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sturles: Or are you comparing apples to oranges again? Trades != order book changes.
sturles: MtGox process more than 10 trades a second even during high load. The number of order book changes is _a lot_ higher.
sturles: How many simultaneous orders do you think MtGox gets? My home network isn't able to handle their socketio feed of order book changes when the lag approaches 300s.
sturles: Yes, and when the book overlaps?
mircea_popescu: add them to the book, for instance.
sturles: MtGox does no simultaneous orders for the same currency (BTC), because there is one order book. Like a stock exchange trading only one stock.
mircea_popescu: when mpoe bot refreshes its book
mod6: but it followed the book pretty close. Anyway, its interesting how the classes were so seperated. Like the character Konstantin Levin has all of these pesants that he litereally owns, as slaves.
mod6: So I read this book Anna Karenina a few years back and I recently saw the movie with Jude Law and whomever.. the new one.
pgp: not a lot of depth to that book, eh?
taub: book getting spammed with 0.01 orders
mircea_popescu: the bot puts them in the book with an expiration time
ThickAsThieves: it shows zeroes only when i load a book i already loaded before
taub: hits option book was like if you buy both directions you can make profit no matter what direction the price goes
mircea_popescu: a stolen image of a law book
mircea_popescu: microhxo you know how to use gribble's order book ?
taub: http://lolosad.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/book-buy-sell-sell-sm.jpg
jurov: interaacting with bf order book
pgp: wait a sec - doesn't the protocol permit the ability to book transactions in the future?
MJR_3: at least they put a level 2 data book together in the right order
ChaangNoi: d3 i bought a mac book air
jurov: but whole order book is 13btc bids, 18btc asks... not worth bugging deadterra about
mircea_popescu: thestrin1puller they are lol. i hold most of mpoe and held most of the bond book >.<
mircea_popescu: i tell you, running the options book is the worst fucking racket there is. when you get no trade you're depressed, when you do get trade you're worried.
bugpowderr: when funds clear it will automatically hit the book
bugpowderr: They will appear on the book if you add additional funds
bugpowderr: you can place additional orders, but they will be listed as 'insufficient funds' and will not show on the book.
bugpowderr: pgp all orders that display in the book are fully funded
pgp: so, concievable much of the order book dept could be totally bogus
MJR_III: but, you can also go to bitfinex's own book
mircea_popescu: ya but i mean someone could just put 5 btc at 1mn usd in the book
jurov: deadweasel: coinbr doesn't offer own options. what you see on New order should be the saem order book as on mpex
Chaang-Noi: order book on gox with bids showing is like 8 million fiat
taub: prolly should read that book on options
kakobrekla: and they put 100 in the book first, then execute the asks
MJR_: just the depth of the book
ThickAsThieves: when mpex call options book is empty, then what?
tiberiusiv: mircea: how deep is bitcoin-central order book
jurov: interesting, bitcoin-central does accept unfunded asks too, but shows them in book with zero amount
Bugpowder: But the book isn't very big
Bugpowder: and that the whole book is kept in RAM
Bugpowder: right, but what we REALLY want to know is the shadow pool of funds not on the book.
MJR_III: well that theory was busted for me...i guess their book is pretty accurate, as far as they actually have funds behind orders
MJR_III: what about both sides of book Bugpowder?
MJR_III: i think bugpowder said that they only show the closest to top of book?
mircea_popescu: so basically you can put it in, but it won't list it in the book ?
smickles: they show in the book and only disappear when they get touched by an ask
mjr_: yep just a bunch of resting orders on a book at a certain price
mircea_popescu: instead of thinking he's suffering from every entry in the nosology book, like normal interns
mjr_: not sure if they show it, but the end result is that there will be changes in the book that may not be expected
mjr_: not sure where the complete book is
smickles: THE order book json?
Bugpowder: what is the order book json?
Bugpowder: book
mjr_: do they put the orders closest to top of the book or furthest
Bugpowder: The bids you don't have funds for are not listed on the order book, starting from the lowest price down.
mjr_: i can make the order book look really really thick
ThickAsThieves: https://bitcoin-central.net/order_book
smickles: i even put it in the -otc order book
smickles: my bot used the mtgox order book to a given depth to determin spot
tiberiusiv: thickasthieves go read a book.
mod6: they just trump up some charges, and tell you well you can do 90 days for this, or you can go to trial and we'll trhow the book at you...
mircea_popescu: you gotta specifically buy from the ipo book
mircea_popescu: they run a strange dual book thing.
mircea_popescu: then you imagine stuff here is book price, which it isn't.
smickles: maybe you'll see hoffman's 'steal this book' above it in the window
mircea_popescu: topace i would say this is kludge. keep a single book rather than fragment it.
mircea_popescu: if they're not in the book then there's not any elft and so... market price
mircea_popescu: unbalanced i don't get it tho. if there's ipo shares left they're in the book at ipo price. you can't buy past them.
mircea_popescu: unbalanced where are these shares left ? not in the book ?
mircea_popescu: why is he carrying a book ?
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 because it needs to protect the book.
mircea_popescu: if you look at the book all puts under 50 or so sell for 0.05351801
jborkl: Succesful windows buy smickles- adding to the order book and cancel works alsl
pigeons: also flat out lied about the valuations. something sells for X and he says "book value" is X * 10 because mining is looking good
mircea_popescu: pigeons did you share that book with an interested party ?
Chaang-Noi: ill get an asus unltra book with an i7 and the awesome screen
error4733: MP:not big diff b/t fickle et fucked. look at the book... just no way to sell if you want your money back.. :fu:
pgp: that is exactly what they are doing... they are showing the gox book $.55 worse... lol...
pgp: when the connection to gox dies - so does their "prime" order book
pgp: i wonder, do you think that they are just running a gox shadow book?
pgp: oops book gone again
pgp: book finally uncrossed... more lag than gox?
pgp: yikes... crossed order book is back!
pgp: cleaned out their book , I see... My, my, what DEEP pool of liquidity they have...
Diablo-D3: (oddly enough, I finally ordered a book from them for the first time, and I've done thousands of dollars of business with them over the past however many years)
benkay: gox sold their us order book to a new york company, diablo-d3
mircea_popescu: (and for the record, unlike mpex where the book is actually kept, you have no idea if asicminer sold 400k or 600k or 1.2mn shares in total)
knotwork: The "Chris has seven years of hands-on experience as co-owner and executive of an industry-leading global ecommerce business" might be it, e-commerce as in e-book sales
ThickAsThieves: comic book artists is another idea
mircea_popescu: anyway, when i'm old and i retire i'll write a book about the strange edge cases at the end of regulation in free mkt.
mircea_popescu: the jsons are not sorted, could that give the impression the book is different ?
jurov: S.DICE has much different order book data than on asset page
mircea_popescu: at the present time it only works if your order hits the book
pgp: for starters, most all exchanges today pay you to add liquidity to their book - the so called "maker-taker" fee model.
kakobrekla: The book of Kako
kakobrekla: book aint problematic
smickles: a good copy of that book is worth upwards of 100 usd now iirc
smickles: people are great, gov't is liek: it's illegal to distribute that code!! peeps are like: let's print it in a book and send it everywhere!!!!
FabianB: Josh_Rossi: yeah stephensons cryptonomicon is a fantastic book