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a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 22:49 mircea_popescu: phf so basically this is cropping down nicely after all. proper vpatch (fixing mod6 's bane, the empty dir thing) + proper vdiff (hash-based preprocessing of rename/move + proper use of @@...@@ + keccak hashing).

phf: hmm, there's a bit of complexity there as far as producing files/directories shuffle, which might take longer, but i'll start with paring things down. i haven't yet seen diff/patch sources closely! ☟︎

mircea_popescu: phf so basically this is cropping down nicely after all. proper vpatch (fixing mod6 's bane, the empty dir thing) + proper vdiff (hash-based preprocessing of rename/move + proper use of @@...@@ + keccak hashing). ☟︎☟︎

phf: (fwiw so far i've been using patches prelude to stuff metainformation there. one interesting property of patching an already pressed lisp system, is that you don't want a clean press. instead you want to find what state your system is, and then press it further down the chain. but because you don't want to restart the system likewise, you want some additional actions performed as you're moving down the press chain. so i've been using prelude as a place

mircea_popescu: if you put empty files in your project i will personally chase you down in the afterlife.

phf: take existing stuff, strip it down to just what we already have -ruN functionality. i think that the actual tools should be vdiff and vpatch, that is they do shasuming themselves and produce proper vpatches/apply proper vpatches, but without chain or signature validation.

a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 15:51 asciilifeform: phf: given example works with my vtron, oughta equally work with mod6's. and does the job (both from vtronic genealogy pov, and gnumake's -- the latter (see the makefile of my faux 'eucrypt') recurses updir ) the 1 down-side is aesthetics.

asciilifeform: imho the item i posted just nao, illustrates the cleaner method. but it has down-side in that one has to give up on 'i get to decide exactly what the unix dir structure will look like, notwithstanding the fact that gnumake was dropped as a baby and has nfi what file moving is'

asciilifeform: phf: given example works with my vtron, oughta equally work with mod6's. and does the job (both from vtronic genealogy pov, and gnumake's -- the latter (see the makefile of my faux 'eucrypt') recurses updir ) the 1 down-side is aesthetics. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 23:34 asciilifeform for 1st time in long time, sits down to mega-l0g, eats

a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 23:16 mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem of eg, india, where everyone aborts girls because they don't want to pay for their raising to the level where they can be married ~because the trade value of the she-cow is NOT ENOUGH~ is really the fundamental problem of humanity : yes the cost of living went up, but the price of a head of cattle, or a goat, OR A WOMAN as such didn't go up. it went down. it's much cheaper to buy an ox now, either in s

asciilifeform for 1st time in long time, sits down to mega-l0g, eats ☟︎

mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem of eg, india, where everyone aborts girls because they don't want to pay for their raising to the level where they can be married ~because the trade value of the she-cow is NOT ENOUGH~ is really the fundamental problem of humanity : yes the cost of living went up, but the price of a head of cattle, or a goat, OR A WOMAN as such didn't go up. it went down. it's much cheaper to buy an ox now, either in s ☟︎

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> as a kid what i did with my time was that i ran up three flights of stairs to drink (straight from the faucet, who the everloving fuck has the time or the patience for glasses!) a stomachfull of water, then run back down and keep fucking running. << Since arriving I have been primarily drinking faucet water and coffees with occasial forays into the local bottled water and juices.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lift discussion notwithstanding, ~best possible thing that can happen to a girl is to spend her 6 to 16 decade going up and down 12 flights of stairs 12+ times each day.

mircea_popescu: taller item on down right is a hospital actually. the rest, typical ro 4+1 double-sided apt buildings, 3 rooms and 4 rooms, for 2 parents + 2 kids.

mircea_popescu: as a kid what i did with my time was that i ran up three flights of stairs to drink (straight from the faucet, who the everloving fuck has the time or the patience for glasses!) a stomachfull of water, then run back down and keep fucking running.

mircea_popescu: affiliate. "Hi, this is Bill from Cleveland, and I blame liberals." Son of a bitch, why didn't I think of that. The system not only pays poor people, it employs lots and lots of almost poor people. I'm not saying this is a good thing, or a desirable thing, I am simply stating a fact. Some of these are direct government jobs (e.g. staff down at the SSI office) and some are pretend private sector jobs. If you're a psychiatrist ☟︎

mircea_popescu: how do you expect digestion works. computational machines ALL THE WAY DOWN

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well, that guy cut down some cherry tree...

ben_vulpes: while my two year old is scarfing down olives, prosciutto, spicy chilis, with nary a blink.

shinohai: Hey BingoBoingo you seen one of those red bird shirts like Quagmire wears down there?

asciilifeform: 'Kraft knew a lot more than I did about wines, and he often brought home cobwebby treasures to go with a meal. But, even though Kraft always had a filled glass before him when we sat down to eat, the wine was all for me. Kraft was an alcoholic. He could not take so much as a sip of wine without starting on a bender that could last a month. That much of what he told me about himself was true. He was a member of Alcoholics Anonymous, h

mircea_popescu: yes well. flamethrower effectual when enemy pinned down, such as in bunker, pillbox or clearing trenches.

a111: Logged on 2017-08-11 18:37 mircea_popescu: this is how it manages the inapproximable "whisks" of meaning that latin-style then has so much trouble noting down.

a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 14:58 asciilifeform: ( the sad thing re nfs co, is that it is in fact a kolhoz, quite like amazon's and the rest, but more ancient and built by actual men, vs 'millenial' scum, and so it actually ~works~, and delivers on the promise -- you don't own your hdd, BUT you never have to go down from a dead hdd; you own no ip; BUT no ddos; etc. it however IS STILL A KOLHOZ , with the complacency and inevitable day of doom that comes with this. )

mircea_popescu: down with teh patriarchy.

lobbes: I'll add the aggregate 'filesize' of the zips requested to their 'tab' and work out payment later on down the line. Probably will be the '1 satoshi per Mb' rate to be called once past a certain threshold

BingoBoingo: <mats> oh yeah, small island nation << Also azn, so they care about trivia. Latinos however only care about pretense of the trivia and stand down when ignored.

asciilifeform: unless yer kernel is monstrously fat ( and why would it be ) -- it'll sit down in the rom.

asciilifeform: or is mats asking whether anyone's reversed the thing down to transistor ? or wat

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If USG.blue were to off me, is there anyone who would want to take over or wind down the venture, or is this not the time to discuss continuity?

mircea_popescu: wouldja simmer down alfie!

BingoBoingo: Lol, the weather today muy bien, Felt around 27 at 2 pm then cooling ocean breeze and clouds. Sun went down and it warmed back up a bit.

mircea_popescu: the manson apocalypse goes as follows : 1. he makes a really happenin' record. 2. all the she-sluts of california swarm him. 3. all the black dudes who used to fuck these bunnies get really pissed off upon coming home and discovering the cumdumpster's ran off. 4. so pissed off they get, they riot and burn down some of the white man's shit.

BingoBoingo: ~41 hours after plane touched down

a111: Logged on 2017-08-23 17:51 asciilifeform picture kgb d00d putting down cut wire in tap box to take smoke break

kjj: well, technically, the UPS my router is plugged into shut down because it thinks it has a bad battery, but the end result is the same

mircea_popescu: well... i never heard of anyone turning down night at the movies because it'd be uncomfortable to live in the movie hall. but who even knows.

a111: Logged on 2017-12-08 01:15 asciilifeform: in other great-agains , https://archive.is/wbVbJ >> 'Google plans to increase to 10,000 the number of its staffers tasked with tracking down extremist content on YouTube. "We will continue the growth of our teams, with the goal of bringing the total number of people across Google working to address content that might violate our policies to over 10,000 in 2018," YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki told Britain's Daily Telegraph in an intervie

asciilifeform: in other great-agains , https://archive.is/wbVbJ >> 'Google plans to increase to 10,000 the number of its staffers tasked with tracking down extremist content on YouTube. "We will continue the growth of our teams, with the goal of bringing the total number of people across Google working to address content that might violate our policies to over 10,000 in 2018," YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki told Britain's Daily Telegraph in an intervie ☟︎

BingoBoingo: The coins are cool, but... they cover 10 pesos on down so that's a lot of metal

mircea_popescu: cat would rather burn down the house than live in washing machine ; and normal human being would rather crack the earth into a trillio nshards than live in the "united states" pantsuit has imagined. what's so hard about this ?

mircea_popescu: the ~equivalent move to pantsuit "We will take down mount rushmore"

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Not shutting down, right-sizing

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, btw, didja see the piece where trump is shutting down whatever "natural monument" in utah ?

mircea_popescu: i went from "just about ready to burn this shit down" to having a grand ole mellow time in the ten minutes it took to get two refills.

mircea_popescu: i expect his method (add the terminating ---s the thing expects even if spurious) works even if implementation may need work. tho i dun wanna go down this road.

mircea_popescu: ok ok simmar down

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo incidentally, i often get ear popping IN THE CAR, getting down from fortress mp to civilisation.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746825 << very fucking lulzy. "zulus are unlikely to be mowed down by machine gun, no matter rate of fire, because THEY ARE REAL MEN" ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 14:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so for my own curiosity : considering the choice to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655064 (i recall a more recent mention but search isn't yielding) has cost you over the past YEAR the equivalent of what appears like 118`337 here + whatever the non-delivery of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1591437 would have amounted to (iirc no amt was ever set down ?), are you putting this down to a case of bad managem

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so for my own curiosity : considering the choice to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655064 (i recall a more recent mention but search isn't yielding) has cost you over the past YEAR the equivalent of what appears like 118`337 here + whatever the non-delivery of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1591437 would have amounted to (iirc no amt was ever set down ?), are you putting this down to a case of bad managem ☝︎☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 15:19 mircea_popescu: in other items of republican interest : eulora is at a stage where we have to set down what we'll use for sensitive data encryption (such as for instance the privkey files). i don't particularily wish to use aes ; anyone wants to contribute to this emerging spec ?

phf: it takes about 12 seconds to walk the log for all the messages containing "http" and then narrow it down with a somewhat hairy regex that i found somewhere some time ago

scatha: asciilifeform: thanks, just checking :) hope all is well over there, saw qntra down and a strange chinese message on trilema

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-04#1746199 << because exactly as i say : he assigned universals ("the sun rises in the morning! BECAUSE STALIN!") to the socialist state ; and the very disasters caused by that socialist state to imaginary "everyone else everywhere else". guess what, it WASN'T the terrorists that came busting down the door. it was... the socialists he worked for. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: you see it everywhere, from the supreme court all the way down to obscure daycare http://www.27bslash6.com/flash.html (" He denied having the drive which means he knew he shouldn't have it here then it was found in his bag so I feel the punishment is suitable." ) sorta thing

mircea_popescu: "oh, we shot it down". well... considering 99% launches fail to touch target... "safe lie"

mircea_popescu: i can't read it any other way than "my racing toolkit consists of duct tape, cyanoacrylate, and just-add-water wheel assemblages to be bolted down on any 2x2 inch flat surface you might wish".

mircea_popescu: now guess why colleges burned down "spontaneously" post http://trilema.com/2017/when-did-america-end/#footnote_6_76183

a111: Logged on 2017-12-03 17:12 asciilifeform: which somehow (dun ask me) is intended to make folx swallow the crock of shit , rather than wanting to burn whole edifice down ? nfi.

asciilifeform: hashing a la fg does the basic job, of nailing the bins down along with everythingelse

asciilifeform: which somehow (dun ask me) is intended to make folx swallow the crock of shit , rather than wanting to burn whole edifice down ? nfi. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: because i wrote all those trilema articles, when i sit down to write an article today, i copme up with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-01#1744980 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: it's all that, all the way down.

asciilifeform: also depends on wavelength. uhf (10s of GHz) line-of-sight beams behave muchly like laser, you gotta know exactly where it is and sit down into the path through air, no bigger than train tunnel, to listen

asciilifeform: i'd sit down and do a proper incarnation of keccak, diana_coman , but i have maybe half a free hand and 40 hands worth of what to do..

mircea_popescu: rsa key is a basic tool of computer literacy anyway. like ability to write down own name basic standard of traditional literacy.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-29 21:48 asciilifeform: puyi famously got cleaned out, 'palace uh.. burned down, uhyea' sort of thing

asciilifeform: puyi famously got cleaned out, 'palace uh.. burned down, uhyea' sort of thing ☟︎

asciilifeform: 'William James describes a man who got the experience from laughing-gas; whenever he was under its influence, he knew the secret of the universe, but when he came to, he had forgotten it. At last, with immense effort, he wrote down the secret before the vision had faded. When completely recovered, he rushed to see what he had written. It was : “A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.” '

gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform regarding addy: you're looking at this the wrong way -- people with shit security ALREADY hold btc. And tracking me down is easy. Can come find me anyday in PA.

asciilifeform: picture yerself as the fuhrer. how would you go about 'track down someone from btc addy' ?

gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform palintir is right around corner from me. if I hear them discussing how to track down someone from btc addy over lunch == axe time sword time

gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform anyway I respond it'll boil down to "gut instinct". And that's fine, because we've all got different T levels, peni lengths, brain structures, heights and this determines what you're up for / can do.

asciilifeform: if you have a good proper coke biznis why wouldja walk around shaking down plebes for lunch money.

a111: Logged on 2017-04-03 22:14 asciilifeform: incidentally the folx who designed ada, read thompson's paper. and immediately acted. which is why in ada you get 'driving stick'-style control over the compiler, the order in which it puts down routines, and data structures during 'elaboration', and can leave bread crumbs for manual binary auditor (yes) to look for when he compares (yes) binaries built on different systems for same rocket.

asciilifeform: funnily enough adacore itself publishes a great many cut-down runtimes for various embedded boxes, e.g. https://bitbucket.org/tkoskine/embedded-arm-gnat-rts/src . BUT they are not usable: 1) there is -- quite deliberately -- not one targeting conventional userland linux 2) none of them support exception handling, which wouldn't be a problem except that ALL BOUNDS CHECKS ARE EXCEPTIONTRONIC ☟︎

asciilifeform: at least down south : bananas.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems to boil down to approx discussion here.

mircea_popescu: dood ~could~ have just sat his ass down in belgrade, bussed the hos in from prague

BingoBoingo counting down the days left of winter

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743132 << didja resize ~down~ ?? afaik resizing down never, at any point, worked ~anywhere. ☝︎

ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-25#1743060 << i entirely agree, still working on making with which to crap down new root fsen without 2.7 and 5.* ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 13:17 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514253 << it was eaten by systemd. there is a (last i saw, working) clean fork, 'eudev'. and it looks like phf explains further down in the l0gz.

phf: btcbase is going down for maintenance

mircea_popescu: you decide on an image to be displayed on search page, specifically. "i want it 1024 x 168 pixels". you separately produce a png, as wide as day count, and as tall as daycount * 168 / 1024 rounded. you fill that png with the proper lines, proportionally (so highest count day gets full line, all other days get proportional line). then you scale it down to 1024 x 168. you publish this scaled down item on the search page, and yo

mircea_popescu: in fact, a per-day filtered-histogram could conceivably be very fucking useful hunting down large topics.

phf: misplaced parenthesis is tricky to debug from the error messages, in fact i usually can't. i can usually intuit that the error is probably a result of misplaced parent, but then i still have to go an track it down

asciilifeform: because ultimately yes 'down to the 4bit sbox!'

mircea_popescu: it's bullshit all the way down, "the 4096 bit block gets cut into 16 sub blocks to be fit into rotorizers that cut each block into 64 bits and process with their 4 bit s boxes". because we're from the fucking cartoons. ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( in the shannon sense. you haven't narrowed down what the 4th could be, by knowing 1..3 )

a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 17:09 asciilifeform: the political history is also rather interesting (it was on track to winning the 'aes competition', received fewest thumbs-down votes from the panelists, but mysteriously torpedoed by usg and did not win)

BingoBoingo: Sometime late february to March price goes down substantially

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741804 << what's that, like 400 a month to lay down your head ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 22:50 ben_vulpes: > the founders series roadster will cost buyers a 250K down payment even though it's not coming for more than two years

ben_vulpes: > the founders series roadster will cost buyers a 250K down payment even though it's not coming for more than two years ☟︎

asciilifeform: 'even down's syndrome sufferers won't use a paypaltronic pseudobitcoin if offered naked, let's dress it up'

mircea_popescu: unbeaten kids can't plan, is the truth of the matter. they get too wrapped up in their narcissistic desires and then before you know it newton sits down to discover the theory of how right they are.