log☇︎
800+ entries in 0.037s
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 06:04:50 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-18#1937297 << also the up/down links for references nor toosoon ?
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937350 << kk. I'll do the log feeding later tonight once forums quiet down.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-18#1937297 << also the up/down links for references nor toosoon ?
asciilifeform: meanwhile, phf's site appears to have fallen down. i.e. only access to era1 l0gz is nao by hand.
diana_coman: trinque: deedbot fell down ~5 hours ago.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-16#1936654 << afaik it was the ameritards who even invented 'rent to own' scam to start with. i.e. where you 'buy' and get all the ~unwanted~ aspects of ownership (gotta do 100% of maintenance; if it wears down, replace at own expense -- there are people paying for 3 cars who have to walk, all over usa) but 0 of the desirable (i.e. ~actually~ owning, ability to sell)
mircea_popescu: what the fuck sorta rattle gotta be going on in some dude's brain to ACTUALLY BELIEVE what the fucking bankers are telling them, when engaged in a negotiation for the very thing the bankers make their money from. what, you thought all the advertising exists as a private gift from aliens ?! it's there BECAUSE these idiots rely on breaking down social communication to insert their shit in the gaps, wtf.
mircea_popescu: the hierarchy of consume-more-than-produce young females is very strictly 1. girls who found themselves a sponsor, who fucks them and pays their rent ABOVE 2. morons living in state-run orphanage. the SAME EXACT thing applies to boys too, just because you pay your own rent doesn't change the disposition in the field, doesn't make up down and down up.
mircea_popescu: then of course there's the hallucinatoria of the coy reflex, girl who's never taken a stroll nude down the busy street imagines it's gonna be the end of the world!!! much like the guy taking a stumble imagines everyone's watchin' an' judging, AS FUCKING IF they could unglue their eyes off the i[nca[pods long enough to notice their own fucking shoes are on fire.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936373 << Girls apparently have things to do over the three day span. Either that or stripping the boys down is how they imagine they avoid getting #wetoo'd
mircea_popescu: with the mental energy thus freed, they'd prolly burn the shit down.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 17:58:07 BingoBoingo: In local news: Uruguayos stripped down and humiliated in the Plaza Independencia https://i.redd.it/dsjaoraybmm31.jpg
trinque: I've got terbytes free down in uy tho
trinque: incidentally slurpin down that whole bbgentoo.ilb.ru
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 05:10:06 mircea_popescu: also, comparison with iliterate peasant / highwaty robber's bound to break down at SOME fucking point.
BingoBoingo: In local news: Uruguayos stripped down and humiliated in the Plaza Independencia https://i.redd.it/dsjaoraybmm31.jpg
mircea_popescu: also, comparison with iliterate peasant / highwaty robber's bound to break down at SOME fucking point.
mircea_popescu: then logger went down, forcing action ; then dood resurfaced, hung himself.
mircea_popescu: this shocking bit of imbecility unites across all times and all geography idiotic old women from george fox to cioran's hag with dirty feet.
mircea_popescu: much like the man on pcp running up and down the sidewalk punching out imaginary flying trees is way too busy to kill himself properly speaking.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/59-particulars-laid-down-for-the-regulating-of-things-a-selection/ << Trilema -- 59 Particulars laid down for the Regulating of things. A selection.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: eh; still stuck on "logger down was the problem", right?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: so what in there is "logger down"??
diana_coman: just for a few, I really don't see how you persist in the idea that it was "logger down" the problem.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if expectation is that logging is a 24/7/365 system -- then yes ought to be obv. that it aint a job for 1 set of hands. rather than 'let's put it in 1 hands for years and then say 'saboteur' when he falls down' .
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935472 << nah, it came down to what the WoT is all about ("how well are you able to answer questions about X person if asked?"). Nobody could answer as to where he was when needed. Hence MP's whole "nickel's worth of clues" article (the title was apt).
BingoBoingo: All of the pretense to the contrary is exactly that, pretense. I met n>1 fellows down here trying to "bring California quality" to Uruguay. They all pay the bills with jobs tied to the local economy. Their revenues, as best as I can tell, are in the same league as roadside vegetable stands in the middle of nowhere that use an "honor box" as their payment processor. There is probably more money to be had in wool than weed.
spyked: achtung: I'm doing some maintenance/cleanup work on feedbot as a prelude to upcoming vpatch(es). the bot might go down a coupla times in the meanwhile, but shouldn't lose any feeds
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934609 << ftr I am seriously considering bidding on this, but first I want to be clear on if I am understanding correctly all portions of the ask. I'll bake a post tonight breaking this down / asking smart questions for clarity
asciilifeform: what i wish i could do, is to catch moor and hang him upside down and connect to 220v, and get him to confess how he got vlsi fabbed w/out the 'mandatory' winblows mask liquishit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: half of this is fair cut. moor does in fact sell chip ( and incidentally comes, unlike ~errything else on market, with full datashit ). but afaik the full src of the cad system was not published, to date. ( it's how he eats. ) so comes down to matter of heuristic, 'does exist, or is charlatan ?' based on d00d's work to date, and the published material re 'greenarray' product on sale, i'm inclined to say 'exists, worx
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 11:55:06 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934490 << also relevantly, if ben is down w/out being rebootable, mod6 needs a new co-chair in tbf
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934490 << also relevantly, if ben is down w/out being rebootable, mod6 needs a new co-chair in tbf
asciilifeform: achtung, panzers! about to upgrade 'reader', expect ~10s of down time.
mircea_popescu: so, needless to say, ~0 chances of running into the tools "floating down the river" so to speak
Mocky: I fell down a rabbit hole
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933398 <-- lol, I thought it had went down again when I saw this, got me alarmed there for a moment.
trinque sits down to eat rest of log
BingoBoingo: lol, when the locals ask me for my opinion of their "pagina de web" my first recommendation is the that to get more recommendations they need to cut their page load time down from minutes to seconds.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i used it all the way to the last day when the university shut down their unix cluster and expelled all 'zombies' who were still connected. which -- ~decade after graduating -- still included asciilifeform
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-01 17:42:25 asciilifeform: bots presently are stuck 'manually' writing down own outputs .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-02 23:26:40 trinque: well, there's one kidney stone down, plenty more to go.
trinque: well, there's one kidney stone down, plenty more to go.
asciilifeform: bots presently are stuck 'manually' writing down own outputs .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-31 01:58:05 lobbes: mod6: take it from me, please, the best thing I ever did was start blogging/writing things down/*expressing* myself. Only through this kind of reflection (and by this I mean analyzing the reasoning you used in the past for action and analyzing your reasoning for future action), and through the critical eye of others can that fog even start to clear
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 15:41:21 mod6: the important thing for me is that i'm resolved to not just sit around and wait for things to happen to me, re: 9-5 tarpit. im starting down a path of emacipation from that. might take some time, but not too much time.
lobbes: mod6: take it from me, please, the best thing I ever did was start blogging/writing things down/*expressing* myself. Only through this kind of reflection (and by this I mean analyzing the reasoning you used in the past for action and analyzing your reasoning for future action), and through the critical eye of others can that fog even start to clear
mod6: the important thing for me is that i'm resolved to not just sit around and wait for things to happen to me, re: 9-5 tarpit. im starting down a path of emacipation from that. might take some time, but not too much time.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 13:10:29 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm working on organizing a break down of the situation. It's a very map-heavy exercise
diana_coman: re logger atm I am undecided as my options so far seem to be: 1. do another round of madness with flask until it works on this old (but stable at least) centos 2. replicate environment aka burn down centos and have fun installing remotely on the machine cuntoo 3. simply run irssi (as I'm otherwise running this code anyway as my client) with logging to db into an mp-wp database and be done with it (possibly each line a one comment - will end
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 20:54:34 asciilifeform: i recall lobbes was using some kinda system for sucking down py libs that worked through the deps chain, but can't recall what was
trinque: I've used this to great benefit to blap down an embedded firmware
asciilifeform: thinking about it, i'm not terribly surprised that centos 6 dun suck down a working set of shitlibs: loox like it was released in jul 2011 .
asciilifeform: i recall lobbes was using some kinda system for sucking down py libs that worked through the deps chain, but can't recall what was
asciilifeform: gentoo has , in any given instance, fuckknowswhat, BUT at least reliably pulls down the particular necessary strand of the spittoon, typically
asciilifeform: when i 1st sat down to write it, thought 'ada', then realized that simply to make the necessary glue would take a year, and that's if did nuffin else.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm working on organizing a break down of the situation. It's a very map-heavy exercise
mircea_popescu: n "find allies" and "break down the priviledge"... the intellectual socioeconomy of ustarded morons is quite well understood by now.)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:01:43 mp_en_viaje: 2) i never made money, i always made power. the money was coincidental. i never made all the money there was to make or could. nor did i ever give much of a shit, i'm utterly not constructive, a world of nothing but mp will burn down.
lobbes: I used to fly a lot too, tho, and regardless of the skin color the TSA monkeys were always unpleasant to deal with. I would always feel raped by the time I was done getting through the lines; complete with my pants falling down and holding my shoes while running for my flight.
BingoBoingo: Down here, no one hates me for the color of my skin. One of my last memories of the US was the TSA monkeys and the contempt that bled through everything the agent that handled me did.
mircea_popescu: business is all about identifying these things, writing the correct numbers down, and then comparing sums.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-26 14:28:11 shrysr_: thanks asciilifeform and BingoBoingo. also since 'pki' throws up stuff like 'napkin' - is there a way to narrow this down in the search?
asciilifeform: hey asciilifeform one time sat down into 1 of those chinese comp. chairs where there's no iron plate against the piston. but miraculously bounced off.
trinque: > and also ingesting the ashes throughout as he puffed it down
trinque: on that subj, going to sit down and write for a bit
trinque: the "it'll all be pedo traffic" is the other end of the "my precious children, can't let 'em bike down the street"
mircea_popescu: that they might have ink and paper to write their things down
snsabot: Logged on 2018-10-25 22:14:23 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gnat bugs : apparently ( and this is documented or mentioned nowhere ) : it is impossible to have a Ada.Finalization.Limited_Controlled type ANYWHERE inside a static library, unless it is generic all the way down (i.e. if the lib package is generic, any sub-packages must also be instantiated as generics )
asciilifeform: ( it's superficially appealing, but almost certain to get bogged down in particulars of usb2serial dongles, as well as the gnarly issue of actually identifying FG from other serial devices -- linux offers 0 hard guarantee of initialization order for serial gadgets )
BingoBoingo: re: fonix http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-20#1929903 I finally discovered that down here "sour cream" is "Queso Crema: Talercrem"
asciilifeform: hrm mebbe my globe is upside-down, but i can't easily picture how cable can run from riga to south a. direct..
asciilifeform: 'they're pretty much the only linguistic group very much in danger of mistaking industrial sounds for speech. Careful if you, for instance, use a can of compressed air to clean an old motherboard -- it's entirely possible the resulting vijiieli, indistinct as they may sound to your ear, nevertheless insult the Polish passerby's long dead relatives in the sauciest of manners.' << asciilifeform falls down.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. theoretically might even be faster if one were to sit it down in a sqlite rather than postgres. that is, if there were any actual need to make this thing faster, currently seems that there is not any such need )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-19#1929694 << this is worth expanding on. asciilifeform also gets very fast pings ( never moar than 200msec, to date ) and fast udp. what i suspect is, usg's snoop gear that sits as parasitic toad on south amer's pipe, specifically slows down tcp.
asciilifeform: i get (and on rather slow machine) load time for the 'heavy' example page comparable to the time it takes for the mouse button to go up an' down.
mp_en_viaje: the "samurai cuts down 500 enemies in one sitting" story describes people who did nothing else since age 11.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-18 09:05:23 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929434 << sword takes training to use this way, noob wrists get tired. i can't find now where i put the "two smgs, make sure you mow down everyone in your car then come out screaming and flailing armss down the tunnel with the rest of the muppets, let Inca sort you out"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 15:19:57 asciilifeform: anyffin to keep the 'feel like a trader'(tm) tards from waking up to fact that pressure washer + petrol easily mows down 1000+ , while e.g. kalash into crowd, lucky if 100.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929434 << sword takes training to use this way, noob wrists get tired. i can't find now where i put the "two smgs, make sure you mow down everyone in your car then come out screaming and flailing armss down the tunnel with the rest of the muppets, let Inca sort you out"
asciilifeform: anyffin to keep the 'feel like a trader'(tm) tards from waking up to fact that pressure washer + petrol easily mows down 1000+ , while e.g. kalash into crowd, lucky if 100.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929307 << that's a sound principle, but in practice it comes down to what he says : when stuck interfacing, use their interfacers. same logic powers "use fs to comm to apache" as powers "use znc between your proggy and freenode" etc.
trinque: asciilifeform: sure, but that seam runs all the way down to "what's freenode doing in there"
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929009 << tyvm, seems like the epic week of keks has slowed down substantially today. Unless rumors and inuendos the Pantsuits want to talk about concerning how Trump may or may not be trying to negotiate a Greenland purchase count.
asciilifeform: phf: the issue seems to be postgres , i.e. mine is set to utf8 , so anything that is to sit down in it gotta validly re-encode to utf8
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928982 << I personally dun have any issue with this, but that is just me. Any yeah, not like someone down the line can't make a vpatch for a pill
asciilifeform: it aint unstable in the 'falls down like win95' sense tho.
asciilifeform: the other side of this, is q of 'what is canonical log' . i.e. is it mp_en_viaje's terminal (runs for 3-4 hrs / d ? and where did not even notice index off, asciilifeform had to notice and ring alarm ) ? asciilifeform's term ? (runs 24/7, but down for maybe 10min / yr ) ? or dulap 's ?
asciilifeform: so far mine at least not fell down, but we have not yet seen this wonder, of bot that never once fell
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'm still waiting to hear from e.g. ben_vulpes re what he did when bot fell down, to sync the indices with phf's
asciilifeform: ( they 'broke eater' in the sense that lobbesbot's emission was not logged; bot did not fall down and lose other lines , note. )
snsabot: Logged on 2016-06-19 23:21:04 mircea_popescu: I myself used a Hole Hawg to drill many holes through studs, which it did as a blender chops cabbage. I also used it to cut a few six-inch-diameter holes through an old lath-and-plaster ceiling. I chucked in a new hole saw, went up to the second story, reached down between the newly installed floor joists, and began to cut through the first-floor ceiling below. Where my homeowner's drill had labored and whined
asciilifeform: read this 20y ago. and then 1 day found shop where ~actual~ industrial tooling sold. no flashing neons, in fact is unmarked hole in abandoned-looking warehouse, entirely disappears when the place is closed and the burglar grille is down. and open only 2d/wk. there -- can buy, sans plastic, actual e.g. pneumatic hammers etc.
mp_en_viaje: this is also true, as a broad trend. it is unfortunate but true that the inept king prefers crossbowmen over archers, because archers take lifetime to train and dedication from puberty to craft, whereas crossbow can be operated by... outsourced labour. it takes a certain sort of short-sightedness to not notice the implicit band-of-brothers vs your own nobles cutting down your own mercs
asciilifeform: and from certain pov (e.g. scrap dealer's, who only melts it down) all the rusty carcasses in junkyard are ~exactlysame. but from pov of the folx who go in when mp_en_viaje asks 'build a tank by mid august' -- not quite same.
asciilifeform will bbl, falling down.
asciilifeform: it is found down at the bottom , with the rest 'shit hanging off side of the rifle' perpetrated by asciilifeform
mp_en_viaje: just... there's the obvious cut that the server dpesn't specifically care whether ny client is up or down ; yet each client cares whether server exists or doesn't. well... so to the victor go the spoils then, let the curious ask.
asciilifeform: ( in re knobs, 1 optional toggle that asciilifeform wanted for many yrs -- but dun have yet -- is a 'reverse gear', i.e. display log 1st line on top of screen and down. but this, also, later. )
asciilifeform: wanted to nail down the basic knobs before any 'decorative'