.00038745 = 18.2683 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00039043 = 9.9169 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102700 @ 0.00040151 = 41.2351 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: <BingoBoingo> a) For violent accidents that lead to death killed is used frequently <<< that was my thinking, was not an intentional click bait title as some alleged
BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/02/police-chief-arrested-for-soliciting-prostitution/
cazalla: maybe it's an aussie thing to use killed for violent deaths, i am not the only one.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-28/bitcoin-ceo-adam-tepper-killed-in-thailand/6271440 http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-killed-in-thailand-identified-as-independent-reserve-ceo-20150228-13rmqe.html
assbot: Adam Tepper, Bitcoin trader and CEO of Independent Reserve, killed in motorcycle accident in Phuket - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1vKTrV9 )
assbot: Australian killed in Thailand identified as Independent Reserve CEO ... ( http://bit.ly/1vKTqjT )
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo turns out that one's andrew not adam, my bad
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/02/police-chief-arrested-for-soliciting-prostitution/ << bwahaha
assbot: Police Chief Arrested for Soliciting Prostitution | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1vKTZdp )
mod6: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00038286 / 0.0003987 / 0.00041666 (5126534 shares, 2,044.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00035757 / 0.00040127 / 0.00048515 (19982463 shares, 8,018.43 BTC), 30D: 0.0003293 / 0.00039709 / 0.00048515 (95164556 shares, 37,789.00 BTC)
mod6: well, I'm back. :]
mod6 catches up on logs.
mircea_popescu: wb!
ben_vulpes: how was vaycay?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00040436 = 16.134 BTC [+]
mod6: thanks, good!
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [04:32] what does ben_vulpes do with his apple boxen? just throws them out when disk fills ? << generally, backup disk, format, give to pets and or repurpose as misc. computing devices around the house/office.
ben_vulpes: it's an abysmal cycle.
mod6: haven't had any time off in like... 8 years.
mod6: i don't think i've ever been 3 days behind on logs. lol.
mod6 keeps reading
thestringpuller: mod6: doesn't like #b-a people
mircea_popescu: mod6 past week or so hasnt been all that terrible.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00039498 = 16.1152 BTC [-]
mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, not too bad. lot of trades tho!
mod6: thestringpuller: what?
mod6: lol, always tryin to troll me.
thestringpuller: it's cause you changed my life with da jeezy
thestringpuller: trap or die!
mod6: :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00039498 = 11.3754 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7660 @ 0.00039334 = 3.013 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 239491 @ 0.00039543 = 94.7019 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30671 @ 0.0003914 = 12.0046 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/trubach.txt << permalink for my barbaric translation from last night
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1N3EUcr )
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu has a prettified one on his site
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2015-info/nsa-cia-scs-implant-cafe.jpg << mega-l0l!
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Aoy8E9 )
asciilifeform: ^ a snowdenism featured a cellar where nsa likes to open mail, plant bugs in routers, etc. there was an outside shot. someone appears to have found it on 'google earth' and is now marked
asciilifeform: will soon have reviews! likely
asciilifeform: 'best bug, great service'
chetty: someone should start returning the favor
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BD,_%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%83%D0%BC_%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87 << he's alive!
assbot: Коржавин, Наум Моисеевич — Википедия ... ( http://bit.ly/1BrcF33 )
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asciilifeform: ^ funnily enough, after being let go from gulag, he earned his living for many years as a translator.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://poetrylibrary.ru/stixiya/korzhavin-1.html#osvobodite-zhenschinu-ot << almost like he wrote this one just for you
decimation: http://cryptome.org/2015/02/roark-103.pdf < BingoBoingo this might make an interesting story
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1zOxGjx )
decimation: you have a PACER account don't you?
BingoBoingo: decimation: I'll give it another read. Maybe you could give a writeup a try since you seem to have a hook for it.
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ben_vulpes: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/26/nyregion/3-men-in-brooklyn-charged-supporting-isis.html?_r=0
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1zOy5SX )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: we did this one here
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-02-2015#1035148 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 01:24:58; asciilifeform: usg found two clinically certifiable imbeciles and now they have 'terrorists' in the dock
asciilifeform: (see rest of thread)
chetty: must remind us how much we need dhs
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asciilifeform: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5467/14059875162_dda7c1c05f.jpg << unrelated
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1zOyk0i )
asciilifeform: incidentally, uzbek translator for usg must be a killer gig
asciilifeform: doubtful that there's more than a handful of them
asciilifeform: probably 'name own price'
asciilifeform: esp. if you consider that they have to be 'cleared', (nominally) loyaltied, etc
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: harumph
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the interesting thing is that so far they use that and only that kind of 'feedstock'
asciilifeform: (borderline retards, no money, no alibi, no lawyer, plenty of 'damning six words written by honest man')
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asciilifeform: though folks who differ from above portrait solely in the have-money part (e.g. shrem) are also a favourite prey animal ☟︎
asciilifeform: the only thing better than a generic imbecile is one with a titanic bag of benjies under his car seat
asciilifeform: (local police chief's 'porsche' won't buy itself!)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'porsche' << civil forfeiture, not terrism.
asciilifeform: two tastes that go great together (TM)
asciilifeform: esp. once the maggots are done with the rotting flesh (above tale and similar) and start on the living meat
asciilifeform: i.e. the folks with houses, jobs, savings (miracle!), bitcoin
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asciilifeform: right now is 'easy going' because the polizei are only expected to deliver up carcasses for the show trials, rather than revenue
asciilifeform: when it's a+b - then the 'fun' starts
ben_vulpes: why bother? just print more.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: may as well ask, why tax
ben_vulpes: politically useful. see the routine audits of whoever's not in power.
asciilifeform: answer is that the machine doesn't work if run on 100% bzollar
asciilifeform: gotta have some actual petrol in that water
asciilifeform: for engine to run.
ben_vulpes: confiscation isn't likely to compare with taxes pulled in from payrol..
ben_vulpes: payroll*.
asciilifeform: depends on what is confiscated, and from whom
asciilifeform: not simply a matter of balance sheet, either.
ben_vulpes: what, then?
asciilifeform: some politically important ethnic minority, for instance, might enjoy living in ben_vulpes's house ☟︎
ben_vulpes: there are no ethnic minorities around here, and won't be for another decade easily.
asciilifeform: just example.
ben_vulpes: sure.
ben_vulpes: even then, there's miles of pressed shitboard that can yet be erected.
asciilifeform: can be erected by whom ?
asciilifeform: paid in what ?
ben_vulpes: why go through the trouble of confiscating, when again, funds for disbursement to the 'blessed poor' can be routed to the homebuilders?
ben_vulpes: 'opportunity grants'
ben_vulpes: tax credits for sales to favorite sons.
asciilifeform: basic hypothesis here: the machine is still burning fat, rather than own muscle, while what is being stolen is the surplus
asciilifeform: when it is the principal - the physical shortages begin
asciilifeform: and things turn openly soviet
ben_vulpes: is orlov's account of the soviet collapse halfway accurate?
ben_vulpes: 'reinventing collapse'?
asciilifeform: 100% accurate, allowing for survivor bias
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asciilifeform: (the folks who got the worst of it, are not here and are certainly not writing books in engl.)
asciilifeform: he devotes a few pages to them.
ben_vulpes: i'm interested in the survivor's tale. taking notes on how to get the least fucked. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: then read mr o's 'post-soviet lessons' at the very least
asciilifeform: it's on www.
asciilifeform: if you like dead tree, it's 'reinventing collapse', 'hold your applause', and 'the five stages of collapse' in that order.
ben_vulpes: i shall
asciilifeform: (personal recommendation. his later stuff, i'm not a fan of, anarchoprimitivism is not my cup of poison)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2013#429514 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2013 19:11:43; asciilifeform: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060105_soviet_lessons.shtml
asciilifeform: ^ parts 2 and 3 in same thread below there.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: basic observation (by no means mine! or even solely orlov's) is that collapse comes 'in fits.' for example, at the moment it did not occur to you to think that obtaining drywall or labourers to knock together a 'shitboard' house, could ever be problematic
asciilifeform: just as you might think, while driving car, that you might run out of fuel, but not out of air
asciilifeform: there is actually a small drywall (sheets) factory not far from where i live
asciilifeform: dingiest, most run-down industrial landscape one could hope to meet
asciilifeform: first few times i walked past it, was convinced that it was abandoned
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can read russian poetry a lot better once someone's conveniently done 99% of the work, found the equivalents, set out the rhyming scheme etc
asciilifeform: but then, one time after sundown, saw the lights
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll do that one next, quite possibly
asciilifeform: when shiva hand or two frees up for a spell
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> probably 'name own price' << yeah, right. usg would rather have google translated material by some crafty armenian at "pay grade" than pay what competent guy asks.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: and the factory churns on, because the trucks carrying gypsum come on schedule, the roughnecks show up, etc
asciilifeform: but what if one of the ingredients went missing. or hiccuped.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1036312 << "we only pick fighters we know we can put the fear of god in". ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 23:24:13; asciilifeform: though folks who differ from above portrait solely in the have-money part (e.g. shrem) are also a favourite prey animal
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: translators... armenian << actually usg translator racket is - traditionally - ultra-lucrative. complete with own boom'n'bust cycles
mircea_popescu: you ever seen that film ?
asciilifeform: which
mircea_popescu: miller's crossing.
mircea_popescu: must see.
asciilifeform adds to list
mircea_popescu: put it at the top, tis great.
asciilifeform: was that the one where 'i'm not selling a license to shoot bookies today'
mircea_popescu: you ain't bought a license to kill bookies, and today i ain't sellin' any. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ^
mircea_popescu: so take yer flunkie an' dangle.
asciilifeform: aha!
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1036333 << so soviet. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 23:34:24; asciilifeform: some politically important ethnic minority, for instance, might enjoy living in ben_vulpes's house
asciilifeform: why not 'so french' or - hell - 'so roman'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1036352 << keep a harem, of women that have no children, no pity and can shoot. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 23:38:48; ben_vulpes: i'm interested in the survivor's tale. taking notes on how to get the least fucked.
asciilifeform: ^ works best on atomic dirigible
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because your folk's special alf :D
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mircea_popescu: btw i sent the archive.today guy a note, if he shows up him
asciilifeform: what was this
mircea_popescu: !s existential
assbot: 15 results for 'existential' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=existential
mircea_popescu: first hit
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: found.
asciilifeform: 'So far there has been only one issue with the text content: publishing of drug production recipes is illegal in Russia, so we received a request from the government agency to hide them from visitors from Russia (otherwise they would block the whole site). Visitors from other countries can see those pages.'
asciilifeform: ^ lol
asciilifeform: this is actually a thing
asciilifeform: occasionally